Humans even destroy their own kind to achieve wictory.

Nope, he was 1000% right.

I'd love to have a mutant as a kid, as long as it's not a useless power

It's called being gay in the real world ​@@disneyfan_1237

​@@disneyfan_1237 with an attitude like that, your kid's gonna be like that one mutant who was born with transparent skin 😂

Ding 🛎️ ding

Brovo! Gran conclusion

Better than the one we got for the last 20 years

@@robertofabrizioiparraguirr6038just those awful movies. He was great in the comics and Evolution.

YeLlOw SPanDeX?

😊 absolutely. He knew they were ready to try another way

Or he died to keep from turning humans into living robots, he been controlled and manipulated his hole life, he probably made this first free will choice of his life.

Nothing can change the path he was on

​@@NicoNicoNiincompoop how about thanos MCU? And other criminal and villains are broken? Why people didn't want they're die?

He can burn in hell for all I care

Yeah……..all too familiar. But, that is what power demands.

Was waiting for this comment. As a fellow Naruto fan, I agree.

Yeah but unlike naruto, this was pragmatic. There was no conceivable way they could have saved Bastion from himself. Unlike Mganeto, who had multiple arcs that led up to his definitive change of heart at the beginning of the series.

No jutso your SS bub.

Except the x-gene isn't evolution. That's like saying inhumans are the next step. Also, she's saying this in regards to Bastion, who technically isn't a mutant.

​​​@@LordVanOskuro it is, Bastion even says in the future they begin outnumbering humans 10 to 1. Mutants are also canonically genetically called homo-superiors to which humans are homo-sapiens and before on the evolutionary theory, homo-neanderthals

@@Huff-Productions About that, why should that be a good thing? Considering how Marvel portrays humans, why is having a bunch of them with powers a good thing? Not to mention children of the children of the atom, like Graydon and Anya, are they going to end up being 2nd or 3rd class citizens? What about non-meta mutants? Making any kind of metahumans the norm is not a good thing and shouldn't be treated as such. It's the reason why old stories portrayed supervillains out numbering superheroes. Even MHA addresses this, albeit also getting around most of it by having most meta-abilities be very low, sighting it as the reason One for All can't be given to everyone. Its why I hate Marvel only saying there are legitimate issues with mutants, but not actually showing them. Bastion does bring up good points with Val, but its hollow because we don't see it in practice. Closest was Colossus in the original series, but they don't bring up that issue, and focus on him being confused for Juggernaut somehow.

@@Huff-Productions Not really. They are the creation of certain big robot lads from space.

@@LordVanOskuro I wasn't stating my opinion on Mutants, ĵust that in universe they are next up on the evolutionary theory

Yep, reminds me of every kid that gets disowned for coming out or tries to get 'cured' from being themselves...

@@jordanloux3883 Oh please, spare me that bs, dont try to compare real life mentally ill losers with the mutants. At least the mutants are actually especial by having super powers instead of just mental illness.

@@crowx5818 You've never actually met a queer person, have you?

Bastion was forced to believe that he was normal when he knew deep down that he wasn't. He pushed everything down until he had nothing else to do but snap and let the sentinel programming take over.

@@jordanloux3883 #Agreed.

And then a mutant/sentinel hybrid will be born. The next step for evolution. Or the extinction of humankind.

If only his mom had accepted that he was more than human instead of just pushing everything down until he basically snapped

I think he's still alive. If he melded with Cable's arm and the arm had the time travel cube thing in it. that means Bastion is free to travel to any point in time he wishes. It's possible he sent the X-Men across time. Whether or not it was intentional, I have no idea.

​@@TheIronWarlockXIIIbastion is not mutant he human.

Yeah same, this may be me reading into things but watching the show I never saw bastion as purely evil because he was never purely bastion. Nimrod/mastermold altered him from conception to think/BE this so it’s almost like he never had the opportunity to exist as bastion (a literal “clockwork orange”). He was forced to exist with the programming of the sentinels in his brain forcing him into this direction and mentality. Part of me wished he didn’t die because I would have loved for them to explore this concept more/see how a redemption for this scenario could have been done, but regardless this is still a solid scene and solid end

Make him atone. He would have ended in jail

Magneto, Wolverine, Gambit, and Rogue also bad guys, some killed people. But if keeping the cycle of violence is not the answer, at the end Bastion died of his own actions But yeah fck that guy.

Same way Goku gave Vegeta a chance lol

And Naruto gave pain and Obito a chance

Also because the way things were going, some of them were going to die and that he was genuinely exhausted from this conflict that was not reaching any point.

Wait what? Is that confirmed?

Yep it is correct

Idk.... onslaught?

Because it is not supposed to be part of human biology. The Gardener created it. And considering how Marvel likes to portray humans, metahumans are not a good thing to begin with.

Technically, the xmen are the result of the celestial's experiments on base level humans (recently, I think in the judgment day event it was revealed that mutants were revealed to descendants of deviants and baseline humans).

@@hetaliafan117 Funny how when Marvel tried to make inhumans like mutants, x-men fans disliked it, yet loved mutants becoming like inhumans.

@@hetaliafan117 Close. Mutants are in some ways both humanity's evolution and the emergence of an entirely separate evolutionary line, an accident of sorts rather than the result of hybridization. The celestials just didn't become aware of it until entities like Franklin Richards (a mutant possessing the X-gene, despite all the confusion, while his parents would be classified as mutates due to receive their powers from an external source) began appearing. Even the first Apocalypse really didn't have any contact with them. He simply found the remains of an old celestial ship, merged with its technology, and rebuilt it. Judgment Day offered hybridization up as a possibility, but it was a character postulating what could be rather than being displayed as fact. A different panel shown quite some time ago displayed a celestial just full on admitting what mutants are and where they came from. Accompanying panels went into a bit of detail regarding what, precisely, happened.

@@hetaliafan117 But what about the series itself?

You misheard what was said: Cyclops: "Your mother lied, the professor came to you Bastion" Bastion: If she did, it was to protect me.

When the Second Coming of Hope happens, I imagine. tho that'd probably be 4-5 seasons out

If Bastion does return, I'll be surprised since it looks like he was atomized...

He fell in a black hole, which in sci-fi is basically a portal with little side effects. They’ll have him in the shelf until they feel like using him again I assume

@@umapessoa240 i Just Hope he becomes a good Guy once.

​@@Guilherme-ms3ubI don't believe every villain needs a redemption arc, but I'm curious why you think Bastion could be good?

It is very possible that he survived. If the future hasn't changed then he is alive.

No, because this isn't a problem spanning the multiverse, just one timeline. Time travel is so common in Marvel that nobody is very shocked by it.

@@jordanloux3883 When still a by product of messing up time.

@@brockbell9429 Cable regularly goes back in time to prevent the bad future he's from. Plus there's all the times that Miguel has blatantly ignored his own rules about interfering in the past to give Peter Parker a hand.

Spitefulness when dealing with emotional problems... The true signal of weakness

He got what he deserved

He was PROGRAMMED from birth, one thing is psicological but his fate was that... which is not impossible to change but at the same time a titanic feat for one-self.

He probably did but not intentionally.

There's just one pickle, dear. Humanity would rather die than have kids like us.

Because he knew they would use the Magneto protocol and shoot down Astroid M which will result in humanity dooming themselves because Astroid M falling to the earth would wipe them out aswell.

“There’s just one pickle, dear.”

​@@anthonyroberts7486 Seriously they just made stupid plans to see the good guys suffer

@@adnanaftab5542 pretty much, but I assume they thought it would completely destroy Asteroid M and not just make it fall to earth.

Ok a 1000... now may I ask how many people magneto has killed?

Magneto kills: 10000+

a discussion for the x-men in the year 2077 when ai start developing conscience

J.A.R.V.I.S. is what I'd call an actual AI. Vision is also an AI and yet he and Scarlet Witch - a mutant and Magneto's daughter - are often shown to have a sort of romantic relationship. The Sentinels are just mere machines and tools. They don't have the capacity to grow beyond their main directive to annihilate mutants. Ultron is an AI, Vision is an AI, Ultron developed an Oedipus Complex towards Hank Pym while Vision determines that The Avengers were good people and turned against his creator - he even cried when the Avengers decided to accept him despite his origins. The Sentinels have no purpose beyond their predetermined one, and they don't seek purpose beyond their original programming. They're no different than a gun whose entire purpose to exist is to fire a bullet, just as Bastion would rather die than be saved by a mutant. The only regretable thing here is that Bastion isn't actually an AI, he's a person with the potential to grow past Nimrod's programming.

@@youraverageguy4930Pretty much this. Like if it was characters like Vision, Jarvis, Machine Man, Dethlocke, Jocasta, Victor Manchia, Drax (he was originally like an android), Viv, Doombot and Rom the Space Knight that would be morally unethical on the X-Men part to do so. Otherwise the Sentinels don’t count due to lack of an actual sentience on their part save for a few rare exceptions.

@@youraverageguy4930 What about Danger and Warlock?

@@LordVanOskuro you do know that a huge element in Danger and Warlock's are their journey to understand themselves, right? Danger constantly shifts between being an enemy and an ally to the X-Men as her sense of morality developed, and Warlock didn't care about destroying his progenitor, unlike other young members of his species. He even joined the New Mutants as he befriended them. I think the problem with your line of thinking is that you think the X-Men despise AIs because some of their enemies utilize them. That sounds almost as ridiculous as thinking that the mutants hate people who wears pants "due to their history with bad people who wore pants".

"Run, before someone starts dreaming of camps." - Erik Magnus Lensherr

@@jordanloux3883 Don't let me down - Magneto. We al know that he let us down.

You don't want to forgive the truly sinful, don't. But if you can't don't ever claim you place in value in forgiveness if it only applies to superficial things. Cyclops is married to a destroyer of worlds. Magneto has as much blood on his hands as Bastion, Logan tried his darndest to add to his kill count and while Rogue might only have killed one person onscreen it was a far more spiteful kill than anyone else there. Should all of them be killed eye for eye and tooth for tooth?

@@blacksage2375 I see your point. But Bastion and Kelly stubbornly hold on to their deeply disturbed ideals about fear, hypocrisy and prejudice and will not ever stop until their goals are achieved, without regard who gets hurt, guilty or innocent. If they cannot be convinced, they need to be contained so they can never be a threat to anyone or anything

​@@blacksage2375 This is like asking if you would forgive a mass murderer who has a psychological disease that can't be cured, that is like saying every person deserves forgiveness... as sad as this may sound, that is a mistake, sometimes.. you have to make a hard choice because no other option will stop the casualties.