X-Men Origins: Madelyne Pryor, The Goblin Queen

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History of the Marvel Universe No. 265
The Origin of Madelyne Pryor, the Goblin Queen
Sources:
Scott and Jean
- X-Men 032 (1967)
- X-Men 048 (1968)
- X-Men 098 (1976)
Mister Sinister
- Uncanny X-Men 243 (1989)
- Further Adventures of Cyclops and Jean Grey 004 (1996)
- Cable Annual '99 (1999)
Cyclops and the Orphanage
- X-Factor 039 (1989)
- Classic X-Men 041-042 (1989)
Creation of the Clone
- Uncanny X-Men 240-241 (1989)
The First X-Man
- X-Men 042 (1968)
The Phoenix Saga
- Uncanny X-Men 098-101 (1976)
- Uncanny X-Men 134-137 (1980)
- Classic X-Men 008 (1987)
- Excalibur 052 (1992)
The Clone Awakens
- Uncanny X-Men 241 (1989)
- X-Factor 038 (1989)
Madelyne Pryor
- Uncanny X-Men 168 (1983)
- Uncanny X-Men 170-177 (1983)
Secret Wars
- Marvel Super-Heroes: Secret Wars (1984-1985)
Madelyne Summers
- Uncanny X-Men 181 (1984)
- Uncanny X-Men 197 (1985)
Anodyne
- X-Men and Alpha Flight 001-002 (1985-1986)
The Birth of Nathan Summers
- Uncanny X-Men 200-201 (1986-1986)
The Return of Jean Grey
- Avengers 263 (1986)
- Fantastic Four 286 (1986)
- X-Factor 001 (1986)
The Assassination of Madelyne Pryor
- Uncanny X-Men 206 (1986)
- Uncanny X-Men 215 (1987)
- X-Factor 038 (1989)
Jean learns about Madelyne
- X-Factor 007-008 (1986)
Madelyne Awakens
- Uncanny X-Men 215 (1987)
- Uncanny X-Men 221 (1987)
- Uncanny X-Men 223-224 (1987)
Death and Return of the X-Men
- Uncanny X-Men 227 (1988)
- X-Factor 027 (1988)
- Uncanny X-Men 230 (1988)
- X-Men Annual 012 (1988)
S'ym and Otherplace
- Uncanny X-Men 160 (1982)
- Uncanny X-Men 231 (1988)
- New X-Men 037 (2007)
- Official Tarot of the Marvel Universe (2007)
The Fall of Madelyne Pryor
- Uncanny X-Men 232-238 (1988)
- X-Factor 038 (1989)
Sugar Man
- X-Men Prime 001 (1995)
Inferno
- Uncanny X-Men 239 (1988)
- X-Factor 035 (1989)
- X-Terminators 003-004 (1988-1989)
- Uncanny X-Men 240 (1989)
- X-Factor 036 (1989)
- Uncanny X-Men 241 (1989)
- X-Factor 037 (1989)
- Uncanny X-Men 242 (1989)
- X-Factor 038 (1989)
- Uncanny X-Men 243 (1989)
- X-Factor 039 (1989)
Cable
- New Mutants 087 (1990)
- X-Factor 068 (1991)
- Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix (1994)
The Return of Madelyne Pryor
- X-Man 005 (1995)
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@MerryMarvelite Ай бұрын

Hey, heroes! I'm going to be streaming again on Twitch this weekend! On Saturday I'll be starting Donkey Kong Country 3 while on Sunday it's more Yakuza Kiwami 2! www.twitch.tv/merrymarvelite

@christopherulichney Ай бұрын

Everyone though that the Hellfire Club White Queen and Black Queen showed too much skin, then Madelyne turned evil and said HOLD MY BEER.

@keithdrummond1003 8 күн бұрын

Gods bless her...

@jackofallclaws6672 Ай бұрын

I’m glad that X-Men 97 gave Madilyn much better treatment.

@snoopy4749 Ай бұрын

They have her a watered down version for TV

@jerfuhrer2581 Ай бұрын

Me too, though it was a nit rushed. Like, not even 2 episodes on it?

@jackofallclaws6672 Ай бұрын

@@jerfuhrer2581 Yeah, I agree that it was definitely rushed…but still entertaining nonetheless.

@christopherbennett5858 Ай бұрын

It’s a little rushed, yes. However, due to the nature of the 92 series keeping Jean alive after Dark Phoenix, the “Sinister switched them” situation was the most effective way they could make Maddie’s reveal have some gravitas. Plus, she got to say goodbye to Nathan and neither she or cyclops were given their worst moments.

@quentinfogger5755 Ай бұрын

Are we going to see her next getting powers from the demon S'ym?

@WhiteRaven696 Ай бұрын

Madelyne 👏🏽 Did 👏🏽 Nothing 👏🏽 Wrong 👏🏽 Screw Cyclops.

@christopherbennett5858 Ай бұрын

The only things she did wrong were almost sacrifice the babies and kill Threnody. Oh and that moment with X-Man.

@raypaz2947 Ай бұрын

@@christopherbennett5858plus bang his little brother.

@raypaz2947 Ай бұрын

I don’t think she did anything wrong in the beginning. Once she chose to be the Goblin Queen that’s where she went down the wrong path. I understand what Scott did was slimy. In the end it was a big mess but dang it what a great read. The drama was high hahaa. The story was interesting.

@Dhampir101980 Ай бұрын

Thank Goodness X-men 97 trimmed all this down to an understandable single focused, emotionally intimate episode.

@foldabotZ Ай бұрын

As well taking to account all the stuff the original 1992 animated series had already established prior.

@christopherulichney Ай бұрын

So the Phoenix Force "cloned" Jean, and that clone turned into the evil Dark Phoenix. And Mr. Sinister cloned Jean, and that clone turned I to the evil Goblin Queen. It seems to me like cloning Jean is a bad idea, unless you want to create a powerful super-villain. My suggestion for a future video is the Alpha Flight member SASQUATCH. As always, MAKE MINE THE MERRY MARVELITE!!!!

@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever115 Ай бұрын

Yes, please make a continuation video of Madelyn Pryor's story.

@wtfrocks8663 Ай бұрын

This storyline was pretty hard to keep up with, for my 14 year old brain, when it originally hit the shelves. 40 years later, the story holds peoples attention. There were only about 6 people in my school that knew comic book stores existed. Now millions of people are thirsting for comic book stories. F'ing Crazy!

@christopherbennett5858 Ай бұрын

I think one of the big things is that we’re seeing a character who would’ve been dismissed as just a clone get depicted by people who liked her, During the pandemic, this one guy started a podcast called Cerebro where, each episode, he brought someone in to talk about a favourite X men character they liked and trimmed down the retcons you don’t need to worry about. For his 100th episode, he did a five part one on Maddie spanning almost 20 hours. The last part were listener questions. It was wild. He might be responsible for all the people who are now big fans of Selene lol.

@uxm4life94 Ай бұрын

Great video as always. If there is a part 2 the Nate Grey/Madelyne relationship sure gets creepy!

@amanzeihedioha Ай бұрын

Understatement!!

@christopherbennett5858 Ай бұрын

Disclaimer; Nate Grey is the Sinister grown child of Scott and Jean from Age of Apocalypse. Not Cable. Cable is Maddie’s son. I just hope she doesn’t kill Threnody this time around.

@nicholascorrin4648 Ай бұрын

Perfect timing!!!🎉🎉🎉❤❤

@marvelgirl8198 Ай бұрын

Would love more Madelyne related content! More X-Men Content! Please

@nicholasnorman4179 Ай бұрын

Busting make me feel good

@leoneljaramillo6710 Ай бұрын

Wow that was so much more fleshed out and unhinged than what I imagined after x-men 97

@jackofallclaws6672 Ай бұрын

Is it wrong that I really want MM to do a video on Sauron? For 2 reasons: 1: I’m genuinely curious about the character. 2: Because MM has stated a few times that he likes bringing him up and I thought he would appreciate the opportunity. TL;DR: I just wanted to be nice and thought the idea would bring a smile to your face.😊

@raypaz2947 Ай бұрын

For sure part 2. Let’s see how it went with Maddie. I know but I like how well you are able to edit down the story to specific characters. Great job.

@PimpfDM92 Ай бұрын

Thanks for bringing back this background story of Madelyne , how crazy Sinister scheduled this from day one, Poor Scott and poor Maddie having to go through all that because of a madman. It. Is a nice time to introduce the character with the X-men 97 launch. I have to admit from those first 3 episodes I like more the treatment they made of Maddie and all the background story in the tv show, less “tragic” somehow and Madelyne comes out as a good person in the end . Can’t wait to see Sinister coming soon to the X-men 97show. Great video and hope you make a part 2 with Madelyne new involvement again with Havok, Inferno and Chasm ! Good job 👍🏼

@SunStarSounds Ай бұрын

“Did you just say ‘hitherto unseen’?” 18:20

@seeleunit2000 Ай бұрын

Hitherto is an actual word.

@SunStarSounds Ай бұрын

@@seeleunit2000 I know, I was referencing Tony’s line in Infinity War

@Shadowace724 Ай бұрын

I loved Maddie, she was an innocent victim but damn for awhile she was so kick ass.

@johnpittsii7524 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video ❤

@silverfuryranger Ай бұрын

Awesome video. Want more of Pryor❤

@Sevenfeet0 Ай бұрын

Good video. I read all the X-men comics in college during the 1980s but stopped right before Madelyn Pryor was introduced. This summary makes a lot more sense how the character’s arc originally formed, as well as why she was called Madelyn Pryor or the Goblin Queen in the first place, which seems kind of random choices in X-Men ‘97.

@jerfuhrer2581 Ай бұрын

Lets go, Maddy part 2!!

@CHARLESJOHNSON-gv7zy Ай бұрын

THIS CHANNEL IS EXCELSIOR 👍 ..

@FanboyimusPrime Ай бұрын

Yeah I would love to see a part two of this.

@AgentNevets Ай бұрын

Oh god yes. Please cover more. I can’t wait sit to see the X-Man stuff, and the he current X-Men leader, Maddie.

@dfailsthemost Ай бұрын

This is brutal. It's like a waking nightmare version of a bad breakup.

@quentinfogger5755 Ай бұрын

Are you going to do history of Ironheart, M'Baku, Namora, Attuma and Shuri as the Black Panther since they played a major role in the Black Panther Wakanda Forever movie?

@jackieanderson9408 Ай бұрын

This was sweet 🎂

@felixlopez7908 Ай бұрын

Please do a part 2!

@trexadvent4726 Ай бұрын

Can you do history of the characters mentioned in this video? If you did the history of Madelyn Pryor in honour of the release of X-Men 97 show, Are you going to do history of Changeling and Bishop next?

@pierrebuieii3908 Ай бұрын

I heard half the story thanks for the rest

@NintendoFreakX Ай бұрын

Please do more stories with this character, I beg you!!!🙏

@kaiden3ds95 Ай бұрын

Could you please do a video on the Great Lakes Avengers? They’re my favorite wacky marvel team!!

@keithdrummond1003 8 күн бұрын

Same

@trembledust6819 Ай бұрын

Yes. I'd like to know how Maddie returned. Thanks for vid!

@quentinfogger5755 Ай бұрын

Can you do history of Ironheart, Amatsu-Mikaboshi, Arno_Stark Iron Man, Squirrel_Girl, Constrictor, Deathlok, Amadeus_Cho, the Griever, Pepper Potts AKA Rescue and the Agents of Atlas along with Crescent, Morgan_Le_Fey, White Fox and Luna Snow?

@quentinfogger5755 Ай бұрын

Can you do history of the Living_Brain, the Elementals, Cyclone, Hydro Man, Molten Man, Puck, Ahab, Rom_the_Spaceknight, Stingray, Noh-Varr Marvel_Boy, Starbrand, Nightmask, Ava Ayala the White Tiger, Crossfire, Living Laser, Century, Lore and Technovore?

@JL-vt5uo Ай бұрын

YEY! da momma of one of my favorites

@dionneking8 Ай бұрын

Love her

@Artisan1979 Ай бұрын

Give us a part two

@quentinfogger5755 Ай бұрын

So when are you going to do history of Zora_Vukovic Victorious since you did the history of Dr_Doom?

@quentinfogger5755 Ай бұрын

Which movie or TV Show do you think did a great job in portraying Madelyn Pryor? What was the best thing about her from the X-Men 97 show? Do you think we should have seen a live action version of her in the Deadpool 2 movie?

@trexadvent4726 Ай бұрын

Can you do history of the Elementals(Hellfire, Magnum, Hydron and Zephyr), Bastion, Master Mold, Nimrod, Inferno, Zora_Vukovic Victorious, Night Nurse, Lady-Lotus, Sundragon and Phyla_Vell along with the Supreme Intelligence, Puppet_Master, Diablo, Mole_Man and Angel Salvador/Tempest along with Exodus and Ex-Nhilo?

@manveltutundjyan4933 Ай бұрын

please make a another video on her

@gabrielmorse9306 Ай бұрын

Well if X-Men ‘97 runs long enough, we may see this explored a little more.

@trexadvent4726 Ай бұрын

Are you going to do history of lesser known characters like Rom_the_Spaceknight, Stingray, Ultimo, Inferno, Zora_Vukovic Victorious, Flerken, Blacklash, Deathlok, Elematrix, Vertigo, Ahab, Orb, Speed freak, Masked Raider, Red_Wolf, Tarantula, Forge, Bishop, Titanium_Man, Crimson Dynamo, Dreadknight, Deathcry, Kobik AKA the Cosmic Cube, Blizzard, Avril Kincaid Quasar, Starbrand, Nightmask, Bastion, Master Mold, Nimrod, Starhawk, Fixer, Whirlwind, Chemistro, Whiplash, the Controller, Madam_Masque, Count_Nefaria, Ava Ayala the White Tiger, Crossfire, Living Laser, Century, Lore and Technovore?

@keithdrummond1003 8 күн бұрын

I mean, your schedule is open tomorrow...

@quentinfogger5755 Ай бұрын

How's Madelyn Pryor compared to the clone of her son who's Stryfe, who do you think would win between them? Is Madelyn Pryor similar to the Scarlet Spider? Can you do history of Stryfe and scarlet spider?

@LennyT007 Ай бұрын

Scott Summers / Cyclops is the Ross Geller of the X-Men. 🙃

@bobbywoodart5269 Ай бұрын

That's pretty messed up. Always knew about Maddy but didn't know the whole story

@mueezadam8438 Ай бұрын

Scott summers, loving husband: no one cares 😎

@amanzeihedioha Ай бұрын

😔

@hshsidieahsbd7242 Ай бұрын

Is the loving husband in the room with us rn lmao?

@trexadvent4726 Ай бұрын

What do you think is the best thing about Madelyn Pryor in the comics compared to Jean Grey? Which one of her powers and abilities do you think is the best?

@Tyln93 Ай бұрын

MK Ultra Program!!! Multiple Personalities!!! Goblin Queen = Jean Grey's Dark Alter Ego!!!

@munirmalik9040 Ай бұрын

Love your videos....but the background music makes it really difficult to concentrate on your words... most of your recent videos were without the background music and I have really enjoyed those more

@uxm4life94 Ай бұрын

We need more Goblin Queen cosplayers

@amanzeihedioha Ай бұрын

Agreed

@CB-ke7eq Ай бұрын

Check out the big brain on this guy!

@trexadvent4726 Ай бұрын

Is Madelyn Pryor working the power of S'ym similar to the Scarlet_Witch working with the power of Chthon? Can you do history of Chthon and S'ym?

@MrMetro-mt5qv Ай бұрын

And now we got Deadpool running around with Cable’s time traveling device.

@keithdrummond1003 8 күн бұрын

Isn't the power depleted?

@trexadvent4726 Ай бұрын

Can you do history of S'ym, Shroud, Master Pandemonium, Sleepwalker, D'Spayre, Lilith, Chthon, Mephisto, Black heart, Dormammu, Doyle Dormammu, Clea, Nightmare and Pkzkrfmknna along with Crystal, Magma and Vance_Astrovik AKA Justice?

@keithdrummond1003 8 күн бұрын

Pkzkrfmknna? TF?

@DearBoi-mg2fb Ай бұрын

I'm still amazed how people route for this evil character! What a wicked world we live in! SMH

@markhouston1558 Ай бұрын

Didn’t Maddie appear in Avengers as a child?

@robmarconi6758 Ай бұрын

Wow, the fact that Madelyn helped Scott lose in the fight with Storm just cheapens her victory

@JudgementalGoat Ай бұрын

Part 2!, part 2, part 2!!!❤

@ziveisenstodt2477 Ай бұрын

P2 plzzz

@abc_cba Ай бұрын

Just everyone has been having Pheonix upon them. It's become very irrelevant.

@quentinfogger5755 Ай бұрын

What do you think makes Madelyn Pryor and her son Nathan Summers as good as or better than Jean Grey and her daughter Rachel Summers? Both of them conceived their kids with Cyclops. Can you do history of Rachel Summers?

@missskabls2247 Ай бұрын

👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

@robertrowley4929 Ай бұрын

The thing that bugs me is: why didn’t Madelyn just go with Bishop back to his timeline and raise her son there? It would’ve been much more satisfying to see Madelyn take her leave with Nathan there.

@amanzeihedioha Ай бұрын

Maddie😢 Seriously, terrible terrible characterization for Cyclops in this era🤨

@kevinboutwell Ай бұрын

aw yeah inferno

@chaossonic1237 Ай бұрын

How did she return

@timothymoore6341 Ай бұрын

Through Krakoa's Resurrectiion Protocol's. But she's been back several times. She is connected to the Phoenix Force, just like Jean.

@juanbisonosuero3650 Ай бұрын

What is that any adaptation of the dark Phoenix Saga ignores the shear with exception of the 90s cartoon do they think a race of alien bird people are just weird?

@PsychoticFruitfly Ай бұрын

it's Shi'ar, and probably because they're viewed as not completely absolutely necessary to the story.

@juanbisonosuero3650 Ай бұрын

@@PsychoticFruitfly interesting because most adaptation basically finish the story in the hellfire club part

@christopherbennett5858 Ай бұрын

If that

@foldabotZ Ай бұрын

With the exception of the 90s animated series, there can never a direct 1-to-1 adaptation of the Dark Phoenix saga because it'd rely heavily on a lot of pre-established continuity and _a lot_ more characters that had to be introduced prior. It's too big a story to squeeze into a 2-hour movie.

@juanbisonosuero3650 Ай бұрын

@@foldabotZ wolverine and the x-men, x-men anime AND the ultimate x-men ( the shear we're a colt) also didn't include any of that.

@trexadvent4726 Ай бұрын

Is it shocking that Madelyn Pryor tries to have an affair with Havok when he's her brother in law? Can you do history of Havok?

@BrrrLocc Ай бұрын

I bet you the whatever you call it dei..marvel ppl will give us Inferno with their spin on it.

@trexadvent4726 Ай бұрын

Why's Madelyn Pryor called the Goblin queen and what would happen if she was part of the Hellfire club? Is she similar to Emma Frost and Selene?

@johncolosimo1863 Ай бұрын

I can't help but think that if Cyclops had honored his marriage to Madelyne, the whole Infernal arch wouldn't had happened. It's crap like that made me really dislike Scott.

@christopherbennett5858 Ай бұрын

Yeah, that X factor run was what made me dislike Angel. I mean, he’s ratting Scott out (Scott was awful making the guys keep Maddie and Nathan a secret) but he did so to get close to Jean. Meanwhile, Angel’s girlfriend, Candy Southern, was running his company whilst he was neglecting her.

@edwinbetancourt3958 Ай бұрын

You meant his "marriage", because he was scammed.

@johncolosimo1863 Ай бұрын

@@christopherbennett5858 Yeah... I guess both character were rubbish in that story arch.

@johncolosimo1863 Ай бұрын

@@edwinbetancourt3958 No, I meant marriage.

@christopherbennett5858 Ай бұрын

@@johncolosimo1863 That’s why he loses his wings. Candy travels to see him and finds Warren and Jean hugging after he’s been avoiding her for over a month and she breaks up with him. He could’ve followed after her but he went into the tunnels instead. And that’s how his wings were harpooned. A month later, after freeing himself from Apocalypse, he goes to apologise but finds out that, not only was she getting dirt on Cameron Hodge, but she is missing. Turned out Cameron hodge tortured and killed her because Angel loved her. Yeah… the talented Mr Ripley vibes are all about with Cameron Hodge. At least she had a good send off in Phalanx Covenant. And I would like it if she reappeared.