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AXLEBACK vs CATBACK EXHAUST COMPARISON! | 15-20 Subaru WRX
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Күн бұрынThis week, we take a closer look at how Kyle's Remark Axleback and Kevin's R400 Catback exhausts compare!
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@PhotodigmStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Who's idea was it to put music over the video about how things sound?
@yammmit 3 жыл бұрын
Whose*
@logansheppard3066 4 жыл бұрын
The axle back wins for sure, definitely brings out the turbo spool sounds! I have axle backs on my 2017 and LOVE THEM! I get compliments all the time
@claudetowers9629 4 жыл бұрын
Which one do u have
@logansheppard3066 4 жыл бұрын
Claude towers subiedepot 4” single wall
@Steve-qr2lm 4 жыл бұрын
Why would an axle back bring out spool more than a cat back?
@BLACKOMAMBO 4 жыл бұрын
@@Steve-qr2lm he said the sound, no performance gain from axleback, and you could tell by the video
@bradrogers4019 3 жыл бұрын
@@BLACKOMAMBO i don't think either provide much in the way of gains. Need down pipe and perhaps headers and tune to see performance gains
@Mskaterkid2 4 жыл бұрын
bruhhh I'm shocked. That axle back sounds so much better than I thought it would, and surprisingly (in my opinion) better than the invidia cat back
@MarcosGarcia-xg1rf 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I’m taking the axel back , cheaper and sounds clean
@rayndog3 4 жыл бұрын
I personally like the deeper tone over the loudness, that's why I went with the invidia catback myself.
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Finally someone who likes the r400 more! Kyle's axleback is definitely more agressive..
@chrissanchez8730 4 жыл бұрын
WRXGarage Yes and the fact that you can build on top of it. Axle back limits u in that regard.
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrissanchez8730 you can still do a midpipe and down/j pipe with am axleback! Just need to make sure the flanges are compatible.
@Notuser112 3 жыл бұрын
@@WRXGarage do I need to tune the car if I get the r400 like just the car back with no j pipe
@getrichtrying 3 жыл бұрын
@@Notuser112 no
@Livetosucceed10 4 жыл бұрын
sound quality was the invidia but for loudness the axle back
@wilsonkasunga3358 4 жыл бұрын
Sti wing all day I love the look
@impulseproman 4 жыл бұрын
R400 catback deep over loud
@David-fp8mb 4 жыл бұрын
Remark all the way.
@Drazx3 3 жыл бұрын
Just put the remark muffler delete on my spt exhaust and despite it being a CVT it sounds RIDICULOUS
@kyledinio7317 4 жыл бұрын
Remark for loudness. Invidia for sound quality. Invidia gives a bassier tone. Guess it all depends on the budget. Could always go for axleback, and get the midpipe later down the road or just go straight for the catback. Question: Is either one of you planning on doing a turboback? If so, it would be a nice video to see in the future!!
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle! I finally went for the GS jpipe paired with the invidia r400 catback: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbCpntalta2VaWQ.html
@BaconNDCheese 4 жыл бұрын
i love the deep throaty tone of the nvidia. Might not be as loud but a definite win for me
@christianb7125 3 жыл бұрын
I have the invidia and just cruising around sounds really nice
@peter_knowz_lifting 4 жыл бұрын
Cat back wins hands down for sound quality. Ax back wins hands down for loudness.
@TheWoundedNinja 4 жыл бұрын
Shows Exhaust* music in the background*
@cassandravanolinda158 4 жыл бұрын
That feels so backwards. I thought the catback would be louder. The axel back sounds great. Would love a driveby video
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Cassandra! We have individual videos on each of the exhausts that have in cabin noise, revs, and flybys! The catback has 4 straightpass mufflers, and a resonator, while the axleback deletes the mufflers completely!
@Wachofeo 4 жыл бұрын
nice.. I think i'll get the catback for my 17' STI
@loveii5481 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I prefer the cat back I love the tone of the invidia in my opinion
@erdinczor1 4 жыл бұрын
Liked the video for the doggo in the intro
@martelljp2878 4 жыл бұрын
Earned yourself a subscriber! Can’t wait to get my 2020 WRX Base in the next couple of days!
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
What color and trim did you get!!
@martelljp2878 4 жыл бұрын
WRXGarage haven’t made my mind between WR Pearl Blue or Pearl White... and I picked the base trim but then I saw the premium performance package which got me thinking again lol. I haven’t signed anything yet but I do have the deal sheet pending for my signature lol
@rthuang13 4 жыл бұрын
Loud - remark, but sound quality gotta go with R400. I have the full j pipe and cat back r400. Gotta love that deep tone
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Sick!! I've been thinking about doing the Cobb reasonated j pipe next month. Which do you have?
@rthuang13 4 жыл бұрын
WRXGarage I have invidia catted j pipe to the r400. If I could I would go with grimmspeed jpipe and match it with my r400.
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say that there's a bit more drone with the axleback, but both are very manageable. The r400's drone pretty much blends in with the road noise unless you're going over 85ish
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Why GS over invidia?
@thecarsavant 4 жыл бұрын
rthuang13 why Grimmspeed over Invidia?
@AllanDelosReyes 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test now I can decide which exhaust I want.
@janicesanderson3310 4 жыл бұрын
Axle Back 😝🤜🏽💥🤛🏼
@hebegb1966 4 жыл бұрын
Axle back, seriously thinking about getting one.
@DjRuBSP 4 жыл бұрын
Both are good. Some days you want loud, while other days you want not so loud. I think drone should also be included in your testing. Duck bill all the way. Paint match or black would be sick. 👍👍👍
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Ruben! We have individual videos which go in depth on the in-cabin noise and drone of each. Definitely go check those out!
@uneven_haircut1861 2 жыл бұрын
I like the right side wrx. Nice deep tone
@paulmarsdensr8199 4 жыл бұрын
The axel back sounds louder. The catback sounds dope as well. Good job guys 👍. I'm subscribing right now. I have a 2017 base model WRX aka (ocean blue) I added fog lights and a Vortex Generator from Frank's Irvine Subaru out here in California. Again good job guys.
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! We appreciate the support!!! Do you have any future mods planned?
@paulmarsdensr8199 4 жыл бұрын
@@WRXGarage No not really. I'm a retired Navy sailor and I'm blessed beyond belief. I'm going to get the STI after I pay off Ocean Blue. I really like our community. I am excited about the new design coming up. I like that Subaru put everything but the kitchen sink in the2020 WRX and STI
@paulmarsdensr8199 4 жыл бұрын
Get the RA wing that's on that STI. I think it looks cool.
@user-ti6rg1sc5c 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Marsden I just so happened to get an ra this week👍🏼
@paulmarsdensr8199 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ti6rg1sc5c oh wow that's awesome man. You enjoy. Don't ever get rid of it 😂.
@ImportRacerBM3 3 жыл бұрын
catback sounds better at lower/mid rpm, but the axleback sounds better at 7k rpm. axelback is louder over all. and as far as the aero goes, i’d do a moderately sized GT wing
@The_Animal_Man 3 жыл бұрын
I went with a full remark catback with with muffler deletes and a center resonator so it can be quieter with no restriction (before the cat) and it doesn't sound annoyingly loud just on cold-start
@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Can you send us a clip of your exhaust
@SpecOpsDad Жыл бұрын
The R400 sounds like the STP factory upgrade exhaust
@prodigioustortuga1107 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the sound of the right more.
@VeeDragon22 3 жыл бұрын
The axel back sounds louder but the overall sound quality I prefer the catback
@maciwinski601 3 жыл бұрын
Remark baby!
@howarddavis8451 4 жыл бұрын
As far as tone the catback is deeper and richer. But tge louder one is the axleback.
@benivalentine1489 4 жыл бұрын
cat back sounds way cleaner....axle back was louder
@shaggy6523 4 жыл бұрын
Love the rumble of the invidia
@chrisloya6988 3 жыл бұрын
Catback i too like the deeper tone of the invidia
@roymilla6636 2 жыл бұрын
Still like the cat back quite and has pops
@javiconga 4 жыл бұрын
The blue one👍
@dani390z 4 жыл бұрын
Both sound sweet. I love the deep tone on the R400 :D cant believe some ppl say it sounds as stock LOL... I have Beyerdynamic DT770 headphones and the bass is awesome on them. I drive a 2003 Seat Toledo 20VT (I bet you dont even know this car) and I am undecided betweet axleback vs catback thats how I found your video. Guys at the store suggested I start with an axleback and later on I can add remaining parts if I want more power and sound gains.
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Thank you Dani! (Kevin) Kyle is laughing at me because everyone likes his exhaust more. I think you can start with either a catback or axleback, but if you're looking for power gains, you'll definitely have to go for a downpipe (especially for turbocharged cars)
@jasonmckinney1060 4 жыл бұрын
Sound quality on Cat back is way nicer.
@blakewatt7936 4 жыл бұрын
Kyles! Only because I just ordered a remark axle back yesterday for my 19 wrx 😂😂😂
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Which did you get?
@blakewatt7936 4 жыл бұрын
WRXGarage hey! I got the 3.5 inch single wall. I’m nervous they might be a little too loud but we’ll see how it goes. It sounds like it’s pretty loud for a minute when you start it cold but it gets quieter as it warms up. Love your car btw!
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
It won’t be too loud it’s perfect, even my girlfriend likes it lol
@blakewatt7936 4 жыл бұрын
WRXGarage okay fair, can’t argue with those answers 😂😂😂😂
@trentwohlrabe7813 4 жыл бұрын
blakewatt what u got to do is take ur muffler off and drive like that for a day. i’ve been driving mine this that for three months now lol
@OmegaXIIV 4 жыл бұрын
Check out the perrin gunny spoiler.... I think that's what it's called. Looks amazing
@NatureXwars Жыл бұрын
I'm quite torn between the two, on one hand I think the axleback suits the WRX more to hear the rawness of the engine, on the other hand I think the catback elevates the car's prestigeness to make it feel more comparable to higher end sports cars.
@WRXGarage Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! It's all down to everyone's personal opinion, but I do think that resonated catbacks have an overall more sophisticated sound.
@cre8tivegarage157 4 жыл бұрын
Glad we found your channel 😁 subscribed 👍🏽
@marcj.d 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between the double wall and single wall for the Remark Exhaust? Does it make it louder or are they just for the way they look?
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly for looks, but it does change the tone of the exhaust by a very small amount.
@KingDilanco 4 жыл бұрын
Varis wing even a copy looks dope
@chriscarle9982 3 жыл бұрын
I personally love the axle back. Just because I love that loudness . I think when doing an exhaust you definitely go for sound, but the r400 does sound good , when driving . I won’t like the drone when I do my axle back but fuck it
@grumpachu 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought myself a 2018 WRX. Came with a 3in axle back it’s pretty loud but it’s not DEEP. Need to unlock that boxer rumble.
@WRXGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Resonated midpipe will help!
@travisarkanna3375 4 жыл бұрын
Keep the good content up guys liked and subd
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Travis!!
@maverickdorgan2843 4 жыл бұрын
I have an Invidia N1. It was way too quiet until I got a catless downpipe
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
How do you like it now?
@maverickdorgan2843 4 жыл бұрын
@@WRXGarage it's great! Sounds very aggressive and its definitely not too loud. Smells like a racecar too haha
@MrTeddlpounds 3 жыл бұрын
I like GT big wing but realize this is an old video
@jacobk9920 4 жыл бұрын
The silver one barely sounds like it has an exhaust
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Try listening with headphones! The microphone changed its setting so it didn't pickup some of the tonal range
@bubba2692 2 жыл бұрын
3 minutes into the video I realized this is west side field 😂 I lived on east street for 15 years
@WRXGarage 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@bubba2692 2 жыл бұрын
Sent u a message on insta
@franklynlopez7326 2 жыл бұрын
Music kinda killed the vibe for me. But honestly both cars sound good
@ivanknockwood3737 2 жыл бұрын
Grey one for sure!!!
@KyleBezemer 4 жыл бұрын
For both exhausts: Any drone on the highway? I do a LOT of highway driving and am worried about that. Is it possible to keep the car quiet? I live in a Canadian suburb and don't want to disturb my neighbours
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
In terms of drone... Neither one is obnoxious at all. The axleback drones a bit more at a higher tone, but it's still manageable for sure... Also the same on cold starts, with the axleback being louder. You can get axlebacks that have mufflers in them too tho
@andrewparson9832 4 жыл бұрын
i have the remark axle backs and there nice, I'm also straight piped and it's insanely loud. If you do run a down pipe with the remarks, i would definitely get a resonated mid pipe, lots of drone.
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I've been telling Kyle!!
@robinjohansson5365 4 жыл бұрын
hi, can u explain to an exhaustnoob what "drone" is? :)
@andrewparson9832 4 жыл бұрын
@@robinjohansson5365 It's basically a loud humming noise that comes from the exhaust, usually when your on the freeway. Imagine a bumble bee flying around inside your car constantly,. Don't know if that helps at all.
@Dirtracing141 4 жыл бұрын
Remark all the way on all
@zietbukuel 4 жыл бұрын
TBH I like the Axlback sound more.
@tommanning7337 4 жыл бұрын
I think the delete is louder, as far as wing or duckbill, if mine didn’t come with a wing I might lean towards a duckbill only because it doesn’t attract as much attention but I do really love the wing, it all comes down to personal preference. But if ya did go with a duckbill I’d go with color match. That’s just me😁
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation I like the paint match duckbill as well
@tommanning7337 4 жыл бұрын
WRXGarage something aggressive would be a Battle Aero duckbill, those things look amazing
@fireball0845 4 жыл бұрын
I got a wing and it gets a lot of attention I kinda want to get a differ trunk to swap every once a while
@418ii 3 жыл бұрын
Axel back it's a cleaner sound. Best way to describe Axel back = exhaust sounds 🔥 Cat back = sounds like an exhaust problem lol.also feel like your gonna get different sounds from different cars like I have a q50 and I only have axel back exhaust and it sounds like a GTR obv not one but sounds just like one
@knurri 4 жыл бұрын
50" tv?? What a baller!!!
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
😂 he actually got a 65 I think
@peterraps857 4 жыл бұрын
Went Cobb Cat Back on my silver one 2018. My blue one is still stock 2019. May just wait for the new STI.
@suba-dude5516 3 жыл бұрын
Im thinking Cobb in my 20, any issues?
@drewllicious 4 жыл бұрын
YOOO LET ME HAVE THAT GTX 1080 I need it
@Cbwifey215 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered the remark today
@eduardobautista6999 4 жыл бұрын
I switch to the r400 because is not too loud but it sounds way smoother than the crap remark...i use to have remark and sounded like a broken civic lol
@MorganBrown Жыл бұрын
love the catback ;-)
@trentwohlrabe7813 4 жыл бұрын
love u guys video to bad u guys ain’t closer i could join u guys with my red wrx
@dulagaferhatovic1426 4 жыл бұрын
My 2018 wrx had a straight pipe and I loved it, but tickets and living in quiet neighborhood I now have a GrimmSpeed Catted Jpipe and Invidia R400 catback and I love it as well but sometimes I miss the loudness and turbo whistle
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
How did you do the straight pipe? Muffler delete plus catless?
@dulagaferhatovic1426 4 жыл бұрын
WRXGarage yes muffler delete, stock midpipe, and Catted GrimmSpeed jpipe It wasn’t a true 3inch full straight pipe but close enough,
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
How do you like the GS j pipe? I'm currently debating between Cobb, GS and Invidia JP
@dulagaferhatovic1426 4 жыл бұрын
WRXGarage all 3 are good in my opinion, I just felt the quality and performance of the GrimmSpeed was above them, after all the research I did, I have a comparison pic of the j pipe and stock j pipe on my Instagram gugiwrx
@edreans Жыл бұрын
should have done a drive bys as well
@lootbag2405 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at axel back exhaust on an otherwise stock , no tune, wrx... The stock exhaust is really quiet
@WRXGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Axleback exhausts are definitely a good way to add sound! Check out our channel, we have a couple different videos on different axleback options.
@zachstence7948 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say objectively the axleback sounds so good, but in terms of daily driving, I'd probably go with the quieter catback. On that note, does the Invidia catback produce a drone in the cabin? I really love the exhaust tone but I'm worried about that. Also about that 1080, hit me up
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Go check out our full review of the r400 if you're curious about the in cabin sound! There is a tiny bit of drone, but to be honest its pretty unnoticeable. It's still easy to have conversations even at highway speeds. The "drone" is quieter than the road/wind noise.
@rayndog3 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like I had more drone with axlebacks. I've got the invidia N1 dual now, much less drone. My opinion
@MrTeddlpounds 3 жыл бұрын
Turbo spool comes through better with muffler delete
@realtalk1368 4 жыл бұрын
Remark on both
@bambambino23 4 жыл бұрын
I like the blue one way better
@joshuagarza2899 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely like the axle back much better that’s what I have planned for my 2107, but I also have a question did either one of y’all do a tune after you did your exhaust work?
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, for any kind of exhaust mods on these cars other than the downpipe/jpipe, you do not require a tune. I don't think even a protune with these parts, would add any noticeable power... With the catback, maybe 5-10hp only because of the increased diameter of the piping. But the only real power difference will come from the dp/jpipe
@joshuagarza2899 4 жыл бұрын
WRXGarage I kinda guessed that I was just curious if you guys did or not, both of y’all cars look great. I personally went with the dark grey paint, with the blacked out interior.
@misterwub1438 4 жыл бұрын
Aye I live in Connecticut and am trying to decide on what I'm doing to my impreza
@xvnw 3 жыл бұрын
8 months late but do u have just the Impreza or the wrx
@yeahyourerightheresmystupi5352 3 жыл бұрын
@@xvnw most people who have a wrx don’t have Impreza in their vocabulary
@xvnw 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeahyourerightheresmystupi5352 that’s true 😂
@playname4331 4 жыл бұрын
Where’d you get the carbon fiber duckbill? That looks sick I need one to complete my exterior mods
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Raul! I actually bought it from a friend. It's the Rexspeed CF duckbill spoiler. Our buddies at ImportImageRacing definitely have se options to choose from too!
@HellaFish 4 жыл бұрын
Remark axle back is by far way better sounding.
@jaybosher6144 4 жыл бұрын
Kyle's sounds nice but I wonder how it is irl for daily use as well as highway driving
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
No drone at all and highway driving you can barely hear it at 3k rpm but if your trying to speed up you can hear it nicly
@mrbtc5721 2 жыл бұрын
so for axleback i dont have to tune? sorry if stupid question i am new
@WRXGarage 2 жыл бұрын
No tune needed for axleback or catback
@roshintroy1993 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have the link for that axel back exhaust system??
@trentwohlrabe7813 4 жыл бұрын
kyle for loud. you for non drone
@3zkimo479 3 жыл бұрын
Question for Kyle; tune for that thing or no?
@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын
No tune on either car in this video.
@burhanuddin7782 3 жыл бұрын
The blue won the sound and quality but that duck wing is amazing on the silver one😍😍 what it's called that wing please discription?
@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Rexspeed carbon fiber duckbill!
@burhanuddin7782 3 жыл бұрын
@@WRXGarage Thank you very much!!
@matthewgraham9411 Жыл бұрын
The R400 Catback is MUCH BETTER SOUNDING. The Axelback sounds like a jacked up lawnmower.
@brianmitcheal4578 4 жыл бұрын
Lol all I could hear is the wind for the sliver subie
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
😂 trust me.. you can hear it in person. Especially when it pops between shifts
@izack367 2 ай бұрын
catback won straight and fair
@617snapperhead 4 жыл бұрын
blue wrx takes it
@Notuser112 3 жыл бұрын
So all the cars have done to them is the axle back exhaust??
@Notuser112 3 жыл бұрын
And the cat back
@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын
At the time of this video, yes.
@vancevance6864 2 жыл бұрын
Axleback wins, only because the catback was resonated and has the mini mufflers
@leighcole9770 Жыл бұрын
Axle back sounds better and is much louder. If the cat back system had no resonator it would be a different story.
@echocharlie9812 2 жыл бұрын
wing!! thats my choice what i did.
@fignewton8667 3 жыл бұрын
do either of you have a tune done or are those stock maps?
@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын
In this video both are on stock maps
@xcertified_d5907 3 жыл бұрын
Do you guys know what is such a extreme loud exhaust? I mostly just want an exhaust for the loudness
@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Tomei
@juanjoy5022 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys would the remark axle back muffler deletes fit the invidia exhaust or no
@WRXGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Invidia downpipe and midpipe?
@ericouimette9690 4 жыл бұрын
Your sounds better. His carbon fiber placement looks better.
@Rough-inevitable 4 жыл бұрын
Duckbill does not look very gd on that model wrx. Id say go sti unless you got got a fast wrx than get gt wing. Just my 2c
@mr.armada8130 3 жыл бұрын
Silver car wins all around. Blue one sounds cheap like the mufflers fell off
@Joseph-ro3el 4 жыл бұрын
are axle backs legal
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Completely depends on where you live! For the most part, exhaust laws are barely ever enforced, even in California. There are stock cars approved by the EPA that don't meet certain states regulations, and the states still sell them. At the end of the day, as long as you're car isn't absolutely obnoxious and you're not driving like a jerk, you should be fine.
@robbyhoonigan7760 4 жыл бұрын
Good video , I build pcs too ! I cant wait to get my remark exhaust for my 2019 wrx
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! What's your PC setup?
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Kevin's rocking a 7700k with 240mm rad, gtx 1080, 32g Corsair ram, on a msi 270 sli pro atx running on a 2k monitor
@marcjones5862 4 жыл бұрын
Robby Hoonigan me too! 9900k, 2080 super all on water ;)
@WRXGarage 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcjones5862 Damn Marc! i really need to up my game.
@marcjones5862 4 жыл бұрын
WRXGarage haha couldn’t help myself