Baine was like us ... he thought the expansion was so dumb, he was AFK for most of it. Good for him. Got a nice, relaxed holiday away from his stressful job, without bothering with any of the BS in Shadowlands.

Shadowlands was the real wowkiller..

The problem with blizzards stories, especially since WoD, is that they almost immediatly fall apart once you start to think about it/ask questions. I understand that they want to tell a cool story first but is it cool if no one understands it and if it makes no sense inside of its own universe?

I have a friend that's had a tattoo of sylvanas for like 12 years and every patch he hates it more haha.

cant wait for them to reveal sylvannas as the creator of everything

Imagine if they actually made the lore before setting the plot of the expansions instead of making it all backwards

what they did to Arthas is what killed wow for me

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="580">9:40</a> thanks you finally someone said it! Tyrande is not crazy in shadolands or bfa. she just wnat put down massive genocide maniac but even god power canot defeat plot armor

"Wow's most hated expansion" is a nostalgic sentence we have been hearing since 2011 anually.

Denathrius likely serves the Void Lords. The Dreadlords book, which is randomly left in Revendreth, was probably purposely made and left to make the Azerothians more determined to overthrow Zovaal. As we know, most of the Nathrezim use Void Magic.

Sylvanus becoming the Lich King is 100% amazing in hindsight. Little Lion and the entire Azeroth crew could have gone on a epic campaign to break into the maw and disable the Helm of Domination's power from the inside, while an unstoppable Sylvanus rampages the Azeroth countryside in a frothing madness.

I'm just waiting for Anduin to show up with Sylvanas with a maw baby in tow.

WoW lore after the Lich King suffers from the villain of the week syndrome, they need someone to make sense of this mess and plan out a story that evolve for three expansions or so.

Love how Asmongold tries to theorize and make sense of the story meanwhile Blizzard came up with everything last minute lmao

"Anduin's on some quest to rediscover himself" Isnt that the beginning of every expansion though?

The ending of this video is perfect Asmon's community got real dedication 😂

With how dragonflight is set up currently it seems like we will see norzdormu’s corruption and have some type of giant war with the old gods so I’m super excited honestly

The best way for sylvanas' arc is to have tyrande to sneak into the maw, she kills her in secret. Player character get a cool cinematic from her owl, and no one ever speaks of it ever again ever.

That cave bit was pretty damn funny.

Vol'Jin might come back as the new Loa of Kings or something too, right?

I don't know if Blizzard made some changes to the people in charge of the story but the Shadowlands story had some of the lowest quality story WoW has seen.

Yeah the jailer and the Eternal ones ares likes robot, but the titans are not made in flesh either. The titanforgeds and guardians are made in stone and blizzard said the titans took example of the first ones when they created things.

Anduin finally getting that rotussy. I mean, tension was real, little lion.

@<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1156">19:16</a> you right, Greymane was more qualified man

Wouldn't it be cool if we actually don't see Anduin until the battle of Light & Void like that vision told us :D you all remember the vision right?

Dope doing the previous expansion(the one that matter,Legion)before joining in the current one,the Dragonflight.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="730">12:10</a> I would think Elune is a type of mystical essence.

One thing I appreciated with final fantasy is that they showed us Emet-Selch and his motivations the entire length of the expansion building up to his fight. I hope that Dragon Flight is better for those who enjoy the game x3

lmao when they charged him into the cave at the end. that shit was so funny.

Elune is the god of darkness, and the moon happens to come out at night, so easier to channel her power? She’s secretly evil, and the nigh eleven are the next baddies. Tyranda will be the next sylvanas, this was a test to see if tyrande can be a bad ass

The Titans are indeed robots. They were made in Zereth Ordos just like the Eternals were made in Zereth Mortis. And their creations are all robots as well. The Old Gods seem to be the only ones who can actually make life.

I f so hated why I cant make a step without bumpin anyone ? Bigger run for elites rares than in fkin df first days...

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1110">18:30</a> Remember good times when Alliance supposed to be democracy concucil without human supremacy, when horde supposed to be united under powerful Warchief. When we flip the places?

Jaina and Tyrande are hot heads, Greymane hid behind walls during a war causing the worgen.....and Turylan is not a bitch, he was one of the ones who helped close the dark portal with Khadger.

still looking for blink on my mage to worry bout dragons

Next thing ya know they'll patch in Bob the Builder as the creator of Azeroth.

I really agree with you about Turalyon and being the leader of the alliance now. Illidan pretty much poned him in legion, and that was when he was incredibly weakened by the one Naaru and was so tired and drained he practically had one hand tied behind his back and stopped at that giant sword from cutting him down with the other hand. I still think we need to bring Illidan back in dragonflight. After all he was the Superior Stormrage brother

About the leader of the alliance, it's more like -"turalion, what do we do about the defias attacking our civilians" -"the what?" Turalion wasn't here, he doesn't know shit about the alliance AT ALL. a leader isn't supposed to be an immortal monster that can beat the crap of everyone, a leader lead, and for this, he need to know how EVERYTHING work. I can't see someone else than the leader of the worgen or the fucking dwarf leader, both the people right next to the human lord that actually helped him 24h7, to lead the alliance. Velen probably still need a bit more time to calm down after legion, and wasn't really always with the king, the elfs are the elfs, always by themselves, the gnomes are piece of shit, and the rest wasn't here 95% of the alliance history. How the hell would they help when they don't know a third of what's important for the alliance.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="406">6:46</a> - This. When Tirion Fordring finally yells "CHAMPIONS ... ATTACK!!", ufff the feels. It's like "this is IT, it's THE MOMENT".

The cave bit at the end 😂😂😂😂

The fact they can’t release multiple raids in a launch with tiered difficulty to get the next one is a huge L. Having to replay the same endgame for months is boring…..

Imagine the First ones actually looking like Blizzards Lead World Designers. I think that would be funny.

Palegos is Kalecgos little consort secret.

Undead should have attacked the horde way earlier like that quest from thunderbluff in vanilla that only non-undeads could do in sm.

Yes the Lich Queen is where Sylvanas story should have ended. Then you could always say the jailer or the LOA was pulling strings.

Next pre-patch should have an event where you go back to shadowlands and punch pelagos until he cries again

Imagine in the Light vs Darkness expansion, Anduin comes back as an goth edgy Shadow Priest (Or some edgy Shadow Paladin, if they want to make a new class for some bizarre reason)

Charlie Sheen made Azeroth, Tigers blood + winning

I think Denathrius probably crap his pants if he knew he came off an assembly line. We destroyed Denathrius' replacement mech in a raid

All I can say is that Evokers were a dumb addition in the sense of the following: Playable Wardens should have been a thing, a mixed Melee + Ranged (similar to Survival Hunter in some aspects) Elf, during the Timeskip they could easily have been trained for lore purposes, and Chromie can send people back to the past so that fixes a lot of plot holes for say Blood Elf Wardens. Wardens could have been a Mail Class, Agility and Intellect focused specializations (pure DPS), perhaps a Warden that wields Elune's magic with a 2H (spear / staff) Intellect Focus, heavy reliance on mobility and up close abilities while also a strong focus on ranged (short ranged, similar to Evoker), and then another spec of Warden that does 2 x 1H (i.e. Glaives, Archetypal Warden), more combo focused, a mix of something like Mage, Rogue, Demon Hunter, and Monk, Agility Based. Can make all of their attacks including autos ranged for a bit, using Elune's magic. Whereas Evokers just kinda come out of left field with a major ???.

DC comics is STILL trying to get the cosmic stuff right. 4 and just recently 5 full universe reboots (crisis events) later.

I think Elune really is the moon goddess. Other planets exists with moons, and we know the Night Elves on Azeroth aren't the only ones who worship Elune, many of the races on Azeroth too also worship Elune and not just the Night Elves. Tauren worship her too under a different name, but it's still the same goddess. We see her physically represented as the moon, like in the Yesera death Cinematic. I think she's just that, a moon goddess, still powerful obviously, any god would be. Forgive me if I'm wrong I haven't been keeping up on lore since BFA, this is just from what I remeber.

Is it me or did Bellular do his best Platinum WoW impression with this video?

I'm not quite sure, but Koranus looks like Bellular :P

@<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="520">8:40</a> but asmongold there must always be an arbiter..

Bolvar straight up said he wanted NO ONE to know he was the Lich King... and then the mages put a statue up in Dalaran where you could see the whole thing. Really it's his daughter's fault for not knowing.

Went from killing hogger to slaying inter-dimensional nipple guy

Ngl but if Tyrande becomes leader of the alliance you can be 100% sure Orgrimar disappears overnight

This a potential ending that I think would have been better: After the defeat of the Jailer, the Shadowlands is thrown into chaos and on brink of collapse(destruction). Without the Arbiter and Jailor, the balance of the realm is gone and the remaining Archons sacrifice themselves to save the realm, and in this way, the remains of their anima get together with the body of the Arbiter and we also get a new arbiter, and a united Shadowlands(under this new being control)

It's crazy to think that it ended up with the Star Wars effect where the story is just criss-crossing wires and not making a whole lot of intentional sense anymore. It's looking like there's some generational gap going on where old leaders take off, new leaders don't capture the same vision and it translates through negatively to the intended audience. A story that has infinite instances of "oops, jk" going on or overly excessive plot twists or story redirection isn't a story anymore. It's bad fan service. You'd need the scale of Tolkien to capture this level of excessive storytelling with it being drawn out enough to be believable.

Elune is part of the Pantheon of Life. She is the Winter Queens Counterpart in the Realms of Life.

I'm surprised they havnt just finally made a 2nd/newer WoW. Tbh.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1490">24:50</a> merry christmas

Elune have both Light and Shadow Magic tho

Pve content looks decent as always, its the pvp thats killing me.

Isn't Elune also the Tauren Earth Mother, so a nature goddess in the life realm, as in what would be Winter queens equivalent in the realm of life, so a sister of sorts created to do the same job among the living, which should mean that Denathrius and co would likely have equivalents as well, which would make sense, along with a life arbiter that decides new and returning souls purpose in life and it would make sense that they resided in the real emerald dream reality, so likely a future likely neutered content with 6-12 month drought Emerald dream expansion.

"Genn is a dog and Turaylon is a bitch. Same thing" Truest comparison

Shadowland is not a bad XPAC in fact the lore is good , yeah there are some dark point but the story of sylvanas is not one of them ( THe jailer is )

I was more confused by Deathwing from the dragonflight cinematic because he's in a human form. Ok the timelines are screwed in WoW but how did he know what a human was before humans had evolved from the Vrykul ? old god curse hits and we get dwarfs and humans etc etc but the dragons were around way before that. So ..... how ?

What if the First Ones were the universe's first living beings and gave birth to the Titans and they overthrew and killed their parents and took over and the Primialists found out, hence their imprisonment but the Titans kept the secret from the Aspects. Would be interesting to see if that is the case.

I think when the Winter Queen said that Elune was her sister, I think she meant more of a counterpart. She's the "Winter Queen" of life. He does the same job that the Winter Queen does, but for the Life force rather than Death.

"Greymane is more qualified to be the king..." Someone didn't watch the platinum wow videos about Genn. He's probably one of the *least* qualified to be running the Alliance, especially after his unprovoked attack back in Stormheim while we were supposed to be fighting off demons.

Who the fuck is writing the dialog texts in the game, i mean holy shit bruh

Didn't Elune give birth to Cenarius? How could a robot have a child?

I’m genuinely curious how wow would be holding up without classic

bring varian back, fuck it

Jaina the Deserter during the Legion invasion , nah I would not make her the Leader of the Aliance. The Horde as always lead the way, a council in peace time, with a war chief elected in time of war.

Review the director release of throne and liberty that released today.. the game play looks amazing!

Every WoW expansion from Cata onwards had a great start and excellent questing experience . The alliance city in BfA is probably the best city Bliz's ever done. SL's problem was AFTER the 2 month launch period. Maybe it was because of the rona or whatever, but it had pretty weak support

I like how Blizz doesent want us to realize we are homies with the fucking Arbiter... Bruh if someone like Thrall were to die, we could just ask Pelagos to just send him back now

So many robots next expac is the gundam expac

Andi just vibin in the woods right now, under a log.

Wow was way better when it was just "see that dragon? He's bad. Get 39 of your mates and go fuck him up"

Sylvannas was such an awesome character. . . Then BFA happened.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1653">27:33</a> ASMR streching massage by Olga (Compilation)

The whole reason why they made Bolvar apologize is because it's become a meme in 2010 about "omg dad wasn't there for a month of my life, BAD PARENT, LOL"

Pelagos becoming arbiter was the same as Bran becoming King of Westeros. Completely underwhelming

They really did fuck up both Sylvannas lore as well as Arthas lore, its so annoying. It could have been done well, but it wasn't.

Asmon looking more and more like Gollum.

Sylvanas wouldn't have been able to burn down Teldrassil with Illidan in charge ... because he'd have burned it down himself long ago due to trying some crazy magical spell or something. Legion tried to pull a Kerrigan on him but as per older lore (back when the lore was actually good, so no, go fuck your new lore) Illidan had always been a loose canon.

Love the ending in the cave

I cant wait for shadowlands classic.

I guess I’m going to have to dust off the Warcraft files and see if they’ll let me revive my old Undead Warlock 😅

Idk why, but this recap just made me think of Gurren Lagann’s story

in the cave part of the cave.

Cant wait for Shadowlands classic.

I think too many people focus too much on the robo jailer part. Personally, I think him turning back to such a form had more to do with him dying in Zereth Mortis, instead of dying in the shadowlands or material plane. Considering what we saw happen to Denathrius for example, I don't think the eternal ones would appear as robots if we killed them outside of the Zereth. I'd say it's quite likely based on the templates we saw in Zereth Mortis that if anything from the material planes died there, that they would loose their essence and turn into templates due to the nature of the place. Still was a dumb thing to do depiction wise though. And imo we should have never set foot into a place like that. It took away too much of the mystiques of the shadowlands and well warcraft universe as a whole since we know there's a Zereth for each major cosmic force.

WoW should've tried to surpass DCU first.

i think the problem people have with the idea of doing something similar lore wise like The Burning crusade into legion etc etc is that anymore people dont have the kind of time or patience for a game to do things like that, thats why games like MW2 and fortnite and apex can live so healthily off lil amounts of content because people want something immediate and effortless they dont wanna commit time and energy into things not more than they really have to anyway. thats how it feels anymore. and i feel like thats why shadowlands (especially after the battle for azeroth expansion never ending) they tried to pick up the pace and rush things over in order to maintain player base interest in the game. at the begining battle for azeroth did well and everyone was cool with it but the more it dragged on the more people became upset with blizzard.

Audible should really reach out to Asmobd and pay for that promo