Conclusion of the Horde race guide. This will be the comment I edit if I made any major blunders. See part 1 here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdSKhN2Ans6RlZ8.html Edit: I promised I would update if the tauren hidden range racial made it in...and it did! clips.twitch.tv/DeadTiredHareOhMyDog

"What race should I play?" Madseason: "25% Stun resistance"

Why do you apologize for making lengthy video's? I find them very enjoyable! I listen to these while working throughout the day so it keeps me entertained and informed.

MadSeasonShow videos are the only way I survive the hype for Classic Wow

Clearly, Tauren is the best race for Rogues. They're so good at stealth that they're invisible from the character creation screen!

Thank you for including shaman tank!!

I really appreciate your videos man, your video style is one of a kind and I love it.

That intro makes me smile every time. You make some awesome vids man

Mate, I really love these videos. You've got a very calming voice. I started playing WoW in vanilla and these videos have a fair bit of nostalgia for me. Looking forward to classic.

I get so relaxed when I watch your videos . 😊👍

I absolutely love all the awesome Donkey Kong and Zelda music you add in your videos. Especially in your Nostalgia series. Honestly that is currently my favorite series of videos about WoW on the internet.

keep pumping the vids madseason really enjoy your content

I can't remember if I have commented this on a prior video or not, but I love that you use the music from the old school Donkey Kong Country games as the background in so many of your videos. It just doubles the nostalgia your videos stir in me

you're the first youtuber im hitting the like button everytime without considering it, because i really do know that every video is some kind of its own. I do love your quality. And im willing to support you via patreon without anything in return. Good work should be appreciated. Thats just all what i do now. I don't even play wow anymore, but your content keeps me fascinated.

I remember tanking Dire maul with my shaman back in the day. Thanks for these videos. They bring back a lot of memories.

Thanks for the video. Was really stuck on what race to choose for my Druid.

Thank you so Much :) Confirmed my choice for a Shaman Heal Troll. So hyped ! I joined WoW at the beginning of BC and that version had so many similarities with Vanilla compared to the current BFA that I hope I will find kind of the same experience I had.

As someone who joined during Mists of Pandaria, I really appreciate your well-considered info!

As I main Alliance on retail, I think I'll be sticking more to the Horde on Classic to switch things up. Glad to see the Shaman stuff! It cemented my Tauren pick.

I really liked the vibe of having the Darkest Dungeon music for the undead priest part... so fitting, the music is just creepy.

Wow is such a deep game haha. So many variables. Good video.

The Hamlet track from Darkest Dungeon, insanely good choice

ahhhh, the beautiful, nostalgic DKC music in the background was a nice addition

Appreciate the in-depth discussion, perhaps have timestamps for all classes on another video like this. Ty

Haven't played WoW for around 10 years now. Your channel is a good fix until WoW classic comes out, great content overall!!

Awesome guide-series! Thank you. Back in vanilla I was just a kid that could barely speak any english, but I did play quite a lot of WoW (like a chicken without a head I reckon, lol. At least for the first period of time). I started out making an orc shaman that I leveled to 60. However over time I got very jealous of taurens. The extra HP, the cool feeling of playing a big buff character (lol yeah it's primitive, but that's how I felt) and of cause... the war stomp! It got so bad that I made a new shaman, this time a tauren. Taking the leveling time back in vanilla into consideration people thought I was crazy. Though it was my main in the many years to come with WoW and I never regretted that decision. War stomp is so good for PvP. I also raided, but only to get better gear for PvP, lol. It was my great passion. I loved the big WF procs, so when the option to dual wield was added later into vanilla for shamans it was with mixed feelings for me. It was better to DW in regards to dps, but it just didn't have the same "lol, did you see that? That kid just got deleted!"-effect on me. Okay, back to choice of race. Shamans ate spell casters for lunch back in vanilla (and still does?). Especially in regards to offensive spells with casting time, like a shadow bolt. Normally I would rotate earth shock (spell interrupt) --> grounding totem (spell absorb) --> earth shock (since ES had like a 6s CD). However as tauren you could expand that rotation to ES --> GT --> ES --> War stomp --> ES. Of cause PvP is very dynamic and this example is over simplified, but man I gave those spell casters a hard time (at least in my own memories ;D ). Doing this rotation while spamming purge (removing all their magic buffs, such as shields and hots) basically killed the spell casters before they could do much. If you wanted to go full a**hole you got the tidal charm trinket (instant 3s stun) and went engineering for thorium grenades (skill shot based item that "repentance" the target for 3s aka another interrupt) and added those to your cycle. It was pretty GG for casters at that stage. The point is that war stomp fits the shaman kit very well for PvP. It's also very nice if you need to buy extra time for team members or get a "free" spell off yourself. I remember being quite disappointed with orc''s stun resist... but maybe it was way better than I felt back then. However I'm quite convinced I would go tauren again if I pick shaman for classic.

"Farewell for now mortals" I love it! So classy. Great vid!

Troll priests have a cool shadow orb on them , they win

Thank you for covering tank shaman! Not many people knew it was a thing and even some that did don't seem to acknowledge it. Sure they wont be main tanking raids, but let's be honest, neither will druids or paladins.

Good stuff, thanks man. I'd actually love seeing a class picking guide. I've played them all many times over, but not in vanilla and I'm sure things are quite different. :)

Keen for the class picking vid! Im new to your channel and im loving the vids man ^_^ keep it up!!!

Love the vids, watched all three and they really helped.....Thanks.

these are the best race guides yet

I was planning on making a troll hunter as I did when I started playing in BC, glad to see this is a good combination :D

Thanks man, looking forward to your class videos. Peace

I want to demand more videos from you but I know these take time and get more difficult as time goes on. It’s pretty cool to see your channel go from a random clip to show up in my feed to being a well known and awaited creator.

Remember that Undead Priests racial priest spell Touch of Weakness also does damage! This means if you have the blackout talent you have a 10% chance to stun melee attackers when they go on you

Thanks for going over all the shaman stuff. Not planning on any kind of min-max, but I wanted to hear general thoughts on what you would choose and why.

Touch of Weakness for UD priests can also proc blackout since it does a small amount of shadow damage when an attacker hits you. Also something you could add as an UD shadow priest to make your devouring plague much more efficient is only using it with inner focus. It of course won't get the added 25% chance to crit, but it will make a very mana consuming spell free! Plus they are both 3min CDs so you can have a free Devouring Plague all the time!! Power to the Forsaken!! Great vid man!

MadSeasonShow, you are playing all the songs that i listen to in my free time/study time. Nice.

Short video idea: Night Elf vs Tauren for Best Druid Race Long video idea: Best Races for Each Class (Horde and Alliance) Great video series so far, getting pumped for Classic!

The shadow priest part of this vid made my day ty

13:49 A huge nostalgia trip afflicted me when I heard this song, DKC 2 for life!

Madseason makes the most entertaining wow videos on KZfaq. Supremely hilarious on most videos

Yessssss the Shammy tank. I'm so excited to try this out. Enhance shammy seems so gutted in retail but back in LK, Enhance Shammy was my absolute favorite thing to play.

everytime the bell sounds on the town square that Madseasonshow will speak i rush over there! Love these videos 😄

Another well made, informative video! Nice job. :D Also, Tauren best in all druid roles? How controversial. You're a brave man. :P

It's worth noting that Tauren size increase reduces the Hunter deadzone, to the point it's difficult to abuse in PvP

Been on an orc warlock main for the past 2 years even into TBC and it's good fun.

You are killing me with the hype

you could compare tauren druid vs night elf druid

Love the Donkey Kong country 2 music in all your vids!

My favorite priest quote- Some priest heal Others enhance I however, melt faces.

I quit during warlords after playing since mid 2006. Thanks to your nicely done videos I might come back for some vanilla, good job!

Please do the class picking video! Much love.

Thanks for talking about shaman tanks :D

I think it's important to note that you can use Inner Focus to make Devouring Plague free. This can be huge in PvP!

13:22 That... That made my day. Thank you.

I put cannibalize a bit higher in PVP since a lot of classes don't have self healing. Especially within Battlegrounds when fighting multiple enemies there isn't always healer available. Even if you do carry pots and have bandages they won''t be enough to top you off alone. Still a great list and good tips.

Niche thing for Tauren hunters: IIRC war stomp is good against one of the demons for the rhok'delar quest in case your other CC messes up.

You know, I didn't like your voice at first, but now it's kind of grown on me. It's soothing in its monotony.

The beauty of this is that racials are pretty much all there is. The ability to pick any race of a class and be completely effective is great in wow. I make my decisions based on animations and aesthetics.

Ok about the Tauren "tank" I know almost 99 % of the people laugh at that. Back in vanilla I had Tauren Shammy and I had similar build, I did sort of experiment, most people laughed at me when they saw my talents until they dueled me. In almost every case I defeated them especially against warriors and rogues. First they said I was lucky, then 2nd duel - same result, 3rd duel - same result. People were just "WTF how this noob can even survive that long". That war stomp saved my skin against rogues so many times I lost count. With that extra 5 % health in vanilla it was a huge deal and that shield with the Stoneskin Totem gave a lot of armor against melee attacks. For me personally the rogues were the greatest challenge to beat, but with this kind of hybrid build increased my success rate with probably 50 % than otherwise. It really depended what class you are against. It was almost impossible (unless you are max geared) to be better against every class. Every class had different tactics to use if you are fighting against it, so I usually changed items and used different spells against different classes (which most people didn't bother to do). It was so bizarre when I posted somewhere in forums that I started making screenshots every time when I was dueling or doing PvP to show people because nobody believed otherwise, then they were like "OMG how is this possible" and in many cases I fought against higher level players (I was 55 and even fought 59-60 lvl and won). I think I still have the screenshots I have to check my old stuff, it will be nice throwback to see them again. I have to check also the talents I used, maybe I will try it again when Classic is released. My point is just because something looks weird, even funny by the mainstream opinion, doesn't mean it's bad. If you haven't tried it, how do you know it's bad choice? Back then also many builds required some practice, so at first it will seem off and hard, but when you get used to it is the opposite. I think there was very good case with a warrior ( I don't remember if it was the beta or after patch 1.0) because the warriors were considered as the worst PvP class, but this guy kept going and proved that it was actually OP and then Blizz patched it out later. So yeah, sometimes even the weirdest thing can be a thing if you know what you are doing and mastered it. That was the beautiful thing about Vanilla, the whole point was to master the way you like to play the game and stick with it. If you use a common build but have no idea or interest to know how to use your abilities, no matter how good the build is, you will still be mediocre in the best case. Can't wait for the Classic.

Awesome video thanks for making it!

another thing some people dont mention, is that because all races move at the same speed, and because tauren are so much bigger, their stride animation is slower and so it seems like they move slower. My first character was a tauren, after making a gnome for fun i felt like i was zooming across the map. Going back to tauren after that felt like i was moving at a snails pace.

When I was leveling my Undead Rogue I had a macro that would cannibalize before going into stealth. I found that if I didn’t macro the two together, I would forget all about cannibalize. But once I had macroed them together it was amazing how often it was getting used. It was like eating free food after each kill. When I got into endgame content, however, I decided to scrap the macro, because for some reasons [sometimes] cannibalize would break you out of stealth. Which was kinda weird because it was only some of the time. But it was just enough to mess you up in PVP where you can’t afford to mess up your own stealth attempt. I do the same with macroing Pick Pocket with Sap. And again, it’s amazing how much Gold you accumulatively make if you pickpocket every single time you sap an enemy. However, as I remember Sap put you in combat in a Vanilla, so that macro won’t be quite as good in Classic. However it will still make some extra gold because you’re still going to have to Sap, so why not make some gold every time you do. The difference is that you won’t be sapping EVERYTHING in Classic, unless you also want to fight everything. On the other hand, sometimes Sap puts you in combat in retail as well. Just not often. Macroing Sap with Pickpocket will also be good in Classic considering how much harder it is to make gold while leveling in the first place. Every piece of copper counts, and that little bit you make pickpocketing can be that much you don’t need to spend on repairs and things like that.

Undead priest it is for me, the small group i might be playing classic is atm lacking a tank and a priest and this video made me jump on priest really fast especially since they work so well on undead which were my favorite horde race in vanila wow.

I a lot of tanking with my Enhancement Shaman in vanilla however you are correct I didn't do it in raids mostly 5-man dungeons. I really miss my orc Enhancement Shaman!

I love the Zelda music dude!

Hey Mad, don't apologize for long videos, I love them! Side note: Having never really played WoW, can you make an in-depth video going all the specs (or at least the useful ones)?

Yay! For the horde!

I used to tank Kara with my enhancement shaman... Purchased the token shield and never got pulled off of! It was wild and tons of fun.

Nice song selection

As a rogue in vanilla the orc stun resist seemed more like 50% chance.. Honestly for ud cannibalize was nice in pve and pvp along with a bandage

Will of The Forsaken is just, any class just goes well with that.

Am I the only one who thinks that Shamans should have had race specific spells too? Shaman is based off of the Warcraft 3 Orc shaman units more than the Troll Witch Doctor and Shadow Hunter and the Tauren Spirit Walker.

Shman tank ftw. i did it pre BC and when not in raids- well +20 man raids. it was awesome.

The moment I heard Classic was going to be released, I instantly said "TAUREN WARRIOR! LET'S GO! Prot. Warrior with some big beef!"

Love the windwaker music

Nice choice of songs, could identify the Chrono Trigger one.

The Wind Waker soundtrack made me go back and play it again.

Lok'tar O'gar!

For PVE Undead Warlock, cannibalism is also great for leveling. One thing you can do is life tap your mana to full and then eat corpses to get plenty of free resources.

When will you start WoW BC class and race picking? Would be awesome and nostalgic to see Draenei and Blood Elves. I remember I chose Hunter for Draenei and I loved the starting zone of it. I really didn't think of Race specializations back then, but I really loved the look of Draenei. Always enjoy your vids. Cheers!

“What race should I play?” Madseason:“Zug Zug”

Hi there. Thanks so much for the video. However, I have a question: aren't orc shaman tanks the worst since blood fury reduces healing on them? so the order would be tauren>troll>orc?

Love the Dragonroost island theme on this video :D

Thanks for the music

You should do a comparison between the Night Elf Druids and the Tauren Druids. And Maybe, the Worgen and Troll Druids in the later expansions.

i've been playing since pre-BC and you somehow know wayyyy more than i do lmao

I made a troll priest in Vanilla when my guild was short on healers (she's still my main to this day). In doing so, I fell in love with healing, and with trolls. My reason, however, for choosing troll over undead...I didn't want to be an ugly undead, I thought trolls were much more attractive (yes, you have full permission to laugh at that reasoning and call me a typical female). I will say tho, I have very much enjoyed playing a troll priest for the past 14 years, I can't imagine myself maining another toon.

Man I wish we still had enhancement shaman as a tank

Never played wow til i watched this channel, now im maining an unholy orc dk running thru shadowlands😅 ill go blood when im doing dungeons

The music in the background reminds me so much of Blind Guardian - Blood Tears

Love the chrono trigger and chrono cross music

Man, I would love to play classic with you.

love the chrono trigger music

Great Vids - keep it up!

female undead also have the best casting anymation, which is why I'm rolling that for classic, since I'm going horde and I'm going to play a mage as my first character, warrior as number 2

MadSeasonShow? GladSeasonShow!