Installing concealed barrel hinges

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Woodworking with DIY tools

Woodworking with DIY tools

6 жыл бұрын

How to install concealed barrel hinges so a cabinet door opens without grazing. We must use the caliper to measure carefully to make sure we put the hinges in the right position in the cabinet and in the door. Otherwise the door will graze against the cabinet box. The truth is that installing these hidden barrel hinges can be a headache.
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@garymccoy2888
@garymccoy2888 6 жыл бұрын
I have avoided using these hinges for this reason. Thanks for showing some of the challenges.
@JaniceTylor
@JaniceTylor 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video!!!! I bought these hinges to make a folding table for my RV. It wasn’t until I was home and looking at them that I realized how unique they are. I got scared to try them. This video took away the fear. Now I’m off to buy the correct drill bit. Thank you!
@billwainscott9463
@billwainscott9463 5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for making this video. I was wondering how many problems I was going to have to over come to make this style hinge work...now I know. Maybe I will go with a different type hinge, as I have no metric drills and I don't want to mess up a beautiful box. Next time I will think things all the way through first!
@alphabeta1258
@alphabeta1258 6 жыл бұрын
Really helpful Sergio. I just bought some barrel hinges for a puzzle box I have almost completed ... now I can install them correctly. Thankyou for taking the time to make the video.
@Tinycolin
@Tinycolin 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing how to fit those, keep producing the great video’s.
@scottoceans77
@scottoceans77 3 жыл бұрын
nice way to avoid tear out when drilling. i leave a little flag on my piece of tape on the drill bit, then once i get to depth the flag part sweeps away the dust and i can see where to stop easier.
@SuperiorEtchworx
@SuperiorEtchworx 6 жыл бұрын
When I use barrel hinges, I always chamfer the edges to allow a little extra clearance. If you want to open the lid 180 degrees, you need to have the hinge edge just under half the distance between the barrels as you supposed. If you want a 90 degree lid, centre your hinges and 45deg chamfer up to 1mm from the hole . I use a stopped block as a drill guide. I make it by setting the scrap up in the drill press and clamping it tightly before drilling. Then I add another piece to make a T. this allows me to hold it tightly against the project for drilling.
@gethroenteralastname2210
@gethroenteralastname2210 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting the video. I'm just getting into making small wooden boxes recently and picked up some barrel hinges the other day.
@eddiestipe2009
@eddiestipe2009 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Your information was very detailed and very helpful again thank you very much.
@Mr2at
@Mr2at 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad i watched this because now i know not to bother with those types of hinges. Far too fiddly. Great vid.
@sjscreations2608
@sjscreations2608 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sergio we can all learn something! Very informative. Cheers Sean
@heriberthuber54
@heriberthuber54 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing what can go wrong. That will help other to avoid those situations. Maybe it will work if you make a tiny v-groove at the back so get the clearance you need to open the lid?
@Pinchshot39
@Pinchshot39 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job Sergio. Gracias!
@TheWoodYogi
@TheWoodYogi 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the best way to install these type of hinges Sergio :) ॐ
@mohdtalib8575
@mohdtalib8575 3 жыл бұрын
From where can i get these in india 🇮🇳?
@vileguile4
@vileguile4 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a joy to watch :)
@Yevgen6R
@Yevgen6R 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video!
@squigglyline2813
@squigglyline2813 3 жыл бұрын
I think you do really good work.
@gregmay990
@gregmay990 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work and an informative video, thanks.
@NickDV007
@NickDV007 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks 👍👍👍
@jp_makes
@jp_makes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, really useful video!
@fernandesfernandes3161
@fernandesfernandes3161 6 жыл бұрын
Muito bom mesmo. Obrigado.
@reggiesmith6423
@reggiesmith6423 4 жыл бұрын
What a great way to add these hidden hinges. Why not just use CA glue instead of a second screw. Great video, great explanation, great wood-worker.
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😃. Well, I don't trust these hinges too much, so I don't want to glue them. Otherwise some glue could go inside the hinges
@darynmitchell2070
@darynmitchell2070 6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a small beveled edge on each top and bottom would resolve the problem of touching when opening
@Twentyfour222
@Twentyfour222 6 жыл бұрын
TOPP, the best 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@hassannazari6305
@hassannazari6305 4 жыл бұрын
nice job
@DiningTablePrintPlay
@DiningTablePrintPlay 6 жыл бұрын
Could it be that when you enlarged the hole from 10mm to 10.5mm, the metal drill you used didn't centre properly? If it took more material off the interior side of the hole than the exterior side, that could result in the hinge being moved further away from the edge when you tighten the tiny screw, which could be the cause of the grating. 10.5mm spur drills exist, but they're pretty rare. I wonder whether you're supposed to just beat the hinge into a 10mm hole with a hammer! All the same, these hinges look like a real pain to install - thanks for all the details!
@martynenkov
@martynenkov 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@HPWoodcraftSA
@HPWoodcraftSA 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I tried these hinges on a project recently and nearly lost my mind! After this project, do you think that these things ever work perfectly?
@nebula674
@nebula674 5 жыл бұрын
Luckily I watched this video before screwing up my jewelry box. Thank you very much
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools 5 жыл бұрын
These hinges look so easy to instal, but they are so .... so .... grrrr Thanks for watching :D
@sergiokiwon6688
@sergiokiwon6688 6 жыл бұрын
muito bom very good
@RenatoArena
@RenatoArena 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It helped me a lot. No videos in Portuguese. Maybe I can make one...
@SWhite-hp5xq
@SWhite-hp5xq 6 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you drill holes in the dowels you used to fill the incorrect holes?
@ichziehmeinenhut
@ichziehmeinenhut 6 жыл бұрын
Perfekt danke 👌👌👌
@RRan-dk7ct
@RRan-dk7ct 6 жыл бұрын
thanks
@thefirsted
@thefirsted 7 күн бұрын
I think a small chamfer around the entire perimeter of the mating sides of the box would eliminate the creaking.
@fbtool
@fbtool 5 жыл бұрын
A set of metric transfer points would sure make the second positing of these barrel hinges easier!
@cfbarnett
@cfbarnett 2 жыл бұрын
"metric transfer points" ??
@sajidullah
@sajidullah 6 жыл бұрын
Muy Bien
@stevem268
@stevem268 4 жыл бұрын
where did you get these hinges from? they look great and much simpler than butt hinges to install
@user-mc7ff6vt5g
@user-mc7ff6vt5g 8 ай бұрын
Hi. Great video. I need to replace a damaged barrel hinge. I have removed the pin/screw but it doesn't come out. Any tips please?
@kimmurray6972
@kimmurray6972 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you order these hinges and what is the name of it? I need to order 2 for a desk.
@blainerueckwald
@blainerueckwald 3 жыл бұрын
Put a small chamfer on the outside edges of the hinge side of your cabinet. You will avoid the binding.
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, sure that would work and it would give a nice touch to the cabinet
@Audioventura
@Audioventura 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I am going crazy with these little... I would like to know which diameter of hinges you are using and which diameter you chose for the whole - I have 10mm hinges and drilled 10mm holes. The problem is that these things have to pressed into the hole with a clamp and I can't position them precisely in the hole that I drilled slightly deeper (just in case ^^).Yours seem to slide in and out of the hole okay.
@derekvaughn2038
@derekvaughn2038 2 жыл бұрын
He used a 10.5 mm bit to widen the hole. Roll a piece of 220 grit sandpaper up into a tube to take a few thousandths off the inside of the hole.
@jasonr3519
@jasonr3519 4 жыл бұрын
Those hinges are made for 10mm Forster bit. And 1/2” material. You need them much closer to the edge to make them work properly. Close to 1/16” away from the edge. Using your drill press would make the holes cleaner also.
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools 4 жыл бұрын
😥 I hate this kind of hinge. They are not easy to install at all. Thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍😃
@nathanhubler
@nathanhubler Жыл бұрын
The max distance from the edge of the material to the edge of the hinge is 1.8 millimeters for the 10mm hinges. (According to the instructions that came with the hinges)
@kinangeagle133
@kinangeagle133 3 жыл бұрын
what joinery did you use for the box? I saw the tiny strips of darker wood on the corners so it got me wondering.
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools 3 жыл бұрын
I miter cut the end of the boards to make the vertical miter joints. And I have a spline miter jig to reinforce the miter joints using wood splines
@hansdegroot8549
@hansdegroot8549 6 жыл бұрын
I've learnt so many things from your videos. Now again. These concealed barrel hinges are beautiful but it seems very difficult to install them properly. In general one should try out new things at first on scrap wood. It seems, that 10,5 mm is a too large diameter for the 10 mm hinge. It should be possible to buy drill bits for metal 10,2 mm (I use a 8,2 mm for 8 mm dowels) If you have (or buy) "spade drill bits" ten you can try to adept the width. In that case you need only one drill bit. Did you try the 10 mm bit? Is it really a too tight hole with that? Maybe (also) the screw you used was too short? Did/can you use (also) glue? These are just some questions/remarks, not criticism. Thanks for sharing the video. I'm already looking forward to the next one.
@hansdegroot8549
@hansdegroot8549 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your reply.. I understand that glue or epoxy is no option. Try to get a 10.2 mm drill bit for metal. If you make a small punch (hole) with an owl the drill bit will not wander. (immediately use the 10.2 mm drill bit for metal, NOT the 10 mm drill bit for wood). In a drill press without problems Let me know if you cannot get a 10.2 mm drill bit for metal. Here it should not be a problem (I suppose because 8.2 mm was not a problem although that was already many years ago, maybe in the last centrury :-) ) I can buy you one and send it to you, if necessary.
@dewrus2153
@dewrus2153 24 күн бұрын
I just finished making an engagement ring box. As indicated, the hinges were very tight (too tight) to install using the size drill bit that corresponds with the hinge...and the next size bit was too large. I overcame this by using the same size bit (which was too tight) and then I chucked one of the hinges in my drill and basically reamed out the hole using an actual hinge until it went in. I then used two drops of gel CA glue inside the hole (applied with a toothpick to enable me to get it down inside) and then pressed the hinges in. I used very small hinges with no adjustment and it turned out great with this method.
@KSFWG
@KSFWG 6 жыл бұрын
Chamfer the edges that meet.
@alejandromolina7015
@alejandromolina7015 2 жыл бұрын
Madre mía el acentaco....se nota que eres español a la legua
@lewisway6811
@lewisway6811 5 жыл бұрын
I have also struggled with this type of hinge.They are very finicky, and relay not very well made.
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools 5 жыл бұрын
I get stressed when I have to install them 😅
@johncooke4643
@johncooke4643 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at other videos on the barrel hinges, a small chamfer would seems to solve the binding?? Like the video!!
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. I have to try it. These hinges are expensive and it is not nice when I cannot make them work correctly
@johncooke4643
@johncooke4643 2 жыл бұрын
@@WoodworkingwithDIYtools I have purchased some barrel Hinges, keen to experiment...
@cfbarnett
@cfbarnett 2 жыл бұрын
@@WoodworkingwithDIYtools "Expensive" ? mebbe I shopped at the wrong place...
@dewrus2153
@dewrus2153 24 күн бұрын
Either a chamfer or get them very close to the edge. I just finished a ring box and had no chamfer...but I had to bore the hole very close to the edge. It works great doing it this way for small items but you must first test spacing on scrap wood to see how close you need to get. Once I got a mock-up that worked without chamfering, I then used that to create a template and then applied to my box using a small center punch to keep the bit from walking.
@dawntoolbelter7610
@dawntoolbelter7610 6 жыл бұрын
Preparation and accurate execution is abs'key with these hinges. Firstly, as with all things, you get what you pay for and so do not buy cheap barrel hinges - they will flex and bind. Secondly, assemble an accurate facsimile from off-cuts to demonstrate that your calculations and methods are correct. Thirdly, use the correct tools e.g. a marking gauge, a small pilot drill in a corded drill at high speed, a forstener bit or, if you must use a standard bit then do not use soft wood as a drill guide. Simples and 40 years experience.
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools
@WoodworkingwithDIYtools 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I always say I am not a master 😅, just a woodworker and DIY enthusiast 😃. Actually those barrel hinges where quite expensive, so if they are not the good ones ... how much good ones cost 😲?. Anyway barrel hinges are quite expensive anyway ☹️. Thanks for your tips, sure they will help a lot 👍😃
@flappoid
@flappoid 2 жыл бұрын
After going on five years that this video has been up, I can only imagine the number of ruined projects from folks who followed your lead.
@jbestell
@jbestell 6 жыл бұрын
chamfer
@rds333
@rds333 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but I can't understand half of what he is saying......
@cfbarnett
@cfbarnett 2 жыл бұрын
Don't ever call tech support for help with your phone or computer then. He's not bad compared to what I often hear! ;)
@dewrus2153
@dewrus2153 24 күн бұрын
The button on the bottom right is "closed caption" and displays text of what is said. Hope this helps.
@kc696969
@kc696969 2 жыл бұрын
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