1000% accurate

And it shows that Xavier simply didn't know, and will continue to not understand, where his friend is coming from. Xavier believes that normal men are normally good, and, given the holocaust, Erik decidedly does not.

@@reganator5000 Yeah but Magneto (in this instance) is alright with justfying a genocide on all of humanity due to what some people did to him and his family. As much as one can understand his reasoning it's not a justification for his actions.

@@CrniWuk But it's not a genocide. Those are Naval vessels, operated by trained members of a state's official military. Blowing them up is a show of force, but not 'the intentional destruction of a people, in whole or in part'. Hell, it's not even against the rules of war. Them finding themselves massively outgunned is perfectly fine under the Geneva Conventions, which don't require your armies to be equal, just that they fight fair with whatever they have, be that nuclear weapons or spears.

@@reganator5000 I am not just talking about this situation. You could argue that it is self defence here, sort of - albeit I still don't agree with the decision. But in later years Magneto had no issue with killing innocent people.

Yeah, saying the phrase "Just following orders" to a Holocaust survivor, was not one of Charles' brighter moments.

Turned my hamburger into a yummy cheeseburger!

And still so understandable.

And yet, here we are in 2023, where majority of population are following orders at the mercy of men/women just to earn a living. I’m guessing it ain’t all that bad to be a Level 5 mutant like Magneto.

Good line but not the best.

Well he punched him and that counts as hurting, but knowing that he might've just fatally hurt him, that's what made him leave all the bombing stuff

Is it me or does Magneto have a similar costume to BananaMan 🍌

The brilliance of this film is that you see a villain's origins and completely understand him as a multi-dimensional antagonist, even without knowledge of the comics. It's simply a great story, well told. The franchise missed a trick by not developing this further with a second film; it certainly had layers to develop. That's not to say the second instalment wasn't a good film. I just felt it was a great leap in both Xavier's and Erik's story arch, and the whole time travelling thing would've had even more bang had both further cemented their differences. Just an opinion btw. I still think it lives up to the great cartoon series until the final film.

No genious, it was terrifying idea of losing him because of his fight with the idiot trying to kill him. What do they teach you in school? Hiw to skip the obvious?

​@@TheFoshaMan that's different friends and family fight all the time especially brothers. Seeing you're brother or someone you consider a brother get shot and especially knowing it's cuz of you. Fuck the little punches. That's my bro.

I’m glad you noticed that there just well done amazing well put together characters there literally brothers but indifferent

even someone with myopia can see the missouri's turrets turning towards them

spiderman liked that

​@@s0nnyburnett they're not even moving yet when he noticed them. He can feel the clanking and the footsteps of the people there.

​@@Username-le4eqpro x can read minds

Who are you talking to? It's just a clip

@@norouziman8748 it doesn’t matter if it’s a clip! The situation itself is deep and complex of complex characters and their motivations. The fact that Erik was terrorized by nazi who were “following orders” was a very poor choice of words.

"Very poor choice of words..HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA" Joker

Survivors who then choose to wreck havoc just because someone else caused them all that!

Absolutely right

They really are total bangers or duds. Like X-men 1 and 2 were genre defining like Spider-Man 1 and 2 in a pre iron man cinema world. First class, days of future past and Logan are just awesome movies in every way. Some amazing plots and philosophical debates that make people question a lot

Totally agree with that selection. l loved x1 and X2, X3 less so. No time for phoenix or abysmal apocalypse or the other wolverine films although I didn't mind the one with a giant robot samurai villain. Days of future past and first class were excellent. Michael fasbender as magneto is needed in MCU. You fear what he could be capable of.

@@64offsuiteragree. Unless you're gonna say that Logan is also somehow lame and borin

Yeah like there was maybe a chance he would have listened to Charles but after hearing that, nope

And not even angry, just disappointed that he has to break down his rhetoric for the man he trusted to come around to his own way of thinking.

@@Spongebrain97 You're misunderstanding his expression. It wasn't one of consideration, it was remembrance and rage. Charles told a HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR that they're "just following orders". Why tf would magneto listen to him?

Could've said he'd be no different than the men he's up against

Up until that point, he was considering Charles' argument. "Maybe I should spare them. Maybe I should just scare them. Show them that I could have wiped them all out, and then show them that I chose not to." But when Charles mentions "just following orders" he changes his mind. "These men will never learn. They must be destroyed."

Days of Future Past fight against sentinels is even better

I can’t get over how stupid the shells look though.

All of superhero movies combined you mean. The misses returning back to those ships gave me chills.

@@franzschubertv2874this was released in 2011 lol

Nope

I'm so grateful for Erik.

*Stan Lee: Let's make the bad guy German. But Jewish!*

It was Chris Claremont who made the decision for Magneto to be Jewish, and a Holocaust survivor, 18 years after the Stan Lee and Jack Kirby invented Magneto and the X-Men. Stan Lee was not writing X- men at that point.

You need to reed more books clown

Stan Lee didn’t write it he just slapped his name on someone else’s product

Not just X-Men, all mutants.

Even humans who weren't mutants at all.

@@bobsponge1877 You can see that Magneto was good at first until the human decided to exterminate his own kind. Never Again!

@@bobsponge1877 Oh yes, humans who persecute, annihilate, judge, discriminate, hate and destroy everything. Yes, human are way better, right. Get off your pathetic high horse. Humans are NOT better. Explain how humans are better? In what way are humans superior? In the last 5 years we've managed to all but tear ourselves apart more times than not. We are NOT better. We CAN do better, but until we do, we are no better than the 99 percent of other forms of life on this planet, if anything were worse.

@@bobsponge1877 that moment when you literally out yourself as racist

If I was indestructible and my friends are about to get killed I will be freaking out about, men, even if it was a bunch of cats and I am a dog person. The fact that you don't understand this is concerning.

@@jaimeduncan6167 he can also teleport other people

@@jaimeduncan6167 u care too much

@@jaimeduncan6167 he is shown to be capable of teleporting other people in this movie

@@josipmarasovic7084 Better than caring too little

Soviet* All Russians were Soviets but not all Soviets were Russians.

Soviet commander says "товарищи, спасибa за службу" "tovarishchi, spasiba za sluzhbu" or "comrades, thank you for (your) service"

​@@StraightEdgeSieghartSoviet from Belarus, Finland, romania too??

​@@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kvThe Soviet Union included 15 different countries. Including Russia or rather the RSFSR (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic). I am still surprised that some people think that the Soviet Union and Russia are one and the same thing

@@Olya0247 most Eastern European countries and Finland right

Jajaja. Es un caso clasico de como la desesperación puede anular tu raciocinio. Charles simplemente intentaba dar cualquier motivo para evitar que Erik cometa una masacre. Después de todo, eso era lo convenido. Si no vencían a los malos, la isla sería bombardeada. Sabían eso e igual se metieron a la isla.

Also, because Erik was wearing the helmet that blocks Charles’s powers, Charles was left with only words to dissuade Erik from making that choice. Without the helmet, I’m sure Charles would have been able to affect the outcome.

It's scenes like this that give so much context to Erik decades from this moment saying "You think just because you can see inside my head you know how it feels?" Charles is capable of feeling other people's emotions and understanding a lot of what goes on in their conscious mind. But really digging deeper into their subconscious and truly seeing people for who they are and what THEIR understanding of their feelings is (rather than Charles' understanding), is something that does still take work for him. And sure, Erik had the helmet on here. But Charles made it very clear he'd dug through literally all of Erik's memories prior to this point, even ones Erik himself had forgotten. But Charles' views from his own life can distort his perception of those memories. Erik's memories led him to believe that the humans would turn on them the second Shaw died. He was right. Charles should have also anticipated that. Hell, he should have seen it coming before even Erik did, since he could read the minds of every CIA operative they were near, and should have predicted how they would react based on that. But Charles is often incapable of looking at things objectively. For the record I think these are good things from a story perspective since it makes the dynamic between Charles and Erik a lot more interesting.

He tried she was just to heavy to lift. 😂

@@zom8680 probably those meat between her legs

Her uniform isn’t…..real, right? Maybe that’s why he can’t push her back?

@@zom8680ouch! 😂

@@user-rh4qd6se9n it has to be or she would pass out in the plane

Actual I say number one quote not to say to a Holocaust survivor, You can tell Magneto was thinking about his decision whether to send the missiles back to the ships or not, but Charles destroyed that hope by "Their just following orders."

Was he in peace though? Doesn't seem like it, not there and not for al his future life

@@Baddaby No - I didn’t say he was in peace. The point is that Xavier was wrong - peace wasn’t what Erik needed. Also, peace was never an option.

Xavier was also wrong about humanity’s attitudes to mutants in the end. SPOILER ALERT In the events of Logan, if we’re considering a war between mutants and humans, the humans have essentially won. The best way to commit genocide is to make sure no new members of that race are born, and that’s exactly what Zander Rice did with his GMO food.

​@@ShaunakDesaiPianoLogan isn't canon to the main timeline, it's an alternate timeline built around giving Hugh Jackman a good sendoff. We know it's not canon because we see young mutants running around in the DoFP epilogue, young enough to be born after the year they say mutants stopped being born in Logan.

​@@MystrohanSadly, not for Erik, no. But it is an option for others, which is what makes their rivalry so compelling, the way Mags becomes a manifestation of the cycle of violence. He's a compelling ass character.

Ironic that Magneto has referred to Neanderthals cuz sad reality is Troglodites didnt have such weapons & skills against CroMagnon Homo Sapiens so they were genicided by Franks ancestors. Who? The Germans. History does move in topsy turvy cycles not in mysterious ways. Only thing that never changes since stone age is that endless Waltz, the WAR. So stupid.

BOOM! No more life on Earth!

Apes take over after annihilation

yeah except now it's better bc now they have a reason to distrust mutants..they're decendants of the DEVIANTS

… this is that scene.

​@@salvadormartinez8577 No, this was the scene where he first does that, and then it's shown what he tries to do and the consequences that came along

what holocaust?

​@@steve4njTHE holocaust

@@steve4nj As far as i know, magneto was a holocaust survivor in that movie.

​@@yatzeegamingopI think he was making a "the holocaust didn't happen" joke

​@@steve4nj The holocaust is when the nazis were killing jewish people. Erik was one of them, but he survived the war

you could say they all got out of there in one piece... except for charles, he got the short straw.

Or "Freedom Strike" from Counterside.

Ohara Lives

@@dastardlybastardthe2nd Ohara lives.

Wait for it... X-Men 97 episode 2 😏☕

@@I-own-2-dogs-now92 it's never again. No never WATCHING again

When the allegory flies over your head because you accept the canon so hard lmao

Exactly, just give everyone super powers, and unlike nature we can probably give everyone every super power all at once

Only because the movies downplay the power of mutants, to the point when even Dark Phoenix is not very impressive. In comics, any of the omega level mutants can destroy the entire planet, unless stopped by an equally strong superhero. And many mutants can't be killed by anyone.

It'll be a definite "cold" war made up of some kinda "rules" that humans and mutants wage. While humans are probably the greatest hunters and have been for hundred thousand years these mutants pose a new threat to human dominance over the earth. Unfortunately, there is no Earth 2.0 and until everyone figures that out there will always be a slow rolling war amongst the two factions. But make no mistake humans have the upper hand in terms of vast resources such as the making of Sentinels. We have cameras that can catch light, slow it down to almost nothing, this incorporating it into a Sentinel for example would make light speed mutants useless. Super strength mutants would mean little either. Eventually the technological side of humanity would wipe out mutants.

If humans become a mutant society, whereby things like status etc. were based upon mutant powers (as is bound to happen), that'll be the end of our story. This is because of "overspecialisation" (for the lack of a better term). Humans have come this far simply because unlike other powerful species on this planet, we received only limited direct natural gifts. We didn't have some natural occurring "shtick", whether venom or claws and fangs etc. to centre our living around. So we were forced to use our brains to solve problems as well as band together into cohesive societies (both these pressures further selected for intelligence and social adaptation).

But would you be willing to kill that many people

@@paulgentili1425 Me? No, but it doesn't change the fact it is a justified retaliation

@@paulgentili1425 i mean if they tried killing me

@@paulgentili1425 Yes I will. If they are willing to kill, they must also risk death.

@@merikmalhads1676 if i baby strikes you, are you justified in falcon punching them?

You tell Magneto was ponding whether to release the missiles into the sea or send them back to the ships, Eric hadn't made a firm decision at that moment "Maybe Charles is right and this was a misunderstanding." However, after Charles's disastrous reasoning, Eric: "Right they, (humans) have chosen death."

😂😂😂

Considering the outcome, yes, it WAS a good idea to shoot metal bullets at Magneto, because that forced him to choose between controlling her bullets or controlling the naval salvo.

@@rileymclaughlin4831 eh he only let the bombs go once he realized one hit Xavier, still a shit plan.

shoot enough of them and it wont matter ceramic would be the better choice, not all metals are magnetic. and those warheads were very explosive, last time i checked he wasnt blast proof

At that time they didn’t know what each mutant on the beach could really do.

What if they were proper shells instead of rockets

Magneto doesn't just "control metal" He has power over the entire electromagnetic spectrum ​@@zachariastsampasidis8880

Lol 😂

에릭이 겪었던 참을 수 없는 공포, 분노, 복수심 조차 진정한 사랑 앞에선 무너졌습니다.

Why everything has to be imagined in that way?Charles was his best friend

Yuck. Why can one just be friends anymore? Why the big push for queerness? Erik and Charles have always been FRIENDS! Not lovers. Yes they do have a strong bond but that of friends!

​@@DarthVoxynmaybe the original comment was a joke not meant to be taken seriously?

I thought Jean Grey is omega lv not Charles :v

Yeah at first Charles was like "Damn... neat."

I see Days of Future Past as a tight contender. But I agree, this one is slightly better.

​@@nestoreleuteriopaivabendo5415 Dofp was more epic, but this one was more touching due to Charles and Erik's relationship and backstory

For real dude

Well her name is not McSniper. Its McTarget. Thats why Armies couldnt help but fire at all of them.

i think his power was not that strong yet there was no people mind freeze scene in this movie

Even if he were powerful enough to it at that point in his life, I don't think his morals would have allowed him to forcibly take control of others at that point. In this movie, and in most of the characters screen time in the Fox franchise, Xavier only uses his telepathy to as a sort of communication tool with others. Its shown earlier in the movie when Erik goes hunting Shaw in the beached sub.

@@zeoo113 He changes the mind of the CIA dude to drive to the secret site instead of talking to his bosses.

@@toakongu1 He stopped Shaw. And it's not really morally wrong to at the very least inform the generals that the situation has been resolved. He doesn't have to freeze them just let them know that "Yeah it's fine people! We're all fine down here".

@@delta9685 I mean crowd and the distance was another factor

Like Magneto did NOT know there were refugees on those boats. He could’ve literally said “some of them are thinking of their mutant children and there’s a refugee boat,”.

Yes for sure.

It make sense, since Charles was the only person who saw Magneto turning the huge sattelite dish.

Maybe in his past life Erik was an innocent victim of the Black and Tans.

Fassbender is half-Irish. Maybe he was tired.

Yeah but this was a very tense moment and people don’t think clearly in such emotional turmoil.

Huge difference between defending yourself (just stopping the missiles) and actively attack them back with said missiles

@Baddaby circumstantial considering it was only the first volley, had Erik simply deflected them they'd likely fire another volley to neutralize the threat, Erik launching them back IS defending himself because they would've kept firing. If someone emptied their entire mag shooting at you but missed every shot you'd be WELL within your rights to shoot them and it would be ruled self defense

@@cliffordgardner7975 they shot out of precaution because no one answered. Stopping the missiles means they were in control of the situation

@@Baddaby no they shot because they were ORDERED to fire and take out the mutant threat. Mactagart tried to radio in the all clear but they were cool with wiping her out too

Top of the morgan.

I never noticed that when I first watched the movie, and now that you pointed it out, I can't un-hear it... 😂

If I'm remembering correctly Fassbender mentions his fluctuating accent in one of his interviews

@@freshandzesty1111 he had it downpat by days of future past tho. he sounded exactly like ian mckellan in that film

It's especially weird because a Holocaust survivor shouldn't have either English nor Irish. They would have either German, Western Slavic or Hungarian. With the name Erik Lensherr, probably German.

I think he was just in a moment of shock, by the time he got out of it Magneto stopped all of the missiles.

I love when Magneto sends a bullet into Charles's spine and acts all sad and sorry about it. That shows how cunning and sinister of a mutant Magneto is.

And still not even close of his true potential 😄

Anyone can do that.

Where's the fun in that? Returning back their projectiles back is the way to go

Well when they’ve already fired their ordnance at you and it’s still hanging in the air, you might as well make use of that 😂