The creator of cars: bro i just wanted to entertain kids not make logic💀

The reason lightning mcqueen didnt upgrade himself or his engine, is because the type of racing lightning partakes in is stock car racing, meaning if he upgraded his engine or added performance parts he's no longer stock and therefore could not participate in the races.

TBH, the only way for Jackson Storm to be humbled is for him to have a similar experience to Lightning's from the 1st movie. Maybe have his career take a downturn after a false accusation-based scandal, that way, while Lightning, Sally and Mater look into the matter on the pleas of Cruz, she invites Jackson to stay at Radiator Springs for a while till the backlash dies down. There, he loses the attitude, starts making friends and embracing some old ways, maybe even gets himself a repaint. Rather than the town just teaching him, however, Storm also shows his best side by helping the town modernize a bit.

I honestly think it sucks they made Storm a stereotypical douche. I think he would have been a more interesting character if he were a nice guy, who is just part of this next generation of racers taking over. Make time the real enemy of Lightning's story.

We see that Storm and the Next Gens took over the racing league. Storm's winning streak is so huge and he became the first rookie to win the Piston Cup in his first season and became rookie of that year. Later on, he attempted to make record breaking top speeds and his top speed is 214 mph which would make him unbeatable. Even though Lightning is older, he may not be as fast as Storm, but he can be smarter than Storm, just like what Smokey said.

I always thought about it like basketball, The newer generation grows up watching the older generation and are implementing pro skills at a young age and becoming more comfortable and advancing those skills for years as a kid.

I believe that cars like humans have their prime time. Lightning had that time for quite a bit. Besides he did what was best in the third movie. Giving Cruz the chance to become a racer!

Im honestly just very glad you included the Planes movies, Istg its like everyone forgot that ever existed

As an engineer I can tell you this: the biggest problem with upgrading old cars is compromise with their identity. For example lets take the Golf GTI, it was one of the first compact sportscars ever manufactured. To keep up with modern day compact cars u could swap Engines and stuff... but the space is limited. You could just grow the frame by changing the chassis and body, but by doing that it will loose its identity, that can't be called a Golf anymore. This happened to many cars that came from tuning lines and not from the Manufacturers themselves. Shelby made some models where they remade the body and the car had a new Identity. Mercedes AMG borders that philosophy as well.

These movies are the kind of thing where you really don't wish going in depth, because prize for returning will be more questions then at it's start. Anyone else feels this way or i'm just fully hot air?

your theory reminds me of the 2005 film Robots. Robots start out as baby models then “grow up” by installing new parts Edit: thanks for all the likes

Just like every athlete in life people get old and eventually retire

I think that just like humans cars have their prime and by cars 3 lightning was a legend much like the King was on the First film. The logic conclusion for his story was shown: become a mentor for a Future legend.

One of the things I have a hard time keeping in mind is that at this point it's implied that lighting is as old as the king was in cars 1. also Storm reminds we of how arrogant lighting was before radiator springs. the only difference is that storm knows the value of teamwork and is alot more passive aggressive

My running theory for as to why he didn’t upgrade is because obviously the racing he’s in is their version of NASCAR which carries a list of regulations for the cars. Because he’s not a next-gen model car, he has to follow the regulations of his veteran class. Therefore he cannot simply be upgraded because it’s against the rules. My other theory being plot.

I always wonder why Lightning didn’t improve to beat Storm, he even had experience.🤔

I love how he says that McQueen is prob just too old to drive competitively anymore. But decides to go deeper and find the real reason, just for him to say he’s too old

Fun Fact: Some of the Racers from Cars 1 appear again in Cars 3 as veterans with different models, while still being the same racer. An example is Spare Mint Racer Ernie Gearson, who appears in Cars 1 as a 70s-80s body model racer, but appears again in Cars 3 with a more rounded body that is completely different to his old one. How this fits into the theory I don’t know. I think how it works is that Stock Cars can upgrade to other Stock Cars models, but can not upgrade to next gens due to vast mechanical distances. Why the lemons can’t upgrade while these racers could, inconsistent writing ig 🤷.

Fun how I just rewatched Car 1,2,3 just now

This is something i wonder ever time i watch cars 3. Wasn't it also becuase lighting started to overthink racing when it came to new gen racers appearing on the scene especially when Jackson Storm arrived? Its like smoky said, its funny what a racer can do when he isn't overthinking things, and lighting even nearly beat cruz during training with smokys techniques.

I honestly think this works, even though the Cars movies were never intended to have any logic behind them lol. Cars must stay in their adult frame, but they can modify that frame to fit certain jobs, it just cannot change shape much, or have newer/incompatible technology added. Like you said, Mator has had every different look and car parts added, in the book, but his main body shape never changed(Even when he got the shapeshifting thing in Cars 2 but that was just holograms). Closest we got was the American Spy, being able to change himself from the blue sports car(I don’t know cars, so he may not have been one) into looking like a lemon car, but its clear he had a shell climb over his body to change how it looked on the outside(as his transformations was different to Finns and Mators). Another is Dusty Crophopper had his whole body overhauled, twice, but his frame stayed the same. He had his wings traded out for better ones, he got landing gear that could be raised and lowered, his propellor changed, he had his wings swapped again, he had a water/retardant tank added on, he had pontoons added, which shifted his landing gear. But his main body shape never changed. Even Harvey and Winnie(the two RVs from Planes Fire and Rescue) talk about different jobs they had when they were younger. Harvey was a taco truck before he was an RV, and Winnie mentions being half a ton lighter when she and Harvey met.

McQueen only needed 10 percent less drag coefficient, 16 MPH more, less drag and more aerodynamics and needs to have the optimal race line and exploit the numbers to beat Storm.

The world-building in ROBOTS make more sense than the Cars/Planes world....

Speaking of Lightning McQueen, do you still plan on doing a full backstory on him at some point?

Don’t forget that Mack said “thank the manufacturer, you’re alive!” In the first cars movie when they found McQueen

Isaac is over here solving one of life’s biggest mysteries, good job Carlson😉😁

"Why didn't McQueen get upgrades to help his aging tech?" You want Lightning McQueen to take the kid-friendly steroids for cars?

I think it’s important to acknowledge the parallels to actual racing, not only NASCAR but things like F1 and Indy also. Generations of racers come and go, quick on their day, but when the new blood comes in and their age starts to show, eventually they have to hang it up because the sport outgrows them regardless of their legendary status. Motorsports always evolve also. NASCAR today sure isn’t the same as it was two decades ago nor F1 was the same then as it is now. New technology and ideas also play a role. When Michael Schumacher came into F1, he brought with him a training regimen that wasn’t very practiced by the elder racers of his time. In the 50s, anyone could race. But by the 90s and now the 2000s, you have to be in peak shape to endure the conditions and forces that comes with racing. Age plays a role too but drivers like Fernando Alonso show that fitness and the will to keep going is key even when you keep racing past your “prime” (42 years old in a sport averaged by 20-30 year old racers).

Theory idea when shrek goes into the alternate timeline in shrek forever after what happened to fairy godmother. Does she just go about business as normal? Does rumple make her disappear in a different way than in shrek Two, or does she disappear because there's a lack of hope, faith, and nonbelief?

“Cartholicism” “Eastern Carthodoxy” “Cartestant”

I think Lighting couldn't beat Storm was because of his psychological issues more than physical issues. When Storm beat him for the first time, his cofidence was affected. Storm's ironies, friends' retirements, and media framing just made it worst. He tried too hard to improve that he can still win just made him had that terrible accident, at the moment, the cofidence he used to have was died out.

So they are sort of like hyper advanced arthropods. Like it's a different level of hermit crab. Like they can grow bigger. But at some point it's just not practical or necessary and obviously it is incredibly difficult to grow smaller.

Technically in Cars 2,Lighting McQueen was a *next gen* racer,with a more simplified and quicker Engine,Also instead of the spoiler that the older generation of nascars have,lighting has a flat and modified spoiler in cars 2,so he could of been a next gen racer,it’s just for some reason,they changed him back to his original design

upgrades are indeed possible we see how the tuner cars seemed to be running mods, especially Snot Rod fitted with a huge supercharger

It seems like the "Assembly Line" might be the equivalent of a "Birthing Unit" at a hospital. So think of it as like "Car Healthcare". This also lends itself to both the idea of mechanical repair and the limitation of parts. There's a reason there are waiting lists for organ replacements, it's because there are a limited number of organs that are donated per year. Likewise, there may be limited numbers of parts that can be used for repair.

Wish Theory: Chernabog was King Magnifico's Teacher.

Well it's just like real life motorsport - pilots of each generation become more and more precise, mastering and improving on techniques that the generation before them discovered. Storm took McQueen philosophy of "i am speed" and improved upon it with the latest that was on the market for his generation. Irl we had that same thing happening even in F1. There was a time when the older drivers refused to train in a simulator, because they didn't believe it was of any use. Nowdays we know they all spend A TON of time there and in sim-racing to keep their skills sharp. But back to the movie - i think they got too hung on the plot of Lightning becoming the master than the racer himself. I am sure if he spent time in the simulator and perfected his driving, he would've been a good competition to Storm. We see this in the technology center where the new recruitments were training. They were on the treadmills doing 186mph, while we saw multiple times Lightning had no trouble going 194mph. He has the speed to rival the new generation, he simply lacked the technique and focus needed to use it on the track. His driving was enough for the old generation where he was told he had talent is spades, but with the new generation, raw talent would only get him this far. Yes, the technology plaid some role into that, but even if Lightning had upgraded himself with a more powerful engine and some aero, he lacked the experience of racing with that kind of gear. There is always a learning curve and he simply was behind the new generation.

The important thing to learn from this video is that whether you're a vehicle or a human time will be your enemy, and it'll make you old and obsolete when life goes on.

Well what about Francesco? He is still 221MPH as far as I remember in Cars 2, and if Cars 4 is really confirmed by Pixar then they better do right this time. I want to see Cruz and Jackson Storm come back but who knows XD Edit: I do believe in your theory. Technology has been changing for decades and it could only be chosen and maybe Lightning didn't want to change into a new body or "metal" per say. Who knows but I really liked this video. Thanks Issac! :D

When you look at Doc Hudson, Lightning McQueen and Jackson Storm's racing careers, it's pretty much history repeating itself

imagine the depression of being a train in this universe

11:45 😂😂😂 The way he looks

Thankfully Cars 3 Driven to Win has McQueen beating Cruz and Jackson Storm in the finale regardless of who you play as 🙏

There's an old classically animated cartoon (I think it was produced in the 60's or 70's - and I saw it on Cartoon Network back the late 90's) that is aesthetically the same style as cars (windshield are eyes, etc.). Quick synopsis: It was about a family of cars with the Dad encouraging his son to follow in his footsteps (or would that be tire tracks) and become a livery cab/taxi. The kid has other aspirations (he wants to become a race-car and compete in the local derby) and get's tricked out as a hot rod - new body, new engine - the whole nine. He's punished for it and despondent tries to run away from home. The dad tries to chase him but the son is too fast. The dad struggling to keep up overheats and ends up stuck at an intersection with an oncoming train. The kid circles back and helps his dad off the tracks but gets hit instead. Thankfully the kid recovers and he and his family reconcile - he adopts his family profession and reverts his body back to that of a taxi...but he keeps the supped up engine. When Pixar's Cars was released the style was instantly recognizable. So assuming it follows the lore established by that cartoon, then reproduction is possible...just don't ask me the mechanics of it.

Hey Issac can you at any point discuss the Disney Multiverse? Because with the upcoming Disney Jr Ariel series I think it’s something in the Disney fandom that needs to be addressed and explored similar to your explanation on Cinderella 2 & 3.

In "Cars 3," Lightning McQueen couldn't beat Jackson Storm initially because Storm represented the next generation of racing, equipped with cutting-edge technology and a sleek design that gave him a significant speed advantage. McQueen, while talented and experienced, was struggling to keep up with Storm's speed and agility. Additionally, McQueen was facing doubts and insecurities about his own abilities as he aged and saw newer, faster cars like Storm dominating the racing scene. It wasn't until McQueen embraced new training methods, learned from other racers, and tapped into his own strengths and experience that he was able to compete with Storm on equal footing. So, it wasn't just about raw speed but also about adapting to change, overcoming self-doubt, and finding new ways to compete effectively in a rapidly evolving racing world.

This kind of seems like lighting needed to figure out how to push himself like the king it was said the king knew how to push still knowing how keep first in his race against the new gen of his time (I know this doesn’t really go with the video) But lighting should have asked the king how he pushed himself to win against the new gen

Tbh the worlds of Cars is confusing. Like: how are cars born? how do cars die? is there kids cars? Why do cars need to eat? can they drink anything else? can a car age? whats insides a car like? and whats their organs? AHHHH!!! SO MANY QUESTIONS!!! 🫨

I think Lighting could beat Storm after all but he didnt want beacuse of cruz.Anyway im so excited beacuse you make Cars videos keep up good work bro

Upgrades aren’t even an unprecedented idea because of the movie Planes. It would have been very interesting to see what an “upgraded” lightning looked like

Lightning in his prime had a top speed of 230 mph and he reached 225 mph against Francesco, this was when he was equipped for then World Grand Prix. Rookie McQueens stats were much better in acceleration and top speed. Lightnings real issue was simply his age and the fact that he never had any upgrades aside from the WGP.

0:48 All of this isn’t needed the only reason He couldn’t beat Jackson Storm was because of plot In cars 2 the movie before cars 3 Lighting MacQueen was going top speed 225-230 they nerfed him by 35 mphs.

I know those who could take the challenge of being the All known and proclaimed "Jackson Storm".

similar to how lewis hamilton has 7 cups and has experience still struggles to win against verstappen

All of this can be just explained with their names. In the first film, he made a joke to Thunder and saying that it always comes after "lightning" ca-chow.. but Storm is the forefront of the storm, storm will bring the lightning.

Good job trying to bring logic to this film series. Now do you story on how they come to life and dir

I watched Cars 3 in the summer of 2017 (I think) and I feel like Lightning couldn't beat Storm because Storm was new car coming from a training "car training camp" for rookies to train with the top car trainers and Lightning couldn't keep up because of the training that Storm had at the "car training camp."

Well, one thing's for sure: With seven Piston Cups, here's tied with #43 #3 #48

This type of high quality content is why I love KZfaq So much

Cars in an amazing franchise! Thanks For this isaac! 🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗

It's always good to see one of your videos they're incredible and fantastic, Isaac you're the greatest ❤️😊 keep going this way 😍🤩 your explanations are very accurate 💯

I dont think the creators of cars expected anyone to analyze it this deeply

I believe in accordance to the Pixar theory everything that happens in the Cars movies are the same thing that happened in the humans time

Easy,"old cars go slow, new cars are fast". It's not even exactly like rocket science people! Anyone else wonders what this channel could've become if pixar didn't blew up like it has? Just wondering.

My guess, Jackson was cheating

This is probably the only movie that i still haven't changed my opinion on since my childhood. I don't really care about Cruz, she just appeared out of nowhere and took over Storm's position instantly, there was practically no actual buildup, so everything just seemed forced, there was no actual reason behind it. I would have liked if it was someone who already had a good past in the racing career, someone that was already building up a name not some random fan that was a instrunctor for machinery, not even an actual racer

Jackson storm sounds like an ev when he first pulls along lightning

Before he became a better racer neither he and his late mentor are modified of major enhanments McQueen's speed is 198 which isn't fast enough to catch storm storm's speed is 214 A new generation of racers arrived in the racing world as the veterans got replaced and McQueen feared being left on the sidelines that got him involved in a wreck Smokey explained McQueen can't be fast as storm but smarter than him and found new purpose of becoming a mentor as Cruz improved her capabilities carrying on the legendary racers before her🏁🏆

Love your videos isaac❤❤❤❤❤

You might also think of them as like a computer CPU, you can always upgrade your motherboard and graphics card and even your case, but at some point the new parts just aren't compatible if you were born with a Socket LGA1150 you cannot use upgrades with a Socket LGA1700.

You missed the fact that some of the veteran racers from cars 3 were actually the same people in the original (eg Murray Clutchburn) Cars so therefore they were able to change not only their shape and transform into newer gen models

We need answers!!

He is simply a more powerful car 😭

Bro imagine if he just turns into a c8

I'd like to think all that Mater upgrade thing was just animators having fun

Jackson had plot armor.

This is how overthinking looks like

Always wondered why lightning just didn't replace his engine. And if possible, be rebuilt using the lighter materials the next gen racers were using.

Not only is there a pope in the car’s universe… but theres ALSO a pope mobile which has its OWN historical implications

My theory is crazy modification like that are not allowed in the NASCAR racing

I always thought if Lightning just got an engine rebuild, which he probably needed, and maybe a change in aero, he would've been fine. He was still powerful, hitting near 200mph. Thing is, Jackson had electric motors, probably a different axle ration, and a wing typically makes less drag than a spoiler. He probably made morr hp, too. There seems to not be a lot of regulation compared to real world NASCAR, since King(a banned 60s car) was racing cars from the 80s(like Chick) and what seemed to be late 90s, early 00's. Which means Lightning probably isn't that old, he'd hafta be at least a young adult in the first movie. Say the same thing applies that a car at 25 is considered a historic vehicle, they age somewhat quickly, being 25 the equivilent of a senior or middle aged car, he's probably only about 6 to 10 years old by the third, and he was very capable against other race cars that have way better aero, horsepower or both. He beat an F1 car and several LMP cars, not to mention as a stock car, he's heavier than some of the other racecars, like the WRC cars. Plot was against him to move a narrative for him to experience both what King and Doc experienced so his rookie[who should've also lost] could move on. She wasn't even a racecar, she's a generic sports car with less power. If I recall; her and Sally have about the same hp, which is less than Lightning, who has 500 last I checked, which I'm sure 00s stock cars were pushing more than that, especially at bigger tracks, like Talladega.

That actually makes a lot of sense!😮 Thank you for answering a decades old question man!

Hybrid, light weight materials and a very aerodynamic body, the Tear drop shape for one makes the most difference.

Mcqueen got that LeLightning McKing James treatment

I don’t think they intended it to be this complicated ☠

"You think I was built yesterday?"

Actually cars 2 lightning McQueen is actually faster than storm when McQueen was in his prime speed he was able to beat Francesco with top speed of 220 kph with storm being only 214 kph

Reminds me of upgrading PCs. They eventually cannot be upgraded anymore better because the newer parts are just not compatible for older hardware.

Honestly I always thought of Cars to be like the robots in Robots (2005). They have to get the parts “delivered” through mail and then“make” the baby by putting the parts together (yes, in that order: “deliver” then “make”). As to how they grow up, the main character, Rodney, is often portrayed as the guy who always gets hand-me-downs from his cousins (oversized square chest from male cousins or busty chest from the girl cousins). Others I might assume they either bought their growing parts or made it themselves if not also getting hand-me-downs. They end up “dying” when their parts are no longer on sale/being made like you said in this video OR they get scooped up by the Sweeper and get taken to the Chop Shop where they’ll be melted down and made into new materials for future robots.

Cars 3 is supposed to be the story about a aging star in sports who has to realise, that he is not fast enough anymore to be a winner. Its a cool end to his story, because normally we see the Rookie getting on top. But next to never we see what happens after and even less what happens at the end of the career. Even if i hate Cars 2 the Cars movies are each a part of a life of a successful sports man. His rookie years in Cars 1, His peak in Cars 2 and his downfall in Cars 3 and the struggle of realising, that you are not the shootingstar anymore. And this is what i love about the three movies.

Cars three taught me that if you don’t feel like completing a race, you can just get another person to complete it for you and you can still win yeah and that same person can have experience or experience with the race because I’m trying to be a guy who is better than practically everyone else on the track

Personally I just think of it like robots where basically instead of the atom it was a nut and that nut became a robot and that robot made other robots and so on and so on

cars 4 (if it ever happens) should be about years later and storm being humbled seing himself getting old, and then finally understanding how McQueen felt and finally letting his ego go and feeling sorry is that too much for a kids movie? absoloutely but is it what would be the best story-wise? absoloutely

"one more video before bed" youtube: sends me through a "cars theories worm hole*

It wasn't because lightning couldn't do it, it's because that is what the writers wanted to go with... Very unfortunate we couldn't see more of lightning dominating the track

It reminds me of Thomas & Friends and the Railway Series in a way. Thomas could never beat an engine like Gordon or Spencer because his class, the LBSC E2s, weren't designed to go fast and were design for hauling short trains. Meanwhile, Gordon, an LNER A1/A3, and Spencer, an LNER A4, wete designed to haul fast passenger trains.

Kids shows aren't meant to make sense when examined closely.

A simple answer is just puberty

I think if we had a story about McQueen choosing to upgrade himself, it would go against Doc's influence. And because Doc and McQueen had that connection, he chose to raise the next generation rather than become it.

The movie is more based on teaching important life lessons to childrens. Like in this one."sometimes, in order to win, you must accept being defeated by someone that is better at every step of the way". It is a lesson of humility.