Working of The Telelever Suspension In BMW R1200GS.

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Working of The Telelever Suspension In BMW R1200GS.

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BMW R1200GS is one the best if not the best adventure motorcycle on sale today. The bike has some traits which helps it standout from the crowd. In this video we will discuss about one such trait the telelever suspension system.
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@aidanpysher2764 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2015 GS LC. I think the telelever is one of the most brilliant designs for a motorcycle suspension. It's a little heavier and a bit complex, but these drawbacks are heavily outweighed by the positive aspects of the design. Not only does it practically eliminate brake dive, but it greatly improves cornering, as it doesn't want to stand the bike up as much in a corner - meaning that it's much easier to brake harder near the apex of a corner and thus, take it faster. People complain about the feeling of it, but it's an acquired taste that pays off once you can appreciate it. With the flat twin and dual radiators, the shock behind the forks is given extra room, and having a radiator on each side with the fang shaped ducts actually drastically improves cooling, for it's not a single radiator with airflow obstructed by the forks.

@truthseeker8483 4 жыл бұрын

I agree it is a great design...it is now 2020 so I believe it is time vehicle suspension systems were greatly improved over what was available 80 years ago...

@Titan500J 5 жыл бұрын

I just got a 05 1200 GS with less than 2000 miles. Your explanation of the workings of the front suspension was excellent. Thank you

@Bugside Жыл бұрын

I finally understood, it's not that it doesn't dive on braking, it just keeps the wheels the same distance when diving

@joem5639 5 жыл бұрын

Having never been on a BMW motorcycle before and recently test ridden the new 1250 GS I must say I’m very impressed with the telelever suspension. I was looking for bumps and potholes to hit and it easily soaked it up. It’s OK if it’s more complicated. 2 radiators? That’s fine. My VFR 800 has 2 radiators for the sake of moving the V4 engine further forward. Works just fine.

@inthesPhila 4 жыл бұрын

Sudden strong side gusts of wind yank my helmet all around but GS's w Telelever front suspensions seem to go straight with barely a wiggle, it's amazing. First time I noticed was on the Atlantic coast of Ireland with fierce ocean breezes while riding behind tall hedges and walls, then into open barren spots where I knew the side wind speeds were going 0 to 50 to 0 mph again and again.

@johnbrewer7221 4 жыл бұрын

I've never owned a GS but have owned two R1150RT bikes, an R1150R, and currently own an R1150 Rockster and an R1150RS. I love the R1150 motor and the paralever/telelever suspension. Simple yet robust, with great controllability. However, for an offroad bike, I prefer traditional forks for their lower weight and much greater suspension travel.

@inthesPhila 4 жыл бұрын

13 days riding a loaded '15 1200GS two up in Ireland was awesome. The bike did not waver when we were riding 40+mph along the Atlantic Ocean behind a 12ft high wall hiding the 30-50 mph crosswind. Of course the wall would end at a gate or a property line and we would suddenly be in a huge open left to right cross wind. The bike would barely notice however our full face helmets would buffet with one big swing each. I give credit to the GS and the Telelever in particular for this desirable trait, like no other bike I've ridden.

@demosthenescotto2190 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for producing this very informative video on the TL suspension system. Let's take the sports bike out of the equation. The TL suspension incorporated into the BMW R1200C Cruiser (James Bond) is a breakthrough in the handling and control for the rider. This 1200C is my first bike and I've never felt my ability to exceed my confidence. I've always felt at one with my bike. I truly enjoyable riding experience everytime I take her out for a ride. Which is why I ride. I don't get over confident and exceed my ability but the TL suspension allows me continually grow and mature as a new rider. Thank you again for producing the video. I appreciate your efforts. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.

@michaelskinner896 3 ай бұрын

Nicely done with excellent explanations.

@uday88121 6 жыл бұрын

Best video ever. You really explained the suspension system in detail keep it up man. Thank you it was really informative as I wanted to the details of the system

@RevvingHeart 6 жыл бұрын

Glad that you find the video informative and thanks for the inspiring words.

@martinslocombe2288 4 жыл бұрын

Back on a GS after a couple of years on a Yamaha fazer 1000, Telelever fork was much missed the anti dive ride quality is superb .Twin cam 2012 air/oil cooled bike is the best version for me it has great sound /character and punchy acceleration especially with full Akropovic system flappy valve removed ,K& N air filter and power commander V5 .This bike goes anywhere... cruddy back roads or smooth fast twisties .The Fazer always felt unstable on bad roads notchy gearshift and wanted to go fast all the time ....,which is not good in the UK ! The GS is a perfect road bike ,with a bit of fettling its even better !

@santanubose1653 5 жыл бұрын

Great video it helped me understand the system better

@SlothHunter2 5 жыл бұрын

excellent review and explanation. Thank you

@krachenford9594 4 жыл бұрын

Good video, Kouthrapaly!

@cpeu671 6 жыл бұрын

good job on explanation on a fairly complex topic.

@rx72nr 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2019 R1250 GSA. Thanks for this video!

@beeboyes 4 жыл бұрын

Really informative! Especially the animation shows how the stanchions rotate in the upper fork bridge, which is a unique feature of this suspension since the wheel insribes an arc as the suspension compresses.

@pawelwis7215 10 ай бұрын

GS is so brilliant? Yeah especially when it comes to clutch replacement or service cost`s. Thank You stay with Japan!

@faustin289 4 жыл бұрын

Ingenious. My sport(ish) bike does not have a radiator, so i guess a telelever system is on order.

@davidmuller9903 3 жыл бұрын

good, informative video!

@sustainableliving880 Жыл бұрын

Good video. Next step is how to test ESA to 2012 , oil levels?

@biker3366 4 жыл бұрын

i be a possessor of abmw gs1200 2005 and the telelever impres mi so much its the best solution i never see i have a meny bike bat no one has comparable with bmw gs

@josephsanecra8386 2 жыл бұрын

Very well explained

@damytzeus 3 жыл бұрын

telever is fantastic. i wish bmw would build a light/mid weight bike with long travel telever, that uses a light parallel twin motor. this is bmw's competitive advantage and i don't understand how come they don't apply to more bikes. telever is terrific. when i ride my other bikes, i really miss telever. duolever on the k bikes is also fabulous. i had a k1200s and loved it. again, i wish bmw would apply these technologies to lighter motorcycles -truly light, not the f850. f850 is heavy. thank you for video.

@DoctorMthepodcast 6 жыл бұрын

Brilliantly explained. Now all u need is to edit it slick and add a soundtrack u are out to be a star logger. Keep it up

@RevvingHeart 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support.

@SlothHunter2 5 жыл бұрын

no no no, don't screw it up with stupid soundtrack.

@bigmock141 6 жыл бұрын

Brilliant

@bezmena8039 3 жыл бұрын

I have been riding a whole row of BMW R 1XXX GS motorcycles since the beginning of the nineties. I ride a lot. This video should have stressed the main advantage of the telever/parlever setup, which is safety. In connection with ABS, the systems allow the rider to perform a full emergency braking in a turn, just like it allows to perform an evasive turning maneuver during any absolutely hard braking. In agitated riding, it also allows to brake hard not before a turn, but actually in a turn, as late as all the way to the apex of the turn, and letting the rider accelerate fully from there. On many occasions, these systems prevented hard, potentially tragic crashes. On uneven surfaces, where the road has a series of "waves" in which the suspensions travel up and down, the wheelbase remains constant. When this happens in a turn, the riding does not get affected, the motorcycle does not twist, it remains stable, allowing for much higher speeds and more safety. I will never risk riding a motorcycle WITHOUT these systems anymore.

@orangelion03 Жыл бұрын

I'm in the process of downsizing after seven years on Telever bikes (2006 GS, 2017 GSA) wanting something lighter. But...I worry that I have gotten used to Telever and it's been a long time since I have aggressively ridden anything else.

@bezmena8039 Жыл бұрын

@@orangelion03 It is not only a matter of riding aggressively. You can be a defensive rider but should you find yourself in a collision course with some car (for instance) or in the need of hard braking in a turn, telelever and paralever will give you the extra safety you may need to prevent a crash. I would rather not trade safety for a few Kg. of weight. Being able to fully brake in a turn, or to make an evasive turn during an emergency braking is a huge advantage which I would not like to lose.

@orangelion03 Жыл бұрын

@@bezmena8039 Agreed.

@stephanuhu963 6 жыл бұрын

Very good explanation. And great video footage and imagery. I ride a R1200 GS Adv, oilhead series, and have had an R1100 GS prior and I absolutely love these bikes. Two comments: The slider on telelever front ends have no shock absorbing action. When you replace leaking fork seals on the telescopic sliders of these bikes, you will see there are no valves, no pressurised gas and of course no springs inside. Second, the telelever advantages outweigh the drawbacks, but it is unfortunately true that they are hard on shocks. The physics cannot be cheated - There is only so much oil and gas pressure in a single front and single rear shock. Half as much oil must heat up, shred the oil molecules from the shearing action through the valving, and strain the seals twice as fast as twin shocks at each end will do. If you load the panniers, add a passenger, fill that big fuel tank and hit the backroads and mountain trails, it really work the shocks hard, and something is likely to go. Regardless of whether White Power, Showa or Ohlins makes them...

@Testfortest142 6 жыл бұрын

Stephan 'Uhu' Can't they simply mount 2 schock absorbers?

@joem5639 5 жыл бұрын

Touratech makes very high quality replacement shocks that are more robust and suitable for off road use. Supposedly, the OEM shocks are designed for a 175 lb rider on smooth roads.

@mathiasjacob16 4 жыл бұрын

Good one👍👍👍

@samlantot2918 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the extremely in depth review. really appreciate it. I was really confused about the telelever and your video explained it perfectly. I currently own the Kawasaki Versys 1000LT and at sometime, looking at upgrading to a 2014 or earlier BMW R1200RT- it's such an awesome Motorcycle.

@gauravb997 5 жыл бұрын

Informative. Thanks.

@monteiro5306 6 жыл бұрын

Hi from Brazil. An amazing and didactic video. Please, more videos! 👍👍

@RevvingHeart 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother, will do my best to put out more contents like this....🙂🙂🙂

@sukhdeepsingh9335 3 жыл бұрын

Awwwwwesome explaination...

@UncleDon226 5 жыл бұрын

Very cool. Have you considered doing a video on trailing link suspension? I saw one on the Honda Rune and it confused me. It looks like it has telescopic forks, but they're not. Go check it out if you are into this stuff.

@angelarcelay 6 жыл бұрын

Are the struts height adjustable in this bike?

@RevvingHeart 6 жыл бұрын

Angel Arcelay Yes they are adjustable. The newer comes with electronic suspension.

@ryanthompson2893 3 жыл бұрын

So, for your average rider who rarely if ever exceeds 120 MPH this is the best suspension system out there.

@bharathkumarhere 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video, but the disadvantages are not at all there i would say, as you mentioned the sports bike have lower ground clearance and the need for telelever is totally absent. The second point any advanced mechanism will have complexity and BMW has addressed it very well.

@tonycook7679 2 жыл бұрын

I know it's late to bother you, but you must have meant "lower centre of mass", since lower ground clearance is the last thing that would be a positive for a sports bike.

@uday88121 6 жыл бұрын

Please make a video about different types of motorcycle frame and please also with detail it will be really helpful and great information. Please if possible do this.

@RevvingHeart 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, of course I'am planning to do a video on the subject soon.

@Bhatakti_Hawas 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid. Make a vid about BMW Paralever suspension

@boomblab23 6 жыл бұрын

Smaller stanchion wow no wonder there's soo many failures with fork snapping off

@nischal4444 4 жыл бұрын

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@AnilKumar-td8jz 3 жыл бұрын

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@arnarne 3 жыл бұрын

Seems like an excellent video but I find it very difficult to hear what the guy is actually saying because of the accent. I still don't understand how the telelever works...

@mqarhsdm 3 жыл бұрын

Turn on closed captioning. That helped me understand him perfectly.

@jblue1299 6 жыл бұрын

The GS is an excellent running bike for about 3 years, then the warranty expires, and the bike begins to fall apart, at this point, it becomes very expensive to own the GS !!

@RevvingHeart 6 жыл бұрын

Really??!! Don't get me wrong, but I never heard anything bad about the reliability of the GS.

@brozobmwmex 5 жыл бұрын

Well, let me share my personal experience with that kind of bike. I own a 1200 gs 2006 since 2015. So the warranty... what's that??? Jeje; the point is that I learn to make the services to my bike, I bought the GS 911, some torque wrenches and that's it. Never... ever have had a problem with my bike. I keep a file of everything I have done to it, read a lot about mechanics, took courses and always traying to understand better my bike and constantly improving my riding and so far I just don't know what's a warranty or an accident, just have always enjoy every ride. Oh, by the way, it has been received for a recall for the flange at ZERO cost. So, I don't have complains about it. For me THE BEST BIKE EVER!!!

@PaulSmith-dy8ul 4 жыл бұрын

Got a 2011 1200 gs, just done a 100 000 miles. Still going strong as an ox. With minimal upkeep costs. It does 30% off road 70% o road. Only ever gets thrashed. Love it

@stefanivitoria458 6 жыл бұрын

Neil Pearts motorcycle

@beluga3885 Жыл бұрын

Malayali bro aano?

@RevvingHeart Жыл бұрын

😜

@beluga3885 Жыл бұрын

@@RevvingHeart Accent kekkumbol manasilaayi 😌

@ontwowheels6479 2 жыл бұрын

My GS has taught me what real hatred is. I had no idea until now. I pray bmw goes out of business and is erased from the earth.

@RevvingHeart 2 жыл бұрын

Why, what happened??

@ontwowheels6479 2 жыл бұрын

@@RevvingHeart constant issues. The bike is under engineered to look over engineered but the truth is bmw can’t engineer themselves out of a paper bag. They can’t even make a transmission that will do more than 60k miles. They have a death grip on parts. Nobody can sell parts but them. There’s no aftermarket and parts are unrealistically expensive. The performance of the bike is really nothing to write home about. I want to like this bine so bad. I want to be part of the club. But it’s not for me.

@RevvingHeart 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that..

@raynic1173 4 жыл бұрын

Ah, Honda was building "scramblers" back in the '60s. and bikes of WWI were ridden off road regularly, so...BMW, ah...not.

@scha0306 3 жыл бұрын

Were they 800cc's? Ah, no.

@raynic1173 3 жыл бұрын

@@scha0306 right 800 cc and 40 hp, lol.

@ontwowheels6479 2 жыл бұрын

Such BS. This is just Marketing. Something to make rich people feel better. There’s absolutely zero difference with this over engineered nonsense.

@tonycook7679 2 жыл бұрын

well clearly there is a difference, the question is only whether it is a beneficial difference. I assume you have ridden one of these for some time to have formed your opinion.

@ontwowheels6479 2 жыл бұрын

@@tonycook7679 I have one of these hunks of shit in my garage right now. Why don’t you come buy it. Get it out of my hair. Bmw engineering rides the short bus. full stop. Seriously tho. Come get this junk off my property. This GS taught me what real hatred is.