Then they’re like what’s that?

Sounds better I got some dates on part because I was a diesel technician

@@Skim_beeble7125 I’ve just had so many people question what an automotive service technician is

Those are the girls that take the bus

@@Advancedecu hahahaha

and you sir have no clue.

A mech.knows things a tech doesnt

That killed me! 🤣🤣🤣

No clue here

😂😂😂

You said it best

Mechanics can’t diag the same way dealer guys can, but lots of dealer guys can’t grind the way mechanics do

all technicians are mechanics not all mechanics are technicians

From someone who has held positions with both titles, in different industries, I would argue neither. Mechanics more so denotes generalists who yes, can/will be able to 'figure it out' and fix something, but might not be as efficient or even effective in a given maintenance area, repair type, or task set as someone who specializes in such. Whereas a technician implies more technical education, experience and specialization in a given area or task type who is more likely to perform the work according to [arguably, amongst highly qualified trade professionals and industry-wide standards] best practices. But of course others will disagree or use the terms differently, and many use them interchangeably.

Another analogy. All rappers are hip hop artists, but not all hip hop artists are rappers (some might simply produce beats, but not rap). Then within that set of rappers, arguably all of them are lyrical to some extent. Nonetheless, we could further differentiate a subset as bona fide "lyricists". You (or certainly, hip hop heads/avid rap music listeners or fans) wouldn't necessarily call any given rapper (analagous to a mechanic) a lyricist (technician) i.e., rap artist who is especially skilled in the element of lyricism. E.g., Tech N9ne or Eminem have proven themselves as rap lyricists (lyrical technicians). Whereas many others (such as certain stereotypically simplistic 'mumble rappers') aren't quite in that category with respect to demonstrated lyrical specialization or skill. Of course there are other elements like flow, delivery, cadence, story-telling, pure entertainment value, etc. Or we could use the example skill of raw (legitimately 'off the dome') freestyle ability - within that realm, Harry Mack has proven to be a freestyle technician. Doesn't mean most other rappers aren't freestyle mechanics i.e., up to that task whatsoever. But they might not be nearly as skilled or specialized in doing so. That is basically the semantic and denotational difference in my POV. 1 has to do with a broader, more generalist capacity that indicates ability in something or at least in a domain within which it resides (and indeed might imply a more multi-craft connotation), while the other has to do with especially honed technique in a particular task type or area. Professionally trained tire technicians are often better at tire maintenance and repair than any given run of the mill mechanic. Lube "techs" can often adopt better practices and habits than some mechanics who alternatively started up in certain full-service shops with a blind spot here or there (concerning tire and wheel service, maintenance and repair) by whoever happened to initially train them. Indeed this area of steering and suspension is often taken for granted as relatively less consequential grunt-work. Automotive mechanics might know more about multiple areas of automotive maintenance and repair than a given tire or tire and lube tech (or more about more vehicle makes than say a Honda tech or whatever other OEM autotomotive tech who is highly skilled but only with vehicles of a given manufacturer). But again, we are collectively on different pages (including employers even lol) with inconsistent usage of these 2 alternative terms and probably, it will remain that way unfortunately (or not, most people aren't so pedantic as I am)

She wasn't worth the overwhelming debt she's in anyways 😂 The chicks from college I met always couldn't believe that i made more than they ever will as a mechanic. No debt except tools, of course 😅

@@bumpygarage4291sheesh😂

Yh I found ag engineer works better on girls than tractor mechanic atleast when I’m drunk and trying to chat up the girls in the pub but I really don’t care it’s broke I fix it and get paid no matter what you call me

😂😂

​@@MH-df5en haha right on mate 🍻

My shop won't even hire anyone coming from a school. You'll need two years at another shop to many parts replacers.

I know how to do stuff they teach you but not the way they teach you...

I always went by mechanic, because agricultural equipment technician is a long title that causes multiple followup questions.

​@@beekeeper8474 how much are they starting guys at?

Sounds like a pickup line

You know mechanics back in the day used to use dwell meters for making measurements. Have you ever seen the old snap on lab scope for pre OBD?

@@beekeeper8474 I have in fact, we have one sitting in the back room of the shop I work at Can’t say I’ve ever used it myself but every once in a while our old car guy will break it out and I’ll just kind of watch

What's a 'labscope'?

it's interesting that you draw the line at the tools used

@@roboticunclephil It’s not so much the use of the tool as it is the speed an accuracy that it brings me as a diagnostician.

I’m not just skinny. I’m a faster-master

I'm not just a tall guy, I'm an astronaut specialist

Well then I'm a mechanic.

Eagle grit or fast orange work very well

@@DiscoMiata That's gonna be a big thumbs down over Fast Orange from me. It's OK

Dont work that good, only way for a real mechanic to have clean hands like them are gloveworks lmao My arms sure do still get dirty af tho

@@TheDunceMafia Tough Nut is the best soap that we’ve used.

Only autistic women work doing hard labor. The ones who pretend to do it for fun, for money, or anything that sounds reasonable is a total lie. This isn't a slight directed at women but am actual fact. There is some tattooed chick with dreads in other short videos that pretends to be a mechanic but you can easily tell she's faking it by the way she dresses in short shorts.

why

@@roboticunclephil Because he can't diagnose electrical🥱

​@@johnny622 electrical is hard tho

​@@johnny622Electrical isn't easy. It's not like changing oil.

Trouble diagnosing electrical components 😅😂

Idk there's a lot of electronics in modern cars. An OBD is used about as much as a 10mm nowadays.

@@chrismartinez6844 yea, but knowing how to use a scan tool doesn't make you special

With most vehicles haveing over 30 computers that communicate with each other over the multiple networks, yes that makes you a technician. And using a scan tool successfully, and effectively makes you good. Any monkey with two hands can do a brake job, but tell the same monkey to chase a HS-CAN network problem and he'll think your head is on fire.

@@jonnylong7927 Never worked on a car, huh?

@@katkiller5647 I own a power sports repair shop.

A mechanic can do that after throwing so many parts at it.

How ? You mean to say mechanics are educated ?

@@arwindercheema3166 he meant to say that techs are educated and saw mechanics as people who just replace parts without to much diagnostics. I personally don't agree with it but he is a certified master tech so to each his own

You can call us whatever you want, at least we mechanics aren't always parts throwers. Can't say the same of the guys who get schooling to learn the trade.

Same ✌️

She can check my tire pressure 😂❤🎉

Can I check her oil?

oooooofffffffffff where did you learn this? lmao

@@nrxhavoc Someone told me something along these lines a long time ago. Technician was a “better” title you could say. It was almost like being better trained or whatnot. It’s why places like dealerships have signs up like, “Now Hiring Technicians.” Mom and pop shops will say, “Hiring Mechanic.”

You can always tell a good mechanic by how terrible their car looks. If it looks like it came out of a junkyard you know they're a good mechanic because they kept it running.

@@matthewmorgan582 but I don’t want a junkyard car…lmao why not just fix or replace what’s broken?

My mechanics car is 17 years old with 216,000 original miles.

@@DariusJones05 That's exactly my point. They just fix what breaks on them and the thing will have 350k miles on it even though it looks rusty and there's no clear coat left the back windows don't go down and the horn doesn't work it still runs. That's why it looks like a junkyard car.

@@matthewmorgan582 my mechanics car looks nothing like that. In fact it looks as good as most cars do by the time they hit 50,000. And yes, the horn works.

Yeah, we don't have time to learn aftermarket stuff, our brains are already overloaded with all of the factory systems. Although, with wiring diagrams, remote starting systems aren't too difficult to deal with. Always easier to send the customer back to the installer though.

Didnt realize it was two different girls at first

you got me weak ur joking right

No the mechanic replaces everything his $29 eBay code reader tells him. My computers that cost more than your car are used to test components. I tell you what wrong …. Not the computer. That comes from 20 years of diagnostic experience

@@Advancedecu lol real cars and trucks don't have computer

So how do you set your timing ?

@@Advancedecu with a timing light lol

Then you give the old school guy any electrical problem and they shit a brick 😂. Being an automotive tech has become so specialized that it's really nothing like being a real mechanic anymore.

@@jbthestoner5504 most of them yeaap lol,few of them old school boy's can do electrical. Biggest reason I decided not to be a mechanic is because it's all electrical/specialized. Me personally I'd rather work on the older vehicles,when engineer's still had some brains left and kinda used them to a degree lol.

@@brandonstennes4931 yep I feel you with that. That's why I chose to work on heavy equipment instead, all that stuff is still old school. I can hardly fix a car lol.

@@jbthestoner5504 heavy duty mechanics seems pretty straight forward/ old school to a degree. Right! Haha need a damn scan tool for 90% of it lol.

Fuck off with that boomer shit, I couldn’t possibly know how to tune a carb or set timing on points! Also i can diag can bus issues, use lab scopes to check current ramps on injectors and coils. Pull cam crank waveforms to verify timing. Damn man i even know how to use a rotary phone!

Doctors and nurses are two very different things and can be differentiated easily. Your analogy would be closer to the guy who changes the oil calling himself an engine builder.

@@jonnylong7927 mechanic that is only qualified to change oil and a technician who is trained to do everything on your vehicle would be that exactly and the way we are distinguished is our ase certification patches

@@Advancedecu"technician" is ONLY a title, it says NOTHING for a person's capabilities , a good example is that EVERYONE at a dealership is called a "technician" and a LOT of those guys are fucking retarded and can't fix shit, and there are "mechanics" that can out wrench most "techs". Fancy words sell, basic words don't.

@@Advancedecu ase ah the old I filled out paper so I'm special! Our shop has been around 75 years and if you come in with ASE you might as well be handing over toilet paper.

@@beekeeper8474 good for you

But some of the modern day bullshit cars r sadly designed to be like that. #Mercedes #Ford #BMWmakingUReteachCarHasNewGasCap

@@selwyn13 to an extent. If it is gas, you still need the basics to have a chance, gas and spark. Yes, more parts are involved now to go along with that, but the mechanical things like suspension components still need to be figured out, and a computer can't tell you a ball joint or sway bar is bad. I have seen technicians lost when it comes to something their scan tool doesn't tell them. Not that they are not smart.

@@calvins1837 Ya for suspension related work, definitely. I was talking about as far as engine and transmission. Shit Even for bleeding the brakes, I remember the bleed sequence book we would follow when I worked at a brake shop would say that you had to hook a scan tool to complete the whole bleeding process (I think it was for the electronic e-brake, I don’t remember exactly). Our company, Brake Check, was too cheap to get us a scan tool like that, so we always had to skip it. Or recalibrating ADAS system (I think is also called Electronic Stability Control or ESC system) w/ a scan tool after an alignment. Sucks as to how monopolized everything is.

@@calvins1837 so the easiest things to check

@@joe1273 no its the primary things to check. For example if your fuel pump goes, and you have a no start situation checking sensors and modules first, before checking the fuel rail for pressure is a waste of time. And in the case of some gm vehicles, no fuel pressure cut off the spark, so you have neither fuel or spark. Always start with the basics dad taught me. 50 years as a mechanic he knew a little. It has held true no matter how I apply it in life.

Exactly. I’ve got enough certifications and training certificates to fill a whole wall but didn’t get to be my best until I started seeking out all of the knowledge I could on my own time and learning new techniques and applying them in the field. I am now one of the go to diagnostic techs in this area. A lot of those training classes and even ASE certifications are a joke. I quit renewing them all together. Just about anyone that has worked on cars for a few years with some common sense can walk in and pass the ASE certification tests. If you’re going to be good diagnosing cars these days you need to gain a strong understanding of electrical principles and learn to use an oscilloscope. Once I learned how to a scope and use pressure transducers to look at what’s going on inside the cylinder, the intake manifold, and the exhaust things really opened up for me. Just listening to someone talk about doesn’t cut it. You have to get in there and see these problems first hand and then you really start to understand what you’re seeing on the screen before that light bulb truly comes on.

Degree or not a technician diagnoses a problem without throwing part at it.

@@jimbo3934 in theory

No. That's what we do

@@jimbo3934 I think he meant you hook a scanner up and then throw parts at what that scanner tells…

Got a degree in automotive technology and I call myself a mechanic. I don’t just go off what tsb’s and common fixes and throw the parts cannon at it till its fixed like techs do. I find the issue and replace or fix it the first time. Haven’t had a come back in 12 years. Which says a lot since I’m only 30

Not everyone that works on cars has filthy hands not all of us like getting customer cars dirty bud

Have you heard of gloves

@@jay1268 you bet your ass they do. Unless they claim they work on cars but all they do is stand by their toolbox and shine their already clean tools. Bud

@@jangingout I have been working on cars for 10 years professionally and my hands arent filthy my guy🤣 I'm doing 120 hour pay periods doing engine, transmission work down to diag and services and everything in between. I don't like getting in customer cars or my personal cars covered in grease if you get customer cars and your cars filthy that's a slob move on you man

@@jay1268 It's inevitable not to get your hands dirty even wearing gloves. If you really work on cars for a living, you'd know that. Unless you're one of those princesses that puts on new gloves everytime it rips even in the middle of your job(let's say you're removing top tranny mounting bolt and your glove rips, are you stopping what you're doing to put on new damn glove so you're pretty nail doesn't get dirty?) Get it together my guy 😆

Ok nvm seems like a tech is someone who went to school for a specific type of knowledge

A technician is someone who can only diagnose a problem with a scantool. A mechanic can use basic testing equipment with skills and experience along with common sense to identify the problem and repair the component and the cause.

@@bazjones8075 I'd say an electrical diagnostic technician's main tools are a scan tool, DVOM, oscilloscope and a low current inductive ammeter. Being able to understand the scan tool data well enough to effectively diagnose with it is indeed a skill in itself though. Same can be said for the DVOM, oscilloscope and inductive ammeter as well.

Ima bet you don’t work in the automotive field anymore but you still think your 2 month stint makes you a mechanic and you know everything

The scan tool does not diagnose an issue with the car. A good technician will use that information to diagnose the issue. For instance code is MAF frequency low, mechanics throws multiple maf sensors at it. A technician would look at the readings and say if its a ford look at the calculated BARO reading seeing if its low. Then doing a back pressure test to find out the catalytic converter is clogged causing the low reading from the maf due to the engine not being able to read properly.

@@joe1273 okay but splitting hairs here. Were kinda just saying the mechanic just sees a reading and throws parts at it. A tech sees the reading and does another series of readings or tests and finds the solution. But that's still the same thing I was saying, hook it up to the cpu, read the code, check what the code means by looking up the make of the car or just it being a standard code. Like I'm saying a good mechanic is someone that's been around cars for years (probably not new ones considering you replace one part and have to wipe the cpu for the thing to run half the time) but based on their knowledge of cars finds the issue and fixes it. Not hooking it to a machine that gives you error codes for what's wrong and then just heading down the line of tests to figure out what's wrong.

In a sense you’re right. My old instructor said the difference is the technician is the smart one and the mechanic is the monkey

Technicians are mechanics but many call themselves techs because the term mechanic is so widely used among shade tree and autozone parking lot mechanics etc. Many take pride in the fact that we can fully diagnose and fix an issue that would otherwise stump a “mechanic” therefore not wasting your money with unneeded parts and time.

This lady is neither you can tell from the hands

@@aname1281 Well I better tell my boss that I'm a shity technicians, because my hands are clean and soft.. By the way I am an ASE Master technicians with 35 years experience.. I am the technicians that sovles problems dealerships in my area can't find/fix... I do wear gloves all the time.

@@homesteadhaven2010 I was more referring to the cuts and scrapes that guys (and girls) get. You sound like you got it down to a science, I respect that.