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Understanding the Bottom Feeder Bowl Gouge with Sam Angelo

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WYOMINGWOODTURNER

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Sam looks at the "Bottom Feeder" bowl gouge in more detail. He shows sharpening and the proper grind for this tool. With some nice close up shots he shows that the bottom feeder is the right tool for maintaining bevel contact when turning a deeper bowl.
Links to more videos below showing bowl gouge grinds and shapring in more detail.
Sharpening a Bowl Gouge with a traditional Grind:
• Sharpening a Bowl Goug...
Video Contents....for Understanding the Bottom feeder
00:00 Introduction to the Bottom Feeder
00:48 Sharpening the Bottom Feeder
03:07 Comparing the bottom feeder with the swept-back grind
05:47 Cutting on the Bottom of a large platter
10:44 How the 60º bevel angle works
14:04 Cutting the bottom of a deeper bowl
18:53 Using the Bottom feeder on the outside of a bowl
Also-look at....Identifying Bowl Gouge Grinds with Sam Angelo
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@waynenelson8907
@waynenelson8907 Жыл бұрын
I have a lot to learn and enjoy your videos and I really liked your explanation the the bottom bowl gouge along with your demo using your pattern you cut out. I could see the position of the gouge working before you explained it. Thanks again.
@cortlandhunt4721
@cortlandhunt4721 3 жыл бұрын
Very good instructions Sam! 👍🇺🇸
@anthonykorsak2906
@anthonykorsak2906 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. Always learning
@prsearls
@prsearls 2 жыл бұрын
I have one and it sometimes frustrates me. Your video helps me better understand the tool's positioning and should give me better results. I need to sweep back the right wing more. I hadn't thought of using it on the outside surface but I see its advantages now. Thanks.
@ondawall
@ondawall 10 ай бұрын
Excellent instructional, Sam. Lots of great information!
@dapperdave4952
@dapperdave4952 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Bottom Feeder and figured I should get some insight on just how use this new (to me) tool. Outstanding training and I thank you for your efforts in making this video Sir. Happy turning and may the chips fly in ribbons into tomorrow
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sam
@jontoolman
@jontoolman 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very good explaining how yhe tool works and flute angles. I just got a Carter's bottom feeder and will now know how to use it better wiyh practice. Thank you for sharing.
@jackthompson8019
@jackthompson8019 3 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial Sam.
@garyhead577
@garyhead577 Жыл бұрын
Great video on the bottom feeder. I even ground a half inch bowl feeder for smaller bowls. Thanks...
@royboggs3849
@royboggs3849 3 жыл бұрын
Sam, one of the reasons we love this vid is that you’re going places (with sharpening....) that other pros do not! VERY helpful, Sam!! Bravo!! 👌👌👍👍👏👏👏
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 3 жыл бұрын
Kind words, thanks Sam
@billysanders7043
@billysanders7043 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the teaching video's I did not know I needed a Gouge with that grind. I will be taking classes as soon as one opens up, but until I will try some things on my own, you have been a great help.
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam
@zano986
@zano986 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks Sam.
@stuartscott9646
@stuartscott9646 3 жыл бұрын
Good solid info Sam!
@DougMilleratWoodSpunRound
@DougMilleratWoodSpunRound 3 жыл бұрын
Excelllent explanation. Thanks
@robertbell5609
@robertbell5609 2 жыл бұрын
Another very educational/well done video Sam. Thanks!
@peterrauch6604
@peterrauch6604 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Sam! Great demonstration and explanation! I appreciate the time and effort to make the props!
@alanmullock381
@alanmullock381 3 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration and explanation Sam!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😎
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 3 жыл бұрын
wow 9 thumbs up-thanks Sam
@CultureWatcher5000
@CultureWatcher5000 2 жыл бұрын
You're an excellent teacher.
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Sam
@timt9240
@timt9240 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of how to present the bottom feeder to the wood. Your explanation really cleared up questions I had about this gouge. Thanks for all your informative videos.
@annaredd2422
@annaredd2422 3 жыл бұрын
great information, I love the visualizations
@scottstubberud1137
@scottstubberud1137 Жыл бұрын
Best explanation of the bottom feeder I have seen sir! Thanks for sharing your wisdom with the wood turning community!
@markneurohr9663
@markneurohr9663 3 жыл бұрын
Good job Sam! Thank you for sharing. Something in my shop is going to get a 60 degree bevel. 😎
@RickTurnsWoodturning
@RickTurnsWoodturning 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video, Sam.
@MarklTucson
@MarklTucson 3 жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation of the use of this tool. Also some good info on use of the 40 degree bevel gouge as well. Really liked your models and the fact you've indexed this video.
@davidmorgan7522
@davidmorgan7522 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that Sam! I'm gonna put the swept back to the right side of my 2 gouges to hopefully eliminate the catches I've gotten. Great information! Take care, Dave
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 3 жыл бұрын
I got your "prize" off today in the mail....thanks as always Sam
@davidmorgan7522
@davidmorgan7522 3 жыл бұрын
@@WYOMINGWOODTURNER Thanks Sam! I'm looking forward to receiving that. Dave
@Ruser7367
@Ruser7367 3 жыл бұрын
I have a bottom feeder and use it but your explanations will definitely help my technique.
@siph2o
@siph2o Жыл бұрын
I got my bottom feeder today, and I needed this video to understand how it works! Thanks Sam!
@cobberpete1
@cobberpete1 3 жыл бұрын
That was an 'Excellent' tutorial on the bottom feeder. Learnt quite a lot. I will have to consider getting one.
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent demo Sam. Prefect explanation of the need for the 60 degree grind for doing the inside bottom of deep bowls. Thank you for sharing. Have a great Independence day and stay safe.
@jackmiyamoto5270
@jackmiyamoto5270 3 жыл бұрын
Sam, thanks for this bottom feeder video. It's a cut I struggle with trying to stay on the bevel. Great explanation. jack
@recycle343
@recycle343 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Love you ability to teach, and explain the fine detai.
@geraldmoore3686
@geraldmoore3686 3 жыл бұрын
Sam, this is perfect timing, I just bought a new 5/8 bowl gouge for specifically doing the bottom of bowls. I have had trouble getting the grind right, not now. I'll be out to the shop tomorrow to fix the grind on my new gouge. You have helped me so much with your videos, I truly appreciate it. You make it so simple.
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Sam
@4ourWoodworks
@4ourWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great tutorial.
@perrineswoodworks1063
@perrineswoodworks1063 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You Sam! I bought a "bottom feeder" about 18 months ago and had one opportunity to meet with a mentor in our turning club. I still had some questions about using this gouge and this video helped and affirmed my thoughts.
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 3 жыл бұрын
Good, thanks Sam
@pjseiber2774
@pjseiber2774 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Got to have one.
@misfit4777
@misfit4777 3 жыл бұрын
Timely video as I've struggled a bit getting a good feel for this tool.
@fordv8man
@fordv8man 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. You have found the balance in your videos with the mix of information and visual explanation.
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that means a lot.....Sam
@johnmullins203
@johnmullins203 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I got one of those gouges a year or so ago and after getting used to it, it is a very useful tool
@torchmd
@torchmd 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam, that was really helpful. I loved the learning aids. Lol. Felt like I was back in Shop class! Awesome.
@carolriley8472
@carolriley8472 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like I need another tool!
@johnoerter2883
@johnoerter2883 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m puzzling through grinding a bottom feeder. Also, great graphics!
@PHIL_S
@PHIL_S 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips
@tomcoker9882
@tomcoker9882 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam. I’ll have to get out one of my old gouges and put that 60 degree grind on it. I’ve been using my Easy Wood Tools oh various other scrapers. Thanks for the tips. Keep them and the videos coming. Cheers, Tom BTW Happy 4th.
@wrecks2007
@wrecks2007 3 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks for sharing.
@johnowens5751
@johnowens5751 3 жыл бұрын
Great have to grind one and try it like to borrow some of your ability 😀
@jayscott306
@jayscott306 3 жыл бұрын
That was really helpful, Sam. I have certainly heard people explain the specific details about a bottom feeder but nobody has explained the usage of it with such an easy to comprehend description. I've heard that they can be a bit grabby, but I think pretty soon I need to take one of my cheap bowl gouges, re-grinded and see what it feels like. Probably take my bottom of the bowl results to the next level that I've been trying to get to for a while now. Thanks for helping me get there.
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 3 жыл бұрын
I really think it is a must have tool for your shop. Thanks Sam
@bernardfutter5327
@bernardfutter5327 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam, you probably have just explained the "lop sided" profile of a couple of old carbon steel tools I bought at a country wood fayre. I soon found they sometimes worked well, then at others had severe catches. It was in my early turning days; I shall get them out again, a small Revo spindle tool and a Marples bowl gouge. Possibly they could become main stream again, when the extra sharpening is justified. Bernard.
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 3 жыл бұрын
The grind I showed is sort of old school. I saw it first from Trent Bosch Sam
@johnwallace4408
@johnwallace4408 3 жыл бұрын
The perfect explanation of sharpening and use of the Bottom Feeder bowl gouge. Questions, would it actually be best to hand hone if one does not flatten the wire edge of the bottom feeder gouge? Stay safe, Sam!
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 3 жыл бұрын
I don't worry too much about the burr on an edge-unless it is very heavy then I would hone it away. The wire edge will ware away and leave a serrated edge which makes cutting more efficient. Sam
@mikemoore4443
@mikemoore4443 3 жыл бұрын
How would you compare a bottom feeder gouge to a swept back bowl gouge with a 55-60 angle for finishing bowl bottoms?
@jimjohnson1901
@jimjohnson1901 3 жыл бұрын
Sam, what ar there good ideas for getting wood? When you have to buy it, it gets expensive. Also, a good video! Jim.
@nelsonpalmer4831
@nelsonpalmer4831 2 ай бұрын
New turner, what would be the effect of a negative scraper - how would it compare to the 60° bottom feeder ? I hope to start roughing a deep bowl. Also is there a formula regarding width to depth making bowls
@brandysigmon9066
@brandysigmon9066 3 жыл бұрын
Good video but I thought it was for hand carving. Some of the same techniques and principals apply to both I reckon
@rickdignem6080
@rickdignem6080 Жыл бұрын
Sam, great videos. Qustion4 you. Most of my bowls are segmented bowls and the walls are straight to the bottom.i have a big problem with catches as I reach the bottom of the bowl. Which is at 90°. I don't want to cut across the bottom as they are designed bases, stars , pie shaped etc. What do you recommend to stop the catches??
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER Жыл бұрын
Rick, first toward the bottom of your bowls you may be too far off the tool rest. But you might try a negative rake scraper-they can be more forgiving. I always scrap the bottom of my bowls to clean things up.... Sam
@Ken_Dalton
@Ken_Dalton 3 жыл бұрын
So would u recommend having 2 bowl gouges, one of 45° and the other one as a 60° bottom feeder? 🤔.. Shout out from ireland, very helpful for a novice Turner 👏👏👏🍀 u got my subscription today
@ericmoorehead1100
@ericmoorehead1100 3 жыл бұрын
Is a bowl scraper an alternative?
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 3 жыл бұрын
Good question-Yes I usually finish up with a scraper to level out the surface, providing I don't start with any torn grain. Nothing wrong with scraping. It is a good tool to clean up tool marks. Sam
@BillB11291
@BillB11291 2 жыл бұрын
I am truly surprised that you would use tools from a company that got its start by the way it did.
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER 2 жыл бұрын
Bill, I am just getting to responding to comments. I won't pretend that I don't know which company you are referring to or what the issue is. I am well aware. I have had phone conversations with turners from the west coast on this issue. I have mostly dealt with the "kids" who really run the company in my opinion. I have had nothing but a good relationship with them I have had literally nothing to do with the father. You are assuming I know the absolute truth of this matter: I do not. My last comment would be-----lets all "vet" every tool maker and every woodturner's past and poor behavior so we can make a fair evaluation of the issue. I would imagine there are others out there who have questionable ethics. Sam
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