WORD BEARERS - Ruinous Iconoclasts

WORD BEARERS - Ruinous Iconoclasts | Warhammer 40k Lore

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Today we shall elucidate the 17th Legion of the Adeptus Astartes: The Word Bearers.
Once known as the Imperial Heralds, the scions of Primarch Lorgar Aurelian would enact a holy war across the stars first in the name of The Emperor before falling from grace.
Now the most steadfast disciples of the Chaos Gods, the Word Bearers continue to wreak zealous havoc across the galaxy adorned in the parchments of their appalling creed.
00:00 Introduction
00:55 Iconoclasts of Terra
03:44 Ascension of Lorgar
06:35 Zealots of the Great Crusade
08:50 Monarchia Burns
11:45 Pilgrimage of the Urizen
13:25 Betrayal of Calth
15:41 The Shadow Crusade
17:48 Usurping the Warmaster
19:50 Organisation of the Word
22:28 The Dark Council
25:23 Prayers and Devotions
27:50 Leadership
29:46 Conclusion
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@Erika_Redmark Жыл бұрын

Word Bearers have one of my favourite story arcs in the Heresy series, topped only by the White Scars. A heartwarming tale of Lorgar’s search for the truth of the universe. With such selfless and positive mentor figures as Erebus and Kor Phaeron, you really get the feeling that it will be a happy ending for all involved 😂

@martintodd9944 Жыл бұрын

I liked the omnibus featuring Marduk too

@martintodd9944 Жыл бұрын

Anthony Reynolds wrote them

@granthill837 Жыл бұрын

For me they really changed after the Emperor had a quiet word in Monarchia. Brought them to life. ⭐️

@chainsawsubtlety9828 Жыл бұрын

Sarcasm is often the subtle evidence of a corrupted soul. Tread carefully, Citizen. 😉

@vrius-threeeye4087 Жыл бұрын

@dewaynemcclure Жыл бұрын

"It's called treachery, Roboute. It works quite well. Let the galaxy burn, brother." - Lorgar Aurelian during the Battle of Calth

@e-san6111 Жыл бұрын

“And after 10,000 years of bitter reflection, the Urizen is readying for war.” Corvus Corax: *Incessant Cawing*

@Historyfrek4ever Жыл бұрын

Nah. Lorgar got out his sanctuary because Corax found a way in.

@AlexanderForsman 11 ай бұрын

Word Bearers: Who? Corax is just a half forgotten myth among the CSM. He's likely been dead or captured a few thousand years prior to M41

@WestSideGorilla1980 11 ай бұрын

"So...how'd you think that went?" - Big E to Bobby G

@user-ev7id5bu2w 8 ай бұрын

"I think he took it well" hesitatantly said by Gorilla Man.

@elhaid0r Жыл бұрын

the destruction of monarchia and shaming of the word bearers, as well as the abduction of angron, rank among the emperors greatest mistakes.

@gideonhorwitz9434 Жыл бұрын

Ironic to think all of this could have been avoided if Lorgar wasn’t such a slow poke in compliances.

@DaniMol Жыл бұрын

Lol yeah, the big E wouldn't have sanctioned him if they had rushed a bit more during compliance. Or not found out until later, maybe allowing Cadia to be discovered by a different legion. But as with the newest book in the Siege of Terra, we know that something as mundane would never have stopped destiny, and there was no way Lorgar could have fought his path. He is a Slave to Darkness, and always shall be.

@vitaliyred622 7 ай бұрын

@@DaniMolwdym always would have been? Dude the whole HH is destiny is made by your own hands.

@TheThunderinghammer Жыл бұрын

Damn man, the Imperium is so damn hypocritical I've only ever heard people shit on the Wordbearers, but honestly, this video made me like them

@Verg887 3 ай бұрын

Main hypocrisy of Big E: You can't be zealous and mindless and follow Lorgar's teachings, but you must be zealous and mindless in following my Imperial Truth.

@granthill837 Жыл бұрын

Elucidate…Iconoclasts… Duplicitous…what a wordsmith. Love this channel. 👏🏻

@joshley1320 Жыл бұрын

Used to really dislike the word bearers but then I listened to first heretic and they are easily in my top five such a good legion and can’t deny I really like lorgar to

@tripwire31 Жыл бұрын

So the art of the Imperial Heralds art that pops up first at 10:18 was actually a commission piece I had done a few years back by a great guy off Instagram. I don't know how or why my comment has not shown up that I made the day this vid came out, very strange. Anyhow nice to know the art has found the spotlight, even for a moment!

@TheRemembrancer Жыл бұрын

Many thanks for your illumination of the Imperium!

@quintinjansevanvuuren9638 Жыл бұрын

Word Bearers walked so every faction of Chaos Marines after them could fly.

@davidschafer1356 Жыл бұрын

I am not a Word Bearer fan but First Heretic and Betrayer have to be my top 3 HH Books.

@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I think Lorgar probably should have seen the red flags when summoning the gods required impaling naked people and all that. "Maybe this isn't a good idea." "Hey, when in Cadia..."

@SSangsen Жыл бұрын

Betrayer is easily my top 3. Know No Fear being number 2.

@ciscornBIG Жыл бұрын

Reading first heretic right now and it IS great

@D_Doyle Жыл бұрын

The word bearers were a legion I knew enough about to like them, but not enough to see if I love them. Keep up the great elucidations Remembrancer

@Scarletraven87 Жыл бұрын

Traitors of humanity, worshipers of extradimensional parasites. The Black Legion leads, but the Word Bearers make so. Together they are the Greater Evil. And I love them for that.

@henrikandreason7261 Жыл бұрын

The sad thing is that Colchis was the very image of what the imperium after the heresy, would become..

@warhawk4494 Жыл бұрын

Erabus and logar did everything wrong while Magnus didn't. Poor magnus.

@rambosloth8612 Жыл бұрын

Well.......

@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith Жыл бұрын

Eh... all three underestimated the dark powers and thought they could control Chaos. But also, all three had very good reasons to hate the Emperor for being a hypocritical a-hole

@TheLastRaven Жыл бұрын

The Blood Ravens claim this video for the honour of the chapter!

@Watch_Point Жыл бұрын

Sad, a legion ahead of its time 😔

@inquisitorgarza312 Жыл бұрын

The Word Bearers are by far the most dangerous threat for the very soul of humanity is at stake against these foul fanatics of the Chaos Gods, and if let unchecked they will corrupt every single man, woman, and child within the Imperium and send their souls straight to their Dark Masters.

@ciscornBIG Жыл бұрын

Good!

@Gwilherm Ай бұрын

That's why I love them.

@erikwhitney7403 Жыл бұрын

If you look at the Imperium, it is held together by the faith in the Emperor, because in the grim dark universe of 40k you need a light to believe in. Lorgar knew this and without it, the Imperium would had collapsed.The Imperium followed on what he did.

@TzarkanAndFriends Жыл бұрын

Word Bearers and Lorgar are the reason I got into Warhammer. My first love in the mythos. This video was truly great. I can't wait for a Lorgar Aurelian primarch video. For the Dark Gods!

@jeremysincerbeaux6040 Жыл бұрын

Faith is the ultimate weapon. Do you have faith Brother? Do You Believe?

@anthonymorelli1636 Жыл бұрын

Okay!,from all the 40k videos and channels that I am checked into yours by far has the best narration your voice is what makes these stories come to life for me ... Thank you. ☠️☠️☠️

@Veridiansolar Жыл бұрын

I just fell into 40k lore and I find your content enthralling. Thanks for helping me understand this grimdark setting.

@JudicialBrat Жыл бұрын

They are literally me fr fr ong (i only wanted was the truth)

@spaghettimkay5795 Жыл бұрын

Lorgar is declared excommunicatus sigmatus - too based for the Imperium

@Sealdeam Жыл бұрын

I did not know the history of the Legion prior to their reunion with their primarch, it is extremely interesting they always were zealots or fanatics of some kind, the spots or stripes of their exterior might had changed over time but their core was always the same, whether secular, Imperial or of Chaos they represent that human trait of needing and seeking subjection to a greater power, no matter if it is true or false, because for some being architechs of their destiny and playthings of chance is a fate too terrible to bear.

@joshjacob1530 Жыл бұрын

To be completely fair and defending lorgar when you study religions and philosophy all the signs were kinda pointing towards the god emperor of mankind being a god.

@olknoxlo 5 ай бұрын

"You are a god in all but name" Is one of my favorite Lorgar quotes. Said that shit to dad's face.

@peterga3658 Жыл бұрын

Ty you mate ths you for the long version video . its amazing as useall love it . will we get any Eldar dark eldar lore ?

@KarlKingz 10 ай бұрын

An awesome story arc would be Word Bearers that stayed Loyalist and emerged after the Heresy to say they were right all along and given the order by The Emperor Himself to do everything they did.

@dancooper4443 Жыл бұрын

Great way to tick off a chilly Sunday. Thank you Remembrancer

@4starseniormasterspecialist Жыл бұрын

Did the Gal Vorback legit interact with the infant primarchs? Or was that just a vision?

@spaghettimkay5795 Жыл бұрын

Given they had their gellar field off, there's really 2 possibilities: Either they were literally sent back into a moment in time and were actually there. Or they were inserted into a psychic memory of the Emperor's lab. I'd wager it's more likely to be the second, as 40k doesn't mess much with time travel, but either is possible. The chaos gods did directly interfere within the lab itself, so it's not like there's a significant barrier to the idea.

@DaniMol Жыл бұрын

@@spaghettimkay5795 It could be either of them yes, it's also possible they were never there at all, and they just saw what they needed to see, to devote themselves fully to Chaos. Or it's possible they were truly there and they hid Erda's actions. It's likely we will never know the truth.

@4starseniormasterspecialist Жыл бұрын

@@spaghettimkay5795 time doesn't work the same in the warp though right? As fun as it would be for them to have interacted with the infant primarchs somehow and causing a loop in which chaus was always going to to be released. There is so much lore that time travel would confuse me to the point of madness.

@jamesneese7663 Жыл бұрын

with chaos, there is no difference. Chaos was already in motion, so showing those two a vision of what happened changes nothing. Chaos are liars. It would not be too surprising that they pretended to those Word Bearers that there was a "choice" when there was no choice at all. Just the illusion of choice. Notice for example that Tzeetch already had his claws into the thousand sons via the flesh change LONG before Magnus was ever found and cut a deal with Tzeetch to "save" his sons. Think about it Tzeetch MADE the problem that Magnus went begging for him to "solve", sold the "cure" at the cost of Magnus' soul, then #$@@$ over the Thousand Sons anyway....!

@scottmcgrath-st5lj Жыл бұрын

@@DaniMol I don’t believe in this Erda nonsense. Convenient retcon to pozz/longhouse the universe.

@eichler721 Жыл бұрын

Can't wait for Logar to emerge and fight the Imperium. Both Guilliman and Corax have unfinished business with him.

@jamesneese7663 Жыл бұрын

that's assuming Lorgar is even still alive. It's not impossible that Lorgar is dead and the Dark Council has been saying "he's still in meditation" to keep themselves in power and the rest of the legion under their thumb. Erebus esp is quite the backstabber. It is far from unthinkable that Erebus would turn on his primarch and kill him then cover his tracks with stories and fictions.

@eichler721 Жыл бұрын

@jamesneese7663 if Erebus could he would but he got stomped by Kharn let alone a Primarch. Logar is alive he has been hiding from Corax though and now he feels strong enough to emerge. We will see how that works when Corax shows up to test him.

@donavanhelltaker7548 Жыл бұрын

Word bearers are 1 of my favorite chaos space marines why? Because of the daemons and Argal Tal being the 1st to fall victim to the mutation of the warp and becoming a demonic monstrosity!!!! YEAH F*CK YEAH CHAOS- Ahem sorry I’m done now

@ludovicfernand2016 Жыл бұрын

Thx for partage like habitude excellent vid 👏👏👏👏👏👏thx remembrancer

@_The_Mig_ Жыл бұрын

I love this videos, I enjoy them while having lunch 😍

@ciscornBIG Жыл бұрын

Your channel is my favorite.

@erubin100 4 ай бұрын

Things might've been different if only Lorgar had seen that the Bird is the one true Word...

@PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven Жыл бұрын

If the Emperor would just leave them to their silly antics Chaos would be easily defeated.

@royegabrieli5858 Жыл бұрын

Not really, they allowed the worship of the old faith (Chaos) alongside the worship of the emperor. So they made him stronger, but also his enemies.

@vazzeg Жыл бұрын

I was cleaning while listening to this great video and when he repeated "Specialists such as the Ashen Circle" twice, I thought there's a glitch in the matrix. Had to go back to check it's in the video and not only in my head lol.

@zaneriva5903 11 ай бұрын

Anyone have some advice for what I could use to make a Zahariel mini? I'm new to the hobby and want to build a Dark Angels army. Just starting Fallen Angels in the Horus Heresy and Zahariel has been my favorite character since Descent of Angels but I'm not sure howni could play him on the table.

@vicstanfieldshire7754 Жыл бұрын

I played Space Marine when it first came out; it blew me away and that’s when my jump into the WH40K Universe began. It has always been challenging to get a hold on the chronological “order” of things. So I began the HH saga with Horus rising (using my @theremembrancer Audible discount) and I’ve been supplementing with your channel, A Border Prince, Sir Baldy, Warrior Tier, Luetin etc… I know the Book of Lorgar was already a thing that Garviel Loken comes upon in the early books of the HH, but I can never find where Lorgar actually wrote the “Lecticio Divinitatus” Is there a video explaining the timeline of each Primarch, when they were found, what they did before being discovered, what they did to earn their Legions etc…? Love all of this and can’t thank you all enough for all of the work you put into this.

@DaniMol Жыл бұрын

You're going to have a very difficult time finding just videos that will help you, reading the novels and stories really is what will allow you to understand all of that. Lorgar published his book before Monarchia was burned. It's possible if he had held it back until Monarchia, he never would have released it.

@vicstanfieldshire7754 Жыл бұрын

@@DaniMol it’s definitely a heavy ask for any content creator I’m certain 😂. I’ve just finished Mechanicum and until I get my next audible credit I usually re-listen to several of the previous novels. So far I really did enjoy “Legion” “Galaxy in Flames” and “Flight of the Eisenstein”

@vicstanfieldshire7754 Жыл бұрын

@@DaniMol I’m really excited to hear Lorgar and Magnus lore.

@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith Жыл бұрын

There's a couple collections of short stories about the Primarchs that outline it, but rarely are novels that direct. You're more likely to get straightforward descriptions from codex or rulebooks which isn't all that helpful considering how scattered that all is.

@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith Жыл бұрын

The Grimdark Narrator is kind of dry, but he does have pretty comprehensive lists of videos overing everything. Majorkill also does a lot but he's an acquired taste of memelord bro style and colors a lot of his lore with jokes and vulgarity. And just avoid Arch... that guy's just a douche.

@julianhermanez1694 Жыл бұрын

Top stuff

@Vroomerz Жыл бұрын

10:07 Our Blessed Lady Cyrene

@jjvagnar1 Жыл бұрын

7:03 Lorgar looks like he's about to knock out Apollo Creed andyell 'ADRIAAAN!' at the top of his voice here

@SSangsen Жыл бұрын

it's Argel Thal, not Lorgar.

@KarlKingz 10 ай бұрын

Magnus did no wrong and Lorgar was ahead of his time....

@Horus-Lupercal Жыл бұрын

*SPEAK, BROTHERS.*

@blagojpejov4155 Жыл бұрын

Traitors to humanity

@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith Жыл бұрын

You're all traitors to yourselves.

@ludovicfernand2016 Жыл бұрын

Ce serait super et sympa que vous fassiez une video sur les deux légions inconnues la deuxième et la onzième ce sont les deux manquantes pour je ne sais quelle raison bizarre car tout cela est fictif

@martintodd9944 Жыл бұрын

There is no data on them, so will be a very short video

@RevolverRho Жыл бұрын

I can’t really state how much I hate Erebus and Kor Phaeron, pure evil for the sake of it.

@bluegeniusw1186 Жыл бұрын

,,Death followed them whether the Herald lived or died. Sometimes you need victory and sometimes you need a symbol."

@jamesneese7663 Жыл бұрын

Some things are not about the causalities. It's about sending a message. And any city or group that was dumb enough to kill a herald gave the legion carte blanche to wipe them out of existence, even the women and children and civilians who had no say in the city's "defiance". After a few massacres, you'd think some people would take the hint. but nah.

@thecommentguy9380 Жыл бұрын

ngl if Lorgar decided to teach mankind to worship themselves, Big E might find them the most based legion

@warrenweaver6664 3 ай бұрын

There should be a sign that says Erebus did nothing wrong. 😂 that would be great

@jrr7031 Жыл бұрын

Where is that 30k Animation from?!?!??!?!!?!?

@SSangsen Жыл бұрын

Death of Hope by Mark Spark.

@faraichirimuuta3748 Жыл бұрын

god damn I feel bad for Lorgar. He sees a vision of a god king arrive, it happens, he worships this god king and gets punished for it. Fast forward ten years, and the whole imperium is doing the same thing, while he and his people are outcasts. Biggest mistake the Emperor ever did and it's responsible for the whole heresy

@billdavis7577 Жыл бұрын

I agree, the destruction of Manarchia was beyond a heavy handed response. Makes you wonder if he did it all knowing full well what would happen later.

@astrovarius543 Жыл бұрын

His mistake was not ensuring Lorgar adhered to his will and desire. Lorgar literally defied his own God, and pikachu-faced when got punished lol Wasn't the Emperor's mistake. It was Lorgars. And then he doubled down.

@Michaentus Жыл бұрын

Warp loop 21:04

@cyanideinmycereal1077 Жыл бұрын

Lorgar was right! Glory to the God Emperor!

@guilledcf1547 11 ай бұрын

lorgar aurelian, baldest of the bald primarchs

@spookymaddy2599 Жыл бұрын

Behold, Corvus Corax’s favorite chew toys, Lorgars bastard Sons, the Word Bearers.

@BarelyDecentProduction Жыл бұрын

God damn it Lorgar...

@maxedge2409 Ай бұрын

Wasn't it Colchis that they burnt and not Monarkia?

@myfetishstory Жыл бұрын

29:10 nightmare fuel

@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith Жыл бұрын

Welcome to 40k, mate.

@jamesneese7663 Жыл бұрын

the funny part in all this, we have only the word (no pun intended, honest) of Erebus and Kor that Lorgar is alive and well. Can the two biggest liars in galactic history (and that's saying a LOT) be trusted to be telling the truth? Even Pretarabo and Angeron and Fulgrim put in a few massacres after the Horus Heresy. Lorgar though, completely AWOL. That's more than a little sus. Then comes the matter that Erebus and Kor are both among the most infamous snakes and backstabbers in human history, both of them having often said the legion would operate much better if Lorgar was out of the way. Who is to say that Erebus hasn't been running the greatest scam since the Heresy itself, having murdered or imprisoned the primarch, then using Lorgar's name and reputation for his own ends? The Word Bearers legion is a legion all about self deception and misguided fanatics ..so what's one more betrayal and deception to those two fork tongued bastards?

@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith Жыл бұрын

I think the Emperor is the biggest liar... well, behind the Alpha Legion that is. They even lie to themselves.

@Uzzgub Жыл бұрын

A Interaction for the Interaction God, a Comment for the Comment Throne, for the Almighty Algorithm

@crack61616 Жыл бұрын

i mean...if ya looked back at erebus his eyerings,it is obviously he had sum shit going on....dark shit.

@patrickmcneil5089 Жыл бұрын

Chants words from the book of lorgar

@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith Жыл бұрын

Damn Emperor should have just told the Primarchs about Chaos from the beginning. Magnus, Lorgar, Horus, Mortarion, Fulgrim and even Alpharius ALL underestimated Chaos and fell into its lure because they had no idea, no preparation, no point of reference. The Emperor was a hypocrite. He preached "truth" to the point of openly punishing, subjugating or exterminating anyone who stood against truth but then keeps secret after secret and pushes lie after lie. The Horus Heresy ALWAYS comes back to the Emperor's flaws which indeed prove that he is no god. Only a human can be as arrogant, prideful, naive, ignorant and overconfident as he was. If he WAS a god, he'd be the god of Hubris BUT, each traitor primarch were also responsible for their own fall. Every one was warned at one point or another to turn back, but they all had the same stubbornness as their "father" and passed their points of no return, perhaps not fully aware of what they were doing but still cautioned nonetheless.

@bodricthered Жыл бұрын

Remember, I only wanted the truth...... Boi was always going to go FUBAR

@christopherbonner4454 Жыл бұрын

It is really ironic to know that all the emperor of mankind had to do was humor lorgar just a little bit and the Horus heresy would never have happened. The strewed up thing is, if the emperor is all knowing of things. Then why would he let it happen to begin with? Does this mean he isn’t omniscient? He didn’t know that the Horus heresy was going to happen? Was he that arrogant? Did he not think that his kids wouldn’t retaliate against him for doing screwed up things to them? It comes to my questions about my own beliefs and the whole grand scheme of things and religion in general. Yes I’m talking about Christianity. Sometimes it makes no sense at all. Yet at times it makes perfect sense. I guess we’ll never know till we are dead, and even then we might not get it. Maybe we are never meant to understand.

@ImperatorSomnium Жыл бұрын

I bet Lorraine doesn't like Edgar Allan Poe

@richardvaldes3959 Жыл бұрын

I miss Argel Tal

@FlourEater Жыл бұрын

I hate Erebus and Lorgar...but the WB sure has very cool lore and Argel Tal is the bro. Still I will never bring myself to playing them. Love playing against them.

@x0lopossum 11 ай бұрын

🟥🟥⬜⬜28:29Thr Unrelenting zeal of the Word Bearers... 29:45 FAITH IS THE SOUL OF ALL ARMIES 1:20 The 17th doesn't care about glory, but duty and penance🟥🟥🟥🟥⬜⬜🟥⬜⬜🟥⬜⬜⬜🟥🟥⬜⬜🟥⬜⬜🟥⬜🟥🟥🟥🟥🟥🟥⬜⬜🟥🟥🟥⬜🟥🟥⬜🟥⬜⬜ 2:30 The Word Bearers are fanatical religious zealous. 3:30 Total War Warhammer. 28:50 Primarch of the Raven Guard harasses the word bearers. 9:50 Epic OST

@NominalInterest Жыл бұрын

Lead by the fruitiest, softest and pussified Primatch of them all Lorgar "Where's my make-up kit" Aurelian

@aaronslater470 7 ай бұрын

of all the factions of 40k I truly enjoy killing Word Bearers the most

@MrZell324 Жыл бұрын

The First Heretics

@Vroomerz Жыл бұрын

Argel Tal did nothing wrong.

@andrewternet8370 Жыл бұрын

Iconoclasm 🤢🤢🤮 Based Orthodoxy 😎😎😇

@yeahno6053 Жыл бұрын

THey are the worse of the astartes ...... They made the lodges . Erebus was the one whos pread chaos across the primarchs

@Overanalyse_This Жыл бұрын

YES I KNOW THAT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANGRON OR WORLD EATERS. PLEASE FIRST FULLY READ THIS MESSAGE A FEW TIMES BEFORE TAKING SOME TIME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE REPLYING: After seeing one of the images you used, I now NEED Kratos to be a World Eater! And I'm not talking mature beard Kratos. I want that toxic Greek goatee Kratos!! And he needs to have some serious issue with Angron about the weakness of submitting to the nails. Which he says as he has Angron, slumped in front of him, and rips the nails out of his head. Then he looks in the eyes of Angron, blade of Chaos in hand and says 'Let me show you true rage! BOY!". Anyone who disagrees are a hater. Not a WH40K or GOW hater. Just someone with an issue about others being happy and excited. Are you a hater? Do you want to make people sad? Well dear hater, you have already been doing this for years without ever knowing.

@Future-Corpse 11 ай бұрын

Kratos isnt in 40k and this video is about world bearers not the word eaters

@cedricstewart9324 Жыл бұрын

Hello how are you

@emperorconstantine1.361 Жыл бұрын

With their worship of the God-Emperor, they did nothing wrong. But, though his father had the right to correct his ways, it is Rowboat Girlyman who is truly responsible for turning the greatest of loyal sins to the dark powers. He mocked his brother, lied saying he “loved all his brothers”, took pride in destroying his brother’s works, and above all else, did not try to beg the emperor to ease his punishment. It was not the emperor who turned Lorgar, but the son who has shown to be thirsty of being the ruler, the one who created the heretical Imperium Secundus, and tried to hide its history even to the 42nd millennium. The greatest traitor and most dishonorable of all primarchs, Rowboat Girlyman.

@HandsomeLad69 2 ай бұрын

Word bears were not slouches

@onionhat745 6 ай бұрын

Someone who calls himself "the Emperor of Mankind" should have a better understanding of human psychology.

@Taydutt13 Жыл бұрын

I feel bad for Lorgar he plotted, and he schemed and did whatever he had to to achieve his objective and at the moment of truth.. it was his time to take what is his he shits the bed. Why couldn't he have just gone for it? andEvenn if he lost to Horus, there is no shame to losing to someone better than you.. At least you tried. Terrible writing by gw imo

@vrius-threeeye4087 Жыл бұрын

wm0

@ranro7371 4 ай бұрын

this is corpse lord propaganda Word Bearers are the only decent faction.

@NP3GA Жыл бұрын

I know I'm being that guy but "Iconoclast" is not a good way to describe the Word Bearers. The actual Iconoclasts were still Christians they just saw the using of icons in worship as just paganism with extra steps, if they were right or not I don't know and I don't care, I know though that you maybe need to change it to something else

@JudicialBrat Жыл бұрын

I think its simply rhetoric.

@colefriel3171 Жыл бұрын

The iconoclasts were wrong

@richtheunstable3359 Жыл бұрын

Heretic Astartes is also the wrong term for them. Apostate Astartes perhaps?

@Shan_Lung138 Жыл бұрын

I believe the Emperor would have known all the myriad religions prior to the “births” of the primarchs. Which I think is why the Emperor berated Lorgar and his children; as being misguided and petulant. Now I’m going to have to buy the Word Bearers’ omnibus and other novels. Great talking points!!!💯

@Nikkehansson Жыл бұрын

The use of the word iconoclast today is figurative and is not directly referring to the Byzantine iconoclasts. Today it means: "a person who attacks settled beliefs or institutions" or "a person who destroys religious images or opposes their veneration". Both seem quite apt for the word bearers attack on the imperial truth.

@matthewgalt7845 Жыл бұрын

excellent lore mate enjoying your channel alot carry on sir . Blood for the blood god

@chadking375 4 ай бұрын

Bud, you got Lorgar’s time on his home world wrong, he was “adopted” by Kor Phaeron, not by The Brotherhood. Kor Phaeron led a band of outcast nomads who Lorgar overtook as their leader, he assembled other outcasts under his banner then declared war. They had no idea of him until he showed up at their doorstep. The old faith was stamped out but kept alive by Kor Phaeron. It would be wise to do more than skim a wiki and spread misinformation cause you got almost everything wrong.