JOCAT??

facts

Hold up, is this one of those cases where we end up rooting for the villain because they're right?

I have a love-hate relationship with D&D. There are several great settings to play in but no matter the edition the ruleset sucks.

I think I require elaboration, because I barely even started playing DnD, so I don't even know what 4th edition is.

They scale based on rarity lol

When you start rating games based not on how good they are, but how bad they are NOT, you know your standards have reduced.

and the subtitles are even too fast to read sometimes, so still a way to go

The game have fallen, so the guy has to keep up or else won't review much...

It's either you do that or quit gaming because that is where we are today folks.

"evil god lady gonna wake up, that's bad also zombies will happen"

@@MrLego3160 I'm using that for my game's intro.

And then John was aliens.

why these people tend find more work later if you going be VO at lease do your job, even if the script is total none sense, anime dubbing in a nutshell lol

you summed up most korean mmo intros

Yep

The reason that happens is because bless has a huge level curve in the 3rd or 4th area and you need a hundred times more xp to level up after this.

@@Orinslayer So that lvl 43 player was literally running that dungeon over and over, just trying to grind to get to the end game?... I have to give it to Koreans, they have the ability to soldier thru the most MEH content imaginable.

@@DustinBarlow8P My god yes. I can't believe the crap Koreans are willing to grind through. Lost Ark was terrible.

@@DustinBarlow8P I find that Asian players, and developers, don't really understand the point of an MMO; that dungeon was pretty much a testament to that since none of them spoke to one another, none waited for the other players and there were no tactics. They treat MMO's like dungeon crawlers, or a MOBA, like Diablo or League of Legends. The game could fix this by level-locking, or level-balancing, the dungeons.

I like the part where they actually leave him an enemy to hit and he's so down he simply misses it twice... just an experience of "this is not a party for me". Worst experience in any MP game.

They managed to do that themselves. I don't think they have to worry about some youtuber doing it.

Why don't they just *gasp* MAKE THE GAME GOOD?

except for one!

I actually realized mid-video that it's most likely limited to something like 5 Korean characters and no one ever thought that it may not be enough in a latin alphabet

Honestly can relate. I haven't touched an MMO in 10 years lol

Same LOL. My biggest adventure into the MMO world was Path of Titans.

@@ImuraiI respect it, fun game. Need that Hatz already though 😩

I don't even play games but I watch a ton of videos on them!

I'm confused as to why gas coming out of the butt means laughing but I guess every culture has its quirks.

With a japanese username? Hmn.

I fail to see how 2 can resemble a butt and what's funny about farting xD

@@Jinny-Wa Imagine the top curve to the be the butt and the angle and straight line at the bottom to be legs, it's an kneeling stick figure butt.

But the 3 is clearly the butt.

He probably spent half his time on the script coming up with dozens of alternate names for the game, only using the ones he liked the most.

Josh was channeling his inner Yahtzee Croshaw in this one.

Josh would make a great JRPG title-maker. Or Fighting Game edition namer for that matter. (please explain to me what "Under Night In-birth Exe:Late" or "Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code" mean)

Bro that shit had me rolling🤣🤣🤣

Anyone dumb like me and didn't realize he was doing this until like the 5th time?

With random music and a horse being louder as well?

🤣

lmfao

@@no_idea8012 The music is that song that's always in your head when you're bored and trying to disassociate, the horse is that noise that snaps you back to reality.

well in your rank of 20 dudes, which isnt quite an army or a formation is it - i always found it silly to have the bad ass general leader dude hold a speech to like two dozens of identical soldiers - and yes i realize it is probably a limitation of the game, but maybe you shouldnt integrate those scenes then or find a way around it, they are not an army, they are barely a gang of sword swingers with identical outfits

You forgot 16:05 Bless Unlimited Power

@@yomi4853 thanks brother

thank you, kind person!

Go and unleash your bless lmfaoooo

Bless you

Woah wontolla? Didnt expect to see you here. I like ur music man

@@NotSnak Oh hey! Glad to hear that!

Then you realize that wolves was the tutorial and josh failed...

"But it works in Fortnite!" -Executives

To add to that, when he is exploring the lairs the chef boss is named Ramzy.

i wish ArenaNet understood this.

Ya agree, I got nothing wrong with cosmetic items, but when you start adding bikinis, swim shorts, maid outfits, school uniforms, clown outfits well it just gets a bit stupid especially when all the horny fucks start running around with female characters in bikinis and over half the game's pop is just female characters wearing bikinis. I still remember Bless Online when everyone only used 1 combat pet out of the literal thousands of options the succubus, I'd be at the market selling items and all I'd hear is the succubus pets of 100+ people sexually moaning 24/7 like I was in some sex dungeon really ruins the immersion of the game.

Lost ark is a prime example of this. PvP was such an eyesore after the furry costumes were introduced.

Almost as many as he has different coffee mugs.

It triggered me. But only because I played 4th edition. I played two sessions of it and that's all it took.

@@TheEDFLegacy As someone who never played D&D 4th edition, what was so terrible about it?

@@youtube-kit9450 I think it's mostly because Wizards of the Coast saw how popular MMOs were, so decided to shove MMORPG-flavored changes into D&D... sideways.

INTERRUPT! FREE ACTION! Several hours later... lol. Still, it was fun how crazy the power creep could get. Thankfully we mostly did RP and navigation encounters, leaving combat to the more epic build-ups.

@@youtube-kit9450 TL:DR will be at the bottom 4e is the combat edition. Fun if you like fighting, not so much if you want to roleplay too. It had the standard actions (Major, Minor, Movement, Free, etc) that you could do each turn, but you could do a ton more with those actions naturally as every class. On top of that classes had even more designed roles in combat then other editions, it's where terms like Striker, Controller, Defender, and Leader popped up with D&D. Classes had a role and it was harder to escape it. It also added Powers to each class that made them Psuedo-Spell Casters, such as: At-Wills (Minor powers with weaker boons that you can cast every round as long as you have the action (Cantrips)), Encounter Powers (Middling powers that are relatively strong but you can only do once per encounter (Spells that can only be used once per fight instead of relying on spell slots), and Daily Powers (Extremely strong powers with either great damage or boons, but can only be used once per day (Most traditionally like spending a spell slot, but only for that specific spell)). Each class usually had 3 At-Wills, 2 Encounters, and 1 Daily at low levels and gained more as they got higher in level. On top of that it was easier to get a lot of health in 4e, as well as to heal without a healer (Dwarves had a feat that let them use their health dice to heal when taking the dodge action for example.) With all of this Combat was a lot more dynamic and flashy, and honestly kinda fun when handled well, but it would often grind to a slow halt because enemies had to be strong enough to withstand it and give back about as much. So a lot of fights turned into slapping matches of who could withstand the other's powers/out last their resources while having inflated hp pools/defenses. Then the final nail in the coffin was that, as the Combat Edition, RP took a massive back seat as far as core rules went. Yeah, you could do RP stuff, and some classes had RP buffs like Paladins which had some powers that boosted diplomacy a lot, but for the most part everything revolved around combat and the new At-Wills/Encounters/Dailies. So if you liked combat you were set, but if you wanted a bit more RP meat in that Battle Soup (Like most people did) you were a bit more out of luck without Homeruling and heavy DM effort. TL:DR 4E was all about combat, Classes were locked even harder into specific roles (Striker, Controller, Defender, Leader), it introduced a lot of mechanics like At-Will Powers (Weak), Encounter Powers (Middling), and Daily Powers (Extremely Strong), and enemies were often buffed to handle said powers leading to inflated fight times. Mix that in with how little 4e really supported RP or outside combat situations and you have people who over all dislike it for those reasons.

Actually, unironically yes. Even though I don't believe that wasn't intentional, as the Mike Sully face swap is the most boomer of memes these days, I'd rather read a legal or technical document by someone who feels like a person. This is the entire reason XIV's letters from the producer work so well, is the staff feels like they're genuinely people who enjoy games, and are excited to talk about their game.

when Josh opened the probabilities table I was wondering if he is gonna adress the wazowski in the room

@@TheDapperDragon This, absolutely this. I hate when corporate stuff makes things overly formal, it just creates this wall between the business and the customer.

@Dee I will always respect devs who show a more human side rather than just being 100% business all the time. Some of my favourite devs are ones who aren't super serious all the time and actually interact with their community often.

I understand where you guys are coming from - it's nice to get something *from a human* - but on the other hand, the "Hello , it's been a long time" heavily faked personal letters really turn me off. I'm not sure where Monsters Inc avatar falls on that line for me, but it's not that great. Maybe a personalized in-game character model, instead?

I've just resigned myself to this with PUGs, and then try to run them in story mode with guildies. I don't get people who skip all the stuff to loot either, especially in Aeylid dungeons. You can find furniture recipes in there that sell for 10M+. Take the couple of seconds to click on all the boxes, barrels, urns, etc.

I play ESO and have never run a group dungeon in the off and on years I have played it.

Thats exactly why I stopped playing ESO. I just dont like stupid easy games.

When you're cp 2k+ and have ran the dungeons 100+ times on vet and hardmodes, you tend to not take your time trying to get your daily dungeons done on 5+ characters

Play veteran dungeons. It almost completely eliminates any rushers and even in the case of multiple wipes people, at least on the PC EU server, are still pretty chill.

New world ?

Technically impressive, and looks good... Also Korean MMOs always LOOKED league above the rest, like I've seen games that had entire armies rendered way better than in either Western or Japanese strategies. Shame they almost never have decent translation.

I played it back in the beta, then a little after launch. As far as the actual combat and things go, it's good. I enjoyed it. The problem, is that during the beta, everyone worked together. It was a surprise really, everyone worked together to fight big bosses, people were healing each other even though they were just randoms in the world, people were actually having legit conversations in the chat about the game and world (helped that mods/devs were in chat asking for opinions). It was just a great time all around. But then the full release happened. Open world PvP was hard to avoid, and super annoying. People barely worked together anymore once you got past the super early tutorial area. The whole game just instantly lost the charm it had, entirely down to the playerbase expanding and changing. Which sucks, but the game during beta, was great. I loved it. I was super excited when the full release happened, had it installed day-1, ready to go. But...nah. It was nowhere near as fun as the beta was. Like, once the beta ended and the full game came out, it just stopped feeling like it's own thing and started feeling like every other generic MMO. A fairly high quality generic MMO, but still a generic MMO, complete with pointless nothing quests, every player ignoring every other player, and ridiculous costume sets that look absolutely ridiculous and ruin the aesthetic of the game.

Big beards in general can be quite dangerous. Doesn't matter if it's a swan, a goose, or indeed a seagull. Don't mess with them if you can help it.

I too fear the evil plans of the diabolic 'gulls!

Watched a woman with a burger get hit on the head from behind by a seagull in Scotland. They are a menace to be feared.

As someone who lives anywhere that seagulls roam, this is true.

Live on the coast in West Norway. Does not matter where you go, seagulls are airborne rats.

Pokemon then?

@@rubrub3104 yes

This is exactly my experience with Age of Conan.

this was your first mmo? that blows.

So it plays and looks like BDO? Pretty much the same experience. Endgame outside of world pvp is literally everyone grinding the same mobs in the same area for fractions of xp points. And the gear upgrades having high potential of breaking your gear. No dungeons either

Damn, you got to level 40? I stopped after having to grind anacondas in a jungle area for TWO DAYS just to get from level 18 to 20! I think the most fun I had with this game was during the Beta when the tentacle things came out of the sky and spawned high level monsters. It didn't matter what level you were, you could fight and help others and I kinda had fun getting obliterated. One swipe from a monster would one-shot a bunch of players at once. Everyone was just there doing their best and helping each other and having a fun time.

expanding the size of his sack ;")

I could only imagine the comedy if he reviewed sherwood dungeons

Josh is very blessed

The world strongest bit of rope got me laughing pretty hard

The Mike Wazowski pfp had me dying

Yap, clearly korean server.

It's understandable it may be the default but with simple code you can set the default, on the first launch, to the server with less ping. Online games often do this so your experience isn't ruined by lag, or in some cases, people who don't know your language enough to even type in chat to 'change region in launcher to join EU server #n'.

Ahhhh that explains everything. This needs more attention. Surprised, his ping wasn't horrible. *MAYBE8* it actually WAS horrible?!

@@Sorrowdusk i would say it probably was, given that you could see a bunch of weird sliding around at times as well as attacks and their hit confirmation being a little delayed from each other

Three AM caravans from Constantinople to Yangan were the bomb tbh

Played SRO back in 2004, later it was flooded with bots and they killed the trading system. That was when i stopped the grind.

@@KayDSmith Bots and Turks was the name of SRO back when I played it

I remeber in silkroad first went open from beta and when there were more player dots on the maps than enemy dots

the only reason that stopped me from playing iSRO is when we had the first “manual merge”. that time got busy really with real life forgot to do it manually HOOOF!! after i logged in some of my hard earned items were KAPusH!! the best experience i had was the caravan runs from jangan all the way up to hotan! with ur hands so sweaty waiting for high level thief with seal of sun set 😅 - troy server

That's Chinese and it reads "Too lazy to think of a name 233" from what i can see of the footage.

That's more or less what happened to me with Neverwinter.

Happens in ESO sometimes. When they get mad at me for not keeping up with them I get so close to flaming them. They do the group finder dungeons for the bonuses. They could just find the dungeon themselves on the map, but they don't. They squeeze out every minescule bonus they can and make the experience awful for everyone else. Thankfully, I've had experiences in dungeons that were much better. Have had many many people carry me and my friend through some very difficult dungeons. They've been very nice in the chat too, so it far offsets the one absolute douche canoe.

the only time I enjoyed a dungeon run like that was in WoW, and that was specifically because my guild leader helped me through a low-level dungeon so I could get all the loot without having to fight any of the trash mobs because I was the only person who'd turned up for a guild dungeon night and she didn't want me to leave empty-handed

@@whiteraven562 That is a wholesome story. I wish more people had experiences like that.

I think FFXIV handles this the best of the current mmos but even it can suffer from "speedrun syndrome" with the wall to wall pulls and such. Thankfully the sprout system and overall friendly community minimize the issue.

That is not what whelm means. Whelm is like "overwhelm" but typically not in the same figurative use for "total defeat" - it means to cover in water or be submerged. Good cut, though. Keep swinging that bat.

@@CyberneticArgumentCreator idk, i felt pretty submerged by the writing

You've made me realize I don't know what "whelming" means in over/underwhelming

Just wanted to say I haven't seen all of the playlist but this is his best script so far. The nuance, the subtle humour, the ineffable delivery... :chefs kiss: Perfection.gif

@@thaias9654 Whelming = Intensity Ie. Overwhelmed could be "Drained (Overwhelmed) from too much stress," or "Enemy forces greatly overpower/outnumber (Overwhelm) the defenders. Underwhelmed could be "That performance brought out little joy (Underwhelming)," or "The enemy's RPG-7 did very little (Underwhelming) damage to our tank."

Germany also kinda has a tradition of waging massive wars with it's neighbors and genocide, so I don't think we should be using them as an example for anything.

@@karenwang313 idk man in comparison to Brittain or France we were pretty tame untill that one Austrian bloke. So, y'know Shut your gob. Also i'm from south Germany So Double shut your gob Fasching is fun.

@@karenwang313 tradition of waging massive wars with it's neighbors and genocide so you mean anybody

@@karenwang313 Yes lets completely delete the entire importance of a culture and history because of one point in their history.

@@karenwang313 As do extremists such as yourself.

Yeah the overall game looks interesting actually, it’s just empty. The weird audio balancing is something I see all the time in AAA games lol, especially if dubbed into a foreign language (which I assume this might be). Pulling mechanics from Dark Souls or other games that are in vogue right now is pretty normal for big name games too, and often adds to the game.

He did the tutorial version of that dungeon the game scales all dungeons do very hard and the world bosses are very challenging Josh did not do a good job reviewing this game he barley got out of the tutorial there's over 50 world bosses all uniquely designed not copy and pasted it's a very good game tbh it died more so after the devs sold the game to a new publisher and everyone jumped ship as both publishers have a bad reputation for closing a game. People don't want to wast time with a game if it's going to close on them. Proof to what I say is it was ranked really high right before thus happend

@@modernlegend_gaming Thing is it fails as a tutorial if you never get to experience any mechanics, because they let an over leveled character in, that can just face roll the keyboard and succeed. It similarly would be useless for the high level to learn anything to prepare for a level scaled version.

WoW has aggro enemies reduce aggro radius the higher your level. If your level is high enough it won't aggro until you walk up to it. FFXI has mobs that con as "Too weak to be worthwhile" and won't attack you unless you got enmity from resting near them or heal someone else who had enmity.

@@shirrenthewanderer414 FF14 has neutral enemies and aggressive enemies. The neutral ones never attack you unless you attack them, and aggressive enemies always attack you, unless you are at least eleven levels above them, then they will ignore you until you attack them.

TRUE THO

Hell, the first MMO I ever played, City of Heroes, set the standard for me on this. Enemies that are too low level to be considered a challenge don't aggro unless you attack them, which made perfect sense to me. If a level 1 gang member sees a level 20 superhero going by, he's going to stand there quietly hoping not to draw attention.

@@chosenuwu tRuE tHo 🥴

I don't think the genre as a whole needs to move past mob grinding. There are people who enjoy the mob camps and whatnot from the days of EverQuest, me included even though I'm a younger player. I think it's just a preference from player to player.

This is why I love FF14 raids. There isn't bs trash mobs, you just go and fight the boss which is what you wanted to do anyway. It also adheres to the "forced to kill mobs to progress" in dungeons but it's always set up so there are two packs of mobs before each boss so you can burn them down pretty quickly.

@@lon8884 FF14 is just perfect, raids are flawless and the fact you spawn right there is so refreshing wish more mmos did that

@@sillyredsheep2421 I'd say say those players ask what about it they are enjoying doing. I'd suggest there are better ways to improve the experience they want while also improving the experience of those that have no desire to "waste time". If it's a way of progressing solo there have to be better ways. If it's a way of being able to do something simple repetitive and turn the mind off after a long day and still make progress; ok then have it as a section of gameplay for this rather than pushing it everywhere.

@@lon8884 Shin Megami Tensei online did this well... sort of. When your gear isn't finished, which is essentially a lifelong task, any enemy can easily kill you, particularly because the wrong skill will reflect your damage back, and you can do substantially more damage than your health. When it is finished this only applies to the latest content. Enemies have different weaknesses and you may not have the skills to do it. You can have multiple demon partners to help you but raising them is a lengthy task.

I hate people who dungeon rush as they often get upset if you actually want to play properly. That ruined dungeons for me in guild wars 2.

i feel so bad for him :c

I also think they're a good idea, based on my own experiences in Tera way before the game died. I went through non-endgame dungeons on some characters, and didn't on others, and I found that I had a far easier time in endgame if I had gone through earlier dungeons, because getting to max level grinding mobs or doing quests doesn't teach you how to play your class in a dungeon setting. going through dungeons does. and at the time I played Tera, there weren't any real punishments for dying before endgame, so if your party wiped in a dungeon the only thing you lost was the time spent in the run. it was a great way to learn dungeon mechanics and how to work in a team, before you got to the point where you'd be running into more serious players who just wanted to get their daily dungeon run over and done with

Maybe so, but not everyone who sees this video will have seen everything he's put up. Sure, it's a problem if you can tune out for half of every video because you could recite his lines in your sleep; at that point he'd just be padding his runtime.

He keeps making different names for the game, what do you expect 😂

damn he hasn’t done another one of these in almost 5 months

And in this particular instance you probably didn’t even actually play this one but one or more of the other games by the same(ish) name from the same(?) company.

i was thinking of doing a drinking game on it.

Bless Uncrustable was my favorite one xD

He's been watching Yahtzee I imagine.

@@seifer447 Yeah it's a very Zero Punctuation thing to do

For what i received i passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the scriptures 1 Corinthians 15 3

"Blessed uncrusted".

​@@s.c.2180this one had me laughing

100 episode special?

I was about to suggest this, but then I realized what that would do to the internet... people would start to compare the values of the scores against each other... "Oh, Flying the eagles out of Mordor is lower than Ninja's in space but higher than Yugioh out of 10 so waffles are worthy and should be able to lift Thor's Hammer."

I'd be excited. 4e was great. 5e still lacks many of hte basic features that 4e had.

reminds me of a short video: "in 4th edition, we spent four hours fighting goblins." '...that's the end of the story."

@@MelissiaBlackheart 4e has great balance between the classes but monsters have way too much HP. Combat takes too long cause of it.

@@shinon748 You would appreciate the _Monster Manual 3_ and _Monster Vault_ books, then. The authors realized that people wanted shorter, more-intense fights (the idea had been "let monsters have enough turns to do cool stuff," but people weren't keen on the long fights that resulted), so the monster math from MM3 onward was recalculated. Lower defenses, lower HP, higher damage--monsters in general became much more threatening, while combats became faster (especially if you had a Warlord or Shaman to grant lots of attacks.) The "MM3 on a business card" came into existence for that reason, the new monster math was generally very well-received.

1d20+dex+1/2 level. People who pretend 4e was somehow mechanically confusing likely either never played it, played it in bad faiht, or played it with a bad DM.

"magical D20"...

​@@MelissiaBlackheart I'll be playing 4e tomorrow. Have tried 5e, and it just feels like a toned down 3.5, while still somehow managing to have all the problems of 3.5. I get some people enjoy the more open system of 5e, but I'm largely sticking with 4e, it works for the group I play with far better.

Dont get it

@@MelissiaBlackheart Yeah, having played a lot of D&D, 4th is the only one I still generally consider good. Shame there's a lot of bad will towards it.

Champions Online has some really entertaining quest lines that I will never complete because I rolled Grimoire which is apparently total garbage and the final encounter is always something that is mathematically impossible for me to beat at or even a little above level.

yes

Ohhh that's a great idea!!!

save it either for after ep 69 (for the memes) or after breaking 3 digits on ep 100

awesome idea hope this gets upvoted

praise Brassica Prime

personally my first thought was of the Stabbages from the Swords webcomic

:c

I thought of the guy who had the cabbage cart in Avatar the Last Airbender. "My cabbages" - cabbage salesman, probably

Through the entire 41:38 review of this what part did he consider "disaster" ? He said it's bland, not a train wreck.

@@TinariKao You clearly missed the joke here. Also, it's my opinion that the game's a disaster.

@@goseals6 You silly. You can't like... have an OPINION on the internet!

@@TinariKao Excuse me? Newbcake is telling the truth.

@@neilisawesome2333 No, they're trying to state an opinion and we're not allowed those on the internet, silly billy

This quest is a huge problem. I solo’d the bosses for 30min each when i played. Definitely the biggest quit moment in the game.

had the same experience then i figured id just wait to play it again when i saw the roadmap that mentioned a new class and then the class never came lol

Same with me. Stuck somewhere 20-30 or maybe until 30 idk and this was enough.

Its different when u are working for a company selling a product. He, at least, should have an avatar that represents the company, not a boomer meme. If you dress like a clown, people gonna expect a circus.

@@jackzera7356 Tell that to Yoshi P and the FFXIV devs. I'd rather Admins try to add a little of their personality to their work. It's more authentic than canned machine response code: 13107.

@@Blackpapalink This. You can't make a joke nowadays without retards spazzing out.

It gives me the feeling that they actually play the game and care about it more than financially

It honestly shows that they care enough about the game to change their pfp in the forums

I grinded arena til rank 1, and even I didn't open world PvP very often. Mainly because the soy boys wished you death IRL repeatedly for being so much better than them. Most PvP was done on the beach deep within one of the later zones between people who wanted to fight. Past that; the only time you were killed in an earlier area was because you talked shit and decided to go participate in a world boss run with the community. I'd come hunt your ass down among 30 other people and most people wouldn't say nothing as world chat was for everyone; and they saw it coming. lol On the other side of that spectrum. If you weren't a pvp'er in that game and asked out for help. Myself and a handful of other people that loved pvp would come join you to gank whoever was being bloodthirsty that day. 😆

Yeah, forced pvp in any game is mega yikes

i quit it long ago but the forced pvp thing isnt actually at lvl 30 but rather its just some maps have pvp enabled if my memory serves right you also dont lose much? in my server there wasnt actually much people KoSing since they would have a killer debuff where people actually hunt killers because of rewards and you cant participate in a maps mini boss because a lot of people farm it and if you come there with a killer status YOU are the mini boss

11 was a gem so many great memories

It was specifically tailored to take everything Everquest was doing and do it better.

I had to quit. Ff11 was ruining my life in a very real way. I almost failed high school as I'd constantly skip school to play. Amazing amazing game. ill never play it again. Yes, I still miss it sometimes.

@@vayneglory655 There's always Eureka in FF14 if you want to recapture that feeling without diving back in.

@@Toksyuryel eureka is nothing like FF11 besides having NMs referencing it and was one of the main reasons I quit 14 lol. It was just mindless rushing to NM FATE spawns like the Hunts. It's not even like Abyssea, which it sounded like on paper and was a thing I actually really enjoyed in 11.

tbf i do from time to time play destiny 2 and i am still baffled on the point of 'how the frick' does that game be anything financially viable with their constant deleting of prior content, it's the main thing that keeps me from ever buying a single expac for them since it's just 'play when it's live' which i just cannot get behind as live-service monetization, even gw2 got a ton of backlash for similar stuff with living world season 1 that they spent years reworking the stuff to fit it intoa more long term persistent version that only was ready after 3 expacs. but yeah, definitly would love to see/hear Josh's take on destiny 2

new player experience has only gotten worse since the removal of the launch campaign. all you do it go to point A. pick up 5 quest, complete quest, repeat until your light level is high enough for nightfall, do nightfall, get pinnacle gear, get shit on by sweats in pvp, do more quest, repeat.

Even worse that they want you to buy everything expansion on its own and will eventually more or less delete that content latter on.

@@alyssavanderklift9296 They're financially viable because of a very large dedicated playerbase that never saw anything wrong (or not enough to stop buying) with Eververse while also supporting DLCs and season passes. The new player experience is rubbish and they were told that as soon as they announced that they were 'vaulting' (read cutting) the earlier campaigns. Yes there were people like you and I who reached a point where their systems made them leave (my breaking point was how bad their weave system is), but they're still raking in stupid amounts of money from the majority not caring.

Destiny 2 is a case study on how live service games can deteriorate into milking the existing playerbase at the total expense of a cohesive game that can be played and enjoyed by a new player regardless of time. They butchered that game so much you cannot even make sense of it unless you have been playing since launch.

Your profile pic is certainly trustworthy. Astolfo always inspires confidence.

@@EvocativeKitsune thank you my dear, for king charlemagne

Indeed

Yea he should