Broken people agree with villainous acts. 💯

But he was cool with Rogue offing Trask.

@@LeVidocq His murderous tendencies don't take away from his loyalty

@@DarrenLeslieJr Xavier wouldn't have approved of the killing is the point 😂

The problem I feel is that the speech is all just words. We've viscerally seen Genosha. I think where the show and X-men comics as a whole fail is that they don't do enough to prove that humans are actually receptive to Xavier's dream. The dream requires both sides to be willing to reach out and we have decades of examples of mutants being willing, the X-men as a team are a massive example of that. But we have far fewer examples of humanity being willing. So often it comes off as the X-men being naive. When I consider what Magneto being right would mean, it's in his fundamental belief that "either we exterminate humans *OR THEY WILL EXTERMINATE US.*" And to be frank, he has lots of evidence that they will, and far less evidence that they won't. I think the counterpoint to Magneto's belief isn't the argument that "genocide is bad", it's the argument that "genocide isn't inevitable."

The Wolverine worship in your post is cringe. 💀

The best.

Same.

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I think you’re onto something

They have treasure trove of human characters to choose from. Sadly, most of them are tied to storylines that were altered to exclude them or characters that haven’t been introduced yet (Gabrielle Haller, Charlotte Jones, Lee Forrester, Fred Duncan, Colleen Wing, etc). Then there’s Dr. Peter Corbeau.

Yeah I respect DJ but I think he’s conflating the #Thanos or Magneto was right sloganism with what the show or movie is actually presenting. The UN lady last episode straight out said what the situation was. Magneto simply knew we would give into our innate fear and allow a genocide or murder not out of anger but just apathy. We see mutants killed and just move on with our day. Bastion isn’t saving humans from mutants either. This isn’t even about co-existence, it simply who will live to see the future. Magneto is just ready to abandon Earth. Bastion wants to enslave mutants to Sentinels. Not humans.

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How can mutants trust humans? Like they sent a giant genocidal robot to kill them on genosha then sent killer human robots after them?

Magento was right charles was a fool human don’t like shit they can’t control or under stand look at planet of the apps look at our own history magento was right

​@@4everJokoIf the earth burns as it will if the magnetic field will die, then millions of mutants will die. Also humans are not a monolith, not every human wants to kill mutants with giant robots

@@samkaranja5709 A lot of them do and undermine any peace. Just like in real life. Read the comics.

Magneto is my favorite villain but I thought I was wsied for thinking that Magneto is actually not right. We always should stive for hope. Not only for ourselves but future generations as well

I’ve been debating with people since this show came out that Magneto however sympathetic is still a bad guy.

Yeah, it's been really frustrating how little pushback Magneto has gotten on the show, and I definitely think there are other mutants Charles could've left the school to that aren't supremacists.

Well he was dying at the end of the previous series. I'm sure he had a lot on his mind that he couldn't articulate.

I agree that it was dumb for Xavier, to turn over everything to Magneto. Any story worth investing in has to have some type of dumb or wrong decision being made to provide conflict, if perfect decisions are made and the same results happen, there isn’t as many layers to the story telling. Those bad decisions have repercussions as we are seeing with the defection of Rogue, and I assume eventually Cyclops,to Magneto’s cause. I don’t think we should get to hung up on the fact that these fictional animated characters have not yet vocally explicitly condemned genocide. The show is for adults so the condemnation of genocide should come across clearly in the subtext. Showing a genocide of mutants with school aged characters and many other dead was extremely visceral to me, it didn’t make me think that the appropriate response was to enact a genocide in humans. The mutants in the show didn’t immediately jump to that conclusion- ONE mutant did, who has had a history of said villainy and terroristic behavior. I’d argued What the show does well is what it conveys WITHOUT explicitly saying. I don’t think any rational adult has to be told genocide is bad, but understanding WHY Magneto feels the ways he does is completely understandable. If you have been a member of an oppressed group you may want to cheer Magneto and root for him to exact his genocide, even if you know it is wrong, the catharsis of living vicariously through a cartoon character who you can relate to the oppression they have suffered from “human kind”, to exact their revenge and make the people feel the pain that he has endured from a viewer, is also understandable. When a common group of innocent people are slaughtered for just being, it’s really hard to not understand the vengeance they may seek to the other group of people who perpetrated the act even the innocent people on the other side. It’s all about perspective and lived experience and what’s wonderful about this show is that what some need spelled out others see plain and clear.

Wrong. This is taken straight from the classic comics. The reasons are solid for Xavier trying to give Magneto a chance to do good. No one anticipated a Sentinel/human hybrid from the future teaming up with an immortal mad scientist to massacre mutants and drive Magneto insane. I’m not saying Magneto is right, but I swear y’all be reaching. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣💀

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It's designed to provide the X-franchise an endless supply of conflict, but you're right, it undercuts the message of "coexistence is good", and it strains the metaphor of "mutant=marginalized community". It'd be nice to have them show at least one alternate future where things work out! haha - DJ

@@OnlyStupidAnswers I get that it's a conflict generator, but I'm sure you could still get that conflict while dialling back on just how universal the hate and fear seems to be amongst humans, and how easy it is to turn humanity against mutants. Just within the context of this show, I think it really could have done with showing more humans trying to support Genosha. Maybe do a thing where they show governments weren't providing enough aid but there were non-profits and just regular people coming to provide support. That kind of show of solidarity wouldn't have taken much time, but it would have demonstrated that yes, there can be co-existence. Something else I wish X-media would lean away from as well is dividing humans and mutants on a biological level. Bastion's claim in episode 8 that mutants will "replace" humans as the dominant species should be met with a response that mutants ARE humans, in every way that matters. They can do weird things, they look different sometimes, but they're born from humans, they feel and think the way humans do, with the odd exception. It's like saying if humans were suddenly just becoming taller on average than the previous generation that "tall humans are replacing short ones." Bastion wants to turn humans into some techno-organic hybrid like himself, how is that actually different from mutants? I hope they're setting up for that argument in the show, they seem to be with that bit about how Professor X actually went to Bastion as a child to bring him to the school.

Sympathetic face to humanity lol what?

Wrong.

Magneto's ideology is inherently supremacist and isolationist and that's a recipe for authoritarianism and violence. That aligns him more with figures like Bastion. To say "history has proven him right" is not only incorrect, but implies that coexistence isn't a worthwhile endeavor in our own world. Should we all only congregate with people like us and violently oppose everyone else? I don't agree with that ideology, and would, in fact, say that is wrong. - DJ

@@OnlyStupidAnswers wanting a mutant state isn’t inherently supremacist, isolationism is a valid response when the whole world time again tries to commit genocide against you. History has proven magneto right, just look at current racial issues in the US today. Xavier‘s idea of assimilating has been tried, and while, it’s an arguable, Are better than 200 years ago, there’s still clear examples of societal and systemic racism happening in the US every day, playing nice with and giving concessions to your oppressors does not lead to liberation. And that’s why magneto is right, because unlike Charles he realizes there’s no common ground to be made with the people who want nothing more than your entire culture and people erased from the face of the Earth. Again in this episode, Charles was willing to sacrifice mutants by getting rid of magneto, knowing it would lead the sentinels to turn back on Charles’ whole deal is taking young impressionable people, and turning them into child soldiers (the O5 team). He’s not the good guy here.

@@OnlyStupidAnswers Agreed. Magneto has the right to feel hatred and even bigotry (a sin nonetheless), but regardless of the massacre of mutants his actions are reprehensible. Making him once again a villain battling heroes: the X-Men.