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142 - Understanding and Using Dyes

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The Wood Whisperer

The Wood Whisperer

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@jamesnasmith984
@jamesnasmith984 4 ай бұрын
Bang on between industry and newby. Good use of accurate, simple narration.
@F0XD1E
@F0XD1E 2 жыл бұрын
I love finding these time capsule KZfaq videos that were all substance, no clickbait or sponsors, and all had the same royalty free music.
@labtrainer09
@labtrainer09 2 жыл бұрын
Marc, this tutorial may be "ancient" but it's EXCELLENT, in every respect. I've been advised to use dye (instead of stain) on a new maple cabinet I need to finish, and I was looking for an detailed, thorough, common-sense introduction to these colorants. Your video is that AND MORE. Thanks so much; I now think I'm ready to tackle the job.
@aok2727
@aok2727 Жыл бұрын
Same for me. The application part was intimidating and now, I feel prepared
@ZER0MPH
@ZER0MPH 2 ай бұрын
I always value Marc's videos and insight. One of the best woodworking (and finishing) voices on KZfaq. I'm currently listening to the entire catalog of WoodTalk and its a wealth of information. Thank you, Wood Whisperer! 😊
@fa18mhr
@fa18mhr 6 жыл бұрын
The depth of information for this video was spot on. Enough to make informed decisions but nothing down in the weeds to make it onerous to digest.
@HellcatCustoms
@HellcatCustoms 7 жыл бұрын
This helped me a lot. I've been researching different dyes to use on a Les Paul guitar kit and went with the General Finishes pre-mixed dye stain. It was a little cheaper than TransTint and I don't have to worry about dye/water ratio. Thank you!
@watcherdude1330
@watcherdude1330 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I had the opportunity to watch and LEARN a TON of things about dyes and how to use them properly. Being new to wood working I TRULY APPRECIATE the time spent making this video. Your very easy to listen to and you explain things the way I like to learn . So thanks so very much.
@par5endos562
@par5endos562 13 жыл бұрын
Glad to see another video. You are a brave soul doing a dye video with a white shirt!
@tsalter79
@tsalter79 13 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about joining the Guild for sometime now. I watch every episode of the Wood Whisperer and this episode has now made me take that step. Another great show...keep it up Mark.
@danalaniz7314
@danalaniz7314 3 жыл бұрын
Really good explanation. I'm a beginner DIY woodworker and for the last few days, I've been working on learning about stains, dyes, etc. Your explanation and demonstration really helped. Thank you for posting and sharing your knowledge/expertise.
@lexconor8498
@lexconor8498 3 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic, very helpful intro to dyes! Thank you!
@komotion
@komotion 4 жыл бұрын
Great overview, chock full of practical info and, more importantly, explaining the “why” behind it, how things work. Thank you!
@sms9106
@sms9106 4 жыл бұрын
Almost 10 years old but still very relevant and very informative.
@timh7156
@timh7156 Жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial. Most informative one I’ve seen on wood dyes. Thank you for that.
@aok2727
@aok2727 Жыл бұрын
Oh my, this is precisely what I needed to explain this application. Thank you
@briandcare1
@briandcare1 7 жыл бұрын
You are a true professional at this craft. If you got hired on to a crew of professional painters you would be an all star. It's a dying art.
@Mopardude
@Mopardude 13 жыл бұрын
Your vids on finishing are some of the best vids in my opinion.
@jasong1899
@jasong1899 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed with the level of detail in this video. Was curious to learn more about dyes versus stains and came away with so much more. Consider me subscribed.
@Oak0586
@Oak0586 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
@danielludmerer4936
@danielludmerer4936 Жыл бұрын
empower= give us the knowledge to make our own decisions. Thank You!
@mmgross144
@mmgross144 7 жыл бұрын
Mark you are a natural at this! Great job once again!
@waelkambris6188
@waelkambris6188 3 жыл бұрын
Finally…a clear explanation to wood dyes. Thank you
@balance_one
@balance_one 7 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for making this video, it has helped explain some things to this total noob at woodworking. I'm finishing a desk project for myself and have just ordered the dye yesterday. I've used stains before on projects, but nothing of this scale. You've convinced me to apply it with a spray bottle, and the tip to find a decent one with a fine mist spray is great.
@kmneville1
@kmneville1 Жыл бұрын
Thank so so much! This video was excellent for a first time user of dyes!
@schuylerashton813
@schuylerashton813 2 ай бұрын
Baby Marc is adorable
@blackbirdpie217
@blackbirdpie217 7 жыл бұрын
Good video. I could have used this info a few weeks ago when I was using the General finishes stain on a mahogany banjo neck followed by filling the grain for a glass smooth lacquer finish. The grain filler is Crystallac stainable. I had used the older non stainable product, but the Crystalac was pulling the stain out of the wood. None of the products mentioned whether I could seal the wood or not, before using the grain filler. I even called General to ask what was the story with the dye coming up- it was unexpected. You explained it perfectly. They took several days to get back to me with an answer! I ended up using Behlen vinyl sealer on top of the stained bare wood before using the grain filler. It's against my logic but considering the problem I used it with great success. Once the vinyl sealer was on the filler did not solve the stain. I sealed it over the filler to apply the nitrocellulose lacquer. The new problem I have is the stainable crystalac grain filler as it is not drying clear. The old product did, and I Emailed Crystalac directly with no response. I want a good clear grain filler! The difficulties never end.
@kkluber1
@kkluber1 5 ай бұрын
Excellent!!! Thanks so much for just the right amount of information. Also love the William NG T shirt....
@harveygoodman8078
@harveygoodman8078 3 жыл бұрын
Very good and informative video! Thanks for sharing!!!
@DebbieFBI
@DebbieFBI 4 жыл бұрын
You really break down the information so we can understand, thank you!!
@BEasay
@BEasay Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you!
@5.5_F
@5.5_F Жыл бұрын
Just wow ❤ thank you so much 🙏🏼
@geolisadrag-racing2349
@geolisadrag-racing2349 10 жыл бұрын
Great video I impressed some fairly accomplished woodworkers with the wet down, raise grain, sand down grain technique you demonstrated. THANKS
@markolson6987
@markolson6987 4 жыл бұрын
Wow - thank you. This video is exactly what I needed to answer my questions and get me going!
@kraftymomma1979
@kraftymomma1979 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of great information explained in a way I can understand - thank you! ❤️
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 11 жыл бұрын
You might look into some of the Transtint and General Finishes Water Based Dyes. Both should have a few bright primary colors for you to check out. As for gloves, I'd recommend using them. Most dye solutions also have chemicals in the mix. Not something you really want on your hands.
@kenstewart687
@kenstewart687 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Mark. Thank you. I always save your videos for future reference.
@Moffit366
@Moffit366 5 ай бұрын
Oh jeese this is an oldie but a goodie.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 13 жыл бұрын
@MrLeonard55 Well, you can always watch it multiple times. Its always here for your viewing pleasure.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 13 жыл бұрын
@bernsteine yes and yes. I would definitely pre-raise and sand with 320 and a water bottle can definitely help distribute the dye over a large area quickly. Just spray and wipe the excess.
@BlueLineofthesky
@BlueLineofthesky 6 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos. I learn so much.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 12 жыл бұрын
Green dye and a lacquer finish. Transtint is a concentrated dye that comes in green and you can make your own dye solution and apply it to the wood. From there, you can spray one several coats of lacquer. Now this will indeed create a shiny film. But with dye on the surface, a film is a good thing. Non-film finishes won't really protect the color and you will most likely wear through the dye.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 13 жыл бұрын
@aDotFromTheFuture To me, a stain is a generic term for anything we use to color wood. And that can be a dye, a pigment, or a combination of the two.
@jsburklow
@jsburklow 13 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say thanks very much for the video (ok all the videos!!) I went ahead and bought the earlex HVLP sprayer after watching your review now i know how the cave man felt when he discovered the wheel!!! Thanks again Marc for all your insight it has made me a better woodworker i hope to be joining the guild soon.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 13 жыл бұрын
@Mopardude awesome man! Thanks. Glad you like them!
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 9 ай бұрын
I would love to see staining videos using woods that are a pain in the rear like pine and cedar. Seems a lot easier to demonstrate on woods with a tighter grain unless variability and density. Thanks for a great video 👍
@JPEBeard
@JPEBeard 9 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to see a video on different ways to apply transtint!!!
@charlesandrewmoore8699
@charlesandrewmoore8699 3 жыл бұрын
fantastic and deeply infomative. subscribed!
@michaelkraft6018
@michaelkraft6018 11 ай бұрын
I was gifted a table from a dear friend who was a woodworking craftsman before he encountered some health issues. It is a rather old piece. He does not remember precisely what he used to finish the top. The majority of the top is a large inlaid square of wood that he believes was dyed. It is black, and it will spot in a second if it encounters anything wet. A damp cloth will pull color. So as best we can tell, it is a water-based dye. I would like to apply a finish to make it more impervious to water and to avoid having it bleed dye on anything that is placed on it. Based on your video, I would use the Sealcoat dewaxed shellac product. I can either spray or wipe on the first coat. Would you suggest that this be the only finish used, or would you use a different final coat or coats after the shellac, and if so, what would you use? Thank you.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 13 жыл бұрын
@NoblestoftheLIONs that sounds reasonable to me. You can actually save a step if you use something like General Finishes dye. They have some binder in the mix so you can go right from the dye to the gel stain and skip the shellac. As for time periods, you can coat over the dye as soon as its dry to the touch. I'd let the stain sit overnight before top-coating.
@carolriley569
@carolriley569 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the helpful info!
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 11 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don't work much with softwood, but you can certainly get decent results. Always test on scraps and then strategize what you might need to do to solve any potential issues that creep up such as blotching.
@muchimi
@muchimi Жыл бұрын
thanks this is excellent. I just put applied a layer of yellow from general. I'd seen another video where a layer of shellac was used between the yellow and then the walnut, for the walnut counter I made and then a top coat to seal it all before polishing. I also have to decide what to do about the worm holes and one knot. Fill with epoxy? or ??? or leave them. Wish I could send you pics of what I've done so far. thanks for all the info your posting
@Andluth
@Andluth 11 жыл бұрын
I like to raise the grain with denatured alcohol. It costs more but swells the grain and dries really fast. Thanks for the videos!
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 11 жыл бұрын
Mostly. But keep in mind if you are rubbing aggressively, it could still pull up some color. So I like to apply a light coat of diluted varnish with a gentle touch. Once that first coat dries, you can begin to be a bit more aggressive with the surface.
@stevenjepsen5153
@stevenjepsen5153 4 жыл бұрын
Very useful video, thank you.
@sethwaltemyer1412
@sethwaltemyer1412 8 жыл бұрын
"Some distilled water in a spray bottle is perfect for this." Most apt lesson in the entire video ;)
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 13 жыл бұрын
@griiiiiiiiiin I honestly don't know the chemistry behind that paint. But like any other finish or paint, I'd recommend cleaning the brush with hot soapy water after use. I wouldn't recommend using mineral spirits on the brush at all as that could leave residue behind.
@POOKIE5592
@POOKIE5592 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Marc!
@VinnyjojoFish
@VinnyjojoFish 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks
@joshuecker4996
@joshuecker4996 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for the info. Im starting to use TransTint for the time...
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 13 жыл бұрын
@fenderpaman16 Yup. They might apply the dye by spraying, but I have done it by hand in the past and its a fun process.
@MOAB-UT
@MOAB-UT 2 жыл бұрын
Wetting the board before dying is a critical step. Pre-mixed, water based dyes seems better. Light coats with adequate drying times between coats and sanding.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 11 жыл бұрын
Well, problems can arise from a lot of different things, especially when staining pine. So it's hard to say. But that finish combination, in theory, should work. You might look into using a wood conditioner before the stain though since blotching will be an issue. Look into Charles Neil's blotch control.
@DrGarri
@DrGarri 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is awesome! Just the facts Ma'am!
@rbeachy206
@rbeachy206 11 күн бұрын
Excellent instructive video. I'm looking for someone that has a formula to match the Zinsser Amber Shellace on maple using General Finishes dye stain. The Amber turns out a bit too rich and reducing with only water makes it too yellow.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 12 жыл бұрын
Well I'm not really an expert, but i can give an opinion. You can use aerosol cans for this effect and it is really just a matter of blending one color into the other. I have never tried with with spray though. When I have played with this type of coloring I used water-based dyes applied by hand. Fine Woodworking had a great video on their site about it. Google and see if you can't located it. It think "sunburst" was in the title.
@pjbk3838
@pjbk3838 4 жыл бұрын
I did not hear what wood you were using?? I am sure you said but I could not find it. Repeating a couple times wouldn't do any harm. Thank you very thoroughly done.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 11 жыл бұрын
If you have a blotch-prone wood, you might have to consider pre-sealing. Otherwise, applying the dye directly to the wood will likely give the best results.
@NorthsideDentalCareBellingham
@NorthsideDentalCareBellingham 6 жыл бұрын
A good tip for those who have ever experienced the problem of the dye, or in some cases the resins of dark exotic woods (purpleheart for example), BLEEDING into the topcoat or a light colored wood adjacent to the dye/dark wood. You can seal the wood with a very thin coat of epoxy (West Systems is excellent), prior to building up the topcoat. The epoxy has not solvents to activate the dye or pull the resins from the dark exotic woods. It also acts as a grain filler, as it is non-evaporative, and self-levels as it cures.
@johnmorgan4960
@johnmorgan4960 6 жыл бұрын
Can I get a cheat sheet!? Lots of good info, thank you!
@ThriftDiving
@ThriftDiving 7 жыл бұрын
I learned a LOT from this video about dyes. Question: I've just built a DIY bathroom vanity from red oak and now I've come to the part where I'm dreading: ruining it because I couldn't get the finishing right. I'd like to keep it as natural as possible, but use a liming wax to whiten and "highlight" the grain for a weathered oak look. Is there a dye that's really light? Or a way to create a nice even color similar to dye without having to go "full-blown" dyed color? Thanks for your help! Anxious woodworker over here. LOL. New subscriber, too!
@thiswoodwork
@thiswoodwork 13 жыл бұрын
Is that the old assembly table you are working on Mark?
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 13 жыл бұрын
@tsalter79 excellent! The guild is much more "project-focused" these days. But the detail and quality is unmatched. Only disadvantage is you have to look at my face more. :) But overall I think you'll really enjoy it.
@maryag213
@maryag213 9 күн бұрын
I realize this video is incredibly old, but if you’re reading comments, I’d love to know what you’d recommend for ebonizing red oak and ensuring a prominent grain?
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 13 жыл бұрын
@trumpet190 Seriously? That's awesome! Good luck!
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 11 жыл бұрын
I imagine any number of dye formulations would work for this but I'd probably just go with straight denatured alcohol. As for finish coat, lacquer is a good traditional finish for a musical instrument and should look awesome.
@joem5332
@joem5332 3 жыл бұрын
Wesley is the little kid that got beat up in school and now is trying to show how tough he is!
@bret9741
@bret9741 4 ай бұрын
What?
@bryancampbell9312
@bryancampbell9312 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video...Can you spray lacquer sealer over the General Finishes Dye - then top coat with lacquer?
@jbrondos
@jbrondos Жыл бұрын
Can the cotton rags used for wiping be safely and effectively put in the washing machine (obviously without any other fine clothes)?
@leecook7672
@leecook7672 4 жыл бұрын
Can this be added to a bowl and and blanks added to it and then put into a pressure pot to force the color deeper into the wood?
@MrEyesof9
@MrEyesof9 4 жыл бұрын
You definitely covered the "what" quiet well, and to be fair, I may have just missed the "where and when" parts of the story. but If it is missing then.. when would you choose dye over stain, or, if, when or where would you use both?
@elmoblatch9787
@elmoblatch9787 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I tried the General Finishes "Yellow" and it was a lovely orange. I need to figure this out.
@mumkitty
@mumkitty 7 жыл бұрын
This tutorial SAVED ME. Well, it saved my Douglas fir posts and gluelam beams from being ORANGE. I used the General Finishes stain in white as a base to take the orange out and layered Antique Oak on top. The result is a light cool brown that matches all the cabinetry in the room which is Ash. I only tested it so far on some scraps. Any advice on how long to wait between the two step process? Thanks so much!
@jimshaver898
@jimshaver898 5 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you. A question, can I apply an oil based clear coat directly to a Transtint or Transfast finish? Thanks
@walterrider9600
@walterrider9600 8 жыл бұрын
thank you
@bobbg9041
@bobbg9041 2 жыл бұрын
Id like to change my kitchen cabnits that were pro finished 30 years ago with spray laquar and I know you can build laquar up layer on layer without sanding The cabinets are oak and a clear finnish But id like to change them to a clear darker blue you can still see the wood grain on and protect to color from wiping off when I'm done I also intend to use an electric spray gun becuse I do not have a compressor or the budget for a 1500 dollar expensive tool to use but would like really good results on a budget. This is one of them honey do projects I dont have the do for.
@MrLeonard55
@MrLeonard55 13 жыл бұрын
It's a well made video.
@splash5974
@splash5974 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a vid on using the dye in a topcoat, and applying as a toner?
@roggie77777
@roggie77777 5 жыл бұрын
I dont know but might help kzfaq.info/get/bejne/msqgg6WEud2vhKc.html
@dylanrott9956
@dylanrott9956 7 жыл бұрын
solid videos man Bless up
@seby7347
@seby7347 Жыл бұрын
How do you fill gaps in wood before applying your dye.
@joecasey6471
@joecasey6471 Жыл бұрын
I have a chair with no finish left on it. I believe it was stored in a very wet / humid place. It now has turned gray, I would like to restore it back to oak / ? Depending on what I find when i reglue it. What will I need to do remove the gray color ?
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 12 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much. Different types of coloring agents layered on top of one another can certainly bring more depth to the color. But sometimes using a dye as a base coat will shift the color one way or the other. So it can be quite useful. And if you use a water-based dye and you want to use an oil on the surface. I'd recommend skipping the shellac. Shellac will seal the surface preventing your oil from absorbing and curing properly.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 12 жыл бұрын
yes that's correct.
@Jerae6
@Jerae6 2 жыл бұрын
Do you need another finish if you use the bulls eye ?
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 10 жыл бұрын
Not too familiar with citrus solvent. But if there is tung oil in the mix, you already have a binder.
@babbolo71
@babbolo71 12 жыл бұрын
thank you.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 11 жыл бұрын
possibly. but you should probably check with the manufacturer to be sure or at the least, test on some scraps.
@woodwhisperer
@woodwhisperer 12 жыл бұрын
Not if you're putting lacquer in there. I assume that's what you mean by "lac". The traditional mixture is 1/3 oil, 1/3 poly, 1/3 mineral spirits/paint thinner
@phoenixpalazzo4089
@phoenixpalazzo4089 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark. Ive been struggling to find an answer about wood dye on pine. Should I or should I not condition it or use sealcoat first before dying it to deal with bitchyness lol?
@anthonysclafani3963
@anthonysclafani3963 5 жыл бұрын
+The Wood Whisperer does Keda dye (aniline dye I think) fade over time? What causes dyes to fade? Will dyes still fade if you seal it with tru oil?
@darkktur88
@darkktur88 5 жыл бұрын
i love dying flame birch ! Can you dilute dye disolved in alcohol with distilled water ?
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