WotLK Classic Death Knight Guide DEEP DIVE (Leveling, Professions, Talents & Weapon Progression)

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THE ULTIMATE DEATH KNIGHT GUIDE (Leveling, Talents & Glyphs, Weapon Progression, Professions, EVERYTHING!) WoW WotLK Classic
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 Why Play Death Knight
00:01:31 Best Race for Death Knights
00:04:05 Leveling Gear for Death Knights
00:05:14 Death Knight Weapon Progression
00:09:23 Glyphs for Death Knights
00:10:05 Unholy Death Knight Glyphs
00:12:23 Unholy Death Knight Talent Progression
00:20:00 Unholy Death Knight Damage Rotation
00:22:10 Unholy Death Knight Gems
00:23:14 Unholy Death Knight Enchants
00:25:04 Unholy Death Knight Professions
00:27:09 Unholy Death Knight Consumables
00:28:23 Blood Death Knight DPS Leveling Talent Progression
00:35:21 Blood Death Knight Tank Talents
00:41:07 Blood Death Knight Ability Rotation
00:43:00 Blood Death Knight Glyphs
00:43:42 Blood Death Knight Gems
00:44:32 Blood Death Knight Enchants
00:45:15 Blood Death Knight Professions
00:46:44 Blood Death Knight Consumables
00:47:18 Frost Death Knight Talent Progression
00:56:22 Frost Death Knight Glyphs
00:57:23 Frost Death Knight Damage Rotation
00:58:28 Frost Death Knight Gems
00:59:04 Frost Death Knight Enchants
00:59:53 Frost Death Knight Professions
01:01:31 Frost Death Knight Consumables
01:02:27 Death Knight Addons
01:03:19 Death Knight Macros
01:03:56 Thank You for Watching
Death knights are easily one of the most fun classes to play because you embody an evil unholy warrior of death who can summon the dead, spread pestilence and disease, cast debilitating spells, and also be a plate-wearing juggernaut who can cleave down multiple enemies at melee range.
Death knights are a powerful new type of class - a HERO class, starting at level 55 and possessing the ability to deal not only physical damage but also shadow and frost. Not only that, but they also have self-enhancing spells like horn of winter, anti-magic shield, and many more that make them a terror to spellcasters and plate-wearing classes alike.
Not only is the class fun to play, but they are DEATHLY powerful in both PvE and PvP. With the ability to be a top-tier tank as Blood specialization, as well as a top tier in terms of damage for both Unholy and Frost specializations, you can play any way you’d like as a Death Knight.
Not only do Death Knights bring damage to a raid but they have powerful Raid-Wide Buffs such as Ebon Plague, which grants 13% increased magic damage taken on targets, AND Improved Icy Talons which grants 20% increased melee haste and your own haste by 5%.
Top it all off with the ability to equip the new LEGENDARY in Wrath of the Lich King Called Shadowmourne and there are plenty of reasons to play a death knight in wrath of the lich king.
Now that you’re convinced Death Knights are a great choice for Wrath of the Lich King, let’s talk about what is the BEST RACE for Death Knights in Wrath of the Lich King.
Best Race for Death Knight in WotLK
This question is frequently asked because any race can be a death knight in wrath of the lich king. So, you can feel as though you have chains of ice paralyzing you from making a choice. Fret not, I will cast Hand of Freedom on you and tell you which is the best for both HORDE and ALLIANCE, starting with HORDE.
For Horde from a PvE DPS standpoint - ORC is the best.
5 Expertise with axes (Which shadowmourne is)
Blood Fury doesn’t give you a healing debuff anymore, and grants attack power and spell damage.
And COMMAND gives your pets 5% increased damage, which means your ghoul, army of the dead, AND gargoyle, which is very powerful.
If you’re thinking about PvP - Your BEST bet is Blood Elf for the AOE silence/interrupt. It’s a close race depending if you want the nerfed version of will of the forsaken which only REMOVES fear sleep charm but doesn’t grant 5 seconds of immunity. Or if you want the Troll Berserking which was buffed, along with Da Voodoo Shuffle which reduces movement slows duration by 15%. Overall though, I think Blood Elf wins for PvP where an interrupt can win you the dual/arena/BG.
When it comes to ALLIANCE - for Pure PvE DPS - Dreanei is the best
The 1% spell and melee hit for you and your party will be sought after and useful. Human sword and mace specialization has been nerfed in wotlk and shadowmourne is an axe anyways. No other race has any damage boosting racials.
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@CLOSEETV
@CLOSEETV 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to add to the list that as Death Knight you start with First Aid. Its a real game changer to start with First aid for your level.
@brandonkruse6412
@brandonkruse6412 2 жыл бұрын
First Aid is usually a staple for all leveling toons, but I would honestly not worry about it as a DK as you have Death Strikes to keep yourself topped off. Save those frostweave cloths for tailoring and get you swordguard embroidery on your cloak.
@Mealwormies
@Mealwormies 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! I will definitely be using this for a guide when I play a unholy DK for WoTLK classic
@okamiseven
@okamiseven 2 жыл бұрын
Lichborne is also a great survival talent- it makes you undead, so you can heal yourself with death coil. If you bank runic power before you pop it, you can heal a huge portion of your hp bar
@matthewhelmers1426
@matthewhelmers1426 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day I'm pretty sure I had a macro I could push repeatedly to first cast Lichborne and then death coil over and over.
@brandonkruse6412
@brandonkruse6412 2 жыл бұрын
You can take Lichborne as a tank and burn your coils on self heals if you have enough threat.
@mzlsx
@mzlsx Жыл бұрын
Right now in ptr this combo does't work and people already reported it! But we never know it has been a long time maybe we just misunderstood how it works.
@Red_Spark.
@Red_Spark. Жыл бұрын
@@mzlsx that combo worked in original WOTLK 100%. You would even take Glyph of Death's Embrace to get more healing death coils out :D. With 120 runic power you could death coil yourself 5 times and have 20 RP left over.
@ffgfdg123
@ffgfdg123 Жыл бұрын
@@mzlsx you can do it in retail now i'm pretty surr
@pr1ap413
@pr1ap413 2 жыл бұрын
An entire HOUR of WotLK content from Toyhouze? Well that’s a treat! Thanks for your hard work brother
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I hope you enjoy it :)
@Ministry11337
@Ministry11337 Жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze Wandering Plague language bothers me, Ignores Target? You said it wont break CC but does it still apply damage? and if that is the case, why don't they just say will not cancel CC?
@Ghost-fe1vp
@Ghost-fe1vp Жыл бұрын
Just means the video is made really slow but most of the video is good content.
@rabmcnair4488
@rabmcnair4488 Жыл бұрын
Possibly best wow videos online mate, thanks for sharing your great work. Have liked and subscribed to support your channel.
@Majohultberg
@Majohultberg 2 жыл бұрын
ive had this video on repeat for a day now while farming honor for season 3
@simmot5213
@simmot5213 2 жыл бұрын
ill deffo be coming back to this vid for leveling my dk :D
@lisat4334
@lisat4334 Жыл бұрын
Very detailed and informative thank you!
@LikeButton7
@LikeButton7 2 жыл бұрын
Was wondering if I would see a frost tank section. Great info here. So hyped about a wrath classic.
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished making it today. Hope you enjoy!
@w8play
@w8play 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! This is the best explanation regarding this topic.
@illumstern8831
@illumstern8831 2 жыл бұрын
This might be a bit of a noobish guilty pleasure, but I absolutely LOVE the quality of life convenience that comes from Glyph of Death Grip while leveling. I would never use it at max level though, unless I was just goofing around solo.
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
That is me 100%
@v2occy809
@v2occy809 Жыл бұрын
Great Guide. Thank you. Only thing that was a bit off was the Blood DK Tank. You almost never grab Heart Strike. The point is better spent elsewhere and dont grab Blood Gorged. This allows you to move further down into frost or unholy.
@esuvii
@esuvii 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of focus on Shadowmourne here, but it's important to note that Unholy DK has a very mixed damage profile, that is less focused on melee weapon scaling than Fury or Ret. Shadowmourne comes right at the end of the expansion, and unless you have a raid that loves you there is a good chance you will not get priority on the first or even second Shadowmourne. Unholy DK looks like it's going to be a super fun class for Classic WotLK, but I think it is a mistake for anyone to pick it based on Shadowmourne. Otherwise awesome video!
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, good points. Thank you
@btecbentley829
@btecbentley829 2 жыл бұрын
In Tier 10 gear and ICC fights, a lot of your damage as Unholy is from melee hits because of Blood-Caked Blade procs from high haste. It is then followed by Scourge Strike and Death Coil. So, I would say Unholy DK gets more benefits from Shadowmourne than Ret Pala. Although it is not a game changing difference between the two classes, your guild should give it to the guy that performs the best imo.
@esuvii
@esuvii 2 жыл бұрын
@@btecbentley829 100% agree, a legendary that comes from the final Tier should probably go to a longstanding raid member who consistently puts the most effort in - vs giving it out based on where it is "best" (unless you are going for #1 speed times or something)
@btecbentley829
@btecbentley829 2 жыл бұрын
@@esuvii It's DK prio, it's Frostmourne's sister weapon ;) :P. I completely agree man, I think guilds are going to want to give it to people who they know will not leave as soon as they get it, that's why in Classic officers would get legendaries almost as a reward even though I disagree with this, but yeah Shadowmourne is a sweet axe and any melee will be happy getting it. I'm going to be rolling and maining an Unholy DK, was contemplating going Frost, but with the Gargoyle and 2H looking so damn cool I think my mind is set, we'll see :D
@Slade1135
@Slade1135 2 жыл бұрын
Shadowmourne was also less effective on Unholy for a good portion of the time because of all the +shadow damage modifiers that actually got applied to Bryntroll's on-hit effect since it was treated as a shadow damage attack originating from you (with a ludicrously low cooldown). it was more impactful for two-handed Blood or Frost.
@andreasahman5596
@andreasahman5596 Жыл бұрын
Great guide but it was abit confusing when you started with introducing glyphs for each spec before introducing the specs themselves. Probably smoother to start at the core and work outward
@samphilipp4997
@samphilipp4997 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man thanks for the simple explanations and I appreciate your time put into this👍
@robinhoodlum7180
@robinhoodlum7180 2 ай бұрын
prolly ther best dk guide ever
@BSwitchGTG
@BSwitchGTG 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, so good. I can't wait for Wrath to drop - keep the content coming!!
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Same here!
@Sucklessjitsu
@Sucklessjitsu Жыл бұрын
Paused the video at 1:58. Puns on point.
@Klaital1
@Klaital1 2 жыл бұрын
Just a note that the Crimson Cranium Crusher is a one-handed mace, not two-handed.
@spencerhamilton5510
@spencerhamilton5510 2 жыл бұрын
not sure that is right for tank, think there are some blood dk builds where you can get both abom might and imp ice talons (which might mean freeing getting a raid buff from a tank rather than a shaman(freeing air totem for other use) or frost dk). As well as litchborne, and other mitigation talents in frost. As for tanking racials: dwarf, nelf, and troll might be worth a mention.
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely fair points worth considering!
@solarwrath1313
@solarwrath1313 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, its pretty common for dk tanks to be double buff build, its rare to see one dk tank that doesn't go that way (not counting dks that are leveling or haven't started raiding yet).
@RuttingBull
@RuttingBull 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do comprehensive pvp guides for wotlk for each class?
@mehomuiki3886
@mehomuiki3886 2 жыл бұрын
This is sub worthy :D good job man
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you :D
@adamgrabowski938
@adamgrabowski938 Жыл бұрын
The best profession hands down for unholy is engineering since 340 haste enchant on hands is so crucial to snap with garg and pump damage
@wolfhc7019
@wolfhc7019 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping for a deep dive of warrior eventually since it will be my main for wrath. This was pretty good.
@FrazierHarcrow
@FrazierHarcrow 2 жыл бұрын
Play slam spec arms phase 1 fury the rest, be useless till togc /s :) but hey at least arms is fun
@dwarfminerwillie
@dwarfminerwillie 2 жыл бұрын
So you did pvp and pve dps racials, but what would be good tanking races for dk? I've heard some say that humans are bis because every man for himself works on some bosses.
@btecbentley829
@btecbentley829 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid man, like someone else mentioned it was sub worthy. I'm planning on maining Unholy DK in Wrath (definitely not for Shadowmourne o.O), however I don't know whether to pick up Mining + JC or Mining + Engi?
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, welcome to the crew! I've actually got a profession guide coming out soon, but I would say Mining + Engi. Engineering is the best in my opinion!
@lilbugsbunny3590
@lilbugsbunny3590 Жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you the tutorial, I have another question how do you combine runes as you showing 3 specials ability’s in one role ( frost / unholy / blood ) ?
@kevinmck4857
@kevinmck4857 2 жыл бұрын
Massive works !
@fredmiller906
@fredmiller906 2 жыл бұрын
You immediately lost me when you didn't take Pale Horse when you were going over the leveling portion of the video lmao.
@catclaws1847
@catclaws1847 Жыл бұрын
On a pale horse cuts leveling time its a most get. IMO its also useful for getting out in front of the pack or in ganks.
@The_Fictionist
@The_Fictionist 2 жыл бұрын
As you post refreshed versions of this getting closer to wotlk, can you address 1H weapon progression for anyone leveling as frost dual wield?
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
I can look into it!
@nathannobles3525
@nathannobles3525 2 жыл бұрын
Anyway you could possibly go more in depth into a blood dps build? I know it’s a bit of a meme but could still be a fun niche for peeps running in 10 mans. Great video by the way!
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah sorry I didn't say too much about it. The level DK talent build is as far as a went. I think you could use that talent/glyph setup and do well though!
@ivansuto7715
@ivansuto7715 2 жыл бұрын
I think this guy makes very good content
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! :)
@drakeushellblade1786
@drakeushellblade1786 2 жыл бұрын
hope you make up a bis list for each phase
@XxLyrokxX98
@XxLyrokxX98 2 жыл бұрын
22:25 Also about the meta gem , again considering the amout of stats and gear you will have during your pogression from t7 to t10 the meta gem : Thundering Skyflare Diamond will net you with alot more of a dps gain than +21 Critical Strike and 3% Increased Critical Damage . Especially for your Garg to snapshot the 480 haste buff during the 4 sec uptime and 45 Iternal CD its going to be a big big dps increases not to mention that you yourself + your ghoul benefit of Haste so much already . on addition to that it enables you to gem strictly Strength + Nightmare tear gem if you are already hit capped , with the meta gem you are recommending you would be forced to use 2 blue gems or 1 nightmare tear + 1 blue gem which results in less Strength overall and weird gemming gear pieces wise.
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@user-de9su5ko7x
@user-de9su5ko7x Жыл бұрын
Метагем активируеться на 6 секунд.Топ расса для Анхоли ДК Тролль изза берсерка и бурста Горгульи со всеми вытекающими.
@hesketh7085
@hesketh7085 Жыл бұрын
Toyhouze does your 'ultimate' guide replace this one? It being 6 months later etc. Thanks.
@maxdart
@maxdart 2 жыл бұрын
what private server would you recommend before wotlk classic is released?
@brandonkruse6412
@brandonkruse6412 2 жыл бұрын
I would highly recommend going dual-wield Unholy while leveling and all the way through Wrath to ICC. The build plays quite differently and focuses more on disease and auto attacks, dropping Scourge Strike, which is very weak until endgame. Glyph of the Ghoul and DnD are pretty much staples until ICC gearing.
@videos8159
@videos8159 2 жыл бұрын
Can‘t wait to level my heal druide when wotlk launches. He is 61 at the moment right now. There will so damn many dks that will tank my dungeon
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
True that man, you will be in demand for sure!
@Deezeynuts
@Deezeynuts Жыл бұрын
Well you confused me, at 35:00, in the final build for blood dps, you have vampiric blood picked as a major glyph, BUT in the build, you don't actually take vampiric blood talent. What's up with that? Was scratching my head on that for awhile, thought i missed something LOL, or maybe I did :)
@stansilvestrov3106
@stansilvestrov3106 2 жыл бұрын
good guide for Unholy. For raids id swap Morbidity for Reraping, getting that one extra Scourge strike is a BIG DPS increase, also Glyph of the ghoul > Glyph of Disease. Morbidity is better for clearing dungeons tho.
@95thorshammer
@95thorshammer 2 жыл бұрын
GoG isn't better unless you are going ghoul Frenzy spec
@stansilvestrov3106
@stansilvestrov3106 2 жыл бұрын
@@95thorshammer if you have claw macro in everything and spam it on CD its better.
@Rimkriger1
@Rimkriger1 Жыл бұрын
You seem to have forgotten the craftable 2h. lvl 200 mace wich all will get: Titansteel destroyer. Purple and it will last along time. Other then that, nice video :)
@MyAmazingUsername
@MyAmazingUsername Жыл бұрын
Howling Fjord has Cragthumper extremely early, a 2H Mace with close-enough stats to the Axe of Frozen Death. Far easier to get. And has 91 stamina which means DK tank weapon too, baby!
@F1rURules
@F1rURules 2 жыл бұрын
Are Unholy good for single target dps? For example a Boss without ads.
@bleachberad2744
@bleachberad2744 2 жыл бұрын
So in the race section you talk about pvp and DPS, whats the best race for Horde PVE TANK please let me know your thoughts. Orc? Tauren?
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd say Tauren. Even though the extra health isn't a lot since it's nerfed, extra health helps DK more than any other tank because all self-heals are a % of max health. Therefore stacking stamina & the tauren racial not only makes you live longer, but increases your self healing dramatically.
@FantasyPiano317
@FantasyPiano317 2 жыл бұрын
Im new to Wrath Deathknight, but id love to tank whenever classic wrath comes out :).. why wont you use Rune Tap as a talent when tanking? cheers man and keep on with your great work!
@dillon3955
@dillon3955 2 жыл бұрын
You should use it. This is a very medicore guide for blood tank.
@kaddiloc1
@kaddiloc1 Жыл бұрын
So why do we use super strain? I found a build where I can get it in the tree. Does it stack? I'm brand spanking new to BDK so I really don't know.
@monkeyddizze
@monkeyddizze 2 жыл бұрын
Do you not play frost tank specc when lvling?
@christopheheim3275
@christopheheim3275 Жыл бұрын
Remember! Never use your last blood rune when your diseases are about to expire, we don’t want those falling off! 😜
@burtmacklin6443
@burtmacklin6443 2 жыл бұрын
8:01 Crimson Cranium Crusher is a one handed mace, unless that item image is wrong.
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
You're right :)
@thejokerclownprinceofcrime974
@thejokerclownprinceofcrime974 Жыл бұрын
as a orc dk on a pale horse stun part and orc stun time racial ..seems good for pvp tho
@teddys5775
@teddys5775 2 жыл бұрын
Does frost damage effect frost abilities? I’ve heard it’s not good to spec into sp at all but do you know if it has any effect at all. I’m ive heard there’s 3 abilities that will scale at 50% for frost damage
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it should affect it but you're right, you definitely shouldn't aim for gear with spell power.
@teddys5775
@teddys5775 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze I’ve got two freezing bands I couldn’t sell. Having never played a dk I thought I’d throw them on for a little frost spec DK memeing and see what happens
@ninjahawk6434
@ninjahawk6434 Жыл бұрын
I was misled by the title that this is a starting rotation for a beginner. Nope, my Unholy DK at 58 doesn't have all the icon abilities you suggested.
@Boneheaded0
@Boneheaded0 Жыл бұрын
How is anyone this stupid???
@johng2794
@johng2794 2 жыл бұрын
orc is clearly the best choice for pvp too at horde side....
@rasmuseriksson8187
@rasmuseriksson8187 2 жыл бұрын
Why use glyph of vampiric blood in blood leveling spec if you dont pick the talent? :D
@nedbear1970
@nedbear1970 Жыл бұрын
Orc is by far best race for pvp on horde and human as ally
@nicomilord
@nicomilord 2 жыл бұрын
quality content tho, I always play Dk in wow. recently replaying wotlk on warmane before blizz release its own wotlk.
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@richardbuckeridge5864
@richardbuckeridge5864 2 жыл бұрын
with regards to pve race selection, you forgot that dwarf stone form grants bonus armor, and theres a talent that gives you bonus AP from armor thus making stoneform a dps cd
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh you're right! Nice call out!
@jaredtandle2596
@jaredtandle2596 Жыл бұрын
So mining and BS then drop mining when you feel comfortable with your gems amount?
@95thorshammer
@95thorshammer 2 жыл бұрын
To all who are saying glyph of icy touch over glyph of disease that is almost never realistically the case. In almost every encounter in icc reaping, disease, and mcp opener will always be the highest possible dps for unholy.
@95thorshammer
@95thorshammer 2 жыл бұрын
That being said blood past 1260 arp at the same gear level will pull higher single target numbers, and frost on fights in the 2:15-2:30 range will be equatable to both.
@alexmavro9581
@alexmavro9581 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea if realm transfer will be possible in wotlk classic?
@CorrectSK
@CorrectSK 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the comments here touch on things for debate but one thing that’s spoken about a lot in this video is Shadowmourne. The majority of Horde players will probably want to go Troll for PVE because up until getting Shadowmourne unless you go DW will be 2H Swords and Maces. Shadowmourne takes a long time to get and you also gotta take into account how long it’ll take before ICC even comes out. Troll berserking especially now that it’s buffed will be the better bet for the majority of death knights on Horde. For Wrath to be a real success they’ll have to gate content just as long as they did for the t6 wait in TBC. Otherwise the whole expansion will be cleared within a year since alot of the content is miles easier than TBC besides Hardmode Ulduar. The best bet would be increasing health pools and damage/shortened enrage timers for the challenge staying relevant even for farming content and letting people take breaks when they want to. Blizzlike wrath numbers are far too easy and if they don’t have a different approach to what they did with TBC and Vanilla classic people will just fully quit instead of taking breaks and coming back when they want. So if blizzard implements buffed raid content and 5 man content, you’ll keep the diehard casual wrath fans engaged while the try hards can come back whenever they want after progressing without sacrificing difficulty.
@Wyrime
@Wyrime 2 жыл бұрын
Dont you think that in Wotlk the tanking meta will be similar to what we see in TBC, aka PvP gear for crit immune, and a way more threat oriented build ?
@Dagnar1478
@Dagnar1478 2 жыл бұрын
Threat is almost entirely a non issue in wrath and people will pop CDs right on the pull in many cases which says just how stupid it is.
@XxLyrokxX98
@XxLyrokxX98 2 жыл бұрын
26:40 You said it yourself , Engi gives you a real nice way to buff your Garg and snapshot it 340 haste every 1 min and every 2 min with Orc Racial is such a big and reliable dps increase not to mention the mobility of Nitro boots that is on some fights crucial for PvE : getting 2 extra gem sockets with Blacksmithing is not worth it especially if you see it of a Pogression standpoint you would not even get the epic 20+str gems but instead 16+ str gems till t9 content. Jewelcrafting is indeed your bis choice also since even as early as T7 content you are able to get those +34 Str Gems.
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't I say JC + Engineering is really good in the video?
@XxLyrokxX98
@XxLyrokxX98 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze You said JC+BS is BIS and JC+ Engi is close 2nd which issnt true at all especially for Unholy dk
@TheOneTrueOfficialLordGod
@TheOneTrueOfficialLordGod 2 жыл бұрын
So I realize its not a good idea to stack spell power on a Death Knight But say I wanted to make a meme corpse explosion build, what stat does it scale off of? Attack power, strength, intellect, spell power or shadow power?
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
I think spell power / shadow damage
@TheOneTrueOfficialLordGod
@TheOneTrueOfficialLordGod 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze You have done me a great service. I shall become the corpse explosion king.
@shdwfxgamerz7667
@shdwfxgamerz7667 Жыл бұрын
Is duel wielding as a blood dk viable ?
@georgelyons7828
@georgelyons7828 Жыл бұрын
troll is actually bis for horde (for unholy)
@Barce1023
@Barce1023 2 жыл бұрын
So 2h Frost is pretty good? I want to go frost but not into two 1 handers, I want a big beefy boi weapon.
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely can go 2H frost!
@chrisk1255
@chrisk1255 5 ай бұрын
Me: so, which of the DK specs is the best? Fellow DK guildy: yes...
@naturalorganic5552
@naturalorganic5552 2 жыл бұрын
so for lvling frost blood or unholy? .... :D
@TwerkensteinGaming
@TwerkensteinGaming 2 жыл бұрын
is 3.3.5 before or after they changed blood to tank I use to be a blood dps and was hoping to do that again
@Basih
@Basih 2 жыл бұрын
All specs can dps in wrath. Your role is based on what presence you use. Cataclysm is when blood became the sole tank spec.
@quin6000
@quin6000 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the dps difference between orc/troll vs blood elf?
@irthrones9021
@irthrones9021 Жыл бұрын
Hi I Need dps DK , unholy or blood talent ?
@carelesscribo3072
@carelesscribo3072 Жыл бұрын
Good video . Far surpasses metagarblins
@justinroark6409
@justinroark6409 Жыл бұрын
No one handed weapons? What about frost dks?
@jacovanderschaaf3044
@jacovanderschaaf3044 Жыл бұрын
i do remeber back on the early days of wotlk, that frost was tanking, and blood was dps, did wow change this? or and also seen tanking dk duelwielding?
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze Жыл бұрын
Frost can tank. Blood is just considered best
@jacovanderschaaf3044
@jacovanderschaaf3044 Жыл бұрын
What about duelwielding tanks? I just remebered few things on the early days of wotlk like the frost tank and the tank having duelwielding weapons instead of having a 2h.
@jacovanderschaaf3044
@jacovanderschaaf3044 Жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze what about duelwield instead of a 2h? i remeber duelwielding as blood, frost presence tank, and was keeping very good aggro of the fast swings instead on the 3,70 dmg per sec
@slackerZ1
@slackerZ1 2 жыл бұрын
What if they gave us dks in the pre patch in their launch state for leveling.
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
That would be amazing
@gilbert4795
@gilbert4795 2 жыл бұрын
I think glyph of disease is a bad idea because 1ss + pestilence = IT + PS So you it means you should use less BS wich is damage loss
@fischerderheld4407
@fischerderheld4407 Жыл бұрын
before talking about glyphs you should talk about spells and talents^^
@Wildmike95
@Wildmike95 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't they said they will give change Every man for Himself for Will to Survive?
@LaFlamer
@LaFlamer 2 жыл бұрын
The misplaced point in frost is Lichborne. Few people will ever need lichborne as a DPS frost DK for most of the content. The build presented generally is a great later game build for IIC once your stats are high enough to warrant going sub Unholy. But in the beginning tiers of content, frost DW DKs will likely be sub-blood spec, as the crit, runic power gen, and bladed armor will be very very strong.
@Pizza_Box
@Pizza_Box 2 жыл бұрын
So frost has an easier rotation than unholy? Im a newer player. Any dumbed down advice is very welcome :)
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say Frost has a harder rotation IMO
@Korpce
@Korpce Жыл бұрын
What about Dual wield tank?
@quin6000
@quin6000 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know a rough dps % difference between choosing blood elf vs orc/troll for unholy dk?
@bradbarian7759
@bradbarian7759 2 жыл бұрын
Like less than 1%. Pick whatever race you want
@jespertorpenholt4294
@jespertorpenholt4294 2 жыл бұрын
You make some good videos . But is it not abit early for guide to wotlk .when it is not even close too come out. Keep up the good work mate
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah made this one too early, but I really wanted to deep dive into DK :)
@XxLyrokxX98
@XxLyrokxX98 2 жыл бұрын
22:15 that part is up to debate but on simply single target you would always gem and find gear pieces with Haster over Crit the reason is your Garg, your Auto attacks + talents points and Ghoul all benefit of Haste , even your Death coil's gcd benefits of it , crit is also a good stat but besides that rng factor haste on a longer fight will net you with a dps gain especially on Single Target
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@XxLyrokxX98
@XxLyrokxX98 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze np
@vlaiden05
@vlaiden05 2 жыл бұрын
is the blood dk best lvl-ling tree overall?
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Since we're getting patch 3.3.5, if you are planning to farm dungeons as a tank, blood is perfect for that. Otherwise, I would go Unholy for leveling. You can still tank as unholy while leveling too - just turn on frost presence.
@DomWarfield
@DomWarfield 2 жыл бұрын
Is Blood tanking hard? Never been a tank before in my WoW career, but really want to play Blood
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so! You should go for it!
@mikkelmv3991
@mikkelmv3991 Жыл бұрын
You know, i dont agree with like how blood DPS dont have vampic blood:D ita single talent for a great utility. but great guide :D
@dmysavage5087
@dmysavage5087 2 жыл бұрын
When do we use howling blast?
@Texinga
@Texinga 2 жыл бұрын
It's a priority list moreso than rotation: 1) Pestilience+Blood Strike (to refresh diseases) 2) Obliterate 3) Killing Machine (Frost Strike) 4) Frost Strike above 70 RP 5) Rime (Howling Blast) Following this, you do settle into a rotation eventually: 1) Pestilience+Blood Strike, 2x Obliterate 2) 3xObliterate But you still have to weave KM, FS, and Rime in where you can. You never want to use KM on Howling Blast unless there's multiple targets. Toy is incorrect that you always want to hold a Blood Rune, you want to use both Blood Runes together to create Death Runes and get a 3x Obliterate the next time runes are up. Runes refresh every 10s and diseases last 21s, so you only have a 1 sec window to refresh every cycle, but this is very manageable and around a 10% dps increase when done properly. If they fall off, IT/PS replace the Obliterate that you just gained from Death Rune activation. So even if you IT/PS every rotation, the rotation is still better than holding onto a Blood Rune.
@brandoncastellano1858
@brandoncastellano1858 2 жыл бұрын
What about rune tap? Skipped over that in the blood section.
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
You could get that talent. I've heard from blood tanks it's really only like getting 1 extra heal from a healer and not worth the 1 frost rune, but you might find it useful in some situations.
@brandoncastellano1858
@brandoncastellano1858 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze oh really? That’s a little sad to hear. Between it being fully improved plus the glyph it looks like the best thing since sliced bread. Mained a DK from Wrath to Legion (gave up on retail during BFA, classic came out and poof). My memory is a bit fuzzy. I want to try unholy tanking again. Even if it’s just for heroics/naxx. Found you recently and I’m going to subscribe. I need more info on the game I remember enjoying. I’m not 9 anymore. I want to be amazing.
@95thorshammer
@95thorshammer 2 жыл бұрын
That blood tanking spec is... Rough to say the least. If anyone is looking towards blood tanking in wrath please looks towards rugz's videos.
@FarkasfaROCK
@FarkasfaROCK 2 жыл бұрын
I would recomand taking glyph of ghoul instead disease it boost your ghoul dmg and puting up dots manualy will make your wondering plague proc most often due his hidden 1 sec cd, if u refresh your dots with pestilence it gona make your dots tic in same time so your wondering plague cant proc on both of your dots. On single target like this u gona pull much more dmg. Ppl mostly argue with that saying but u win a gcd and a scourge strike with disease glyph, well not rly, u gona have a gap after ur rotation with that method also a icy touch plague strike blood strike will do as much or even more dmg then your scourge strike pestilence, nice guide btw cheers
@FrazierHarcrow
@FrazierHarcrow 2 жыл бұрын
This. Do NOT take glhyph of disease as unholy it's bad
@Kartoffelbroetchen
@Kartoffelbroetchen 2 жыл бұрын
You might wanna revise the tank tree, I've tanked 2 years as Pala / DK on Wrath and I played both Frost tank for early dungeon farming, Hybrid blood with imp icy talons and I played a little bit of blood dps for the memes. For tanking I definitly recommend the Improved Icy Talons build
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Usually other DKs will bring Improved Icy Talons to the raid, but if no one else has it, definitely.
@Kartoffelbroetchen
@Kartoffelbroetchen 2 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze It's also about kick not costing runic power anymore and some other stuff
@joehelland1635
@joehelland1635 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing outperforms blood dk aoe threat gen.
@morganpowell2087
@morganpowell2087 2 жыл бұрын
i been playing warmane : unholy good starting damage higher than frost as you need good amount of armour pent as frost but in late game frost is better better than unholy but if u get frostmourne then unholy better frost.
@doncorleone1720
@doncorleone1720 2 жыл бұрын
Frost is better early unholy late
@XxLyrokxX98
@XxLyrokxX98 2 жыл бұрын
1:01:30 this would be true if you would be bis gear and not spec into the blood tree as your sub spec early of the expansion, but if you do and I hope for the most of the people reading this will do you would instead opt to the Indestructible Potion that grant you 3500 armor for 2 min it works really well with the Talent Tree : Bladed Armor in the blood tree wich you should definitely pick up since it gives you alot of attackpower which again benefts all your hard hitting spells like Obliterate and Frostrike which a Potion of Speed doesnt do for example. Also Umbreakable Armor grants you more Strength since it also increases your Armor by 25% or 20% depending which patch or spell we get when classic wotlk hits.
@Toyhouze
@Toyhouze 2 жыл бұрын
Sure man fair points
@nicomilord
@nicomilord 2 жыл бұрын
glyph of icy touch better than glyph of disease tho.
@Sithari66
@Sithari66 Жыл бұрын
No one handed swords?
@vladimirthompson3991
@vladimirthompson3991 2 жыл бұрын
Thought blood spec was dps in wotlk???
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