look at zx25r

kx450xc

The KLX300 sm seems more interesting all the time.

Yes the market is so hungry for cheaper, reliable, and somewhat upto date dual sport/supermotos. I wish honda would make a CRF300SM.

Wish it were like 30-40 pounds lighter. Especially when ktm 500 excs weigh around $250 with triple the power

not in sweden theyr aint :( here a supermoto 450cc cost like 15 000usd. for that you can get a 600cc sport bike from honda or kawasaki and still have 2000-4000usd left over for gas and upgrades. like how the fuck does a 450cc supermoto cost that mutch. theres mutch mutch less tecnology less plastics to cover the thing up in. it should be cheaper in every possible way but it's so god damn expensive

Sumo 4 life. 5th gare!

​@@rampage3337 Yeah 15k doesnt make sense, in the us the 450rl is 10k, which is a little more than the 450x its based on (never got the rl branding its based on the x not r...), most of the cost is in frame and suspension, the 450rl comes with great suspension and only weighs around 300lbs, and once you fix the ignition is around 50 horse, which although is slower than the 600rr (400lbs 100 horse) still gives you a bike that will do most of what a 600rr will do, and a whole lot more (and over a grand cheaper after the ignition) and the dual-sports seem to hold their value much better than the sport bikes

I bet that's a great sound!

Agreed! High rpm 4cylinder bikes are nice, but usually too fast to really ride hard on the street...

A few months ago Kawasaki announced the 2021 ZX-25R, 250 4cyl, 17000rpm, its already sold out in my country. expensive as hell obviously

We had the ZX2R here in the 90's... a 4cyl 250cc. It competed with thr CBR250RR. Is a ZX25R a bigger version? Or exactly the same?

@@Amundsenkalmah more expensive then a 600?

I see that, nice

So, still waiting on that comment related to the video

@@gnargnar2112 I’ve been rewatching this video for 3 days. Help

No Kawasaki is king they just make stupid business decisions and make underpowered machines like their klx 300 supermoto it should be a 400 or 450

@@Chase_01 Kawasaki is majorly flawed in many aspects

I agree

Well I do hehehe

Was the dog ok?

@@jetts427 yes, dog was fine. kept running away.

I think if Suzuki made an EFI DRZ with a 6th gear it would sell like hotcakes

haha yes!

the ZX-25R has a 250cc inline-4, a 17.5 redline, and supposedly 50 hp.

I agree, a bigger ninja 400 that is not as expensive as the zx6r.

Do you have anything to compare it to, to give us some perspective?

@@kignacio yeah, like a crf300

@@kignacio yea like a wr250r 10 pounds heavier , same top speed , worst suspension

@@stvnmyrg6984 lol

I think it is the best looking retro 4cyl. But I also test rode one and was yawning. I’m spoiled by twin torque I guess. I really wanted to like it because of its looks though.

@@kignacio yawning? Lol what bikes do you ride? 😂

@@indoctrinate4740 I hear you there, I feel like I didn’t fully enjoy the bike on the 20 minute test ride and who knows what mode or KTRC it may have been in but I didn’t mess with modes upon leaving. My bike is a 2017 T100 instant diesel power torque from 2000 rpm. And the Street Triple I rode after the Kawi was night and day 10x more smiles. I still live that RS though. If I lived by the Autobahn I’d definitely own one.

@@kignacio not sure diesel powers the most exciting way to describe a bike buddy 😂 but I get what you mean, I think they describe it a characterful. The RS does actually have good torque tho,and pulls really well just the fact it's a 4 cylinder fools you into thinking you need to rev the tits off it and keep it in the power band. It almost has as much torque as hp

There he is!! My dude!

@@TheGardenSnake *BIG kisses*

Haha a little self discipline

if only it was a little bigger, but yes I agree

What's crazy is that the WR250R went away for 2021 but honda and kawi stepped up their 250's to 300's. Yamaha kinda left the door open there.

@@TheGardenSnake I know, it would be crazy for them to not fill the void. I love the little quarter R1 engine in the WR250R. It is the perfect second bike for SM and trails.

A 250 or around there , a 600/650 and a 1000 but anything sub 600cc is just a rarity unless 90s gpz

Leave, come over here

@@TheGardenSnake to be fair. I'm pretty sure there's been something snuck in by MPs/politicians that brexit actually means Britons can't exit the country to become citizens elsewere

@@TheGardenSnake that would be cool but I'd have to give up on universal free healthcare, free education, not being constantly afraid of someone with a gun, sensible drug abuse approaches, supportive social systems that help my countrymen live a dignified life, a functioning democracy, my most basic privacy protection, and the sense of living in a society where everyone cares for each other instead of just for themselves. But other than that, it'd be cool!

@@CriticalRider yup it's terrible here, people should stop migrating here. They should all go over there. Get the word out

460 lbs and 40 hp....

Thanks for the insight from an owner!

@@TheGardenSnake I loved that bike. I was sad when I had to get rid of it. Couldn't afford it any more.

Or what if they did a KLX400 with the twin 400 motor....

I guess I do legitimately have some insight but I feel weird being like "well this is how it is blablabla"

just a bit

I bet an ecu flash and it’s the same power. But it’s close enough.

​@@TheGardenSnake just about all the geometries are different. including the shape of the muffler... both the header shape and the muffler internals are significantly different. so i doubt an ecu flash would make it the same. the dyno results look very similar, but the rs torque curve is a bit more wavy. so i think if they could have, they would have made it exactly the same, but they were more concerned with how it looks, and how the exhaust note sounds. all the reviews say that it feels like it has much more torque down low. it does have more, but only like 3-4 ftlbs, and only for a very short range. the other geometries are different too, like rake/trail, wheelbase, footpeg position, seat height/shape... so it's going to sit and handle differently. even slightly different geometries can drastically change feel and handling. i only brought it up because all the reviews i've seen agree that they're not the same. whatever they did to the engine, everyone says that it sounds and feels very different. so just trust me i'm an expert... at watching youtube videos about this type of thing! i do ride a hell of a lot (maybe 80k miles so far), but i've only owned three bikes. and i do all my own regular maintenance, so maybe i'm kind of a newb, but not a complete newb. just about every review on the rs will mention a little of how it's different, but there is one good direct comparison between the two. if you have time, maybe check it out... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMiPeKhott7WZ3k.html talk about the rs starts at 4.36 one of my bikes is a z900, and i can't leave without saying how fucking great of a bike it is. cheers!

Also been here since you made a clash of clans clan with Fireguy lol

Favorite past moment was when he was impaled by a political campaign sign while riding through the grass. 😂

nice

😂

I got rid of my Grom and got the FZ. I regret it too but also the FZ make's so much more sense. Since I live in a town not connected directly to any others I have to always get on the highway to ride. So I was having to truck my grom into town to ride. That was silly.

hahaha sorry bro

Haha I hear that

I could start with united launch alliance, then do spaceX

haha it's so silly but I like it too