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It would also be infinitely more accessable to infants and small children to burn your house down by playing with shiny buttons and screens. There is a reason why most stores have the buttons difficult to reach. Maybe an app to control the stove would be a better solution for people that must cook sitting.

@@Scudzzorz15 Have you ever used an inductive stove? They tend not to power the coils without a pan on top. Don't store metal objects on top of the stove and it won't even turn on. Not every household has toddlers either, product design shouldn't assume everyone does, but that SOME do. Different households, different needs, different products. Also, easy enough to implement a locking feature in countless different ways.

Dude just wants a good stove top for his wife on a wheelchair. Chill out ppl. I'm all for the idea m8. Hope your wheelchair business and the thing with casetify goes well.

​​​@@real_synthax1) Yes I have used an induction. 2) Yeah I know they don't work unless the appropriate cookware is in place, but a child twisting a knob to *10 effing KW* would start a kitchen fire in about 20 seconds if you were already cooking, or if you had something on the stove still from dinner for any small amount of time. 3) Design choices are almost always made to be more marketable. 40% of households have children while 1% of the population is in a wheelchair. I know MOST parents would just not take the risk. There ARE stoves that have knobs on the front. This stove is already niche enough that they should in no way intentionally hamstring their customer base. 4) Sure, a lock. You definitely sound like a person that doesn't have children. Safety features on something as dangerous as a 10 KW stove shouldn't be things that can be forgotten, they should be something that is inherently as safe as possible or simply inoperable by children. 5) I think the magnetic knobs could maybe be optionally moved to the front by the customer, which would be a nice solution, but the added cost per unit probably would make it prohibitive.

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You have a fantastic KZfaq - keep it up - my first time - actually saying this - in reference to a new and upcoming KZfaqr - awesome content

Yeah! I was not interested in that

Yeah thanks them for making you watch an ad

And in under 10 minutes and easy to understand

In the USA, we're stuck at 240V unless you live in a commercial zone area. Stoves are 240V @ 50A, but they never pull a full 50 even with all the burners & oven going. Using a battery/capacitor bank solves the issue of the low voltage. Even though it's a short duty cycle, I'm curious how they handle heat when the battery is cranking out 11kw. electric cars, for example, have coolant, pumps, & radiators.

@@Shadi2240v split on a 50a (40a continuous) is 9600w. It’s not that weak.

Hi your calculations are wrong, to calculate wattage in 3-phase power you need to do sqr3*230*16 and not 3*230*16, it then goes from 11kw to 6kw.

@@sylvester4207 He used the wrong equation but got to the right result. Its sqr3*400*16 which equals 11kw.

The 16 A flow between a phase and neutral (230V). If every of the 3 conductors has a load of 16A to neutral, there are 9,23 A between every pair of two phases (3*9,23A*400V = 11kW). I studied physics. There is a small difference between sqrt(3)*400V*16A and 3*230V*16A The reason is that the voltage between two phases is not exactly 400V in a 230V system. sqrt(3)*230= 398,4 or 400/sqrt(3)=230.9

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Wouldn't a capacitor do it as well?

@@jfjoubertquebecheating water takes a huge amount of energy, and capacitors can’t store that much energy in any reasonable amount of space.

@dapz do point me at such a project, network, details, build. Outstanding. I thought I was nuts. I am not Elec Engineer I just could see the connects from watching Solar Batt Bank contructs/vids. How did you do it?

@@jfjoubertquebec a liter takes 300+Wh - it’s not a small battery even for the minimum implementation!

I don't think I understand the idea. Do you have to have a bi directional meter to subtract the energy you send back into the grid?

Sam here - our inverter will pass the relevant UL standards for this exact thing.

​@@sam_damico What kind of batteries do you use and can you tell us about their safety & lifespan? Thank you.

@@sam_damico Could you please provide more details of your technical solution to this problem?

I've wondered about this ability to "Island" a house from the grid in power outage situations. Obviously generators have been around as backup for generations- so how have they adapted for safety when the power goes out, and why can't batteries function in essentially the same place as a generator with the same safety protocols?

you don’t want to see me try to dj…

Same. I thought it was a dj set before I read the title.

maybe in future firmware update lol

Ayo check out these sick beats _Put my hand on the stove, immediately scalding my hand as I let out an agonizing scream_

4 decks positioned like that would be crazy lol also gives boiler room a new meaning

US 50 amp circuit is common enough and that is 10kW. I charge my car at home with a 90 amp circuit.

@@rsilvers129 Wow, 90A takes a decent cross section of wire. I estimate it to be around 25mm^2 Welding cable category :)) Interesting information, thanks

@@janliberda9493 Imagine paying a "skilled worker" to install thirty to seventy metres of the "welding cable"

I've never seen anyone actually use either 3 phase or the 400V for the outlets though. We usually use 20A 230V outlet.

@@sylvester4207 It's usually a 7-10 amp single phase outlet.

This was exactly what I was thinking too lol. I am torn between this and the Thermador freedom. I like the flat and full surface cooking for easy cleaning and a variety of pan sizes, but I like the temperature control and physical knob of this stove. How good are the touch controls and temperature control on the Thermador? Maybe a compromise is to get the Thermador Freedom and Breville ControlFreak for precise tasks.

The thermador works great all around. But if you want to see the temp numerically the the control freak is the only real option. But remember it tells the temp of the pan not it’s contents.

@@jstones9872 Thanks for the response! Just to be clear you haven't had issues with the touch controls? I have heard issues with it being laggy and not working with wet hands.

I have no issues at all. TBF I had a thermador induction cooktop prior as well and that had no issues either.

Exactly what I was thinking. For the price of the Impulse, I'm not sure why someone would buy this over a Thermador Freedom. If you want backup, just connect an inline UPS with battery.

Gas cooks the best bro. Maybe that’s why cooks use it? 😂

I have yet to see an electric stove match the wok hei of a gas stove

You couldn’t pay me to get rid of my fireplace either though.

@@williamh.gatesiii8183 In the end it's just heated metal, so there's no difference anyway

@@gamesnic there is difference because of the way you cook. glass tops are just fragile.

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@@sam_damico wow , I can't believe I'm getting a reply from the CEO on YT faster than by email 😇 Hope you find it & respond. Meanwhile all the best!

@@sam_damico wow I can't believe I'm getting a reply from the CEO on YT faster then by e.... 😇 Hope you see it & respond. Meanwhile all the best! You guys are amazing

@@sam_damico wow the man himself! You guys are amazing 😇

Just make it touchscreen like my Electrolux induction range. I would never go back to knobs no matter how easy to clean they are.

All grid workers have a standard safety protocol which includes testing, followed by bonding to ground. They walk on to every job site, thinking that it is electrified and have to prove to themselves that it is not.

​@@Mark_The_Mayven Local US electrical codes require this separation and a shutoff to grid feed when the power goes down just for this very reason. So unless you are 100% off grid, this safety measure isn't going away.

this one is counterintuitive -- there are grid-tie only solar systems that _do not_ have this, because if the inverter shuts off on loss of grid that also is OK. If you want to be able to back up your entire house you 100% have to have this.

Thanks man :)

Here in Germany this is standardized

True, but I feel that the display contributes to the image of a very premium product. The oven is very likely the first version as a proof of concept to present to the average consumer that this is in fact a high end product, thus creating a desire to own this product. Very more likely down the line, this company or companies similar/adopting this kind of mentality, product line or technology, will eventually make more low end products for the average consumer. Which... won't have the display, but it's a good preview of what the future could hold. 👍 Which I think is very cool.

@@TristanKazumiK While my experience with the ultra-premium is limited (I have some though), the display is what someone without experience with Really premium products, thinks a premium product should have. It's just a false perception... Really premium items do their job/function as near perfect as is possible First, and Look elegant second. The looks part, while subjective, tends towards simple being More elegant and premium than complex. A digital display will look dated at some point. It *will* be the Harvest Gold of an era, gaudy because it was so over-used. It's a failing of the most simple of concepts, just because you can, doesn't mean you should. While this product looks appealing to me, and the function really grabs my attention (minus back-feeding the grid), the display is a turn-off. Just guessing at the price premium these products will demand, there's simply no way I'd pay to have something that was visually over-done ~ you have to interact with this thing, looking at it, EVERY time you use it. Don't make it garish to the eye.

no the display is uesfull to show information at a glance

I agree. Nothing wrong with offering both versions though. I will take high quality buttons and knobs over a graphical display for most devices. Look at the huge mechanical keyboard market for proof. Some people have never turned a high quality volume knob or pushed an all metal button for a horn. The best stuff is pretty rare cause most people cheap out on the quality of buttons and knobs. There's a dimmer knob a boat product place sells that feels so smooth, better than any dimmer knob I've interacted with before, but it's like $30-40 when others cost less than $10 so not many people get to experience high quality knobs.

Yeah you wanna save a couple bucks leaving the screen out of the $10,000 stove.

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>buy smart stove for some reason >works alright, not worth the $7,999 price tag >company goes bankrupt, shuts down servers >stove wont turn on anymore

'Stove is updating...' right as you want to cook dinner!

"Pay us $10,000 in crypto and we'll unlock your stove for the next 24 hours"

@@Seris_ Hewlett Packard charges you by the kilowatt.

That’s why they don’t talk much about it, the reality is that induction is really damn good. He lumps it together with gas and radiant electric because I think they know that 240V induction is their biggest competition because it’s really damn good already

Ok you're the 3rd person that's said it haha, back it goes to S³!

@@s3_build 👍

Ha, nice community involvement!

S³ is a little hard to write on most keyboards after all.

To be fair, I had a hard time finding the channel on a separate device to subscribe, because searching “S3” on KZfaq pulls up a *lot* of AWS content.

Some things I want to ask: 1) Do you have an app to change some settings, as well as check if the stove is on or not? 2) Can you change the language and measurements? 3) Are you considering larger options for the stoves? Including 6 plates 4: Can you make it flush with the counter?

Battery is for reserve power in case of a power outage I think. Not sure about Italy, but USA gets 240 volt 40amp.

@@Dirty_Bear22 I live in France and I don't think I've noticed any power outage in my 28 years of my life

Until the batteries burst into flame.

Scott, I agree with that depending on battery chemistry. I wouldn’t use Li-Ion or LiPo. But LiFePO are considerably safer and don’t explode like Li-Ion. This particular technology is a ways off and battery chemistry and design will continue to improve to provide safer options.

​@@johnprouty6583I did a cursory search of LiFePO, and unfortunately the tradeoff for using LiFePO is capacity. Even at a theoretical maximum, doesn't come close to the highest capacity Li-ion. That doesn't mean it's not better for this application, if the materials are cheaper, and size not an issue, then getting a larger battery for the same capacity would be better as it is a safer technology. It also runs at a lower nominal voltage, so that could also lead to other issues with power delivery. I'm not a power engineer though, so I don't know much about the subject matter.

​@johnprouty6583 I am curious about the topic you bring up. I think it can be reasonably agreed upon that Li ion or LiPo would make absolutely no sense in this kind of implementation. LiFePo is an interesting case that is assumedly safer than those options. But is it really? The variable that concerns me is temperature regulation in end-use implementation in this context. LiFePo is pretty amazing, but still essentially is a band aid solution to the fundamental problem that batteries are unsafe and essentially disposable.

@@mynameissang I think “safer” is kind of the operative term here. If they are breached mechanically they don’t explode (may be a bit of an exaggeration) like Li-ion. But if you draw over their rated discharge rate you’ll certainly have problems. While the report touted the 45 second boil I don’t see that as a particularly practical as it doesn’t save energy, same energy is required to heat a certain quantity of water to a certain temperature (less time related losses) the infrastructure required to handle the current required would bump up the costs a fair bit - larger conductors, beefer electronics, etc. As far as inherent safety, anytime you are moving energy or storing energy - gas, batteries, mains power, etc. - there will always be some safety issue you’ll need to consider. Regardless, I still like the idea of networked islands of energy storage.

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No Idea about the power limits of the unit, it’s likely designed around 12kw max. Design would likely have to be altered due to all that extra heat.

This requirement (to shut down if loss of grid is detected) is captured by relevant compliance organizations and is part of our inverter spec

@@sam_damico that is awesome, I look forward to the insane stove!

Weeeell... at 6k, idk if I'd call this tech "a lot cheaper"

@@unamor most of the cost is the 3KW battery pack in the stovetop. 3KW of battery backup runs anywhere from $2k to $5k alone, not to mention the really cool induction stove that is definitely a luxury quality stovetop. I don't think I could justify buying one, I am just saying that the price makes sense for what it is.

@@D3moknight …and I am not contesting the price’s fairness, but this is definitely NOT an economical option as is. Thanks for the breakdown of cost, though. Cheers

sounds like you work for the electric company, cause theyre the only ones who will profit on people being fully dependant on the electric gris. natural gas furnaces are far more efficient than a heat pump. you must have never lived where its cold....

@@fjayrockst4411 Nuclear is where it's at.