Love that guy! He killed it though, in fairness they all did good!

I hope he wins the semi-final.

google inc depends who's wearing the symbiote

The current returning Brock is a antihero.

Julia Silva Anyone else see Mike Carlson in the Geico commercials. I start laughing everytime it's on.

CmmdrKeen950 It's a stretch but I'll allow it

How does this only have 45 likes

LOL .. great idea ... Jack Sparrow ... Vs .. Aliens ..

it was beautiful. He just shut it down and it made no sense. Rocha trying to bring race issues into a simply comedy poster was so stupid. I'm glad Andy did something isntead of just do nothing because it might be controversial.

Raphael no he definitely made a good point it was racist fwi he's the only minority in the room so the rest of them wouldn't understand which is why they found it funny

Marat that's why it's worse, a 2 is more watchable than a 5. Only Transformers 4 has made me more bored and caused me more pain than Alien 3.

Marat wtf are they putting Prometheus in there I love that movie it's like a 9 or 8.5

GuyEffect Yeah, I don't get it either. It's not a bad film. Also they lack imagination. What might the throwing stuff into the river scene mean? What about they were creating life on earth?

The special edition is actually quite good.

Marat we should ask questions it's a mystery why explain everything right away when you can make a franchise with original stories

City of Lost Children and Amelie are good films. Alien 4 is not. Countries have nothing to do with it.

What Rocha was saying that the director wasn't aiming to make some sci-fi epic. He used to crafting French art house films - ala The City of Lost Gods and Amelle. So if you go into Alien 4 expecting a big science fiction epic, you're going to be disappointed because the movie and director aren't a good fit together. It's like pairing Andrei Tarkovsky to a Marvel movie; it's not an appropriate fit. Plus, in mentioning the fact that he is French also alludes to some loss in cultural and linguistic translation; which is actually true given the fact that Jean Pierce didn't speak English during the time of filming, so all of his direction come through translators.

"It's like pairing Andrei Tarkovsky to a Marvel movie; it's not an appropriate fit." You lost me there, as I would pay to see that! Levity... I don't agree with what you're saying and think you're much better at discussing this than Rocha was. I'm also happy to read your response, because it may be the first intelligent and considerate one I've received on KZfaq. so thank you for that!

If you watch City Of Lost Children, it's a slow-moving character driven sci-fi that features some really interesting concepts and designs and is more about the strange and layered character relationships than moving the plot forward at an exciting pace. The studio definitely should have known what they were buying when they hired him. I really like A4 overall -- but was a huge fan of Jean-Pierre Jeunet before Alien: Resurrection and got exactly what I expected.

I'm a fan of Jean-Pierre Jeunet as well and think that A4 is his worst film... I don't know that story behind the scenes, but it doesn't seem or feel like one of his movies - like the studio interfered. A pure Jeunet alien film would have been better and more interesting...

You are a great fighter! It's always nice to see you fight.

Hi Coy. I was thinking of when Spencer argued Iron Giant vs. Kevin Smith's C-3PO, and Kevin won by using his nukes against him. Thought that might have occurred to you. :P

I was yelling a list of robots at the screen while you were trying to come up with one.. "Iron Giant! K2S-O! Vision! Ultron! Data!" I understand, though, that under the lights on a show puts some added pressure... I probably would have froze in that situation as well. Great fight regardless!

Baymax

Robbie the Robot from Forbidden Planet. He is like C3Po but is also superstrong and can replicate stuff.

Kal-El fan 49 WHY did noone pick requiem?!?

Kal-El fan 49 and the most unwatchable!

BOTH franchises, Alien or Predator

I tend not to count those films as existing...

because that is the AvP franchise. :troll:

I hate it when people on this show try and use serious topics like race or sexism to try and win arguments, and Rocha always does that.

Crichjo32 it's because he's not a smart guy and he tries to win by attempting to force people into discussions with complicated issues but only in terms of absolutes. He doesn't realize any of this because, like I said, he's not a smart guy, but he obviously gets off on being an antagonist and now the show is rewarding him for it.

chris brown Was his reasoning legit? All he saw was the color of the man Superman was saving thus making this the worst poster of all time? Yes pryor is being saved by a white man/alien but for Superman his job is to save everyone. A Uncle Tom is a black guy who chooses to be subservient to white people for thier own benefit (example Uncle Ruckus from the Boondocks). So if it was any other race that superman was saving Asian, Hispanic, White.... or even a female what would Rocha say? Definitely not Uncle Tom. And beside the Race issue the poster is cool looking compared to the other two....

Alex Williams regardless of how you feel (I personally don't see it as racist) the argument is over which poster was the worse. politics aside, Rocha had the strongest argument as to why his was the worst. Coy said his poster was bland and Carlson failed miserably. so if "its based on the arguments" Rocha had the strongest argument.

chris brown Maybe it is a little how I feel, but it was all his feelings as well. so his argument " this poster is the worst because he is saving a black man thus making that black man look like a woman" was better than the argument Coy gave?

Stuckmann is admittedly sensitive when it comes to critique, but so is Dan Murrel, Spencer Gilbert, and plenty of other guests. People like Carlson are the best because they don't really care who wins and understand it's a game. Plus I don't think it can get much worse than Adi Shankar...

Oh god don't remind me

Adi was the single worst Movie Fights guest ever.

egalomon Because that isn't funny

And how they do it right now is? No. No it's not.

egalomon they did that with Mantz v Rocha 3 and they asked which best picture nominee is the best and mantz picked La La Land and Rocha picked moonlight then Andy changed it and said argue why it's the worst so it's been done before

And while this one was funny, the Moonlight La La Land flip was the best because it also showed they could appreciate the other film. When the flip is too extreme they just make ridiculous statements that only work if they get laughs. The Moonlight/La La Land flip there were actual points made.

Richard G it's better than alien 3

headsgrowback slash agree

Richard G they brought up the fact that they included the AVP films in the list. he could have chosen either one of those.

Resurection is a good film (good actors, good realisation, just keep in mind it's not a horror film) if you like other films of Jean Pierre Jeunet. Alien fans may not like it but it's a good film on its own, it's just very different from the other films of the alien franchise. Prometheus is a bad film on its own (the acting is terrible, the plot makes no sense, the writting is mostly terrible even though a few scenes are well written) and it's also a bad film for the franchise because the plot contradict a lot of things in the franchise (the technology is way more advanced than the one in Alien and Aliens even though it's a prequel, the creation of the xenomorph, ...).

Really?! Because in my opinion, anyone who argues that Resurrection is worse than Prometheus loses all credibility. OR we can all have opinions. ;)

MakoM35 this

I'm glad the fighters kept AVP out of it, they're non canon to the Alien franchise. AVP should be considered it's own separate franchise.

bag holder Dude's always taking risks.

The funny thing about the other two is that the Venom from Mike's can actually come after Coy's pitched movie as it is based off a Venom down the timeline and they both can follow after X Spiderman movie. Carnage a buddy or lover well I guess its not carnage since the host isn't an insane serial killer.

Sorry those characters behaved retardedly, only the visuals kept that movie afloat. All sense of logic was thrown out of that film that it made my intelligence feel insulted.

Alien: Covenant was much worse.

completely agree with this

Malvika Menon thank you

Shadow The Jedi Scott took a lot of drugs during prometheus :D

funnypilgo ツ Crack. Lot's and lots of crack.

Shadow The Jedi I mean that octopus and zombie was so fucking stupid, it felt like being in a trash film like Sharknado or smthin. Thanks god Alien Covenant didnt turn into the same direction

il100374 What does that mean

Dr. Manhattan yeah I'm wondering as well.

il100374 they're mostly internet personalities so obviously they're being on the conservative side to minimize any backlash or possible damage to their image.

Per the above comments - of course they're careful. Have you ever seen the negative backlash they get in these comments some times? There are some horrible KZfaq/Internet trolls unfortunately who really tarnish comment threads/forums/etc.

javierich0 true. alien 3 is so boring I fell asleep. A4 was atleast entertaining

Ichenmeis Alien 3, no contest

John Johnston I actually enjoyed Alien 3 as a whole. The only dumb thing about it is that they kill Newt and Riggs off-screen at the beginning. Resurrection is by far, the worst. The plot was stupid, the acting was fucking horrible, especially from Winona Ryder, and the CGI is just plain bad. The only things I like about Resurrection are the scene where Ripley kills all the failed clones and the Xenomorph with human traits, which was an EXTREMELY interesting idea and made me somewhat accept the clone Ripley plot.

Alien3 at least has a cast with actors like Charles Dance and Pete Postlewhite (Rip) so it isnt that bad.

Anime Guru Anime Guru while I agree with you that Covenant is not a good film, and that the notion that David created the Xenomorph species is lame, you are incorrect to say that this is a plot hole...Covenant takes place 16 years before the original Alien; we still have a crappy sequel to look forward to in which every interesting mystery of the original film is explained...

The Mad parody of it is actually a better Alien movie than the movie itself.

The Mysterious Red Warrior: Blood by far. red guy was spot on the entire time

Just for context. Do you know that Alien Covenant is a prequel?

Scott is obviously going to explain that in the next prequel movie to Alien. Though I still agree that having an android as being responsible for the creation of the xenomorphs is rather underwhelming.

I miss that time when french had good director.

Anime guru I actually liked alien covenant

There's usually not one until it's released on Home video

Good idea. They wouldn't have thought to do this.

MrTrexMcgee cause they do it when the movie comes out... Why is that so hard to understand?

idiot.

Jaws 1: fucking masterful. Jaws 2: eh alright, cool. decent sequel more Jaws. Jaws 3: Okay, what the fuck was this. Jaws 4: Uejsjhebsiakowkq ok snnjdidj, DAFUQ IS THIS SHAKESPEAREAN SHARK VENGEANCE?

I'm sure they all chose 4 but they can't do the same one so the others have to chose another one after the tie breaker off screen

Jaws 2 is actually on par with the first movie. But 3 and 4 are absolute garbage

MetallicA7X92 A/C is a slap in the face to Prometheus fans. Ridley Scott said all the questions we have in Prometheus will be answered in A/C and guess what, nothing was answered in A/C.

WoodBlock707 What questions? Engineers? That's the question I'm left with. Personally I don't think we've seen the last of the Engineers as we know there's one in Alien(1979) and they've obviously done planetary travel for a long time, using planets for their own betterment. The first planet we see them terraform in Prometheus is not specified, it could be Earth or it could be a completely different planet, but we know they use planets.

I don't know what your guy's problem is. Every speed round with Coy in it are exciting slober-knockers. He elivates his competition.

Prometheus is a good movie. People expected it to be like Alien, well it's not. Its a gorgeous movie and its has a great science fiction narrative. Makes u think. So, yeah. No joke. Its a good movie. Needed multiple views to discover some hidden themes tho. I love when science fiction movies do that.

M. LIVERA hahahahahahahaha!!! 💩

Lool! Great argument! XD Come on man, at least try a little bit better, cuz that's just sad :P

Was like you upon the first viewing. Went back and watched, its far better than what people makes it out to be. Its not the best movie ever made. It certainly isn't a perfect one but I appreciated the themes it explored and the way it executed them.

nope i disagree, still its just my opinion. Have to say tho, appreciate the decent conversation. Good to see that there are still people on the YT comment section with whom a person can have decent arguments with.

andy mcclure usually yes but Carlson and Coy cancel that out

Makes it harder to win.

SuperShanko and less interesting to watch

Just read a couple of comments. Some people really hate that movie. I will defend it until my deathbed but I don't ignore that it has problems

Chris Robinson I will agree there, Prometheus has alot of problems indeed, but even if there is alot of problems with a movie does not mean its not good in my opinion. Just look at Tha Dark Knight Rises, a movie riddeled with problems, but its still great 👍

xXX xXx yep, I liked that movie very much, but it has some things wrong with it

I find it terrible. It has some good elements (some dialogues are very good, like the one between Holloway and David, Michael Fassbender acting is neat) but it has so many problems, the worst one being the plot. The plot advances only because the characters are very stupid and constantly makes huge mistakes (the crew take off their helmets, even though every scientist would knlw about microbes risk, which leads to the jars leaking the black goo because of air changes ; Millburn and Fifield are lost even though they have the map ; they take refuge in the very room they fled in the first place, ...) or because of plot holes (the creature in the abdomen of Shaw should have been killed by the surgery machine, Shaw run and jump a few hours after taking heavy surgery and tons of painkillers, ...). It's very frustrating. We don't give a fuck about most of the crew because they were not really introduced, when they die we don't care. That kills the tension of some scenes.

Well, to one their own opinion, you do make some good points though... I still enjoyed it