that's awesome! thanks for the update. our version only had the pressurised baskets and the "what's in the box"section of the manual also said the same.

Inquired directly from them and they say it only comes with pressurized basket

yeah, so there are some manuals out there that show 4 baskets in the contents diagram. the one we got only had 2 in the diagram

Agree nice review for those who only wish to buy pre-ground coffee. I bought the same Bambino Plus in the UK 2 months ago, badged as Sage in Europe. It came with single and double walled baskets. Didn't like the new portafilter design so bought a refurbished Breville 54mm portafilter from eBay and removed the plastic distributor under the basket. At the same time bought the Sage Smart Grinder Pro. Buy my freshly roasted beans locally having noted that the Bambino will only make acceptable coffee from darker roasts because the constant hot water setting of 83C (?) is not suitable for lighter roasts requiring 84/85C. One should note the Bambino delivers a constant ideal pressure of 8bar by means of a modulating bypass valve arrangement. It has taken me some time to dial in the best brew grind size. For the moment for those interested I am grinding to 12 setting on the Pro, 19 gram coffee and the single wall basket. The brew infusion is 11 sec and 25 sec total time. Mostly make Latte or Capachino (with sprinkled chocolate). Finally I like the auto milk function using chilled semi cream, but use the mid point setting for both temperature and foam. Oh yeah, forgot to say I use a multi wire stirrer to prevent tunnelling and a porta filter clip on funnel to reduce spillage. Of course I also bought an electronic weigh scale which is essential but I should have got a narrower one to fit my grinder. Hope all of my rambling is of some use to those with this machine and note I am probably now at level 1 (out of 10) on my long route to barista level so excuse any mistakes. F☕️

@@kojie333 Mine came w/both ....

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glad to hear this! I think that this is the important thing to know about budget machines that nobody talks about.

awesome gift! someone loves you a lot hahaha

Thanks so much for the kind words. At the end of the day, I'm so happy to have helped! Enjoy your coffees! Also, check out our barista basics playlist on the channel. We deep dive into calibration, and this may help you if you are grinding your own coffees.

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🙏🙏🙏 glad to help. We're trying to demystify these things!

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Thanks for your kind words!

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Welcome to the beautiful hobby of home espresso

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Great! Thanks for watching and we appreciate the kind words. We also just got in a single wall basket a couple of weeks age and will be doing a comparison video soon.

Glad it was helpful! We try to be critical and look for useful points to make for the consumer. Thanks for watching.

@@HoneycombManila Totally agree, best review yet ...and gotta agree, love this machine.

This is true. I never really bought into the flair for this reason. I guess that it's really fatigue of being in specialty coffee for so long. I ran a slow bar once for 4 years. The first 18 months, we were 100% hand grinders and passive kettles. The dance of the elaborate process was fun for maybe a year, but then you eventually get over the romance and realize that it doesn't all necessarily lead to a great coffee either. Great coffee can be attained through a variety of paths.

Same here. Been using flair for a year and its great and fun but still... the proces. Was planning on going for bambino instead of pro since i already have breville smart grinder pro

yeah, it's good because there's an upgrade path that makes sense, and there will likely be a strong second hand market when you want to really move up. should be able to sell second hand for 18-20k, I think.

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So nice of you to say. Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching! So glad that this was helpful, and we'll try to keep this approachable voice as much as possible, moving forward.

Glad it was helpful! That's definitely the goal. Thank you for watching and for your feedback.

Thank you for watching!

It's a great choice, and Breville has started selling their own single wall basket for Php220. At such a cheap price, it's actually worth looking at over the VST and IMS baskets I mentioned in the video.

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that's excellent news!

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Why? I dont understand, i saw multiples review on this bambino land Bambino plus, saying that the most important thing for good espresso isnt that much the machine but the grinder and that if you get a solid grinder these 2 machine are really good!! And that They have 9 bar pressure

Btw there is hot water! you press the 1 cup + Milk froth button together

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Thanks for watching and we're so glad it was helpful!

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Welcome aboard! Thanks!

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ah, I was programming the machine for a different double shot volume from what comes programmed when the machine arrives. Different coffees will need different amounts of water for an ideal calibration. Play around with it and discover with your tastebuds! It'a a great hobby in this respect. Thanks so much for watching.

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Right on

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Let's see! I see a lot of interest in that machine, but we don't have the money to acquire too many devices at the same time. Oracle Touch is up next though.

@@HoneycombManila Awesome! Looking forward to your next reviews.

Glad it was helpful! Coffee comes from us in the tropics, so it makes sense that we excel in all aspects of it, yes? haha

@@HoneycombManila syempre naman!

Very true. Sometimes I wish this machine had an articulating steam wand, but im sure the extra articulation would lead to an extra 30% counter space to accomodate it.

enjoy the journey!

@@HoneycombManila i just made it today! You were right, it wasnt bad definitely drinkable. Thanks again for your video

it's definitely a machine for those who want espresso without turning it into too much of a hobby

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@@HoneycombManila You convinced me to buy this one. Do you have a video on what we should always to do for cleaning & maintaining the machine before and after every use? I definitely want to make sure I’m doing everything I’m suppose to do to keep the machine in good condition for 3-4 years ☺️

since you already have a grinder, you'd probably be satisfied, especially if you wanted to make milk drinks.

thanks for the information! that's so useful

Interesting. You also get a tablespoon of sugar in Starbucks?

@@HoneycombManila actually found out today after getting beans made on 7-1 that the Starbucks beans are old crap. I always assumed the dark oily beans meant fresh. The fresh beans looked liked old beans to me. The fresh beans made a much better cappuccino. I still have to add a little sugar 😁✌🏽✌🏽

I believed we used the Barista Sette for this review. Thanks for watching!

Pressurized portafilter will be perfect for you then. I'd love to see the espresso machine in your truck! send me a photo at @kayocosio on instagram if you ever get the chance.

Thank you! Will do!

Same boat here. I have a grinder and plan to use this machine with a bottomless portafilter and a single wall basket. I’m pretty sure it will work perfectly for our needs though!

cool! what grinder did you use?

thanks, Joey. I will probably get the basket in in a few weeks, but honestly, is already so much to cover in just this first "stock setup" video. Regarding the classes, I've only done one over zoom since the pandemic, and it's really difficult to do well if you can't see what your attendees are doing in terms of grind sizes, pour speed, etc. I'm still trying to figure out a good way to to do this online that's not just a set of lectures.

that's great. For home, it's really a matter of finding the right machine for your lifestyle. balancing results and pricing is so important!

Honestly, we have one already, but without a SERIOUS grinder, getting a calibrated shot with this thing is really difficult. Not so sure it really makes sense outside of the double wall, especially since the double wall performs pretty satisfactorily. Tho maybe I'll just make that video and be done with it hahaha

Yes! I think Pesado has excellent products for this. pesado.com.au/

Pesado has incredible IMS baskets at pesado.com.au/products/pesado-filter-basket-24-5-18g?variant=40122780418219 . Their shipping calculator has shipping to manila costing around Php1300 for 0-1KG. Tip: buy more than one item, and keep the total cost (sometimes including shipping) below Php10K so that you can avoid duties. Maximize that shipping fee!

Thank you! Cheers!

I've been doing 2 empty shots, and letting the second one sit in the filter for a couple mins to warm everything up. Blind steam also, but steam won't ever be lukewarm because it's got achieve heat in the first place in order to become steam in the first place.

definitely, especially on the steam system. The difference, it will be night and day.

Great insight! Yes, you are right, there's a PID, but no display readout. So it's somewhat temperature controlled and stable, but the user has no obvious control over what that temperature is. In terms of the thermoblock system being good for making multiple drinks, this is true, but there is an upper limit. We see this in our Decent DE1Pro+ as well, which uses similar no-boiler tech, as well as with the Morning Machine (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b6ipppyjtce0l6M.html). In terms of that upper limit, we honestly don't have the budget to test multiple units until breaking point, which is what a well-funded group like Consumer Reports would do, so I would highly recommend keeping it to under 5 shots an hour and under 20 shots a day. Even if the water continues to be the correct temperature, there are many other plastic or rubber parts in the system that won't manage the stress the way that the thermoblock will. In an overworked Breville Dual Boiler, these plastic or rubber parts will be the first things to fail and need replacing.

Try the Lelit Fred grinder, or even Brevilles own Smart Grinder Pro

So this is the big one. My experience is that medium roasts (to work well) require a grinder that is significantly more expensive than the bambino itself.

@@HoneycombManila I just ordered a Turin DF64 Gen2 grinder. I hope that will work. I only make 2 espresso sand 1 milk drink per day (3 people). I don't want to have to spend more money on something like a Rancilo Silvia + mods or a Profitec Go.

Thanks for watching! Yeah, we're also trying to get our hands on good single wall baskets too so that we can make a few more videos with this bad boy. Thanks for the feedback! I am actually going to be testing how the Timemore 123 go grinder (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q71iksKZr5ybdoE.html) works as a partner for this machine, with single wall or pressurized baskets.

These are Loveramics "twisted glass" cups! usa.loveramics.com/products/twisted-glass-1?_pos=1&_sid=b13da9ee7&_ss=r&variant=39449590464601 Where we are from in the Philippines, they are carried by an official distributor, El Kapitan.

Check out Pesado. They make excellent accessories that are borderline luxury in terms of finishing.

thanks!

If you like auto steam, this is probably still your best option in this price range. Stick with your setup, there's so much you can do with that!

It's possible, bit you probably have to use less coffee. This will: - restrict the shot less, faster flow rate - absorb less water - defeat any early cut off mechanism. Some electronic machines have this to keep the pump from burning out

yeah, super easy. it's not a screen, it's a literal shower. so it's very durable. you just have to use this dumb rubber blind that Breville includes!

that's a steal! you sure it's not the more budget version? should be around that price range.

@@HoneycombManila Nah it’s the Bambino Plus. I got it specifically for the automatic frothing. It was the one sticking point about my old Breville (looks like duo temp but without the magnet puck). Or maybe it is the duo temp not sure. But this is much much better even with Preground beans. I also got the Smart Grinder Pro to go with it. Loved the review btw! Very insightful!

thats relatively a very cheap price.. considering that this one is sold for around 23~25k php.. just wondering where you bought your machine?

that should work! at that price range, smart grinder pro is already one of the best options for an automatic grinder. You can also look at the DF grinders, but you can't expect much after-sales support vs a brand like Breville.

Always from when you push the button. Sometimes there's a split second interval between when the button is pressed and the pump kicks in, but you want the timer to start as close as possible to the start of contact of water to coffee.

thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

Both grinders are good, but I think viewers of the channel know I'm a die-hard Sette lover!

Thank you. I’m most likely getting the Sette 270. I like the macro adjustments available for when I want to make a pour over or areopress.

Definitely

It really does need at least one flush run of water, or it's just not good. Happy to report that we've gotten our hands on the stock breville portafilter basket and will be making a comparison video soon!

@@HoneycombManilahi. Any update on the following video?

Watch our latte art video to understand steaming milk, including technique and temperatures. Basically, it's not really about seconds, it's more about getting the heat and texture you desire. video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qa52lKtlp9O0eo0.html

Just the first time you program it. If you need to recalibrate and change the program, just repeat the process.

sorry, I'm not sure, as I've never encountered this problem. Probably best to have it looked at by your local Breville service center. You may have a clogged tube.

If you're talking about the DBM-8P1, my experience with it is that it is that it's not fine enough for espresso in general, but you may get OK results with the Bambino using a pressurized basket. Definitely not with a non-pressurized basket. It will run like a faucet.

yeah, it should be fine. we have a smart grinder pro on deck in the lab and it works great with non-pressurized baskets in general. Just note that because of the SGP's limited steps in the finer settings, you'll need to make a secondary weight adjustment in the calibration.

@@HoneycombManila what did secondary weight adjustment mean?

The answer is "it depends." What is your tap water like? Is it hard or soft? In other words, what's the minerality level of the water? You need to keep that minerality in check to keep your machine safe. When in doubt, use the filter.

@@HoneycombManila thank you so much! 🤩

This one is pretty good for the money

ah! since filming this video, we've learned that you can hold down the steam button, and hot water will be released out of the steam wand hole.

Interesting! are you sure that what you have is not the Bambino Plus' little sister, the Bambino? It sounds like it should be around that price range.

@@HoneycombManila Yes im sure - I shouldve added that I bought it on sale. Not sure if it can get that cheap in ph!

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