Most rules are…. Look at the standards and practices in aviation. They are all written in the blood of the pilots and passengers who came before….

And excessive speed sign

That's the truth.

Yup.

Dark but true

Same!! Couldn't even imagine! 😱

I've seen enough of those tales to make sure if I ever go anywhere it could happen, that there are three people standing outside waiting for me to come back out.

Very much so. The Bumble Bee Tuna factory incident is also horrifying, but nothing like the Tampa Electric power plant slag accident.

yah guy got cooked crispy

Personally, I would have placed something in the doorway to block the door from closing if I had to enter that death trap.

Worst bad day ever

the elites import illegals in mass to do these kinds of jobs but americas are more aware

Yea, had they died on the 2nd or 3rd day, not nearly as tragic.

I die inside every monday morning

Imagine just dying at work period.

It takes effort and most importantly costs money to do anything. Which is mostly why I have lost my hope in humanity a long time ago. Nobody can be bothered to care until they are forced to. Nobody ever thinks, "what if?"

Two near hits

corporations/bosses wont fix shit until it becomes a them problem. I remember a girl who worked for an icecream place, dairy queen i think it was, the escape latch on the walk in freezer was broken and several employees were getting trapped inside and the boss wouldnt allow them to have phones to call for help, or even leave the freezer door propped open while they were in it. It wasnt until the boss herself got trapped inside for like an hour/hour and half that she finally put in a work order and quickly got it fixed.

Even the person doing it. Like, they probably couldn't pay me enough to go in the thing, because I'm a paranoid dude, but if I had to that pry bar or like a steel chair or something is being wedge in the door so it can't close and lock on me.

@@XAltrus Not anywhere near a guarantee that you will be able to get out or the oven won't start heating up. If it is pneumatically driven, it can close anyway though being bent at the point where the pry bar is located, and if no sensors pick that up and shuts it down, you will be a crisp anyway. Also, you cannot rely on other people to be your safe guard. We had a case here in Denmark at a power plant with an experimental hall for high voltage testing. A guy was sent into a grid construction to clean it out because dust could ignite and damage it, so he asked if the unit had been closed down, was given the assurance that it was and walked in there. He never got to do any cleaning at all and they only found his half burned shoes and a stump of the broom he had with him. The rest of him and all the other stuff he carried in there had simply vaporized. The plant shut down years later, but the building still stands and has been turned into a major modern warehouse. But you can still see the spot where he died, because the concrete floor still has the burn marks from the accident, and nobody wants to remove it or place something over it, as it is somehow understood that this burned spot is all there is left to remember him by. Not even the present owners of the building is inclined to have it removed or covered. And unofficially, the building is named after him.

Lock out Tag Out, shit saves lives.

unfortunately it's not the only death that happened in this manner, there was another one in a tuna-canning facility where a worker died in an oven used to sterilize tuna cans

@@Operngeist1 Also one in a bakery, where a worker was locked in the bread baking oven. Never ignore safety rules thinking "just this one time won't hurt."

I recently saw one where instead of a kiln it was an industrial dryer, basicaly the same premise.

I’m trying to think how his daughter felt as it was her husband who accidentally killed her father!

Me too, us that work in plants/shops are all feeling the same

Same, we just had our annual LOTO refresher this week, Insane that anyone would be permitted to go into these situations without the machine being locked out.

I once worked in a warehouse with a robotic system managing hundreds of thousands of items. Every entry point large enough to accomodate a human had sensors that would automatically lock out the entire system, requiring a full inspection before the system was reset. Needless to say anyone causing this to happen without a very good explanation was fired on the spot as operations where shut down for at least an hour to do this. This rule was written in blood too.

@@dogcarman Automation service/engineer since y. 1996. Any automated system was clearly labelled as "NO ENTRY" area. And any maintenance requires power off, locked switch and additional label on it says "No switch ON, maintenance in progress". I worked also on 6kV high power systems, touching live wire was instant death. No room for mistakes.

Electrician here wondering the same. It's easy, and easily prevents loads of things like this from being possible or at least, significantly reduces the possibility.

Reminds me of the Russian girl who called her mother while a bear and her cubs were eating her.

Omg, I remember hearing about that. How horrific!

Just reading about that now, the company was fined $500,000. A similar accident had happened in 1997 and Tampa Electric had safety procedures to prevent a recurrance but ignored them as it would cost time and money to have done the job safely. The company's excuse boiled down to "It's not killed anyone yet and some other places do it too".

I mean three of them survived long enough to be taken to the hospital, including Antonio, so I think your exaggerating just a bit there.

Reminds me... My late grandfather worked for Atlantic Steel. I'm told her actually witnessed at least one person fall into the giant vats of molten metal. Instantly incinerated to nothing. Being burned to death is one of the more horrific ways to go.

Reminds me of that video in China where a woman tries to stop an overloaded tipping forklift by holding on to the back as it tipped forward, once the load had slid off the forks the machine stopped tipping and slammed down on top of her, all five tons of it. The driver, obviously knowing exactly what to do in an accident, drove the forklift off of her breaking any bones that were not already shattered and ensuring no chance of her survival.

@@krashd I saw that, oooh…**shudders**

Our forklift trainer tried to trick us by asking for a ride back to the shop by hanging on the side of the forklift. I looked him straight in the eye and said, "No, you gotta walk."

And a reason why some products are so cheap that local manufacturers are knocked out is that the competition are in countries where they do not care about details like that.

Right! You can live through teasing and harassment from co-workers and bosses, but you might not live through an industrial accident. It's never worth it.

Agreed. Even strict protocols can’t save people with a death trap like that kiln. What a horrific design and what a horrible death.

Or an isolator.

Or a lock out panel.

Was union and then later a safety team member at another job. We always say two things: Your life isn't worth this job Your health is more valuable than your paycheck

@@TheChaosOneX that's what I try to pass along. Nothing you do here is worth not coming home for

And even though we all don't like the annoying safety guy he's there for a reason and anything unsafe being done should be reported even if it's a near miss or an incident

Even something as simple as a saw stop in woodworking, is there because someone lost their limbs to it. Same goes for using push sticks and push blocks through table mounted routers, jointers and thickness planers, two handed operation of hand held tools, etc. Its all there because someone either died or was maimed for life and I always try to push the narrative like you do, despite it not being my job. I always comment on KZfaq videos where unsafe practices are used, but not discouraged and explained, as people will repeat what others do, unless told how unsafe it is. It's the channel owners responsibility to research and use safe practices or otherwise explain why their practices aren't safe and shouldn't be copied. I do sometimes use unsafe practices myself, but only when there are no other options available than what is unsafe and even then I do my best to be as safe as possible. No work is worth losing limbs or losing your life to.

people used to groan when I would show safety videos. I would stop the video and explain that someone probably died and that's why we're watching. it got people to pay attention better than anything else I could have said.

each workplace safety rule is written in blood

You can still have some extremely nasty accidents NOW. I know of two elevator accidents where blood ran down the outside of the doors on one and the guy almost lost both hands to the elbows on the 2nd one.

Yes I'm a maintenance engineer and was thinking to myself 'permits to work, Job safey analysis and isolation locks' this entire video

Have you seen the Chinese animation workplace fatalities?

what does "as a ...." have to do with anything?

General interest as part of being in the field.

I’m a factory manager and this is very disturbing and fascinating to watch.

Recommendable safety precautions! There have been many people being killed, because they were not that smart. It's really just easy to be safe than sorry.

I think as electricians we are probably a bit more in tune with lock out tag out than the average person.

Glad to hear you mention Tag Out, because it can be used in a residential environment, where most equipment does not have loops for locks. I use it (learned about it at my first employer, even though I was an office worker) for DYI work, especially at the electrical panel.

Every time I hear about these, I feel grateful for the OSHA course.

Piper Alpha could have been prevented had they used a similar lock-out protocol on the 'out-of-order' pump.

I worked at a plastic tubing and hose factory in statesville, nc and between the hot glue that had to be applied with a nozzle and seeing maintenance guys stick thier hands into the machinery that cuts the hoses to length without turning off the machines (they just “timed” it between the cuts) i am still amazed i didnt see more injuries

Once saw a guy w no arm on right side and no fingers on left. Apparently, when an elevator grabs your arm when you do something stupid, the instinct is to pull it out w other hand...

Theres a crazy amount of stories where the injury/death happens because "someone walked by and, seeing the machine off, turned it back on". How does no one stop to think, WHY is this machine off?

Carding machines would have to be one of the biggest dangers in a spinning plant. We had a guy loose all his fingers too. He was called "flipper" after that, seeing that's what his hand looked like.

part of this also just comes down to human ignorance/error. If you know a machine is being worked on, or if a machine that is normally on is turned off, why would you turn it on? why not find out if its off for a reason first?

Thinking the same thing! Not enough money in the world!

Now added to my list alongside complex cave systems requiring wriggling.

@@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures I'm with you. I once had a panic attack just READING about someone wriggling through a narrow place in a cave.

@@julieloucalcote1368 You could give me money because, I'd force someone at g**point to look out for me doing it if it came to it in the days before this happening. Maybe it's because, I'm used to being tricked and bullied as a kid.

I would never enter that kiln under any circumstances. Something like that should NEVER lock someone inside. Even in the walk-in freezers at -23c at the supermarket I used to work at, did not lock and indeed even included a handle on the inside, just in case.

Good boss, that. Treats his staff like human beings, rather than an income

On my first day of my apprenticeship as a mechatronics technician the safety advisor told me that a close friend and coworker was run over by a train two weeks prior, because he didn't pay attention. Accidents like these are tragically teaching good lessons.

My boss was strict about being complacent and the longer your around equipment increases the risk for an accident because you get so used to nothing happening and used to machinery you get to comfortable and that's when something happens so we always had to use the buddy system so if one gets complacent the other person can pull us away and remind us of how one second is all it takes

@@kobra6660 Even less than a second. If you're working with heavy machinery, like a lathe, it will turn you into minced meat in no time. Always be careful! ^^

@IndigoRyu thats why i had to retire from being around heavy machinery like this did this job everyday for so long and nothing happens i get to comfortable from and not even being worried about what could happen safety supervisor pulled me aside so often I just decided it was time to walk away

That's horrible 😮

Yeah that was my cousin. They did say that to the family that they probably didn’t realize what happened . Sad . My aunt killed herself after because of it

@@JoeRogansForehead Oh god, I'm so sorry for both losses. I hope your family has managed to start healing from the tragedies :(

@@animefallenangel it’s okay , I believe in reincarnation even if that sounds weird so hopefully they are still alive somewhere

This is assuming he didn't do it deliberately.

@@whofandbthat’s my question, could be a very tragic coincidence but if he had life insurance, a house… could be more sinister.

​@@biazacha You really think that wasn't considered?

Nah lol girlfriend’s father out of the way.😊

@@scrappydoo7887 depends. Sometimes businesses like to get things wrapped up. They could have just paid them off and not looked to deeply.

Did you get free hash browns though?..... 🤔😆👍🏻

​@@ashotofmercuryno, but they did let us take potatoes. Each bag of potatoes would hold around a ton, so they didn't lose much by letting us take them.

@kathyjones1576 I wish everyone had those work conditions

@@mwblackbelt I do too. I was fortunate in my only experience working in a factory. It is fascinating work, the manual labor, running the machines, fixing the machines if I could, learning how to drive a forklift. I'm working in a vet clinic now and I have found my heart's desire here, but of the other jobs I've had, the one in that factory was my favorite.

Please sell me the movie rights

I remember my work had lockout padlocks installed on a board in the supervisors office with 'two' keys. Every spare key was removed by the safety manager as soon as he spotted the mistake.

Exactly. Lockout tags are so common and well known but these companies clearly didn't give a shit.

@@Bopig the board had just been installed and it should have been spotted by the installer who has had all the required training. Possibly ' not my job' attitude 🙄

@@alistairthow1384 spare keys may be needed if someone loses a primary key, but all such keys definitely need to be locked in a safe with only the safety supervisors knowing the combination.

Ya hate to see it

It's "funny" that a lot of politicians these days are getting into government to undo regulations, or companies "innovating" by finding ways around existing regulations, only to have.... exactly the problems that are the reason we have regulations to start with! No one sat down and made up those rules just for shits and giggles. People died for them.

Sometimes that is true. Other times regulations are result of someone in industry A bribing their congressman better than the reps from industry B. Many times they are the result of lawmakers "solving" a problem they don't understand without any input from anyone in the industry. Look at trucking. The amount of regulations have increased dramatically over the last decade. So have accidents.

each workplace safety rule is written in blood

I think one of the main issues with LOTO isn't complacency or human error. It's that companies often make the LOTO procedure much more complicated than necessary and/or they limit the people who have the authority who can decide it needs to be done and then do it. The last one is purely about money- they don't want just any "lowly" shift worker to be the one with the authority to decide if LOTO needs to be done because in almost every case, shutting down machinery cuts into production. So if something breaks or needs to be done, the lowest on the totem pole- you know, the ones who do the actual work and are generally in the most danger- have to decide if they're just going to go ahead and carry out repairs/tasks and hope everything is OK or lose time and production and wait until some shift supervisor or manager can show up and hopefully authorize the LOTO and maybe they won't get in trouble for not getting as much done.

@@mommy2libras I'm lucky where I work then. Sure, you need to be trained to be able to perform LOTO and be given your locks and keys, but if you need to do something, you can lock 'er out and do whatever you gotta do inside the machine without the fear of somebody turning it on without realising you're in there, or having the machine do its stupid thing and running. I work in the press department of a factory that makes car parts, and those presses make a lot of scrap. _Most_ of it ends up going onto the conveyor and into the scrap bins, but some of it will gather under the machines and make a giant mess, We operators are given full permission to LOTO (provided we are certified and have been given our locks) to be able to safely perform the housekeeping work of cleaning those bits of scrap out. Hell, our management actually gives a shit about us being safe, and I certainly appreciate that.

I work in a vet clinic that has a few small autoclaves.The biggest one isn't even close to big enough for a person to get into, but they're hot enough to sterilize surgical instruments, so obviously extremely hot. I haven't learned to use them yet, but that time is coming. I've walked by them after the doors open and the heat is incredible.

there was a case of a woman dying in an autoclave that had a malfunctioning door and would fall shut on it's own so the fear is not unfounded

We have autoclaves the size of small rooms where I work and everyone is scared of them. Once the door is closed, there is an emergency door open cable, but damn near impossible to find in pitch black, especially if the autoclave is full of racks.

I lived near a steel plant. You'd drive past in your car when its below zero, and they'd go past with a piece of red hot metal on a "truck," and you could feel it.

@kathyjones1576 autoclaves actually get *hotter than boiling* - they're pressurized in such a way that they are able to defy the normal laws of physics. Using them is pretty simple (load, close door, select cycle, start, walk away) but the mechanicals of them are somewhat complicated.

each workplace safety rule is written in blood

Manager: we need you guys to mold more kayaks :( Worker: we don't have the time to speed things up? we are already very busy Manager: you guys have to work more "efficient" I guess

The fact that you can't see the kiln from the control panel seems like an incredibly poor design to me.

It's not the workers fault that the system was so poorly designed. I guarantee you that son-in-law had turned on that kiln thousands of times before over the duration of his work at that factory. Only one resulted in a deadly accident. Furthermore, he was not informed that there would be maintenance on that kiln today- for him, he was just doing his work as normal. He would have no other way to tell that something was out of the ordinary. I tell you this not because I think you're some sort of bad person for blaming the workers in this situation, but because blaming the individual covers up the very real problems with the systems these workers were operating in. The son-in-law simply pressed a switch that he's pressed thousands of times before to complete his job. It's the fact that the kiln was designed with no escape or no indication of a foreign body inside; it's the fact that no one communicated to the son-in-law that there was to be maintenance on the kiln that day; and it's the fact that the father-in-law wasn't trained in and didn't have the ability to lock out and tag the machine. All of these aspects are more to blame for the accident than a single worker who couldn't comprehend that the unthinkable might happen during a job he'd done every day until that point. Even then, EVEN THEN: it is impossible to remove human error from the workplace. Humans fuck up. Humans make mistakes. That is why there *must* be more than just a single human preventing a deadly accident. The system must be designed to accommodate human error without having a fatal accident. I would encourage you to look up the "Swiss Cheese" model of accident theory. If a single human decision manages to cause a fatal accident, then that is still indicative of a system that didn't have enough safeguards to prevent that accident.

I used to have to stock the freezer which I did not like whatsoever when I worked in fast food. And just like you said the emergency release for the door looked terrible.

I worked in a kitchen with two walk-in freezers and a walk-in fridge and I was OK with them, but we were a busy restaurant so the freezer's were opened at least every 20 mins so in the back of your mind was the thought that if someone accidentally shut you in and the 'tomato' (what we called the big red door release button) was frozen then you get yourself a 20 min break sitting on a box of frozen fish until someone needed something out the freezer and could release you. In the four years I was there I can't remember anyone getting locked in. Though the danger was certainly real, one of the freezers was along a very narrow corridor and when you opened the freezer the door would block the corridor, so anyone walking from the direction of behind the door would have to push the freezer shut in order to pass (definitely an architectural oversight), so you'd be in the freezer and hear the door slam, then you'd hit the angry tomato to open it again, then you'd berate the 17 year old server that had just attempted to murder you, and they would give a blank expression and walk off. Chefs get no love.

I work at a grocery store, and our big freezer had a door that jammed shut frequently. Once, I needed another coworker's help just to pull it open. While it never happened, I dread to think what would've happened if someone had the door closed on them. The door's been replaced since then.

I worked at McDonald's several years ago, and my "personal" job besides the normal stuff, was to unload the truck twice a week and stock, check expire dates, and clean the deposit and the refrigerated rooms. The freezer was my favorite. The cold was not that bad if you were moving, the only problem was your fingers, even with gloves you had to stop once in a while to warm them up. But I found being alone in there, oddly relaxing, like you're on another planet. A common prank was to tell the newbies to go and mop the freezing room (impossible task), and then hold the door shut. Obviously not locking it, just holding it with our hands until we had our share of laughs. Not very nice, I know. But those were different times.

Did you ever dismiss client companies because of their refusal to provide essential training to your temps?

@@tookitogoof course not

@@joedwc I was asking the OP, since they worked as a recruiter for a temp agency.

Pointing out that -30 is worse than -26 is like swimming with 12,000 piranhas instead of 10,000 piranhas. What difference would it really make?

This is especially horrible when you remember that many schools in the northern US cancel school if it hits -20°F because it can cause frostbite on exposed skin in 30 mins or less

Did his family got any money?

He was Killed by a manager at the company that was pissed of the machine wasn't running and turned it back on. I have heard and seen the pictures to many times and it's a detail that is left out.

​@@KlaunFuhrer-du7frNo, sadly I don't think so.

@@masterenos i cant believe, if you are poor or black you have no rights... i know money cant buy life, but at least could help his family have better future.

​@@KlaunFuhrer-du7fr The inherently exploitive nature of Temp agencies also plays a big part in it. Most people who find work through temp agencies aren't represented by a union, can be blacklisted from the temp agency if they report injuries, and other things that make temp agencies a horrible practice.

Especially the son in law!

@@Dulcimertunes Right?! Oh, I can’t imagine. Horrific. I would be trying to create a doppelgänger story or something. Oof.

Sorry... Their lives.

😔💔💔💔

True. Nasty Beef certainly has a horrible reputation, but for good reason.

Use to live there 10 years ago, my mom worked there for a bit and had her arm caught in some machinery that company will pay off doctors to keep it quiet and the supposed "union" thats there isnt worth shit

@@MustangonaNinja That's the thing about unions! If they only care about money, then they don't care☹️ Worked in a hospital and watched a great coworker get fired because she had a car accident. That wasn't even her fault! Single mom and everything. The union guy just stood there, didn't support her at all. I moved, and the union had the audacity to come there try to make it a closed facility. Who did they send? That same dude who did nothing. He saw me & you could see in his eyes he knew he did wrong. Was able to tell them how non supportive they were, and that facility was lost to them. Unions are great, but only when they care about their members.

Never send a woman to do a mans job.

Ah, hot work and enclosed/confined spaces. A perennial favorite for USCSB safety videos--these are sadly frequent factors in deadly incidents. Glad to hear those two got lucky enough to survive.

Plenty bad enough. I’m glad they’re ok

Where do you work at? What kind of occupation?

@@dannyhernandez265 fridge mechanic

That's what we got here. Big ol' presses that have a giant flywheel that is spun by an electric motor, and a pneumatic clutch, with hydraulics for the pistons that move up and down during the stroke.

There are also lock out plug boxes. Some machines, like the grinders at my old work (they ground up bad/scrap parts into pieces we'd use for other parts), don't have on/off switches. So, to lock them out, you unplug them, put the plug in a big red box (with a hole just big enough for the cord), then shut the box and padlock the box closed. I carried my plug box every day, which confused people until they realized I was the one crawling halfway into the parts grinders to clear the frequent jams.

There's all sorts of plastic boxes you can clip around plugs, gas valves etc. that have holes for a padlock. Then there's all sorts of clips that you can attach multiple locks to so everyone working on it has there own lock. We used to have so many things to lock on each machine that every bit had one lock each and then we put the keys in a lock box and our own padlock on the lock box. This also meant all the locks were stored in the lock box when not in use so you didn't have to go looking for a lock. There is no reason for a company not to provide this kit and make sure people use it.

If the design was complex people could make mistakes, keeping it simple keeps it safe

​@@wantspizzadaily1316 THIS!!! The best solutions to just about everything are so simple.

​@@wantspizzadaily1316beautifully put

each workplace safety rule is written in blood

This is exactly why, if you get stabbed or impaled, you DO NOT take the object out! They'll do it at the hospital

That's why I hate corporatism. You're just an expendable number and your life doesn't matter just for profits. Not to be mixed up with Capitalism which accounts for every aspect of supply and demand as very important. I hate how few actually understand this these days :/ Then, is it a wonder corporate elite care less and less about their workers and public safety?

.........and workers don't care about their surroundings.

These days company owners/management only care about lawsuits. What's really crazy is they don't grasp that they can be held criminally liable and end up locked up. Just keep those expenses down! 🤦

O say can you seeeeee

I would say keeping an "eye out for imminent fires" is the least distracting job in the world. Its not hard to notice a fire, assuming your eyes and nose work and that youre not a deaf mute. You should be fine bub

@@spencerkleiman5035 ​​⁠ I’ve worked in a factory similar to what OP is describing, and “keeping an eye out for eminent fires” is not as easy as you might be thinking. With all of the machinery working, you’re not going to hear a fire, unless it’s an all out explosion (which is what you’re trying to prevent by looking for eminent fires). You certainly won’t be able to smell a fire, as a burnt metal smell pervades everything, which comes from tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of welds being performed every hour. With all of the sparks that fly when these machines weld parts together it also makes it difficult to see when a small flame ignites. Looking for fires in a place like this really is a strain on one’s senses. Meanwhile, big heavy machinery is doing big heavy work on big heavy parts at a very fast pace all around you, and you being in the wrong place at the wrong time isn’t going to stop it from doing what it’s programmed to do. These places are dangerous, and OP is right to be wary of his surroundings while he is on the shop floor. It’s always someone with your “bro don’t worry about it, you’ll be fine” attitude that winds up injured or dead (or worse, injuring or killing someone else) in these types of factories.

​@@spencerkleiman5035 not unless something is smoldering for a while and suddenly bursts into flames! Also, keep in mind that in a situation like that you're already in sensory overload with the loud noises, vibrations, and moving parts everywhere. Easy to overlook a little fire.

Or at least a SIGN (like blue flags on RRs) telling others that there is someone doing maintenance and you cannot operate the system.

If it was a dangerous situation, we had 3 guys each put their locks on the equipment. Each lock is keyed separate. Always had a spotter and ready for emergency action. Never had a problem.

Why would the son in law turn it on without checking? Isn’t it turned on if a product is inside? If he didn’t know what was inside, why turn it on? I believe he knew who was in there. Either that or he’s a dumb sheet.

​Just dumbed down factory workers, people switch the brain off in those places,mind fk jobs...

Yes, especially with heavy machinery. I have seen some footage, that I don't wish anyone else to see.

And the best paid days at work provided you live

Sounded like maint. was locked out but not the guy cleaning the kiln

There are lock outs designed to attach to the switch on a breaker. I carry one in my tool bag at work.

I hope they get fired. If they can't make themselves care about the lives of others, they shouldn't have that job.

‘Accidentally’🤔

It's not fate. It's stupidity on the parts of machine designers and the factory.

@@briancunningham483 Son-In-Law was stupid too. I'm sure it was known it was being worked on. A man doesn't just wind up ordered into a deathtrap to clean it in a void. It was inactive before he turned it back on. Time to investigate and say "Anyone in here?" Likely caught up in some dumb distraction.

That wasn't fate. That accident would've been entirely preventable with just a sliver of foresight.

I was wondering if a murder investigation was any part of this, even just to rule it out. I wonder if the victim's daughter stayed married to the man responsible for her father's death? I don't know if I could do it.

And yet, places which dont have sufficient safety precautions are so much worse.

I haven't heard people at my workplace whine about safety rules. But I have heard confusion as to why some things are and can only imagine the why that got it there.

I hate the way third rate comedians make jokes about "Elfin safety" amid gales of laughter from an audience, most of whom haven't got a clue how anything is made.

Yeah, safety measures seem to irritate some people, but when something happens because the regulation has been 'tweaked', or ignored, then they realize why those are in place. Lessons are often learned through stupidity.

Over several decades I’ve heard plenty of owners and managers WHINE about safety regulations but never workers.

Solidarity

Glad I’m in a union. There have been a couple of times that I’ve flat out refused to do things that a manager wanted me to do simply because I thought it was to dangerous.

Why don't you make a video about it?

wow, crazy that it can arc that far

His name was Rick Collis. I knew him from a church we both went to many years before his death. I read about the accident in the newspaper. He an another guy were moving the ladder. The distance might not be correct, but they didn't touch the wire. The other guy lived, barely. He lost an arm and had many other serious and debilitating injuries. Those guys didn't realize the danger.@@sage5296

How on earth does that kind of moron get to be in a supervisory position?!? Nepotism?