Woodworking Joints | Learn to make and use a Bridle Joint

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Жыл бұрын

Rob Cosman teaches you how to make and use a Bridle joint
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@jimspencer1077 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much it was very wonderful

@birdman858 Жыл бұрын

A big “thank you” for another great video. Your videos help me ever so much as I migrate from solely a power tool user back to the roots of my grandfather, father and before. I was taught hand tools as youngster, but like many of us, went down the power tool lane. It is so satisfying to cut dovetails by hand as compared to a template. Thank you for teaching us. And for offering us quality tools.

@kevinorr6880 Жыл бұрын

Always a good watch. Thank you. Love craftsmanship!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting

@andrewbrown8148 Жыл бұрын

Another great class by the master~!! Thanks Rob~!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching and commenting

@ianharker9440 Жыл бұрын

Awesome Rob thanks for sharing.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting

@artswri Жыл бұрын

Really handy info, thanks for another great expert video!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

you bet

@J.A.Smith2397 Жыл бұрын

Solid, strong joint. Tks rob

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

I agree

@Sebastopolmark Жыл бұрын

GREAT tutorial Rob. I especially like that you did the power tool method AND the hand tool method. Gives us a good perspective on both! !! !!!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching & commenting

@taylormedia1000 Жыл бұрын

As always, an amazing display of logic and order of operations.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting

@AFCDen1965 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, You are a great teacher.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and commenting

@dale1956ties Жыл бұрын

I just finished making a new key cabinet to replace the cheesy box store we've been using for years and this was the joint I used to make the door. I was inspired by your shop furniture doors. I just happened to notice the joint in one of your other videos. I think it was the one about about fitting the door on your head gear cabinet. Many years ago I bought a round-over type stile and rail router bit set for making cabinet doors but never really felt comfortable using it. I guess I was a hand tool guy even back then without realizing it at the time. Thanks for sharing Rob.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks for a great comment

@apinantpongsupaht872 Жыл бұрын

I like the way you use a horizontal piece to clamp the vertical piece to glide along the fence. It's simple, safe and effective without any need to build a jig.

@Grzleeoso Жыл бұрын

Outstanding as usual .

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

@HWCism Жыл бұрын

Good demonstration, thanks

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@robinpowell4570 Жыл бұрын

Educational without all the fluff. Thanks

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

I hate fluff

@J.A.Smith2397 Жыл бұрын

Missed this fresh but coming back round Rob! I got ya. Lol

@stanislavtihohod Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

you bet

@glencrandall7051 Жыл бұрын

Strong joint. Easy to fabricate. Looks good too.🙂🙂.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

I love it

@danb37 4 ай бұрын

i like the way you pronounce your Outs and Abouts

@dpmeyer4867 Жыл бұрын

thanks

@onehandedmaker Жыл бұрын

Greetings from Australia Nice workshop. So good to check out other KZfaq makers from all over the world. Good tutorial! Have subscribed and will watch more of your videos soon. Regards James One Handed Maker

@michaelpayne8102 Жыл бұрын

Rob and Co. Great video nice seeing 2 styles of woodworking, Glad I bought that Delta Tenon Jig 30 years ago. 😊

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

The older Delta jig is a nice beefy jig

@briantaylor9266 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. I bought mine about 30 years ago too. Worth every penny of the $100 that it cost. Having said that, the tenoning jig is a specialty tool and more expensive these days. I appreciate Rob's everyman approach.

@JM-sz4oi Жыл бұрын

Great video as usual. I too invested in tenoning jigs all those years ago (seen on New Yankee Workshop). They’re significantly more expensive now but not nearly as nerve racking. 😂

@scottboettcher1344 Жыл бұрын

Another fan of the Delta tenoning jig, also from 30 years ago. I learned to use Post-It notes on the metal faces to really get a precise cut, but now use a router plane to get as close as possible (getting easier with my eyes...).

@frankhill9527 Жыл бұрын

Love steps with hand tools, since I don't have the space or the funds for large power tools.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Hand tools....no dust, no dager, no noise and such a joy to do

@MrSharper802 Жыл бұрын

Another great video. I have done my hand cut bridal joints slightly differently and have seen others do it differently. Instead of cutting straight down. First you place the baord in the vice around 45 defrees and instead of cutting straight down you cut starting at each corner down the front face at 45 degrees, then turn the board around and cut down the other face. This allows you to focus on just one line. Then you saw away the little hill that is left in the middle.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Shaun that is not a bridle joint thing its a saw method and a good one at that. Its essential what I do but I like to first start the top then come down the side. Just a slight variation on your method

@qmoonwalker3847 Жыл бұрын

Didn’t know it was so easy! Thanks!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

An easy joint

@marshallmurrell4583 Жыл бұрын

Rob makes them all look easy.

@trevorz9826 10 ай бұрын

Hey Rob, great video as always. In person classes will always be best, but your videos are full of helpful methods/techniques. Where did you get that piercing (jewelers?) saw? I’ve been hunting for one with swiveling blade clamps but do not want to shell out for a knew concepts piece! Looking for something finer than my coping saw, because I want to use pinless scroll saw blades, but need the swivel! Again, great video, keep ‘em coming. Thanks.

@brenchuckswood3826 Жыл бұрын

Rob, any down side to using the bridal joint to build an entry door for my shop? Love your videos, so inspired, just used your sharpening techniques and fell in love with my hand plane again. Thanks for that. Chuck

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Nope

@rogerdudra178 Жыл бұрын

I'm sitting on 9 pieces of oak furniture in my Living room that are all made with the mortise and tenon joints. After seeing this Bridal joint, I wish I'd have made all these pieces with the Bridal Joints. I sure think it's a better joint and easier to cut. Norm Abrams drove me to buy his tenon cutting cast iron jig, which I still have, so I used it to build all that furniture. I sure think the Bridal joint makes sense for ALL these applications I made.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

There is nothing wrong with a M&T joint either

@rogerdudra178 Жыл бұрын

@@RobCosmanWoodworking My thought, too. When I get to a point in a project where I select a joint type, remembering the bridal joint relies on experience that I lack.

@NoTengoIdeaGuey Жыл бұрын

Especially given Patrick Sullivan and his debunking of glue myths. All the old joints that everyone commonly knew to be "totally weak" are now shown be completely serviceable.

@Andi.Mitchell.Designs 10 ай бұрын

@@rogerdudra178I think the highlight of M&T is a hidden joint. The bridal shows the different woods contrasting which is a high point in some aspects and not in others. I just know my cabinet doors cost significantly less for bridal joinery than M&T. Saves me time, saves customers $$$

@kentboys5017 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always! If you were making a frame for a picture would you put a rebate in before or after you put it together? Thanks for sharing! Take care.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Well you can do both but I would do it before

@bigbadstig Ай бұрын

That was a good video showing exactly what I need to learn to progress. One thing however, how would you cut a bridle for a door with sides in excess of 6ft? Could power tools still be used? as the manual way is far in excess of my abilities. Still a good, informative video. Thank you

@howardsmith5547 Жыл бұрын

I was just last night saying to myself to ask Rob about the bridle joint, then see this today! Any comments on using the joint when not at a corner?

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Yes we have a sensing device that your thoughts registered on so we did it!!!!

@joehirschegger7723 Жыл бұрын

Great vid..thanks! Would you recommend achieving sawing with the saw perpendicular to the workpiece (i.e. parallel to the bench top) or moving the saw back or forward slightly while cutting the cheeks?

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Cut one line at a time. Horizontal or vertical line doesn’t matter which one to focus on first just don’t try sawing both at the same time

@user-mg7yd9wk8r 5 ай бұрын

I wany Jo copy ur wood working wall piece love it 🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂

@thijspluis9998 Жыл бұрын

Hi Rob. Can I use some of your disigns and ideas to make a piece of furniture of mine? I realy like the styles and features you put into your furniture and I would love to recreate it!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Go for it. Send us some pics of your builds so we can post to our website

@dougtilaran3496 Жыл бұрын

Thank God for a Bridgeport !

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

@larrymacdonald8602 Жыл бұрын

I am following may of your hand tools video. The editor cut away at 22:39 and did not show cutting the tenon. I assume it was identical to cutting the mortise and that is why. But I would like to see how you did the cleanup and final fit.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Yes you are 100% correct

@JoJo-edge Жыл бұрын

“PHP” Purple💜Heart Professor!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

PHPis th ebomb

@victoryak86 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff Rob. Is the blade on the table saw a flat top grind?

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Yes a Flat ground blade will prevent those little ears

@williamshetler4954 Жыл бұрын

How would you go about adding drawbore pins to a bridle joint? They wouldn't necessarily be needed but could add some visual interest, particularly if done with a square head pin ... sort of green and green style.

@davidblake1663 Жыл бұрын

Good evening from France I'd say that "real" drawbores would be tricky. When they're in a normal mortice and tennon there's only one axis of movement -- into the mortice. With a bridle joint you have two axes, so which way are you going to "draw"? It may look cool to put in two normal dowels, nicely shaped, as a decorative feature, but I don't see the need for drawbores with a bridle joint.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

David gave a great answer. If you just want looks they dont need to be drawbore just add to pins for a green and gree you need a oversized square head

@toadsprocket7598 Жыл бұрын

what was the table saw blade you were using?

@marcellemay7721 Жыл бұрын

I've been a career carpenter for over 40 years. While I admire the skill and patience of doing things with hand tools, I'm a power tool kind of guy.😋 I was almost loosing my mind when I saw you creating that wall to start the saw cut, and hand cutting those joints, because I simply don't have that kind of time or patience. Perhaps I could do it if I was living on a desert island with no power. You did a beautiful job with the hand tools! If I can do it with machines and power tools, that's the way it's gonna happen. Thanks for another great video!

@tonyg9511 2 ай бұрын

Pretty much telling my exact story here. I've been building, adding to and renovating houses for about 45 yrs and never had time to piss around. Always looking for the quickest method to get the job done which doesn't mean sacrificing quality. Over the last few years however I've set up quite a decent workshop at home and begun to build a bit of furniture and now have the time to mess about with a few more hand tools and fiddly joints etc. Still head to the power tools whenever possible though.

@bniemann420 Жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on using a bridle joint end to end, to make a longer piece?

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Nope. If you have to connect to pieces use a scarf joint

@fayz44awad Жыл бұрын

👌👌👌

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

👌

@JarlSeamus Жыл бұрын

When marking the ends for the tenon on the hand one, instead of trying to match the marking gage cutter to the near side corner, couldn't you just bottom it on the inside face of the opposite shoulder and mark to the far side? To my mind, seating the cutter is a positive registration instead of trying to eyeball the feather edge of the corner.

@Grzleeoso Жыл бұрын

And dont forget to hit the 👍🏼

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Please do

@sheilbwright7649 Жыл бұрын

Hi, Around 16.14 you place your thumb on the brass back of the saw, is this to aid keeping perpendicular or for some other purpose? Thanks

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

At 6:14 i am clamping the wood getting ready for the miter cut??????

@marshallmurrell4583 Жыл бұрын

@@RobCosmanWoodworking The question related to 16:14, not 6:14.

@thecsciworker291 9 ай бұрын

I would just like to clarify that it would take more to snap the M&T than Bridle, as Bridle provides greater leverage for turning forces. You can look at the extreme end of it: Imagine a Tenon thats 1" vs one that's 12". Which one will break easier?

@tonyg9511 2 ай бұрын

There have been a couple of videos testing various joints to failure and the bridle joint always wins out over M&T, look up the one by Mattias Wandell (I think thats how to spell his name).

@thecsciworker291 2 ай бұрын

@@tonyg9511 I've been searching his channel for the comparison but haven't found it as yet. But my point is, if you take this video for example, look at the size of the tenon he creates. If you do a M&T with that size mortise that is that thin, it's not gonna be strong by any means. There's a reason for creating an M&T with at specific ratios (1/3 the thickness, for starters) because you compromise the strength otherwise. If the tester isn't conscious of this when conducting tests, their results will be biased/skewed. Hence why I mentioned trying to snap a 1" tenon vs a 12" tenon. Good luck snapping that 1" tenon (assuming the actual tenon isn't thin). He even mentions similar early in the video, but this, the size he drew would be too big for that thickness.

@tonyg9511 2 ай бұрын

@@thecsciworker291 it's not just about snapping the tenon, you also need to consider the glue area and the strength of the mortise.

@randygust3423 Жыл бұрын

Curious to know which FTG table saw your using?

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

That was a flat toothed for the bridle joint

@randygust3423 Жыл бұрын

I apologize, I meant to ask what brand blade. I’m looking at purchasing a FTG blade and curious if you have any recommendations?

@marshallmurrell4583 Жыл бұрын

@@randygust3423 I bought a blade for my miter saw from Ridge Carbide. I've been very happy with it. They have a ftg table saw blade. I'm going to order that one next.

@sinsofvorador Жыл бұрын

What would a bridle joint in the middle (or somewhere not on the ends) of the workpiece be called?

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

A bridle joint

@marshallmurrell4583 Жыл бұрын

A through mortise and tenon?

@mwoody4560 Жыл бұрын

maybe it’s the video, but it looks like your hand/fingers get real damn close to the blade. I guess you got a sawstop and all your fingers, so it probably just looked worse on camera. I prefer to build a simple jig that straddles the fence to provide a bit more clearance between the blade and my fingers.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

No. I have a great sense of awarness of my ands and the blade. Been doing this all my life. Others have not so use a jig

@marshallmurrell4583 Жыл бұрын

I have a shop made tenoning jig from which I get very good results. I know Rob is a professional, but that same thing gave me a bit of a start.

@passmybongback 8 ай бұрын

Is that a syrup?

@daveduncan9005 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps an easier method, when using the table saw, would be to attach the support to the fence instead of to the work piece. Less messing about with a clamp, and it speeds up production.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

You could do that but I prefer my way. Normally I just hold to the fence by hand and don’t do the clamp thing. Did the clamp thing for this video as I don’t think most folks will want to do it “ freehand” like I do.

@billferrol4202 Жыл бұрын

What, no hockey tape on the clamp handle?

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Argggg What was I thinking????

@dragomirdichev1196 Жыл бұрын

I am surprised this joint is stronger than mortise and tenon. I need to test that. Great video anyway!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Let me know how your test comes out

@Norm7264 Жыл бұрын

Oh Rob... for extra credit... let's see a mitred bridle joint!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Its on the to do list

@burntsider8457 Жыл бұрын

5:26 "..if you're not comfortable [standing the board on end]..." You shouldn't be comfortable with that maneuver. You have only the width of the workpiece bearing on the table saw deck and it must pass over the throatplate. Very unstable. I don't think clamping a scrap board to the top of the workpiece and riding it on the top of the fence is much safer either as you need to have your hand so close to a high blade. I'd use a tenoning jig or a bandsaw for those cheek cuts.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

It’s people like you that my comment was directed at then.

@jodymontez693 Жыл бұрын

I think a router bit is safer

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

I don’t but since we still live in a semi free country, you rout I’ll saw!

@rogerdudra178 Жыл бұрын

The time it take to cut a bridal joint looks to be as long as a tenon cut to me. I still think its (the bridal joint) a stronger joint. To me, that is.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

I concur

@MaxMustermann-yj1wz Жыл бұрын

And the winner is.... A spindle moulder. I makes a flawless joint faster than your able to say bridle joint.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

There are lots of ways to make a bridle joint. Most folks dont have a spindle moulder. I have one but prefer the table saw. Different strokes

@squareswing Жыл бұрын

No one wants to make this joint! matthias wandel made a vid the proves what a crappy joint it is.

@weldabar Жыл бұрын

I don't think so. Provide a link or it didn't happen. This is a very good joint.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Sorry but this is a very successful joint that has been used for hundreds of years without issue. Mathis lives right down the road from me, I will talk with him

@squareswing Жыл бұрын

@@weldabar kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ecWHrMSZqZ7QhZs.html

@CarmoniusFinsnickeri Жыл бұрын

The bridle was the second strongest joint after the half lap in Fine Woodworkings very thorough joinery shootout test, issue no 203 in 2009.

@weldabar Жыл бұрын

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri Yes indeed, and could have been first, IMO, if they would have made the tenon part thicker.

@dave_ecclectic Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nKudZKebprG-e40.html I'm quite disappointed in your use of the table saw and promotion of such a terrible and dangerous Jig. You were more concerned with possibly getting a small bruise from a thrown cutoff than mangling your hand! Without getting into an apparent community moray of not discussing safety I will simply point out that your method requires the passage 16 times. 16 time it basically requires the building of this _jig_ for a single door. This is neither convenient or safe. I think this alone constitutes making a real jig and not this -thing you show. Doing this purely by hand which you claim to do normally, (without the board or clamp) as it crosses into the *do not mention safety* moray I will not call you insane but only say repetition of an unsafe practice doesn't make it safe. Finally shame on you for saying _better tools make the job easier_ and after all these years of still not having a tool, a jig for doing this function.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Blah, blah, blah!