Love this. The aerial shot sells VERY well. I mean REAL. But, there's something off about the aircraft for me. I think it's the straight path(s) they are taking - without any sort of yawing - that is amplified with them traveling exactly parallel to the vertical of the physical screen space. Regarding flight characteristics though - aircraft tend to pivot out about the center point of the wings during flight (when viewed from top-down) and seldom is the tail in true parallel with the flight path - it sort of trails behind correcting for windage... the craft is almost always yawed out of the direction of travel. You said this is a work in progress. So, hopefully this doesn't hit too hard. They feel sorta... dead. After noticing how straight/in-line the tail was - I then notice that the FLAPS /AELORONS/RUDDERS/ELEVATORS aren't moving AT ALL as they fly. The pilot would (likely) constantly make adjustments to keep his trajectory while correcting for turbulence, the moving parts would obviously move, and the craft would be reacting directly and proportionally to those movements... all the craft seem far too stable in flight. The next thing that sticks out for me was that the engines aren't exhausting any smoke... IF visible to the camera it would seem to travel out of the nacelles/exhaust aft-ward at the speed the craft is flying. I have never flown over one of these and watched to see if I would be able to see it that near to the craft in real life or under these specific conditions. But for some reason, my brain expects to see it there... traveling out of the nacelles aft-ward and basically at the speed they are flying. I really feel that smoke flying out of the nacelles at super high speed would go a long way to sell that they are actually traveling... and fast. And, I'm no expert on these craft - but I would also assume that the engine/exhaust would create some trailing heat distortion. And yes, I agree that some research on formations and bombing techniques would also help sell the shot. Again, I hope this doesn't come off as unappreciative of the work you have put into it. I don't want to pretend that I could pull off half of what you have accomplished here! I wish you all the best and hope you can take this as constructive criticism - hoping the best for all your endeavors. Thank you for sharing all of it with us!

It's brilliant, could do with some more low-rumbling bass in the sound mix ...

@@LeekClock I think they hired someone who does all of that in post-prod and not here

@@secondarycontainment4727 Planes should vibrate the camera ever so slightly too.

The shot looks great, What I think throws things off a bit is that the formations feel to perfect and the speed of things feel too lock and step there should be more imperfections. Also more haze, the planes seem way to bright based upon the lighting in the scene they should be almost silhouettes with just blue moonlight. The planes seem to be moving extremely slow down below based upon their scale to the larger planes colder to camera.

That's the benefit of doing multiple passes and then layering them in post.

real magic and a professional compositor

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@@iododendron3416 Now that was brilliant :D

Andrew: I think you left out the tracking pass of Jack Nicholson!

Thanks Nigel, glad you liked it!

Same here

Thanks so much, Kyle!

It looks amazing. And thank you for the detailed explaination on how this is done. It's awsome!

Haha thank you for the support, really appreciated!

Well it's great to see the effect worked! And yes please share, always great to know people are interested in practical filmmaking!

😂 what you guys don’t realise is that hat is part of him, it’s attached to his head!

Adam that’s so amazing to hear, so happy we’ve inspired you!

Haha well thanks for keep coming back! Just by commenting you’ll help us get recommendation more so thank you!

So thats what looked off! I couldn’t quite put my finger on what looked wrong with the planes but you are totally right

That's one thing that REALLY irritated me about the scene in "Star Wars" wherein Darth Vader and his two wingmen are pursuing Luke through the Death Star trench; the entire landscape is rotating around them, yet the three ships are perfectly stationary relative to each other.

My Fathers' bomb load on that night - Feb 13th, 1945. Dresden. Bomb load : 1 x 4000 HC, 10 x Cp. No.14, 2 x 60 4lb. Inc. "Bombed at 01:30:30 from 20,000 feet on estimated centre of red TI's amongst fires. Bombing was excellent. One very large explosion at 01:37 hours. Smoke up to 11/12,000 feet." 9 hrs, 35 min flight. (from - Operations Record Book) "The squadron was stood up and 15 aircraft detailed to take part in an attack on Dresden. Take-off was just after 21:00 hours in conditions of good visibility. The route was mainly clear until at 2° E when 10/10 cloud was met with base 15,000 feet and this persisted until the target area. The route homeward was made under similar conditions but the cloud dispersed at 3°E and all aircraft landed safely at base with the exception of "K" flown by F/O Parker, who landed at Foulsham owing to shortage of petrol. PFF marking was punctual and concentrated, and the master bomber had the attack well under control. Ground defences were nil and no fighters were encountered. Crews reported that as the attack developed large fires were burning in the city and smoke was rising to 10,000 feet, and report that glow of fires could be seen for 45 minutes after leaving." Definitely NO formation flying!

Wow that's an amazing little anecdote! Really happy you liked how our shot turned out!

A stroke of genius from JP, he knew that smoke pellet would come in handy sooner rather than later!

Thanks Alice, really appreciate the support!

Thank you! Always great to know the effort put in was worth it!

Thank you so much, great to hear you liked how it turned out!

@@InCameraTV Very much so - I'm working on a Warhammer 40k stop motion short & this has helped with visualisation for my aircraft scene.

I wouldn't say they are obsolete. There is and probably always be a market for the big studios. That all of this is possible on a small scale, doesn't mean it is the only or even the best way to do it. It's like saying the Arri Alexa is obsolete, because we have the Black Magic Cinema Cameras now.

Thank you so much, really appreciated!

Oh amazing!

Wow that’s so cool to hear! Really hope you like how it turned out!

@@InCameraTV Yeah this was a great watch honestly. Amazing job guys! 👍

Thank you! that's the magic of practical effects! Glad you liked the video!

Thanks so much Keith, it is still mind blowing to think that it's just paper!

Thank you! We're super happy with how it's going considering we only launched last year, but all the support and comments are so appreciated!

Glad to have you on board! Thank you so much!

Thank you so much! No better feeling than seeing the process develop from start to finish!

Glad you liked it Jordan!

Thanks Dominic, glad you liked how the shot turned out!

Thank you so much 😀

Wow thanks so much Taylor!

Thank you! 🙌

You’re welcome guys!

Thanks Nick, glad you liked it!

Thank you!

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Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks David!

Thank you so much!

Thank you, glad you liked it!

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Thank you, Glad you like it!

Thank you! Hope you liked the video!

Wow, thanks for the kind words!

Thanks so much, glad you like how the shot turned out!

Thanks Daniel, glad you enjoyed it! And always great to hear tips from our subscirbers; there's plenty of ways to achieve certain aspects of all our shoots!

Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it!

Glad you liked it!

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thanks so much, Jack! Glad you liked the final result, and just you commenting on the video will help more people find it so thanks again!

Thanks you, Tyler! Hope you liked how the final shot turned out!

Thanks Mike! It's definitely possible! We'll still be tweaking this for a while before the final shot for the film is done for sure

Appreciate the cheesy pun! And nice to hear enjoyed the vid, so much goes in to producing these effects that we never want to cut any steps of the process out!

Thank you for that! Appreciate all the hard work. ✨

Thank you!

Really appreciate the kind words and thank you so much for sharing, it'll help the channel out loads!

Thanks Luigi, glad you liked it!

Haha, if the demand is there for them then maybe we'll start selling them sometime down the line 😅👀

Thank you so much Eric, really appreciate the support!

Completely agreed, love love working with miniatures. Glad you liked the video!

Glad to have you onboard!

That means the world max, thank you so much!

Thank you! Hope you liked the video!

@@InCameraTV loved it😘

Thank you Andreas!

Cheers Noah 🔥

Thank you so much; glad you liked the episodes!