And it wasn't just the last race, it was the last lap of the entire season. Plus it was between two different constructors. Definitely was an epic season!

“Hold my 5 lapped cars”

Yes

They read the guide on how to make cookie cutter videos with no effort

and Im loving it....

Thank you Benjamin Ringrose for not using the overused "Yes" meme like Tarun Ephrem did

*Monaco 1996 has entered the chat*

@@thelonesculler USA 2006 **Let me One up you**

@@luggatz4460 2005**

Formula E has had several parallels with the early days of F1

@@luggatz4460 USA 2005 had 6 finishers, Monaco 1996 had 4 finishers. So you're wrong there

they should bring them out for a race.

Watch the 2016 championship deciding grand prix ..... How selfish ur Hamilton is... And by the way anyone can win in mercedes.... Watch George

@@Rehan83587 No one said it was hard for him to win in a Mercedes. It's an undeniable fact that Lewis would have an idiotic amount of medals if every podium got him one. I dont particularly like Hamilton nor Mercedes, but I hate when people have to hate every time anyone mentions either of them. It's just disruptive for the sport.

@@AnimalzyNL Exactly and people say anyone could win a merc but the real question is how much would win against lewis

@@Rehan83587 he wanted to win the championship why wouldn't he have been?

You’re the only one I’ve seen here who feels the same way. I watch f1 only because of Massa, those seasons. When he raced, my heart beat faster, I used to cry. I wish he won more races after 2008

I am a Hamilton fan since 2007

@@f1central449 good for you

Hamilton's loss in 2007 hurts the most for me

Oh get over it mate...

While I wouldn’t change this current qualifying format for any love or money …… I would bring it back for Monza and/or any track that has any tendency to have drivers go super slow then fast like in track cycling purely to get the slipstream …… that’s why indycar only has single car run qualifying format for all its oval tracks like Indy which is a four lap run for qualifying positions

Problems came with track evolution and weather changes

It's like in most sports where you go a certain distance to get the best time possible. You don't try again and again until you are satisfied with your time in 100 m sprint, or skiing (either downhill or cross-country), or WRC. So I at least wouldn't see this as a weird change, TBH.

There is only one problem. The track is just an oval.

@@DailyShit. …this isnt indy or nascar

@@davestephens3246 r/whooosh detected?

@@afiqahmad389 Yes, from you. Dave was obviously joking.

Don't forget the mandatory smoking and wearing of neck ties

@@davestephens3246 Or scotch. Bourbon is also acceptable.

@@afiqahmad389 Call an r/whooosh... but not for me!

I still remember how stupid that radio conversation was: “Nico can you retire the car please.” “Do I have to? I’d rather finish the championship on track if I can.” “Ok stay out” Team radio is so dumb at times 🤦‍♂️

@@EddieVanAidan what's dumb about it?

@@QasimAli-to5lk that they asked to retire the car because of a problem, but they were also totally fine with him carrying on racing, so why ask in the first place lol

@@EddieVanAidan to save the engine maybe

@@UNKNOWN-zr9yw I assume so, but it was the final round and they didn't even argue with Nico lol

Senna would love that.

I thought at first he meant they were just swapping the trophies at the podium for medals, and even that kind of changes the look and feel of the sport.

@@takatamiyagawa5688 Think medals are given only for the WDC & not individual race wins?

It's the stupid system in place for NASCAR right now

We need that Rule again to stop Mercedes dominance.

@@WhiteNinjainblack Merc dominance isn't related to tyre manufacturer though, since there's only one, so it wouldn't mean much

@Kai Mercero Student Yeah, but the tyre differences are down to the car themselves and strats, the tyres available are the same for all teams. Everyone gets Pirellis. That rule was central for breaking Ferrari dominance because their Bridgestone tyres were less suited to the no tyre change rule and failed to adapt.

@Kai Mercero Student In that case wouldn't it mean that removing tyre changes would then benefit the mercs? lmao, still wouldn't fit the comment of the other dude.

@Kai Mercero Student Sure, that's why I said "the other dude". The comment I had responded to had claimed that "we need that rule again [said rule being the no tyre changes one] to stop Mercedes dominance". If Mercs are being screwed in tyre changes, bringing said rule back would, if anything, help Mercedes. I don't see how anything I said is wrong here.

The comment I was looking for

I think it's missing tsunofa and gasly halo's too

Give him Mazepin’s halo.

For a second I thought you were referring to the safety halo on F1 cars lol

@@KevinKickChannel same hahaha

Bernie crackhead hours*

Absolutely. Then if one of the cars crashes near the end, as happened to poor Charles at Monaco (and no, it wasn't done on purpose, I'd bet everything I have on that. Channel 4's presenters teased him about it - DC & Mark Webber - [they were pretty much laughing as the subject was brought up], he said he'd have been a lot more subtle and wouldn't have crashed if he wanted to do that 😂), it wouldn't affect anyone so badly. The crash prevented a number of potentially faster runs, so if they had the shootout for the top 10 (where the following car usually goes out on their warm-up lap when the timed car is on the fast lap, so it does take an age to get through it - like in FE), and if one crashed or packed in, the following car could return to the pits and reset. Actually, there's a lot to be said for FE's qually, because they do Q1, as it were, in batches of c.5 cars (depending on entry numbers), with the top 5 from the previous race going out first and effectively sweeping the track, and so on to the slowest in the last race going last. It gives a better chance for a car/driver who'd been taken out or broken down to get near the front of the grid. The only thing I don't like about FE is the very biased "fan boost". It's the same group of drivers over and over. They should remove the first winners of the fan boost from the next races, and carry on like that until every driver has a chance at it. If the race is being shown at stupid o'clock in the morning in a few time zones, the drivers who are from the countries with a similar time zone to the race will always have an advantage because their fans are awake! I know they try to cover the globe, but it's not an equal share. Besides, it's such an artificial thing, I hate it!

There is going to be issue with track evolution, last on track has the best track. Who is going to be last? Take the Rally approach, with most points go first and with least points go last? There is also changing weather, atm it is on teams to figure it out and if you get it better than others, you made a good choice, if not, it is going to be bad call from team, but if it is FIA order, last out will be penalized just because of the system. What do you have in mind?

World Superbikes is the originator of this and called it SUPERPOLE

For me it is 2007.Hamilton lost it by just 1 point exactly like Massa.

@@htk8581 at least Hamilton won championsips

@@stepladder3257 He would have beaten Schumacher's title record by now if he had the championship.

@Gökhan Kaya Don't forget the mistake in Brazil.

@@htk8581 He was driving a stolen Ferrari, would have been the biggest scandal in the whole F1 history

Massa would have won with the good ole 10-6-4-3-2-1 system.

Chill their just testing it

@@sixtenallingersandgren6674 I literally just said I think it won't go well why do I need to chill?

These dudes are clowns

@@whitewolf8051 ok maybe i worded it wrong. I mean if its bad then its fine because they are just testing it

Sprint will be there definitely

If a rule can be exploited, it will be exploited, that's how F1 has always operated.

I really like the idea, if you track the points and discards you can get some really interesting tactics, and it certainly encourages risk taking. It is present in other sports (sailing for example) but the format tends to be dropped when it's adapted to be a spectator sport. In my opinion it's a little bit of a shame for the 'hardcore' fan, but it does have wider appeal without the added confusion

I would approve of the rule returning with the following restraint - Only one race is dropped, and that is from the first 2/3 of the races in the season.

@@DjDolHaus86 Senna understood how to use the rule better than Prost did. With the domination McLaren had, Senna realized that the way to win was to have more wins than Prost, and enough second places to fill the remaining 11 counted scores. Settling for a third place was a waste. It would be no worse to crash out trying to get second than to settle for third.

Dropped scores are really common in other series, where competitors might miss rounds due to lack of funds, away rounds, mechanical failure, accidents etc. Was a weird result last week in a UK series where the championship leader lost out on dropped scores, as the final round was not eligible to be dropped. So other competitors benefitted from having their accidents earlier in the season. Dropped scores are good for online leagues, where life means you won't be able to make every single week.

Azerbaijan GP: hold my brake magic...

Mercedes at Baku: Am I a joke to u?

I see my comment has aged like warm milk

I think Red Bull would quite like that brought back, too....

Not saying very much then

Took your time then

Feeling original today sir?

E o drop results foi "Massa" também né, irmão? Kkkkk

@@tiagoi.8771 melhor sistema já usado hahahahahaha

If you combine 2007 and 2008, Hamilton scored 16 more points than Massa, 22 more points than Räikkönen, and 37 more points than Alonso. Do you *really* think he deserved *neither* of those championships?

@@elliotcrossan6290 yes

@@elliotcrossan6290 Of course he deserved at least one of those titles. I'm just joking about the fact that Massa would've won that championship, and one of the most heartbreaking moments in F1 to me would've never happened.

It was 2008

@@COD04MW so it was

This rule should have been re applied as soon as refuelling was stopped. Literally every race is a lottery with the safety car/vsc when it appears remotely near a pit window, makes it a complete joke, especially when the safety car comes out because a Hass breaks down 3m from an exit road

If you want to change strategic thinking ...in other words "no advantage on pitstops" you do not need to forbid them. It's even unfair for those who wanted to pit in such lap ....with or without sc conditions. It is enough to order a wait time before starting to work on the car the same as they do with a stop & go situation. Wait time the same as the advantage from stopping during that VSC. But even then....what to do when a (V)SC appears during a pitstop from someone? Also I should forbid to work on a car during redflag ...Also no tyre change in the lane. Of coarse you are allowed to change the tyres as a pitstop....allowing anyone who enetrs behind you in the pitlane to pass you until the change is done. Any other change to the car (changing a wing, or any other part) is only allowed AFTER ending the red flag. This would have made it impossible for Lewis to win Silverstone in 2021 because the repairs would have taken too long for any reasonable chance in coming back. (And with that also no controverse in Baku)

Super max max

Prost actually won the 1989 Championship by 16 points -- 21 without the dropped points rule -- meaning Senna wouldn't have won the title even if his Japanese Grand Prix win had counted. He needed to win in Australia too to take the title, and he crashed out in Adelaide in the rain. And Prost narrowly missed out on the title in 1983, 1984 and 1990 as well as 1988. Prost was the most consistent driver in an era where consistency wasn't rewarded like it is these days. In a slightly different world, Alain could've been an eight-time Champion... he is *ridiculously* underrated!

Heard a motivation for elimination qualifying was to make it more exciting by discouraging drivers from sitting around in the pits, but I think the teams were also worried about engine wear & tear if they sent out their cars to run on the track over the whole qualifying duration

Top8 scoring was the best scoring · Top6 was a bit too extreme, probably a direct result of how many mechanical problems there used to be · Top10 has an awful points distribution - Both the BTCC and CART had it better

You mean after George retires, right?

@@UncleKennysPlace idk ya but the way McLaren and Ferrari and going plus with the budget cap I'd say It may come down to Lando and Charles but you can't predict this stuff anyway

Lando, charles, George and Max

@@trophydevice7624 if max doesn't peak too young like seb

@@trophydevice7624 R.I.P. Albion not being there💀

Nahhh... All you ask for isnt going to be you know tha if youre a long time f1 fan. Althou i got absolutely the same opinion as you.

Yeah loved that made for an exciting end to the race.

Lol

F1 cars only designed to have enough fuel for 1 190 mile race,wait does that mean refuelling is bacc??

That’s the current rule? And it’s unusual for most cars to not go out twice in any of the sessions?

@@Mikeb1001 the current rules are that driver start on the tyres they use in Q2. It was changed because some cars who just got into the top 10 in Q2 wouldn't even bother going out in Q3 instead preferring to start 9th or 10th on Brand new tyres and the top guys only went out once so they didnt put extra laps into their starting tyres. Q3 was a joke

They failed to GIT GUD, maybe even proving Senna wasn't that skilled to begin with and just really relied on the driving aids - For example, his 1993 teammate Michael Andretti was a FANTASTIC driver in aidless cars (he did great in 1994 against Mansell, in 1995 against a young Villeneuve, in 1996 against Zanardi and even fought young Montoya face to face when he was quite old)

@@DanArnets1492 Senna won three Titles driving cars still with manual gearboxes, no steering assistance and no electronic aids whatsoever...

Such as giving each driver 10 minutes to set a banker and maybe another improved lap, issuing the 90 second timer on the slowest driver when the 10 minutes is up. If they aren't on track when it expires, they're out of Qualifying. If they are on track, then they are given one more lap to move up the field; but that's it. Where they finish after that is locked in and they cannot improve for the rest of the session. The 90 seconds is reset for the next slowest driver once it has run down once, so there are always two drivers warned and at risk of being eliminated at a time, only stopping when we're down to about 5 cars on remaining where they ALL have the 90 seconds to be on track.

Already been done. Doesn't actually change much. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iq5kY9J6rbOcipc.html

Refuelling would not do anything *at all* to reduce the "dirty air" problems caused by current aerodynamics. "But surely with the technology available these days they could bring it back safely." To bring refuelling back safely, you need a reliable solution to ensure: (a) the fuel rigs *cannot* start dispensing before the fuel hose is fully engaged. (a) the drivers *cannot* move off with a fuel hose attached (no, a rules-based solution is not adequate; it has to be a reliable technical solution). On the other, the teams won't sign off on it unless that technology is sufficiently robust to prevent it causing DNFs due to false sensor readings.

One advantage of banning in-race refuelling is that minimising pit stop durations is now more dependent on the skill of the tyre change pit crew & their tools, rather than the refuelling rig, which typically takes longer to refuel a car than the pit crew takes to change the tyres. You might notice that when there was refuelling, the wheel nut guns were slower, probably because back then it didn't really matter how fast you changed the tyres if after that you still had to wait for the car to finish refuelling before it could exit the pits (unless say the pit stop is called at the last minute due to weather changes, during which you'd likely only change the tyres (between dry & wet ones) & not refuel (as that probably wasn't planned beforehand for this pit stop))

@@lzh4950 how is that an advantage as opposed to a simple observation? Why would you expect them to refuel a car in two seconds? The whole point of having it come back is to vary the pitstop lengths and vary the strategies. I really dont care if they change the tires slower.

@@NomadUniverse As in it might be more exciting to viewers to watch as the pit crew might now have more pressure to act faster & a mistake from them would more likely cause a delay, creating more unpredictability in the race

@@lzh4950 would you not rather see it won on strategy and not solely if they miss a wheel change by 1 second? The pit crew can still make a mistake but that should never devide a race. Particularly when the driver hasnt put a foot wrong.

That's the reason they went in 2003 from 10-6-4-3-2-1 to 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1. The gap between win and second became too small so they went for a bigger gap and made the 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 points system.

Get used to it, there hasn’t really been consistent runs of rules since the 80s

Plus you didn't have to know what compounds are soft-medium-hard for a particular weekend

Apart from the stupid idea of putting the words the narrator was saying on the screen, sometimes. That was annoying and distracting.

Love ya

@@WTF1official Ditto

fast gang or milk gang

@@beaconblaster33 E