Agree it’s become the rich guy’s game now. I still enjoy looking at these and remembering you could buy most of them for less than $1000 each. I also made 1.50/hr too! 😂😂😂

Yes and drove the price of them to the moon !

You said it for me bunch of Rich dicks. Took all the fun out of it for Millions of people. Now everybody thinks their car is worth $1000000 and nobody can afford to buy one. Except the rich dicks.

I am not disagreeing with you but what, in your opinion, did they do to ruin the hobby?

I'm glad Mecum and Barrett are around so I'm able to see all these great muscle cars up close

Fourtune today boss 429 mark 1 202 miles an hour it was a game 600. Hr. Power 6 built thats the rules. Broke 200.miles an hour. 1970. Hmmm. ???? Guinness book of world records. . Straight line runner .6 cars the rule for production so thumbs down and shut tag hell up i a pro i race with pro.s talk cheap and I no mechanic. L.o.l. and nothing could cornors and and 50000 today easy 6 gears corvette. Used . Ahh 2005. The guy who owns one superchipped . L.O.L. got YAH 50000 amex. Children old garbage . On the roof dead. L.O.L

great story

@@MuscleCarMadnessGarage well yeah man energy drink coffee in the middle of night come too strong .I did something. L.O.L simular in 75 yeah 18 years old paid for that car brand new off the lot. And I was stupid . I had it all. L.O.L don't. Love it too. 20 years old 77 . Too many too much pain married money .born too good looking the classic battle ford vrs chev vrs pontiac mopar . But . L.O.L. i never owned them sm town grew up in my sixties . L.O.L. CARS GIRLS ROCK MUSCLE CARS TUNES . BLEW THE TOWN APART . AHH EVERYTHING LEGAL POINT OF ORDER NEW BETTER ELECTRIC CAR USLESS AND AUTOMATED SELF ALL THAT HOOOOY IT COULDNT WORK IN WINNIPEG IN THE WINTER. L.O.L. 40 MPG NECESSARY HWY.

@@MuscleCarMadnessGarage that would be football hockey ball etc 3 sports jets in edmonton playoff hoc key too. L.O.L

Stop lying

I bet he ate lunch at quatman cafe....best burgers in the city!

Awsome!

I was lucky enough to own a 1969 Rally Sport Z28 Camaro...............And a 1981 Z28...........

I am from Southwestern Ohio and grew up there. I went to Cincinnati Technical College, which I studied automotive service management. In 1987 we had a class trip to the Norwood plant about a year before they closed the plant. Sadly, I hate to say it, but the employees at the time had themselves partly to blame for the closing of the plant. They had up to 40 percent absenteeism on a daily basis and there was a lot of drug dealing and drug abuse in the plant. When we took a tour of the factory I could plainly see the poor quality control there that was going on. I had several people over the years tell me if you wanted a decently built Camaro or Firebird that you had to get one that was built at the Van Nuys factory. That's exactly why that plant wasn't shut down for at least a year or two later and production was transferred to Ontario Canada. It was truly sad because it about ruined the economy of Norwood Ohio after it was shut down.

@@robertmarx1954 Van Nuys plant had a lot of the same problems

Me too. 1967 Camero 327 with 4 barrel, I think 3.7 (about) gear. Had it three years. Blew off GTO's , Road Runners, etc. Loved that car.

I think later that year they went to 350 c.i. Not much difference. Only think that ever got me was a Corvette. (With a girl driving it!! - this was back in 1967-1968 so unusual).

@@lonnienelson6154 First weekend I had it a buddy pulled beside me at a redlight (396/375 Nova). Got him by a fender. I was never outrun by anything in it's class. The 4:10 gears + very strong engine. I would give a pretty penny to have that car back like it was when I bought it

A lot of us have lists of vehicles we wish we still had. We would all need warehouses!

had a friend who had a '67 camaro , small hubcap car, your engine, no power anything, refrigerator white, column shift powerglide, and a bench seat. always liked cars cars like yours and his especially 1st gen stuff. old guy.

The good old days right. I to had a lot of fun back in the day. Lol

My favorite is still the 2nd generation 70-73 and the 74 a little, still had the flat rear windshield. Had a 72 factory 350, A/C power disk brakes. First car. Loved it.

my dad bought a 68 camaro in december of 68 and I bought it from my dad in the summer of 84...had it till december of 2020...327 ...3 speed on the tree ...manual steering and manual brakes...loved driving that car...it was also my high school car in the early and mid 70s...I built a 350 and put a 4 speed in it after I got it...

I had the same car in high school checkered board interior power glide on the column cool car but nothing special

Irony had nothing to do with it!

Money that's what its about.

Mecum stole it and then bought car and then made statements saying that they managed to get the original paper’s back. Mecum auctions is a joke. Nice vehicles but the way he runs auctions is sad.

@@timsacco6g694 haha irony like what steel is made of

Criminal enterprise!!!

Sorry to disagree but it was ordered through the COPO process and was built as a Z on the assembly line. That makes it as much a production car any COPO (not just the Camaros). The special options that were available with Zs but had to be installed by the customer (the cross ram, headers etc) were installed in the engineering center. Unlike the BOSS 429 it was not sent out to another company to be built.

No money... no whining

These guys are WRONG!..It's NOT a production Camaro..it was a ONE of a kind produced for CEO Pete..

Another chevrolet, marketing built them.

@@stevedeleon8775 how is it the one GM thought to auction out of the museum before: this one is "no hidden headlights" front (non-RS: so SS) AND non-RS rear ('68 red/white signals w/o separate rectangular reverse lights down low). some magazine ad for future auction said: convertible '68 Z28 RS/SS intended for executive's daughter & beyond COPO factory ..

*yeah just another perk

The general public couldn't buy a 1965 Chevelle SS 396 either. They were all given to celebrities.

@@maddpeanut6313 During the summer of '78 I stumbled across one of these 65 Ss396 Malibu,for sale. It was in MINT condition showroom clean under the hood! I knew it was unusual, being 16 years old, no internet, I thought it was a Canadian model that someone had brought down. Here's wherever it really hurts, asking price? $1500.00 I hate telling this story!

The point is: It went down the regular assembly line.

This car was a bribe for Trans Am funding. It was not a production car that could be bought by the public, but it was a successful bribe. Awesome video, however, and almost lost in time.....

That would be Mecum himself. Funny how he ended up getting the paperwork when it was first brought to auction and it suddenly turned up later after he bought the car.

Doesn't matter you could get the RS package and the 302 engine option back then

@@jonathanlawson4667 Not in a vert

@@jonathanlawson4667 My modern 6th generation Camaro is a Camaro RS, but has the 6.2L v8 and 10 speed auto equipped from factory. I'd like to assume few were made as a throwback to this since they're discontinuing the camaro come 2023

The guy said it had a rear window defogger. it has a plastic back window.

@@bobbysadler5438 The defogger likely only a fan mounted in the back deck in those days.

Little River near Academy in Texas?

Damn he must have been running on small block gasser level and turning 10,000 plus rpm🤷 or else he was doing something wrong

Mine only came, 302,4speed.no electric nothin. No power anything, no radio, heater kinda.

Sounds like it? I would say that's exactly what happened.

I've seen them do even worse

​@@r.w.b.7683 Like what?

So true!

Yes

Would it be alright if they "skim" from dishonest people?

Mecum, Barrett Jackson and the others have turned thd old car hobby into a circus exclusively for the rich

No.

Personally I agree. Used to the 69 really appealed to me (especially the SS RS)and the 70 pissed me off (when GM did that). Afterwards, I relented and came to favor it (almost as much as the 68). But one faithful day we were coming back from Houston of IH-45 and followed a 72 Z for some 60 miles (doing 70+) with it dawning paper dealer plates and I was hooked. Being only 14 at the time, I never forgot it. Yeah...it took me a few years to forgive Chevrolet, but never regretted it since.

The 1969 Camaro is the best looki g Camaro of all time.

The 1969 Camaro is the best looking Camaro of all time.

I had a 1979 sky blue Camaro with a 305 was great.

The 69 Camaro was the best looking Camaro .. nothing beats the Hugger body

🤮

@@davidjenson8124 do you need medical attention?

even though they buy the cars for investment at least it preserves the cars for the future, i too would like to be able to afford some of the rare cars selling for a small fortune, but at my age and my back ground i owned and drove many of these cars worth a fortune today. but as things were these were our transportation and not something the average person could park and save.

@@jimmieroan9881 Just in the early 90's I bought a 1972 challenger 340 for 800 Canadian dollars, a 1971 demon 340 for 1500 and I also bought a non functional 1973 455 4 speed trans-am for 2k. It was the clutch and replaced it myself. Today at 50, I can only dream about buying these cars. Speculators definitely ruined the possibility of normal people owning these cars.

@@xminusone1 I'm with you, they used to be dirt cheap. A high school kids hero car reaches max value when he is between 45 and 55. The nature of life allows the value to decline after that. Model A's, tri 5 Chevys, 60s muscle cars in general have greatly declined in value with things like model A or roadsters declining the most due to age of the fans. There's something of a hard deck they don't really fall through. Even what they call square body 73-87 Chevy trucks had the bottom drop out. The key is to live forever. Be around long enough to see the bottom drop out ha ha.

Still can't find the buildsheet for my vega stinger THANKS A LOT DANA

He just had to look in his pockets to find it.

Yes I believe you are right. Looked really suspicious.

Yes if he emptied his pockets I am sure that the paperwork would appear. There are a lot of cutthroats in the classic car business and auctions, both buyers and sellers. My friend had a 68 Camero chevy orange with black stripes in highschool in the 80s it was beautiful and only cost 3000 dollars at the time. But everyone has just pushed the prices up to unreasonably high prices. But people want them so they have the value.

im also old but nothing will stop me from enjoying these cars except todays prices people have beat up cars and for some crazy reason think they are worth 20k miss the old days when early 80s i could buy a pristine 70 Boss 302 for 3600 long gone by now but greatly missed Detroit built some awesome cars for the masses but lately because of these clowns its become a hobby for the rich

Convertibles have more use than negative opinions. nobody wants negative opinions

I don't.

@@rustytime I had somebody smash the window in my van to snag a $100 stereo and destroy my console. It wasn't a convertible. Drop tops rule.

I had a 66 GTO rag top. When I parked it downtown my friends were always amazed that I never locked the doors. I told them that nothing inside was worth the price of a new top.

So did I.

I kinda thought it looked like a dark blue green but your probly right my dad always called grey green he said colored blindness ran in our family but yes what a great car it’s so great he is gonna put them out here we’re we can see them feel like a kid in a candy store and bottomless pockets wow !

When the car isnt / wasn’t supposed to be built , you can make it ANY color you want.

@Debbie ohmyorgan WRONG. It was a production car pulled off the line and fitted with Z/28 components by the COPO division.

@@sergeantmasson3669 YOU ARE WRONG. COPO is not a division, it's an ordering mechanism for configurations (including paint jobs) not available under the RPO system. The car was built as a Z on the assembly line. They said the "special Trans Am parts" (cross ram, headers etc) were added by engineering. Those parts were available to any Z buyer but NEVER installed by the factory rather by the dealer or customer. COPO = Central Office PRODUCTION Order

What does the VIN say? If it coded as a Z/28 then it has to be one. 🇨🇦🇺🇸

@Andy Danko My dad told me and later showed me how Edgar Winters Frankenstein on a Quadraphonic or surround sound stereo system was and still is an epic musical experience. The way the drum solo/drum rolls encircle you by switching to each speaker around you is amazing.

I had quadphonic stereo in my 68 Impala SS, 327 4bbl, turbo 350 trans with posi. 8 track player worked right upto 1980... sound was good...

Awesome thank you!

COPO was not a production division. It was a paperwork mill that was used to specify configurations not available through the RPO process and included everything from taxis to ZL1s. The car was built as a Z on the assembly line. Special optional parts available with any Z but customer or dealer installed (cross ram, headers and such) were installed by Chevrolet engineering because there was no dealer.

COPO: Central Office PRODUCTION Order If it was a COPO car, ordered through the COPO program, with COPO paperwork, then technically it would be a production car. If Estes didn't go through the official order program with official paperwork, then no, it's not production. The difference is whether or not anyone else could order a car this way, regardless of whether or not anyone else did or not.

Agreed

I heard a story that the cross rams for the Z/28’s arrived at the dealer in a box, that was sitting in the trunk. 🇨🇦🇺🇸

Headers too I believe

I did think to myself, watch as the drewler on the scissor lift cleans the door off the drivers side!

I was an electrician and used a scissors lift like that often.I almost shit looking at his face. lol!

This is a true story but I met the guy who built a scissor lift for line man then they went to hydraulics years later he didn’t patent it . The JBLs got better with batteries and more stable the line trucks didn’t have 4 wheel drive . There everywhere now .

My buddy had a'69 Z/28.He blew the 302 running from the cops and put a 427/425hp Corvette engine in it. It was a beast.It also was dark green with white stripes.

Chrysler built several Hemi powered wagons.

Thanks... interestingly we always heard about some of these::: though had memory of seeing a 62 /409, 63 / 427 Ford Station Wagon, &;Four Speed /428 RanchmWagon 1968, : & NOT TO MENTION some “ strange “ GM BUILDS FROM 1950-60s....

You could get Hemi Challenger and Cuda convertibles. They had way more torque than a Z28. Chevy must have had crummy frames.

I don't have one but I do totally agree!!!

Those rotted out and ended up in the junkyard in less than 5 years. You might find one in Arizona or something.

Beg borrow or steal, that car is worth it. With the original 409. Sweet car

They didn't make a 61 Impale with a 409/425hp until 1962. My brother bought a new 61 Impale ss convertible. 409/385hp, 4 speed. Single 4bbl. He had the dealer install the 3 duces intake and carbs from a new 348. Still couldn't outrun his best friends 61 Ford - 390/401

Closer to 4 million today. He was selling it for 1.5 million in 2007.

Far cry from the ulitmate 4.6 million 1970 Hemi cuda covert

@@glennmccormick5572 car hobby is crazy today. i have not gotten over the mcqueen mustang yet. old now and grew up with these old muscle cars, loved them and saw what they cost, just can't see the money now but that's just me. no need to reply to my gibberish. old guy.

Only if it was a MOPAR could the price get near that.

@@williammorgan8786 Your gibberish makes alot of sense.

Great honor sir! One rare knowable car guy...RIP Al

He is missed in the car culture here in Motown. RIP

ITS A NICE CAR

But you just stated why it wasn't as rare as this car, it wasnt a production car. This 68 Z/28 vert was!

@@cali2468 It's actually rarer. Almost all prototypes of this era were destroyed as they could never be titled.

There were no 327's in 72 unless the motor was changed. 69 was the last year of the 327. 1970 started the 350 standard.

@@joca6282 thank you for the correction. I thought it was smaller than mine. No, the motor was not changed out I don't believe. I'm getting old and forgetful these days. Sorry for the mistake. They were beautiful cars...

@@biblebeliever1611 No problem. They're still small blocks! Lol.

Love 70 Chevelle SS-LS6!

The *woody Corvette* was only available on the 1956 model, with no orders, so they dropped that option. On the other hand, the *rumble seat* was the most popular option on 1957 with 75% of all 57 Vette's having a rumble seat. The *first split back window* Vette (1963) included the *split ass-cheek seats* on all orders with the Rochester FI 360hp engine to keep your ass planted to the seat as you blasted off at every stop light. Your ass cheeks would *pucker up* as you smashed the accelerator down to the ground. They only came in black leather so you could wipe the sh!t off easily 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

No way that is true

@@paulmahon1613 Oh! I definitely agree! 1.) My 91 year old mother retold this story that another widow of extreme age at the nursing home told her about her late husband's "Special Car" that he would not allow anyone else to touch or drive. Evidently he was quite the narcissist and abusive toward the entire family. Part of the story is that when the husband, father died, the wife and kids could not wait to get rid of dad's "Pride and Joy" and disposed of it quickly, as it was associated with too many bad memories for any of them to keep it. 2.) I don't care how you word the Google search, you're not going to find a Corvette of ANY vintage with "woody" trim anywhere. They just don't exist. I'll admit that a '56 or '57 might look striking with its 'parabola' in woody trim in place of the usual two-tone. But I can't even imagine anyone back then ordering one that way: it never made any sense and I see no record of Chevrolet ever offering that option on a 'Vette of any vintage. 3.) Understand that the information was relayed thru 2 women whose interest in things automotive is near zero, the kind of person who describes a car by telling you what color it is because they all look alike in their eyes. If the woody existed, I doubt it was a Corvette.

@@paulmahon1613 I forgot to mention that on the '67 427hp, once you hit 4G's super glue who ooze out of the split ass-cheek seats, guaranteeing your ass would stay where it was supposed to. It was the NEW "space-age" seat". Chevrolet discontinued that option (wasn't available in '68) due to personal injuries 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's my understanding that there are only two original 69.5s' (Trans Am) left in the world today...One's somewhere in Japan, Was once owned by late night host Conan O'Brian. Status of second is unknown [] Do you know this to be true or no???....

@@imanonattorneyspokesperson5568 I think there are a few 69.5 T/A running around but with the 303 engine? All I recall was seeing the 69.5 T/A with the 303 in the Old Car Auto Trader back in the early 1980s. I thought the 303 was a misprint because no information about the Pontiac 303 was even known back in the mid 1980s. The guy down East wanted $5000 for the 69.5 T/A back then but we had no way of getting the car back to Saskatchewan even if we did buy the car. I do remember the car being white with two blue strips running down the hood and the larger hood scoops being towards the font nose of the 69.5 T/A. I also did recall seeing a 69 COPO 427 Nova back then for sale in Saskatoon as well. The guy wanted $5000 for the car but we didn't even know what COPO even meant back then. Back in the early 1980s muscle cars were easy to obtain for a few thousand Canadian dollars but things went crazy when Barrette Jackson started to air and Hot Rod restoration TV shows began to air. Yes, the 69.5 T/A I saw in the Old Car Auto Trader did exist and I asked my other brother if he remembered seeing the same car for sale in Ontario (?) and he said he confirmed what I had seen back then as well. At least the article in Hot Rod magazine confirmed what I thought and the 69.5 T/A did exist and a prototype 69.5 T/A with a 303 engine was tested somewhere in Eastern Canada by Hot Rod Magazine. I should have clipped out the article but that was back in the mid 1990s that I read the article on the 69.5 303 T/A prototype road test. From what I do recall is that the 303 engine made most of its power from 6000 rpm to 9000 rpm so the car itself wasn't a quarter mile car but rather made to compete with the BOSS 302 and 302 Z28s on the track which makes sense. Even in the local Saskatchewan Auto Trader parts section, I recall seeing stuff like fiberglass 427 thunderbolt hoods and cross ram 302 Z28 intakes for sale. One of the local welders even managed to pick up a 425 HP 396 (SGI Salvage > Saskatchewan Government Insurance who got all the wrecked cars after an accident) out of a early corvette and used the engine in his welding truck.

Thanks for watching!

Mid-12's in a basically stock 74 Camaro,and a 4 speed to boot?Tell us more about this mythic vehicle.🤣🤣🤣

@@davidh6818 well let's see, I got it at Classic Chevrolet in Houston Texas late '75 from same lot I bought my first Camaro) and I was cruising along memorial drive one night and a group of people pulled up next to me honking and waving. The guy said, I know the guy that used to own that car. His dad's a doctor and they rebuilt that whole motor but it's not near as fast as it used to be... so there's another quick little story for you. What else you want to hear? Hey, how bout some race stories... Had a guy pull up to me as we're cruising down the 'main drag' I guess you would call it, you want a real race? ok, but not for money. .. anyway, so he had me follow him to his house to get his '73 Mach 1 out of the garage and of course, it was all cammed out and I thought, well, that's what it's going to take... so we went to they're racing place and ended up, I beat him by a good Car length 👉🏼 Surprise! That was the kind of car it was. A true jaw dropper and mythical? No...but very, very memorable. I always wondered if maybe they had it blueprinted cos it took an 11 second (pull the wheels up car to beat it)... Except for that big Chrysler that day cruising down a regular street, lite to lite and he pulled away from me so that sleeper was really cool and fast! Hey, I need to tell you about the rat race against that trans am that nite... 😂

Regular Camaro with unique mix of options...

How about a 63 mercury 427 with 2 4 barr

Thanks for watching!

I'm adding an experimental Shelby GT500 in a couple of days.

Absolutely you're right about that I had a super duty 455 fall apart in an SJ Grand Prix