Consumer Reporter Carmel Cafiero explains the upcoming Miami network affiliation switch. Courtesy: Louis Wolfson II Florida Moving Image Archive
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@themightyjaybird12 жыл бұрын
Fast-forward to 2012. WSVN is one of the strongest television stations in South Florida, with a very news-intensive schedule. They run 5 hours of morning news, an hour of news at noon, three more hours starting at 4 PM, and an hour and a half starting at 10 pm. Channel 7 is one of the biggest Fox affiliates in the country. After the digital switch, WSVN moved their digital signal from channel 8 back to 7. They now share a new digital transmitter site with WPLG Channel 10.
@altfactor6 жыл бұрын
WSVN is expected to lose it's Fox affiliation sometime between this fall (2018) and early 2019, since Fox has just bought WSFL in that city.
@marcus8135 жыл бұрын
@@altfactor It looks as if E.W. Scripps is gonna get WSFL instead, but the recently launched Fox Corporation (21st Century Fox's successor) could still end up cutting a deal with E.W. Scripps to put FOX on that station anyway. Stay tuned!
@theamazingDrBob4 жыл бұрын
That Cincinnati based company ended up buying WSFL. Channel 7 remains affiliated with the Fox network.
@e.f.t.v.836117 жыл бұрын
WSVN did become a FOX station in 1989, but FOX only broadcast on the weekends back then. The rest of the week, the station was an independent. Most FOX stations back then were small and mostly UHF channels.
@jonathantamayo69397 жыл бұрын
E.F.T.V. idi
@NewmanNewsman12 жыл бұрын
Yes. WTVJ moved its tower during the switch to digital broadcasting. I believe it's now at the Dade-Broward line with everyone else.
@LogoAttitude15 жыл бұрын
WSVN became a model FOX station, by not focusing on general entertainment, but a more news-intensive operation. It became more hard-hitting too, also influencing the news operations of other FOX stations. New World's former Big 3 stations that went to FOX followed a similar patten. Who knows? One day, FOX just might buy WSVN.
@feelunknown17703 жыл бұрын
2:06 - But in 1995, CBS South Florida returned to Channel 4 under the "WFOR" call sign, while WTVJ NBC South Florida moved to Channel 6.
@lisaweathers67833 жыл бұрын
true plus you also heard at the analog signal it was fresh
@LogoAttitude15 жыл бұрын
FOX moving to WSVN was a major coup for the young network, because WSVN had been an NBC affiliate for years. FOX was probably more than pleased to get its programming onto a longtime Big 3 station back then. As an NBC affiliate, WSVN was a frequent pre-empter of programs, but with FOX they usually only preempted the cartoons and Fox News Sun. Morn. (FOX programs for fewer hours than the Big 3, and FNSM can also be seen on FNC)
@NewmanNewsman17 жыл бұрын
WCIX and WTVJ only switched broadcast towers. The change was part of a complicated deal between CBS and NBC involving several different stations and markets. WTVJ went from broadcasting on Ch. 4 to Ch. 6. WCIX went from Ch. 6 to Ch 4. WCIX simultaneously switched its call letters to WFOR. I have both channel switches posted on my page.
@jeffreybaker1005 жыл бұрын
It was almost like a trend that was happening back then with tv stations swapping network affiliations. I remember in the summer of 1989 in Rochester, NY their NBC and CBS network affiliate stations swapped
@dimitriberozny3729 Жыл бұрын
Because General Electric bought channel 10 in Rochester New York and had Hubbard Broadcasting Company managing the station!! This worked out great because General Electric installed a digital transmitter for the new NBC 10 in Rochester New York.
@Cloud39.15 жыл бұрын
Nope it was just a local switch, WSVN went to FOX, WTVJ went to NBC, and WCIX (now WFOR) went to CBS. In 1994-95 is the switch really went nationwide as FOX bought broadcast rights to the NFL (NFC Games) whereas Group Westinghouse was bought by CBS and so on, causing a handful of stations across the country to switch some of which are now owned and operated.
@ndulmillenium3 жыл бұрын
At least, they showed the glimpse.
@revinhatol10 жыл бұрын
Actually, Channel 6 is not independent. It is a Fox Affiliate. And since next week, Channel 7 will air some syndicated shows and some Fox shows.
@kurtkauffman43269 жыл бұрын
U are right revin hatol!,It will do that alright!.
@JayRudko4 жыл бұрын
WSVN became the Fox affiliate on January 1, 1989. WCIX, the previous Fox affiliate, became a CBS O&O that same day. WTVJ, the former CBS affiliate, became an NBC station that day. NBC bought the station in 1988, but had to run it as a CBS affiliate until WSVN's affiliation agreement ran out.
@ndulmillenium3 жыл бұрын
Fox weren't that big until 1994
@rockvilleravenАй бұрын
@@ndulmilleniumThe thing that made Fox a major network was when they got the NFC rights from CBS.
@1985OldSkool13 жыл бұрын
This must have been at the tail end of December 1988.
@DonDonP114 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Of course, at the time of this news story from 1988 uploaded here, there was one television program that continued to air on WCIX-TV-6 (now WFOR CBS 4) after it became a CBS O&O: the then-nationally-syndicated, Emmy award-winning 'Star Trek: The Next Generation', which ended its seven-year run on the formerly-named WCIX in 1994 with the two-hour series finale 'All Good Things...' Today, 'Star Trek' is owned by CBS as well.
@fhs2004jtwwf200710 жыл бұрын
3:29 this entrance is pure gold!!
@altfactor4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P., Ed Ansin.
@marcus81312 жыл бұрын
That's the affiliation switch that a ripple effect across FOX's stations that air news now. Many of FOX's O&Os do the news just like WSVN 7 did it and programmed in similar ways. WSVN 7 became a rare news-intensive FOX affiliate, which looks commonplace now among FOX stations that used to be affiliated with CBS, ABC or, in 7's case, NBC. I know about it since WTVT did the same thing in Tampa after the New World Communications deal on Dec. 12, 1994.
@Musicradio77Network8 жыл бұрын
In New York City, nothing has changed in the last 65 years. WCBS-TV has channel 2, WNBC-TV has channel 4, WABC-TV has channel 7, but I don't think they going to move affiliations to different channels, no way. These three TV stations in New York City are iconics and it should leave them alone.
@newstarcadefan6 жыл бұрын
Well that...and they're owned and operated by the networks.
@devares20066 жыл бұрын
@Jozar S., the Tribune-Sinclair merger isn't going through.
@devares20066 жыл бұрын
@Jozar S. I'm aware.
@blatheringblathers3475 жыл бұрын
@@devares2006 We may be happy that they killed the Sincrap-Tribune murd.... uh merger, but with Nexstar it is going to be hell of a lot worse with Perry Sook that no good psychopath.
@erensalyer97055 жыл бұрын
The call signs are too perfect for any affiliation change. WPIX is in for it's money, however.
@altfactor7 жыл бұрын
With the digital transition, didn't Channel 6 finally move their transmitter to the Dade antenna farm??
@newstarcadefan6 жыл бұрын
They did. In the Analog era, they couldn't be on the transmitter farm because they would interfere with WKMG in Orlando.
@marcus8135 жыл бұрын
@@newstarcadefan That played a huge role in the WPB DMA having its own massive affiliation switch. WPEC had to switch from ABC to CBS at the latter network's urging just to give parts of Broward County CBS programming without pay TV. It also caused WPBF, which was gonna sign on as an independent, to change course by selling many, if not all, of its syndicated sitcoms and cartoons so it could jump to ABC and WTVX, which was left as an indy, to fold its beleaguered news department.
@newstarcadefan5 жыл бұрын
@@marcus813 exactly right. WTVX is owned by Sinclair and is a sister to WPEC (the station that took their CBS affiliation away from them.
@RustyMuck3 жыл бұрын
Not only that, WTVJ moved back on the channel 4 tower with the DTV switch!
@videooblivion3 жыл бұрын
These people didn't know on which station those shows were broadcast *before* the switch!
@SpittingKitty16 жыл бұрын
There are times when I visit Miami and still forget the channel line ups. LOL
@jmlim70956 жыл бұрын
For 15 months, wasn't it the case that WTVJ owned by one 'Big 3' network (NBC) but at the same time affiliated with another (CBS)?
@JakeBechtold5 жыл бұрын
That was part of the reason WSVN ended up going independent. CBS and NBC wanted to swap in 1987 (as NBC had already competed its purchase of WTVJ) but WSVN had a deal with NBC through 1988 and didn't want to give it up. Thus, NBC had to operate WTVJ as a CBS affiliate for a while. Both networks were so upset that CBS opted for the lesser signal of WCIX instead of making a deal with WSVN. (CBS and NBC would end up swapping licenses in 1995 as result of the Group W deal in Philly)
@jrdavis19922 жыл бұрын
CBS's time on Channel 6 was short lived, as they (WCIX/WFOR) would take back CBS's original spot on Channel 4 in 1995 as part of a swap between them and WTVJ. Basically: they swapped positions on the dial, taking their network affiliations with them in doing so.
@e.f.t.v.836116 жыл бұрын
Not mentioned here was the ripple effect of the 1989 Miami affiliate changes.Because CBS moved then to channel 6 and Broward county would find it very difficult to get the station. WPEC-12 also changed affiliation from ABC to CBS. The West Palm Beach area stations were watched very clearly in Broward back then. The West Palm Beach/Fort Pierce stations involved in this 1989 switch were WPEC-12 from ABC to CBS, WTVX-34 lost CBS and became independent while ABC went to the brand new WPBF-25.
@mochafiend17 жыл бұрын
Channel 4, was once a CBS affiliate, now (and currently), it's back to being a CBS affiliate, in the fall of 1995. Crazy, huh?
@ScoopNemeth3 жыл бұрын
CBS on Channel 4...awesome the second time around AS WFOR!!!
@marcosjuarez78093 жыл бұрын
Actually, WTVJ is still stuck with NBC since January 1989. The only that have changed are the channel numbers which went from 4 to 6 since 1995. It is WFOR (formerly known as WCIX) have stuck with CBS after they left WTVJ and WSVN opted out to have CBS affiliation. Sunbeam Television which owns WSVN said "thanks, but not thanks" to have CBS affiliation. That is why the networks do not go to loyal viewers. The networks go where the money is.
@marcus81316 жыл бұрын
Maybe it still seems independent because it goes against the FOX Mandate (FOX 7 or FOX Miami/South Florida), although it really wasn't after the big switch. Nonetheless, it set the tone for other FOX stations in terms of how news is presented.
@NewmanNewsman13 жыл бұрын
@1985OldSkool It did. This aired in the last week of 1988, days before the switch.
@seabassseabass88355 жыл бұрын
I remembered when this happened. Missed an episode of Riptide due to the confusion 😂😂😂😂
@marcosjuarez78098 жыл бұрын
I was born on October 23, 1989 just months after the big TV flip-flop. WTVJ now carries the peacock and still is an NBC O&O station to this day. But I never like WSVN, CBS, neither Fox. One thing for sure is that WSVN's newsplex is what I called the "Newsroom of Doom" and they now have flamboyant style of local news. Sunbean Television is facing a similar fate to this day because they also own WHDH in Boston and they, like WSVN, are losing its affiliation with NBC. I read about it in Wikipedia and saw some KZfaq videos about it.
@marcosjuarez78098 жыл бұрын
I figure that this could happen again if WFOR-TV (formerly WCIX-TV) doesn't keep up with the competition along with WTVJ, WSVN, and WPLG because they start their early evening newscast at 4 PM. WFOR-TV doesn't start their every evening newscast until 5 PM which means bad news for CBS and people are saying, "I can't wait until 5 PM to watch the news because I can watch the news at 4 PM." Who knows, but time would tell that this could happen again. And besides, the networks go where the money is and not the loyal TV viewer because TV broadcasting is a money-making business.
@newstarcadefan6 жыл бұрын
That actually can't happen since WFOR/WBFS both are CBS owned and operated stations.
@Pacmannion17 жыл бұрын
Oh lord! It's Darth Ansin! And geeze... I wasn't expect Joel Cheatwood... to look... soo.. nerdy.
@NewmanNewsman15 жыл бұрын
"Inside Story" later became "Inside Report." Neither was connected to "Inside Edition."
@kjkj63625 жыл бұрын
When Carmel said “in order to do Dallas” I was like what? I don’t think she thought that out
@thisguyhere66414 жыл бұрын
Debbie Does Dallas! That's probably reason enough why Carmel mentioned the line "in order to do Dallas!"
@robphilll227 жыл бұрын
7 should be an ABC station.
@newstarcadefan6 жыл бұрын
That ain't happening. WPLG is more than happy with ABC and they're not giving up without lofty prices.
@altfactor6 жыл бұрын
WPLG is one of ABC's strongest affiliates.
@canadianmike7113 жыл бұрын
WHDH was as WNAC
@consumingtheeyeballs16 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness I was born after this.
@tyreeharrellwright21646 жыл бұрын
wsvn fox 7 owned by sunbream television
@colonelpotter2 жыл бұрын
Instead of the big switch CBS had 2 stations in Philadelphia ,NBC had lost it's station there but it had WMGM-TV in Atlantic City/Wildwood and just boosted it's power to force CBS to sell a station.
@AutisticShyGuy4 жыл бұрын
Channel 4(WTVJ): CBS -> NBC Channel 6(WCIX): Fox -> CBS Channel 7(WSVN): NBC -> Fox
@wendycampbell61658 жыл бұрын
Happy 27th anniversary wsvn 7 wtvj 6 and wfor 4
@dimitriberozny37292 жыл бұрын
In a few years,it becomes a FOX affiliate.
@NewmanNewsman13 жыл бұрын
@altfactor I've never heard of that proposal.
@notnok5595Ай бұрын
“Time to straighten out South Florida’s TV players. In 1989, Channel 7 (WSVN), which used to show NBC programs, bids adieu to the Peacock and becomes an independent•. On Channel 7, you will find, among other things, a hour-long 10:00 newscast and 8:00 movie. (•Note: the independent status is incorrect; The stations involved were actually affiliated with Fox, which only offered programming in weekends at the time, making the affiliates behave as de-facto independent stations.) Channel 4 (WTVJ, now Channel 6) says so long to CBS and picks up the Peacock, since channel 4 is now an NBC owned-and-operated station. Shows like ‘Bill Cosby’ and ‘Cheers’ will be found here. Channel 6 (WCIX, now WFOR 4), meanwhile, which used to be an independent•, will be carrying CBS programs, because it too has became a network owned-and-operated station. If you’re looking for ‘60 Minutes’, look to Channel 6.”
@Chuloloc14 жыл бұрын
Awesome. The way things used to be back in Florida during the late 80's. By the way, I used to have a crush on Penny Daniels. I just hope she and her family are doing well these days and also, Sally Fitz.
@altfactor Жыл бұрын
WPLG Channel 10 was the big winner in both Miami affiliation swaps. But only because they reportedly turned down an offer in 1994 to join Fox.
@user-ps5ux2sp6w Жыл бұрын
kurokawa hispanic akihito!
@Justin-Hill-19879 жыл бұрын
WSVN started out as an NBC affiliate, then an independent affiliate with a secondary FOX affiliation. WSVN is now a full-time FOX affiliate.
@madden80218 жыл бұрын
+Justin Hill But they refuse to rename their news name from WSVN 7 News to Fox 7 News.
@Justin-Hill-19878 жыл бұрын
madden8021 They use the FOX name sparingly, only using it in advertisements.
@madden80218 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@Ritmo9657 жыл бұрын
Justin Hill that's cool a orady now that
@jerseyfla17 жыл бұрын
Yes they were but at that time Fox only had programming on Saturday and Sundays (I think) so they didn't really consider themselves as a network affiliate at that time.
@gidzmobug23237 жыл бұрын
so who's where now?
@MrFreshman9214 жыл бұрын
My god look how pretty and young Carmel Cafiero look here...i cant believe she's been with wsvn for over 20 years
@NewmanNewsman14 жыл бұрын
@Padrigfilms Because, at the time, Fox only programmed 2 nights a week. It wasn't the full-fledged network it is today.
@CyborgNinja716 жыл бұрын
I know there are several large satellites at their studio in Miramar. I don't know if it transmits there.
@ParanormalRob12 жыл бұрын
Has the problem of channel 6's signal been fixed?
@JayRudko4 жыл бұрын
Since the digital switch, yes. I believe the tower in Princeton was dismantled.
@Rebmetpes46 жыл бұрын
...and they went right back to their affiliates: cbs 4 and nbc 6, both network o&o!
@kmart369712 жыл бұрын
but 1995 when channel 4 WTVJ move to CHANNEL 6 NBC 6 and channel 6 wcix CBS now wfor move to ch 4
@kaiokendo11 жыл бұрын
channel6 changes to cnnbcbs XD
@jeffreybaker1005 жыл бұрын
Penny Daniels once worked at WKBW TV Channel 7 in Buffalo. ABC affiliate
@JimmySand915 жыл бұрын
Well the plantiff and defendant have to give consent before they go on a court show, and they're all civil cases so nobody needs to worry about Judge Judy presiding over a double murder trial.
@thisguyhere66416 жыл бұрын
In 1988, seven years before The Big Switch came to Denver, it came to Miami! Why?! Because WTVJ Channel 4 went from CBS to NBC, WSVN Channel 7 went from NBC to FOX, and WCIX Channel 6 went from FOX to CBS! Then in 1995, WTVJ moved to Channel 6, and WCIX moved to Channel 4 and became WFOR!
@grahambrunk15 жыл бұрын
I don't think that was the only reason for their success.
@LeroyBright16 жыл бұрын
Hope they bring back the original Miami-Ft. Lauderda;e TV Network lineup!CBS-4,Fox 6,NBC 7 and ABC 10.
@JayRudko4 жыл бұрын
Why? It doesn't matter anymore.
@thxlopez5 ай бұрын
Fox 7 didn’t really became a full-week network till 1993-1994 and then outbid cbs for nfl Sunday games
@LogoAttitude15 жыл бұрын
the digital signal reaches the north part of the market better, so that problem is gone
@altfactor13 жыл бұрын
Around that time, didn't the FCC consider moving Channel 7 down to the Keys, and moving WSVN to a new UHF allocation??
@JayRudko4 жыл бұрын
No! Where did that come from? Prior to the digital switch, what full-power VHF station, in its right mind, would want to go to UHF? WSVN broadcasts on channel 9 now with their digital signal; that's where it would have made sense to go to UHF, since that band seems to work better for digital TV than VHF.
@canadianmike711 Жыл бұрын
Fox been on channel 7 since 1989
@user-ps5ux2sp6w Жыл бұрын
kurokawa kokujin akihito!
@LogoAttitude15 жыл бұрын
WTVJ's sale has been canceled.
@chimaamanambu6067 Жыл бұрын
At the time WSVN switched to Fox, the network never aired programming on weekdays.
@ScoopNemeth3 жыл бұрын
3:07 - Not true Carmel. You're gonna be a FOX affiliate. Which means "This is the Year, The Year for FOX 7!"
@marcosjuarez78093 жыл бұрын
Actually, between 1989 and 1993 since WSVN lost its affiliation with NBC, the Fox network did not have a full-time prime time scheduling of its programing. That is until in 1993, the Fox network expanded its prime time scheduling because they were on the verge of buying broadcasting rights for the National Football League's NFC package from CBS.
@matthewcampbell79855 жыл бұрын
January 1st 2019 30th anniversary 7 Fox 4/6 nbc 6/4 CBS well done all 3.
@CyborgNinja716 жыл бұрын
Doesn't 6 transmit in Miramar now as well, since about 2002?
@RustyMuck4 жыл бұрын
CyborgNinja7 WTVJ 6 officially moved back to the old channel 4 tower with the DTV switch in 2009.
@jamesklatt2 жыл бұрын
Is WSVN now a fox station?
@madden8021 Жыл бұрын
Still is but doesn't want the Fox news type branding like fox 7 news or something like that.
@DVSyoutube6 жыл бұрын
Uh, oh. Where's FOX?
@chutefan20116 жыл бұрын
channel 7
@DVSyoutube6 жыл бұрын
@@chutefan2011 Yeah. That's right. At that time, NBC Peacock flew to channel 4(WTVJ, currently on channel 6), CBS eye saw the way to channel 6(WCIX, switched to channel 4 and became WFOR-TV in 1995.) Meanwhile, WPLG-TV, channel 10, kept their relationship with ABC. WSVN, channel 7, switched as an independent station, later they picked FOX.
@RustyMuck4 жыл бұрын
Fox only programmed one night a week by that point. They had just dropped the nightly "The Late Show" after multiple iterations and multiple hosts, one of which was Arsenio Hall (he got his own syndication deal with Paramount).
@tomwilliams67688 жыл бұрын
it would've made more sense to make wsvn abc
@1thetvzone8 жыл бұрын
Naw, ABC was happy with WPLG/ Channel 10 they were tops in the ratings...
@wendycampbell61658 жыл бұрын
No they not ABC stays with wplg
@1thetvzone8 жыл бұрын
Wendy Campbell Huh? what are you talking about? At that time WPLG was #1 in the market Ann Bishop and had huge ratings, so ABC/WPLG stayed together...There still ABC to this day.
@kurtkauffman43268 жыл бұрын
+thetvzone Right you are!,Channel 10 had no desire to change any Network Affiliations.It now stays on ABC & has been doing it since its start-up on 11/20/1961.