People can say anything about Ross as a character , but David Schwimmer is the best actor for sure , he even made Ross "likable" sometimes and a lot of times

Not defending any of this, but siblings surrogating for each other actually does happen sometimes. Since the egg wouldn't be hers, even though she's carrying it the baby wouldn't be created with her DNA.

I agree with your criticism about Susan. She just seemed to be cruel to Ross for no reason, and you'd be surprised that Carol never calls her out on treating her ex horribly.

Funny thing about Susan and Ross is that, in the episode where Susan and Carol get married, there's a scene towards the end in which Susan thanks Ross for encouraging Carol to marry her, and they end up dancing together, it was a nice moment and could've signified a turning point where both characters have some respect for one another, but all future appearances of Susan consist of "lol fuck you Ross" and said respect seemed to be only temporary. I'm not saying they had to be best friends but it would've been nice for their "relationship" to have some development.

I really think all three of them were terrible. Carol literally cheated on Ross and everyone just ignores it, Ross is a "Nice Guy" and it's played off as sympathetic and endearing when it isn't, and Susan is exactly as you said, a man hating lesbian stereotype. The dynamic between the three of them was just gross.

For a second there i thought it would be a solid 28 minutes of the worst clips from friends cut together

I mean yeah the age gap with Richard was weird but it's also the whole reason it didn't work out: He had already lived a full life and had kids and everything, Monica hadn't experienced that and wasn't gonna force him to go through it again

YES SUSAN WAS AWFUL! THANK YOU! Another thing was she didn’t even want the baby to have his father’s surname but her own!! Unbelievably disrespectful, especially as the baby having her surname made no sense as her and Carol had only been dating. I will never understand those that like her but don’t like Ross.

i'm so glad you called out Susan on her horrible toxic behaviour. no matter Carol''s personal issues about what was going on in her head about her acceptance of her true self, Susan had an affair with a married woman and hated Ross for having a romantic relationship with Carol, previous who was married too at the time. She tried to take over the pregnancy, the name of the baby, and make it all about her. casually forgetting that legally she had no rights at all. she even wanted Ben to have her last name, instead of Geller. She really was manipulative, toxic and looking it through another lens. was Susan manipulated to leave her husband to be with her, while also gaslighted to believe and go along with everything Susan said. remember that Susan's was Carol's first relationship with her own gender outside the remarriage as we know, which means in a power dynamic Susan was holding all the cards the fact that at the time same marriage was hardly ever depicted in media at all, so instead of having someone who came in, fell in love with Susan after she split up with Ross, and then Susan found out she was pregnant, and was presented as a decent person with a new dynamic and was friendly to ross, and learning how to co-parents. instead, we got Susan, who just hated Ross on sight. the whole thing really should have been done better

Ross didn't needed a girlfriend , Ross didn't needed a relationship , Ross didn't needed Rachel ( definitely not ) , Ross only needed a therapy

What always annoys me about Friends writing is this syndrome of suddenly changing an outside partner's personality drastically because they needed it to end for an in-group relationship. Like, you had Monica dating Pete, who was charming and worked great for her, but they needed to get single for the fourth season, so out of the blue Pete becomes obsessed with UFC. Emily's relationship with Ross was pretty healthy, whatever you may think about hastiness, but then the writers needed to break them up for another batch of Ross-Rachel drama, so she suddenly becomes manipulative and hysteric.

They all have gone through "Flanderization" until the end. The act of taking a single (often minor) action or trait of a character within a work and exaggerating it more and more over time until it completely consumes the character. Monica got the worst of it because at least Joey and Phoebe were funny in their stupidity while Monica really wasnt with her OCD tidyness.

Rachel and Ross getting back together at random, isn't really random. I remember binge watching the show a few years back and you realize that almost every finale Ross and Rachel get together only for the premier of the next season to rip them apart because it's to early. Their relationship is just used to create a holy shit moment for the climax of a season and then forgotten about because it's not the end of the show yet

That Rachel and Joey thing was stupid as fuck. Show really jumped the shark when Joey and Chandler stopped living together. It lost some of its spark.

I'm surprised you didn't bring up Emily, Ross' second wife. You did show a pic of her but her whole relationship with Ross felt rushed just so we could get a trip to London out of it. The end of the relationship was also super unsatisfying and ultimately had no payoff.

I always thought Rachel had really weird and cheap romantic storylines after Ross. Which was lame because Ross had multiple girlfriends who were gorgeous and smart. They did Rachel dirty.

You missed more stuff about Rachel imo. While I agree with all the stuff about Ross, everyone seems to gloss over how jealous Rachel got over Ross's girlfriends too. -She begged him to take Emily off her hands so she could go on a date with Joshua, stating that she thought they were at a point where they could be happy for each other... but then was sour that Ross and Emily got along really well. After he announced that he and Emily would be getting married, she tries to push her relationship with Joshua closer to marriage to just be "even" with Ross. -She allowed Phoebe to set Ross up with Bonnie, under the guise that Phoebe said she was bald. And then when she turned out to be not bald, Rachel gets mad at Phoebe. Once Bonnie shows up to the beach to be with Ross, Rachel becomes (understandably) miserable. She convinces Bonnie to shave her head, knowing that superficial Ross will not like it. Then after he breaks it off with Bonnie to be with Rachel, she refuses a kiss (even though she kissed him before while Ross was still with Bonnie) and writes the infamous 18-page front and back letter blaming Ross for all their prior problems. -She was extremely rude to Julie and again kissed Ross while he was still with her. Julie was super cool and was probably the best suited for Ross but because of Ross's long crush on Rachel, he breaks things off with Julie. Obviously, the pros and cons list was not nice (again, I'm not saying that Ross is a good guy but we know that already) but Rachel essentially makes Ross break up with Julie only to immediately break up with Ross. -On her birthday she kisses Gavin on the balcony of Monica's apartment and then gets mad when Ross brings that obsessive lady into his apartment (and Rachel calls it HER apartment), and glosses over the point that Ross makes about how he was taking care of their daughter whilst she was kissing Gavin. -Even though Rachel didn't do anything with Mark while she was with Ross, Mark comes over while they were on a break, and Rachel doesn't really stop him. Not only that, but Mark was the first guy that she went out with after their breakup. -And lastly, Rachel is a selfish sore loser. If things work out the way she wanted them to, she'll march around and give people half-baked advice about how they just have to be better and if she can do it, then so can they. But when she doesn't get her way, it has to be everyone's problem. i.e. after Ross and Rachel break up, and Ross is the only one who can rescue them from car troubles, she forces her friends to keep freezing just because she doesn't want to deal with Ross. When Joey stupidly bids a lot on the boat, she doesn't care if Joey can't afford the boat, and nearly forces him to buy it so that her boss won't get mad at her. When they play the trivia game betting on the apartment, Monica even calls her out when they lose saying that if Chandler and Joey lost, she would've made them give up the birds while not wanting to give up the apartment. There's probably more, but this comment is already way too long. Sorry! Good video Vee Infuso!

One Continuity error that always sticks out for me is when they had a whole ass episode title "The one where chandler can't cry" were they out of nowhere portray Chandler as an emotionless robot that has never shed a tear in his life. But there were moments before were he cried like when he propose to Monica or When ross ask both him and joey to be his best men at his 2nd wedding

when I first watched the show, I didn’t mind Monica and Richard’s relationship too much, but the more times I saw the show and noticed more details, I realized how gross it was! Richard and his family lived in the same neighborhood as Monica and Ross’ family while they were growing up, Richard had kids the same age as Monica and Ross, and was BEST FRIENDS with Jack and Judy Geller. Ross even said “he’s like a BROTHER to Dad” imagine growing up with this man who is basically your uncle, and then having a serious relationship with him?? (and also kissing his son a couple years later) also imagine watching your best friends kid grow up, and then being attracted to her?? it’s a no from me.

Friends is one of my favorite shows and all of these criticisms are valid.

Danny Devito was the only well used guest star on the show. His stripper episode was hilarious.

And what make the Susan thing worse is that people call Ross petty for not liking Susan.

One thing I hated that I don’t think gets brought tip much is how much meaner Monica gets, and not even in a funny way. Like how she acts during Phoebe’s rehearsal dinner to me is the perfect example of this

Alternative timeline of Friends: Season 8 finale: Ross proposes to Rachel after Emma is born (she says yes) Season 9 builds up to their wedding Season 9 finale: Ross and Rachel actually get married in Barbados Season 10: Rachel gets the job in Paris, Ross finds palaeontology work there too Series finale: Ross and Rachel move to Paris with Emma

I think the Ben Stiller cameo is hilarious !

Clip shows existed in an era when people didn't have or want to spend money on buying the whole series on vhs to rewatch episodes, or could go online to reewatch shows, so if they wanted to remind the audience of something that happened a few years ago... they would use clipshows

Clip shows where great at a time when people couldn't rewatch episodes at any time

I got behind most of these but the phoebe bit was just a fundamental misunderstanding of the character lol the point of her stories is that she is bizarre and does bizarre things. I literally said “that’s the joke” out loud at the video at one point. And Mike and Phoebe make so much sense, he grounds her in reality with his average Joe-ness. And it makes sense she didn’t end up with David, if you think about it, they only saw each other a few times over 8 years, they grew and changed apart from each other and weren’t the people they were when they first dated.

The whole Rachel and tag thing would have Been seriously creepy and work place harassment if it were the other way around.

I didnt mind the triplets storyline tbh, it came from a kind place and wanting to help her brother, and also proved thorugh a huge gesture that she finally accepted her brothers relationship with Alice as real and legit

Look at this : Ross left Julie / reason : Rachel Ross left Bonnie / reason : Rachel Ross left Emily / reason : Rachel Ross left Jill / reason : Rachel Ross left Katie / reason : Rachel The point is Ross shouldn't have lefting a lot of women because of Rachel , it's not worth leaving a lot of great women because of a only one woman

The absolute worst thing Friends ever did was show Tom Selleck without his moustache. This is television sacrilege. Everything else pales in comparison.

SJWs trying to come for Chandler for being "transphobic" about his father, in spite of the fact passing "jokes" revealed Chandler's father attempted to kidnap him, once had a gay orgy in front of him, and would frequently go to his son's public school events dressed in full drag (Carmen Miranda was used as the punchline, with Chandler's dad passing out the fruit from his headpiece to Chandler's friends) in order to humiliate his ex-wife. Chandler's father, whether a drag queen, crossdresser, or a transgender woman, was not a good father and emotionally abused his son to get even with his ex.

Ross Geller, as a character, can be very awful sometimes… however, David Schwimmer, the actor, played him to perfection! David’s great comedic skills are undeniable

If I'm not mistaken, the Chandler going to Tulsa arc happened after the team found out about Matthew Perry's drug issues, and the decision was made so he would be on the show less and get help.

Clearly Ross was the worst between the boys and Rachel was the worst between the girls

I feel like that episode with Rachel trying to impress JoshUa was intended to make the audience cringe.

The episode where Chandler's boss slap his ass was extremely uncomfortable also Matthew Perry looked unhealthily thin.

Ross kissed his sister and tried to made moves on his cousin. Ross is from Texas confirm.

Title: WORST OF FRIENDS My Mom: Impossible.

Why do chandler and joey constantly reference how good die hard is, but don't recognise Bruce Willis when he turns up as Elizabeth's dad?

I don’t blame Chandler being transphobic in the beginning, his father was the reason for some of his problems, and yes the mom not being there to help him during that period was her fault as well. However, even gay people would not have blamed Chandler as a child should not have to go through that, it’s a painful part of that child’s life. And let’s not forget that when Ross and Rachel were forcing their friends to pick after there heartbreaking break up, he started smoking again and it brought back painful memories of his parents divorce. I’m in no way transphobic but I would not ever blame Chandler and he did accept his father in the end. The problem with the current generation is that they only hear or see this part of Chandlers arc and automatically smell blood. Research before you judge

Susan really bugged me. Carol cheating on Ross gave him a lot of trust issues and issues with jealousy which affected his relationship with Rachel. And for Susan to be so rude and rub it in is just awful. Especially to take over the whole pregnancy really pissed me off. A lot of younger people do actually like Susan and think she’s a badass or whatever. I see it online sometimes and i don’t know it just rubs me the wrong way. I know it’s just a show but if that was to happen in real life, nobody would be on her side. And people would understand why Ross was such a jealous person in relationships and didn’t trust anyone. Because he was cheated on. Whatever this show is good but it also sucks

I don't see anything wrong with Phoebe being a surrogate to her brothers child. That happens a lot actually in real life. It is recommend to ask someone you are close to than a stranger. Just saying research on this stiff. It is weird but it isn't bad

Your point about Susan being rude to Ross is incredibly valid. Does that make you wonder if that would explain why Jack Gellar refers to Emma as his first grandchild and totally forgetting about Ben? I always thought that Jack & Judy Gellar resented Carol for cheating on Ross with Susan.

If Ross and Richard werent played by the actors they were played by I would definitly hate them lmao

Given all the hatred in the comments about certain characters, it surprises me that Judy Geller doesn't get enough hate for how she treats Monica w/ zero development whatsoever.

I hate clip shows this is the laziest think that a show can do!! Good video by the way

I can describe Joey's character as how I portray Patrick Star from SpongeBob: His character is so dumb that he's annoying.

I know everyone loved David for Feebs. But honestly, I kept forgetting he existed till he showed up again

What I hate about alot of shows is if they have a dumb type character..they just make them more dumb season after season..spongebob with patrick, family guy with Peter, Simpson's with homer, american dad with stan, and etc. It really fucked up those shows.

I don’t like Susan - she’s not a bad character, just written to be unlikable. However, having a gay character be a bad and annoying person isn’t problematic or in bad taste. Gay characters shouldn’t be treated differently in the writers’ room when it comes to likability or portrayal.

One thing you missed was the constant fluctuation of the friend’s financial situation. It’s weird considering the only one who was rich was Rachel. Everyone else was middle class at most. There’s also the fact that 2 bedroom New York sky view apartments with balconies aren’t cheap. In some episodes they’re eating out and going to expensive parties, and in others they’re lamenting about debt and having to shop at thrift stores. I think this was done on purposes since if the friends were too rich, then they’d be unrelatable. If they were too poor, then they’d be too relatable.

I'm sorry but I couldn't disagree more on Phoebe and Joey being a couple. The platonic relationship they end up having, it's waaaaay more effective than any of the actual romantic ones, even if they wouldn't end up together, I feel like having them as a relationship at some point would've weakend that.

I will defend Ross to the death for what is essentially bad writing. They really massacred him at times and those are the ones people remember. The male nanny thing was so out of character that it made absolutely no sense for him to behave that way. The cousin thing was, again, horrendously bad writing. The only one I think could be explained is Ben and the barbie, only because Ross was constantly being sidelined by Carol and Susan and was constantly missing out on stuff. He's not right to do what he did but a) this was 1995 and b) it was one way of him actually having control over something. By the end of the episode he'd pretty much realised he was being an idiot and it never came up again. Rachel was the most toxic character out of the lot of them. If people put as much effort into her as they do into Ross they'd realise she's an absolute piece of trash.

I'm pretty sure when Rachel is planning to leave for Paris she mentions Emma is staying with her mom while Rachel goes ahead to settle in and Mrs Greene would bring her over later. So many people seem to overlook this.

That shoutout from David Jaffe was awesome. The show did have its bad and woeful episodes but its still an incredible show. I still watch it today.

Could you VEE any more Infuso!?

Ross and his cousin was super creepy. How can you look at your family member and think she's hot.

No, Chandler's father did have a sex change. However, it's not really transphobia. He doesn't hate the gender as a whole; he's resentful because of the specific things his father did. Besides, due to how society was back then, no one taught Chandler to be more open-minded.

the rachel dating joey thing, the creators/writers said they did it “to prove that it was a bad idea”

Ross was the worst thing that happened to Rachel and Rachel was the worst thing that happened to Ross

Even though I am die hard Friends fan, you made some valid points, especially Ross. I don´t understand one thing... you criticize development of some characters and then you say as example plots from first season (Joey losing Ben, Monica and her identity thief). It does not makes sense. IBtw. T hink most of the cameos were so insignificant, because these actors were not such big stars yet.

I'm THAT GUY who watched several months of Friends on reruns and laughed ONCE. The scene is Joey and Chandler in a waiting room and Joey is sleep deprived or something of the like. And Joey proceeds with his How You Doin? where Chandler asks him if he came on to the entire room

I love friends and I’m English. It’s my fav tv show of all time

I liked the first couple seasons when they first aired, but I hated that Ross was so damn possessive of Rachel and stopped paying attention after that.

His dad was not a dragqueen. His dad was jessica rabbit.

But you do realize that most of the comedy in Friends comes from the fact that the characters are so deeply flawed, right?

He is eating ice cream to impress the girl silly

Joey and Rachel is one of the biggest atrocities to ever occur on television.

The criticism on Ross for dating Elizabeth is somewhat unfair. 1. She is his former student. They start dating after she completes his class. 2. His ex girlfriend dates Elizabeth's father and their age gap is bigger then Ross and Emily but somehow that isn't discussed and ridiculed. For me Rachel and Elizabeth's dad (Paul?) relationship are more questionable then Ross and Elizabeth considering all involved.

Clipshows are just highlight reels and as I always say: highlights are for when you miss the basketball game not for when you’ve seen it already

Unpopular opinion #1: Joey and Rachel made a better couple than Ross and Rachel. The perfect moment that illustrates this is in the season 9 premiere when they tell Rachel that Joey didn't propose, and that it was Ross's ring.. and then Ross is all "Maybe we could think about dating" and Joey says that he was willing to marry her just because of the misunderstanding.. Unpopular opinion #2: there is nothing good about the brad Pitt thanksgiving cameo..

I love the show, but can recognize it’s flaws. I am not a fan of on again/off again relationships and Ross and Rachel’s annoyed me. She wanted him when he was moving on and when he wanted her, she wanted nothing to do with him. That’s why when Monica and Chandler got together, it was a relief because they became such a stable couple. The difference between Ross and Rachel (who the writers made the main couple) and Chandler and Monica is that C and M deal with their problems and the personality traits that can be overbearing (like Chandler’s fear of commitment or his need to substitute humour in situations that don’t require it or Monica’s obsessive neuroticisms and OCD). The writers had the perfect opportunity to make Ross and Rachel become that couple during season 8, but failed and gave us the worst idea of a relationship ever and a waste of a storyline.

Also as for Chandler, I think people who call him transphobic don't realise, he has just as bad a relationship with his mom, and it's shown that not only did his parents have a messy divorce he was caught in the middle of, but both were equally terrible in how they were flaunting their sexuality in front of Chandler growing up and making him massively uncomfortable. Best illustrated by his mom just going to suck face with Chandler's closest friend the moment she gets a chance.

The Joey and Rachel story was cringed to me

The worse thing about Friends was Joey's character. He never left a chance passing sexual comments on those three ladies who were supposed to be his friends. He always wanted to sleep with all of them. Maybe its my cultural difference speaking, but how a girl will feel comfortable around a friend like this?

Alec Baldwin’s Friends run was great.

Honestly, my sister in law offered to be a surrogate for us since we kept losing our babies. He was not thrilled with the idea, but I was touched by the offer.

Dude, you're not an SJW for wanting better LGBT+ representation. It's dumb that people throw that label on anyone who wants some progress.

Ross saying Rachel's name at his marriage with Emily should have been there too.

I agree with Joey’s development, he used to be just.. simple - not dumb. That french lesson was just an insult to his character. I don’t know why they had to dumb them down

Monica's parents sucked. We should have had an episode where she at least confronted them.

"I get that a wedding is a woman's special day" ... come on man and you were doing just fine.

Honestly, I was shipping Joey and Phoebe since the first season, when Ursula appeared

The thing with richard never really bothered me cause my mom married my step dad who was 19 years older then her and they were happy, my younger brother married a women about 13 to 14 years older then him recently and he's happy and my first relationship was with an older man who was a family friend when I was 18 and I was a pretty happy boy, didn't last past 4 years but I wasn't miserable or found it wierd. It's wierd that other people stick their faces in my buisness and tell me who I should date and why they think they know better then me.

The worst part of friends is just a little gap between the first and the last episode

Many people lend their wombs to a family member in need sometimes for free sometimes for pay.

I think Joey is better for Rachel than Ross. I was kinda sad it didn't work. Ross was all about the drama. Joey's chill. He and Rachel worked.

I remember thinking as soon as I saw it that Rachel+Joey was a disastrous idea.

I personally always hated Ross and Rachel. I consider Rachel the most unlikable character on the show, that includes Susan too.

Also the whole wedding with Emily thing... If he somehow mantioned Rachel out of nowhere on accident, I'd take it. But the dude was literally supposed to just repeat the sentence he'd just heard. Noone can be that stupid.

In the first episode of "Family Ties", Maloriy was almost as smart (maybe even on the same level) as Alex. Same for Kelly and Bud on 'Married With Children". Writers seem to think they have to have one extremely stupid character on a show.

Friends was an okay show at best. Ironic in its success but mediocre in its material. There were so many other shows were funnier, more entertaining and better acted.

I mean, Susan is funny BECAUSE she's unreasonably horrible to Ross, and some of the awkward situations you mention are funny BECAUSE they are awkward. XD But yes continuity was a mess and flanderization turned a great sitcom into an ok sitcom.

The worst part about Friends is that it is an inferior knockoff of Living Single.

Ross is the BEST character in FRIENDS.

Lol Ross is my favorite character 😂

Im so glad someone finally called out the pedophilic relationship between Alice and Frank. It seems like everyone just ignores it but Alice is a straight up predator for going after her 18 year old student. And the show just made it seem like Phoebe was wrong for addressing the wrongness between their age differences because "they loved each other".

Never understood the continuity problem with them loving die hard and Bruce willis makes a cameo. Has always annoyed me years later.