X-Trans vs Bayer: Which is Better? FUJI Blind Test

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@llmagei 4 жыл бұрын

It seems like C and D had more dynamic range and captured the highlights slightly better.

@murmor6890 4 жыл бұрын

The dead give away is the better noise that looks like grain C and D have. I would also say they performed better, but really is also the quality and not only the amount of noise.

@davidbryant88 3 жыл бұрын

I have the x-t100. It only has 8 stops of dynamic range unfortunately. The xt2 has 13 and the xt3 has 14.

@blackjack8957 3 жыл бұрын

Hands down to it, they are also natural.

@neoseyes 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidbryant88 Yes I have the x-T100 and skyes are always blown out, but when i photograph paintings it does very well with color and resolution

@momchilyordanov8190 4 жыл бұрын

These photos were so similar, it's borderline madness to chase your tale trying to differentiate.

@neoseyes 3 жыл бұрын

Actually when you learn to know what to look for its not that hard

@josecaringal 4 жыл бұрын

My pick was C. Which fits my preference (X-trans sensor). But the Bayer cameras can also keep up regarding they can be acquired for a more affordable price. Thank you for the hard work! I really like these kind of blind comparisons because what you see is what you get for my photography I tend to focus on taking photos, camera experience, and the memories I get to keep. (This is just me I know others need specs because they need it for work and I'm totally fine with that because photography is an expression and it's up to ourselves how we express it with our own way. Don't be so harsh on yourself this video satisfies the needs of both enthusiasts and pixel peepers. ✌🏻Thank you Andrew and Denae! (*Stay safe both of you and your family during this times.)😊

@overhang88 4 жыл бұрын

such a great video. Well done this is so useful and so much work has gone into it.

@Lyclah 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Andrew just wanted to say loooove your videos, your general approach to things, attitude and mindset. Thanks for sharing all with us!

@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@grayexperience 3 жыл бұрын

It was actually all over the place for me, but C was consistently what I was drawn to for overall image quality (especially for detail and noise rendering). I love these blind tests!

@LockeLeon 3 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to repeat a blind test including also the new Bayer sensors in the X-T200 and A-7

@6wisk 2 жыл бұрын

@X D sony isnt even mentioned here

@laurensspitzner 4 жыл бұрын

I definitely preferred "C" and "D" (with a slight edge for C) when comparing the SOOC JPGs. I found their dynamic range and contrast to be better. Also I thought they had more vivid / saturated colours. Also low light / high ISO (?) performance was better in those. The only comparison that another sensor won was "B" for the last one - somehow the fabric texture resolution was nicer in both "A" and "B". Also mostly the same for the RAW comparison. Seeing the result I was not surprised. Though now I think I may have been biased to the look of "C" since that's what I own myself. Thank you very much for this and all your other great videos!

@jschu27 4 жыл бұрын

I’m having so many of the same thoughts. I was loving C and D all the way until the fabric and then I was upset, I thought the fabric was much better with A and B - I own an X100V and X-T30 so I definitely was ‘feeling the love’ on those pictures more, wondering if that’s what I had - turns out it is that same sensor type!

@videojeroki 4 жыл бұрын

I preferences: - JPG Straight out the camera: A and C - RAW from Darktable: C

@chrissoclone 4 жыл бұрын

I honestly couldn't tell the difference in most pics, although I thought one or two times "Bayer" when A/B came up I wasn't sure because I blamed a different exposure for the differences. Anyway, I did some testing 2 or 3 years ago, not to see the X-Trans/Bayer difference but to find the best "out of the box" Raw converter, and while testing I saw clear differences between my Bayer (X-A1, X100) and X-Trans (X-E1, X-T1), but mostly in high ISO images where the Bayer files showed much more color noise at the same ISO than X-Trans. The amount of noise was the same, but X-Trans was more monochromatic and pleasant, also appeared to remain more detailed. All the rest is too much pixelpeeping for me, the worminess/foliage is mainly a Lightroom issue and preventable with other converters. Darktable wasn't super high on my list though.

@garethnoble11 4 жыл бұрын

Impressive in so many ways. Firstly this was another quality video - you just want to get into it. Secondly this got an exceptionally balanced series of responses. Denae and Andrew's "kindness before cameras" edict clearly draws and retains a great group of subscribers. The test also re-enforced for me the message that for the emotional engagement with a photo, provided things are not so bad that you're being distracted by the materials, it doesn't matter which sensor you have. You do need something which gets you excited enough to go out shooting. Which is what I'm going to do now with my X-T20.

@wingofwinter888 Жыл бұрын

my choice A and C are xtran but honestly every camera has it own unique rendering, cheap or expensive, i couldnt tell. i think we can give picasso the cheapest brush and he still will be making a masterpiece painting with it. looks like expensive gears only make it easier or faster? or more comfortable? but its always coming down to the pilot

@noahcrumrine4228 4 жыл бұрын

Whew, I was right on (I think that first set of “dixie” images is very illustrative in the deepness of the oranges especially)-my fav was D though (guess this bodes well since I shoot an X-T20).

@garymanning4578 4 жыл бұрын

I honestly got the sensors (not the actual models) correctly but it only confirmed what I found when I compared an X-T1/2/3 in lightroom. XT1 lowest DR and Sharpness obvious when zoomed to 100%, XT2 Great DR and the sharpest results of the three @ 100%, XT3 best DR but still very sharp@ 100%. They are all brilliant and when just viewing the uncropped pictures the XT1 was the most pleasing image each time. Now have sold them all and got an XT4, performs with some magical software and an apparent improvement in Dynamic range (not scientific but visible), better colour depth and produces the finest and most satisfying images I have shot with any Fuji X series camera. Don't take pictures of brick walls, don't use test charts I just take pictures, so happy with this new body. Love your blind comparisons.

@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting about the Xt4 and DR. Definitely something I will look at

@youngum78 4 жыл бұрын

If you actually think that the differences in these sensors make a difference in your photos, then you're focusing on the wrong things. You're such a great photographer Andrew! Please stop making videos that nit-pick gear and continue to make the awesome content that focuses on your creative process and the things that inspire you and Denae(Which I'm a big fan of BTW)!!! Much love!

@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын

correct. it makes little difference. I think I mentioned that in the video. But I'm a geek as much as an artist and I enjoy diving into these sorts of questions. Thank you for the kind words.

@EDHBlvd 4 жыл бұрын

I focused the most on the shots of your daughters eyes, as I recently got a Ricoh GR3 and its my first Bayer sensor camera since moving to Fuji back in the day with the X100S. What I am finding is that it almost seems like a Bayer filter WITHOUT AA FILTER, seems to add a slight more detail and grittiness to the pictures. In these eye compares though, it also seemed like the Xtrans pics had a smoother look to them. Not softness per se, just smoothness.

@markh2351 4 жыл бұрын

Must add that I am a big fan of the X-Trans sensor. I have used all forms of digital capture, large and small and from very many brands and the lack of false colour shifts, moire and other digital artefacts from these AA filter-less sensors is such a joy and problem-free experience (after the initial learning curve the RAW converters had to go through).

@boris.dupont 4 жыл бұрын

I switched to Fuji because of the size and weight factor and because I was so impressed by the X-Trans II sensor but I absolutely adore my X100 and X-pro1 and their 'organic' files! Better or worse I don't know. I love the system and the quality. Very interesting video anyway as always, thanks for sharing!

@henrysiegertsz8204 3 жыл бұрын

Both my youngest son and I chose camera D, because the images just looked that little bit sharper, but I confess in some of the images the X-T100 (Camera A) looked crisp, particularly the Camera in the first image, though, finding a difference at all was challenging to my eye! My eldest has an X-T100, I have an X-E3, and X-Pro1 and an X-M1, all X-Trans sensors!

@Sylvester414 4 жыл бұрын

Great work. I have always been interested in this test. I picked C and D as x trans. The sharpness gave it away on the crop in. C was my favorite, although I use the x trans III.

@briansmith8507 4 жыл бұрын

Other than the first scene, where I could detect some slight color differences, I couldn’t really tell the difference between images until the zoom-ins. Which reinforces something I’ve been told by many but only really started to realize for my self the more I progress, (which is a lesson to applied to many things in life..) and that is that (mostly) the camera matters very little. Lenses are arguably more important but the most important gear always seems to be the person a few inches behind the camera. Thanks for a fun video

@thedondeluxe6941 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! I've been waiting for someone to do this for a while :-) Don't really use Fuji gear that much, but I have a full spectrum converted XT-100 that I sometimes use for regular photos with an IR/UV cut filter on the lens. I constantly preferred the "A" and "B" alternatives on all of these, so I guess the Bayer filter is a good choice for me!

@Being_Joe 4 жыл бұрын

Cool to hear you mention Darktable. I have been using RawTherapee for over a year now and I love the output I get (especially with Fuji cameras).

@TerryManning 4 жыл бұрын

I chose images from the X-T3 most often (3, plus one tie), but the X-T100 was right on its heels (1, plus one tie). The X-T20 came in third (1) in my listing. Never picked the X-A5

@AlexOnStreets 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this detailed comparison Andrew. No doubt a lot of work on your end. I think it payed off though showing how similar these cameras really can be. Regardless of the sensor, Fuji are trying to deliver the same IQ across the entire body range. That said.. ya C was the best. Haha ;)

@PeterPelosi 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting test. I found C the most pleasing overall but was actually very impressed with them all. I would be interested to see a video on your workflow. You mentioned Darktable. I see a lot of people on here that use X-Transformer. I have shot Fuji since the S5 Pro and then moved to the X System with the X-Pro 1 and now shoot with an XT-3. I have only recently discovered that not all RAW processors are created equal with X-Trans processing! I would be interested to hear your thoughts. I am currently trying out Capture One which I find excellent but the workflow is a bit clunky compared to Lightroom in my opinion.

@GoranSlika 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another thorough video. I spotted the T3 pretty quickly from the resolution bump in the punch-ins, but to be honest the other three kinda just swirled around until the reveal. I should probably watch again and pause, split it into my own 1-on-1's. On another note, very chill background beats, not sure if you made them or not, but cool Boards of Canada vibes.

@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын

I did not make these ones. No time for beatmaking these days. these are all from Chillhop records (who I absolutely love).

@tomcowing2397 4 жыл бұрын

I followed your instructions and stopped the video to make my comment. I chose "C" most of the time, primarily for the slightly more saturated blue in the sky, and slightly darker greens in the plants. I was surprised to see color blending on all the cameras; for example, with the fabrics where the red yarn was next to white yarn, and you could see areas of pink that were not real. Very interesting and surprising. Thanks for all your effort on doing this.

@CynthiaS1951 4 жыл бұрын

I chose “C”. I was very happy it was from the XT-3, as I just purchased this camera a week ago. Still getting used to the somewhat convoluted menu system! BTW, I enjoy your self deprecating/sarcastic (?) text across the screen (or verbal) regarding comments/complaints on your videos.

@andreasgilgenberg5588 4 жыл бұрын

Great Video again! i picked 4 x D 1xB 1xA i think it can easily be adjusted in post, thanks for your work!

@miguellee3 4 жыл бұрын

Right off the bat, on the first picture I knew which were Xtrans, however I decided to still pick my favorites based on the image rather than the letter. Lo and behold, three favorites were Xtrans and the other three were Bayer. Did not expect that, at all! Thanks for the comparison, Andrew!

@_galterius 4 жыл бұрын

I prefered the A for "sharpness" and details but found the colors a little bit nicer on C and D

@xinli9801 4 жыл бұрын

I'm quite surprised by A's sharpness when the result's been revealed. But C's color is really good to me

@dubaigeek1988 4 жыл бұрын

Loved the test

@douggottlieb 4 жыл бұрын

They all looked great to me. Nice photos too.

@murmor6890 4 жыл бұрын

The difference is in the noise pattern, the Bayer sensor creates these pixel blobs in zones with high noise while the x-trans creates something that looks more like analogue grain which is much more pleasant and also appears sharper to the eye.

@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын

That's the theory. But I don't agree with that. The array is supposed to appear more random. But it's not at all. It's still a repeated pattern. The grain is no better or worse. I used to believe like you're saying, and I'd like to think I have a "practiced eye". And don't get me wrong, I do prefer x-trans in some instances. But the idea that it is a more film-like grain structure, I just can't get behind.

@murmor6890 4 жыл бұрын

@@AndrewGoodCamera Less electronic is probably a better way to phrase it. If you look at 7:11 - 7:42 (the really dark foto) the bayer creates these electronic looking waves between lighter and darker areas and more clusters of bright pixels while the X-Trans just adds a layer of grains. I honestly could easily tell them apart early in the test from looking at the noise. I think randomness is actually not really what it is, it just doesn't cluster light and dark noise so much and also differently which makes it look more exposed than calculated. I have to say that if one likes the difference in noise is very subjective and up to everyones taste, but there is a difference.that can be continuously reproduced.

@tr3vis324 4 жыл бұрын

It looks like A/B jpegs have higher sharpening and blown out highlights, and C/D jpegs have slightly higher saturation and contrast, and a greener tint. C by far seems to have the best low light performance. It's the only option with any details on your stud son's eyelashes. Differences in ISO performance aside though, I wouldn't be able to tell without 100% crops, honestly.

@AnindyaMitraDigitalStoryteller 4 жыл бұрын

I only got the Xt20 right, so for me, the difference in those images is minimal enough to focus on other stuff like recording options, focus points etc. Will wait eagerly for the Xtrans vs Bayer sensor (other brands) video! Ps. I wonder if there's a difference in image Q between the two variants of Fujis Bayer sensors. Although the difference in not in the chip per se but the wiring..

@ryans_life 4 жыл бұрын

I was shocked at the first set at how much difference there was between the 2 sensors. I immediately yelled omg c and d has to be Xtrans. Gorgeous and seriously shocking how much difference there was. I was definitely not prepared but i guess this is why Fuji pushes it so much. Love your content guys. God bless, stay safe.

@MrFiJy 4 жыл бұрын

Bro, no alternative but only C, and D 😉 those xtrans sensors Rock! That’s why I own a Fuji camera🤪

@MrFiJy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for you video! Thumbs up!

@Gabriel-wv1uz 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the test! A & D stood out for me interestingly enough. Sidenote: for the first minutes all I thought of (at my own expense) was pronunciation, from wiki: Bryce Bayer (/ˈbaɪər/; pronounced BYE-er).

@michaelajoseph6856 3 жыл бұрын

I’m still on a fence choosing between Fujifilm x-T30 and x-T200. Thank you so much for this comparison. Now I know that any of the two cameras will serve me well!

@goosenp 4 жыл бұрын

Darktable is amazing! Have you ever thought of making a tutorial video on the process of using it with a fuji x-trans RAF file? The new version seems to have some interesting features, such as the 3D LUT and a new filmic module.

@JHuffPhoto 4 жыл бұрын

Rewatching this and realized I wasn't paying close enough attention to your methodology (even though I watched the first part of the video) I didn't realize that your were changing the pattern for each shot. After re-evaluating it is still a mixed bag. The most telling pics are the really low light ones in the pool. Also at 7:43 and 11:10 you have two of the photos labeled as "D" until you zoom in then you have one of them labeled as "A". I stand by my first statement that they all look good from normal viewing distances and not being pixel peeped in a side by side comparison. The more I watch this the more differences I see. There are definitely trade offs being made on both technologies. It is good to see that Fuji image quality holds up so well even on their entry level products. Some of the differences I am seeing are probably not only attributable to the sensor CFA alone but to the entire image processing pipeline being different among different products. Thanks again for this video.

@gasbike100mpg Жыл бұрын

C and D all the way thru had the x trans? slightly better rendering of colors, a tad richer......ok, just saw your answer key......I WAS RIGHT!! now i understand why you like Fuji, thanks for this test.

@rick-deckard 4 жыл бұрын

Always favored D because of the highlight smooth dropoff, and detail rendering.

@nickbianchi 2 жыл бұрын

Really interesting. I’m quite new into photography. I simply noticed the colour deepness difference of sky and leaves in the first group of photos without being able to tell which is which, but with C+D looking better to me (able to render the slight nuances of the sky and a bit sharper in the leaves). I simply knew that A and B on one hand and C and D on the other hand had the same sensor. The difference came up with the low light photo of the boy and the photos of the dog. There C+D clearly appeared to have the edge over A+B (to me).

@OneCameraOneLens 4 жыл бұрын

It's 2020, they're all really great! Sorry, but I just think each of these are more than adequate in every way for anybody 😍

@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын

No arguments here.

@ColinRobertson_LLAP 4 жыл бұрын

Hard to see any real detail differences here but the color response of C & D definitely stood out to me and reminded me of my beloved (x-trans) X-E3, so I was not surprised when those were the x-trans sensor cameras. I wish I could get colors like that out of my Canon (without so much effort in post)...

@TylerAldrich 4 жыл бұрын

I picked D with C being a very close second and vice versa. Just goes to show how well the old x-trans sensors have held up compared to the newer models. At this point I feel like you are paying a premium for the firmware, video and a couple extra features. The xt-1 and xt-2 (xt20) still hold up very well when compared to the xt3 and xt4 when shooting stills and used prices are beyond a bargain when compared to new.

@arveemn3660 4 жыл бұрын

I am liking D the most and C close second on every comparison before the reveal.

@angumotzfeldt3093 4 жыл бұрын

Low light noise on A and B were very revealing I think. Especially on RAF without noise reduction. I was sure D was X-T3. The cleaner low light performance on X-T20 tricked me. Newer isn't always better.

@1717belle 2 жыл бұрын

Great video... At anything but the most magnified view, I couldn't see any difference. For the pixel peeping, I liked C and D due to less noise and more pleasing "grain". I was prepared for C and D to be Bayer based on some other comparisons I've seen(in those cases, with multiple manufacturers) but it also makes sense that Fuji would put better sensors in their high end cameras. Look forward to more content!

@Fusionaire 4 ай бұрын

Before the cameras got reveal, here is the how I liked the cameras: C>D>B>A .. A seemed to struggle a lot in low light.

@ejwatts25 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video and effort you put in to making this Andrew, not always the sexiest of subjects and easy way to rile some Fuji users ;) . As others have stated, I'm seeing marginal differences mostly but one thing that immediately stood out and made me think that C and D were X-Trans sensors was the smearing in the greens of the foliage from the first shots, compared with the Bayer sensors which appeared to have more tonal and detail variation. To a less noticable degree, for me, the whites of the eyes also tended towards skin tones a little on the X-Trans sensors, I think :) . Overall though, nothing that would make me change system or use less capable camera bodies, I still love my X-T3 and all the previous iterations but I must admit when I bought my X-Pro1 back in 2013, I did so partly because of the whole filter array thing and the idea of doing away with the need for an anti-aliasing filter... Actually, I think that the X-Pro 1 sensor, although far from perfect, did not suffer from some of the pitfalls of later X-Trans sensors (whites of teeth and eyes smearing). Looking forward to the follow-up video and your thoughts.

@alnordgren 3 жыл бұрын

I had a strong preference for C, followed by D. The least preference for A, followed by B. I shoot with X100V and X-T2. Interesting how that all lined up. Thanks for the blind test.

@detectivejonesw 3 жыл бұрын

What I learnt from this is that you can take great images with any half decent camera, it's your skill as a photographer that matters

@user-so8qg8ys5b 4 жыл бұрын

I was right when I suggested that C and D is an X-Trans sensor. These shots show noticeably less noise (especially on the black doors). In the photo with the dog, the picture on them was a little colder than A and B. But in the very first photo, for some time I liked A and B more because of the pale sky. Also, A and B are subtly detailed in a photograph with a fabric. But this is the only case when they have shown themselves better, in my opinion.

@akhyarrayhka4048 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah a sleepy music while observing these images what a great combo

@jasonandrews7355 4 жыл бұрын

They look very nearly identical to me. Not really different enough to be a major deciding factor when buying a new camera, at least for me. That said, C and D look a tiny bit more contrasty than A and B. But even that could just be in my head. I'm sure there would be more noticable differences if I looked at the files outside of KZfaq, though. Great video!

@RandyPollock 4 жыл бұрын

My picks were always C and D, but then my experience with Fuji cameras is limited to X-T2 and X-T3 cameras, but the jpegs are all wonderful and one of my goals this year is to be able to shoot useable jpegs SOOC with some Fuji recipes.

@MsGrinnie 3 жыл бұрын

B stood out for me in most of the images..going to go see which one it was now ! ..as I have not 🙈

@enriquep2677 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Andrew for this video. I found the T100 images more appealing, which makes me think about how marketing works. I guess I'm a Bayer guy. Great job.

@valhala73 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! I was surprised about the performance of the A, B, D cameras compared to the C ( jpg blind test) I founded the performance of the C a bit worst in some samples. The nicest was the XT20 in my opinion... Some of the shots of the XT3, the eyes weren't sharp enough. Maybe is my phone!!!! Nice video, thank you

@titasghosh638 4 жыл бұрын

it seemed i prefer the xtrans sensor ones. I just ordered my first fujifilm the xt-30 with the 35mm f/2. Hope i will love the camera.

@japamax 4 жыл бұрын

Great Job. I only saw that A&B and C&D had the same sensor. Blue is more blue on Bayer and green is more green on X-Trans. The microcontrast on C seems better than D for the first photo. For the swimming pool photo, the legs are white for A&B and C seems lighter than D. I have a Fujifilm bayer with Fujifilm lenses and manual lenses. I am sometimes a little frustrated (no EVF, autofocus). But with this test, the best solution for me may be a new Fuji lens and not a new Fuji camera.

@MrTeebaum 4 жыл бұрын

thanks for your she insightful video. the pictures show what i can confirm based on my experiences with (x-trans) x100v, xt-30, x-t20, x-h1, (bayer) xf10 & x-3a. the bayer images have a slightly lower dynamic range and a slightly higher background noise, but this is not necessarily related to x-trans vs bayer, but simply to the sensors used. most striking is the quality of the noise, which is clearly more unpleasant with the bayer sensors and above all has more color noise. the noise of the x-trans, on the other hand, seems almost like the grain of analog films. when reworking from raw, the differences become more apparent, especially when increasing the lows. i can also achieve more "real" sharpness, the bayer-jpegs are sharpened more and can hide the differences. images from x-trans on also react a bit more finely to color adjustments and looks just more "analog" in b/w. furthermore, x-trans images generally have more "pop" (dog picture is a good example). there is hardly any difference between generation 3 and 4 of x-trans, but the x100v seems to me to be a tick better than the generation x-t3(0), maybe it's because of the interplay between objective/sensor/processor.

@alexfrederickson1540 4 жыл бұрын

Ok without knowing which is which I’m going to stick my neck out and say A and B are Bayer and C and D Xtrans. Better colours and better handling of dynamic range but I was a bit taken aback at the RAWs of the low light pool shots. The jpegs were better. Ok, now to go back and watch the last minute. Thanks for doing this, Andrew 😁🤩📷

@problemat1que 4 жыл бұрын

Makes you appreciate the in-camera processing, doesn't it?

@willerjose7641 5 ай бұрын

I liked "C". I was able to differentiate that A and B were BAYER and C and D XTRANS. Great test. (Sorry if my English is not correct.)

@yetanotherbassdude 3 жыл бұрын

I chose a lot of A and C, with D being dead last in all but one test. I just bought a used X-T20 about two weeks ago. 😢 That said, I was just going on gut reactions to the JPEGs as I'm fairly inexperienced as a photographer, and I do wonder if I was picking brighter vibrant images rather than necessarily the better ones. The Bayer sensors generally produced images with more brightness in the JPEGs, with things like sky blues appearing lighter and darker areas being a little less dark, and I do think that could be a factor for me. In audio production (something I'm much more familiar with) it's pretty well recognised that making something louder will make it sound better in psychoacoustic terms, so for any kind of comparisons between different processing or plugins you need to be super careful when A/B'ing stuff to make sure your overall levels stay the same. If you don't, the louder one will almost always win in any subjective test, regardless of almost anything else. I wonder if there's a similar effect in photography with regards to brightness? I know it's kind of a trope of "bad" photography for people to overprocess the dynamic range and make everything unnaturally contrasty, vibrant or saturated, because doing all that does make your images stand out, even if it doesn't make them better!

@Johnny847 3 ай бұрын

I definitely picked C & D as more to my liking. That they were X-trans, wasn't surprising to me. I have an XT-10 and an XT-4. I think the best thing about Fujifilm is their colors. The lightness of APS-c equipment and Fujifilm colors were the deal maker for me. Never thought about sensor type as I just really considered cameras that were X-trans sensors.

@julienajarry 4 жыл бұрын

love your videos. pumped on an x100v coming in today. If I may, work your EQ a bit to clean up the high frequency buzz you have going on in this voice over. I hope that helps.

@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын

The high frequency buzz has been identified (it was a combination of an extension cable for the mic and a power source nearby)

@stephenleach3110 4 жыл бұрын

My choices were B, C, B, A, D, C which basically means I could not tell the difference between them. Even after Andrew told us that A and B were the Bayer I still can't see a difference. I'm looking forward to part 2 to fins out what I missed.

@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын

:) It used to be a lot more apparent with older technology sensors. These days, it matters a lot less and it's MUCH harder to see the difference.

@jmtennapel 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this, very helpful. It seems Fujifilm has tweaked their jpeg engine a lot, the differences in the RAW files where a much better guide to see what is what. Interesting enough, there is quite a difference between the x-trans generations and not just resolution. That said, pixel peeping is all nice and that, but you should evaluate the look of photo’s from the right viewing distance. And if you do that, and evaluate what you get, you cannot go wrong with any of the cameras. But I found out that I prefer the x-trans images at normal viewing distance.

@Malcolmqp 4 жыл бұрын

I liked B usually but then I’ve got an X-A5 as a ‘snapshot’ camera! Couldn’t decide between C & D., A was my least favourite. I’ve just got my X-T4 which seems sharper and more detailed than the X-T2 so I might run a similar test myself before I sell the X-T2.

@jakeduggan3854 4 жыл бұрын

No surprise really, I own cameras with both types of sensors. For me the grain rendering is the give away. I'm not a pixel peeper and I found all the images to look quite nice. There is a reason why Fuji put X-Trans in their pro cameras. End of the day a bloody good photo is a bloody good photo. I've never had anyone come to my home, look at my framed photos, pull out a magnifying glass and say "you used a bayer sensor in this one, such a shame". In my opinion the X-Trans does a slightly better job but it's not leaps and bounds in front of the bayer. Good glass and good composition is the winner.

@ericrjennings 4 жыл бұрын

Colors had a bit more life in C/D but A/B seemed slightly sharper

@petouser 3 жыл бұрын

A/B had also more halo artifacts, so I wonder if it just was due to internal processing (sharpening)

@bloomylicious 4 жыл бұрын

Some people seem to have nuanced reasons they think one is better than the other, and I'm just sitting here having pretty much no clue, just thinking they all look great and I'd be happy to use any of these, maybe I'm a philistine!

@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын

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@mikeburns1725 4 жыл бұрын

Some, I liked A the best and for others I picked C. I've got no idea what to look for other than what is pleasing to my eye. I like the A sample much better than the others for the low light pool pics. Thanks for doing this; I know it must have take quite some time to put together.

@adventsam1276 4 жыл бұрын

x-t200 is Fuji's latest bayer incarnation and a further step-up from the x-t100 and I'm surprised it wasn't used here for the test? There are some interesting tweaks in the x-t200, especially dr and color science. x-t100 actually had a reddish cast, this is gone and x-t200 is far more neutral. In my own testing against the x-t3, the x-t200 reliably had better eye/face detection, better detail and most interesting was the auto wb which was significantly more reliable indoor than the x-t3. The worms still plague xtrans though, even with the latest version of C1 and overall unless you are prepared to use the ed tool on every single xtrans file in Lr C1 is probably the best bet. In any event my x-t3 is gone and replaced with probably the best bang for buck right now anyone could care for, the x-t200.

@RichardStroffolino 4 жыл бұрын

Off the bat C and D treatment of the sky in the first image really grabbed me. But in the church shot I actually like A and B better, something about the more pastel sky works better. Those were the two where I had a really instant reaction to, the rest didn’t get an immediate reaction.

@Grant_Seymour_ 4 жыл бұрын

I was favoring C, D photos the most. Something about the blue tones and being a little less bright, or better with highlights than A, B.

@MegaShapin 8 ай бұрын

My pick was C and D while C was the top pick. Main reason is noise pattern, is c and d photos color noise was substantially present and color on the edges were def better on those two.

@brunooliv3ira63 4 жыл бұрын

Please make a video demonstrating how to edit portraits, they look so good!

@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. But I didn't edit these. They are straight out of camera.

@brunooliv3ira63 4 жыл бұрын

@@AndrewGoodCamera I know, but in other videos your portraits look so nice and I'm refering to these :)

@livinmediocre 4 жыл бұрын

genuinely going before you gave the answer, C was my preference every time. I'm guessing it was the XTrans-4 Sensor with the X-T3

@stevenhightop2518 4 жыл бұрын

I was looking at the eyelashes in the close-ups. A and B seemed more impressionistic, while C and D seemed to hold more true details. Based on that, I guessed A and B were the bayer and C and D were the X-Trans. That said, they all have the pleasing Fuji colours and I am sure when viewed as complete images they would all make great prints.

@timrpbrown 9 ай бұрын

I think D mostly, occasionally C and the odd B (in raw). Looking forward to big reveal: I have 2 fuji cameras (one with Bayer one X-trans).

@Leondrian 4 жыл бұрын

Before looking at the results it seems I vary in my preferred shots. For the Jpeg:s I favoured A, with a couple of hits on the other ones as well. I allowed myself with two choices per photo. Also saw that you put 2 D's in the overview shots in both photos 5 and 6. It correct in when you show the single photo. On the RAFs it were more of a tie between A and B. In photo 6 I didn't even pick a favourite. In photo 4 I choose C and D. Thanks for making these tests. Sincerely Robert

@Leondrian 4 жыл бұрын

I was surprised I liked the Bayer more, because I thought my Canon gear didn't look good. Maybe it all has to do with that I'm a better photographer now and especially at editing now? I did prefer the X-Trans in low light though. Haven't been caught up in the online drama about the sensors, but it was a good lesson for me. I enjoy the Fujifilm experience though, so I just have to adjust to the new knowledge you gave me. Thanks again. /Robert

@bardofhighrenown Жыл бұрын

I didn't expect to be able to actually notice any real differences I thought for sure that people were exaggerating the differences between the two. But I got the feeling that A/B were one sensor and C/D were the other, while skipping the pixel peeping sections because I wanted to judge the image as a whole and I definitely preferred the A/B type sensors in both raw and JPG about equally split. I really preferred the lower contrast in A/B along with the slightly warmer cast the images had. The colors also seemed to be closer in brightness as if the saturation was leveled out on A/B. Edit: lmao, well I guess it's a good thing I'm not using an xtrans sensor as my main camera anymore

@WhiteWulfe 4 жыл бұрын

A and C were the ones I liked the most, but I definitely liked the orange that came out of C.... However, I will say this: I'd be happy with the output of any of those, even if the unprocessed raw file on the A has more... distracting? noise than C's. I pretty much never zoom in that much on an image though. As for the reveal, huh. Interesting, I like one of the inexpensive ones almost as much as the most expensive one in the comparison.

@1972Russianwolf 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see what the differences are in Astrophotography. From my understanding, the Bayer filters will have a much more pronounced green tint while the colors from the X-Trans sensors are more true.

@Infragelb 4 жыл бұрын

C and D blow the first two out of the water concerning smooth grain and detail, hope to see my x-trans in there ^^

@emanuelsanchez3762 4 жыл бұрын

Overall C was my favorite, especially in the first picture and in the portraits. But sometimes I liked B better.

@pedrination 3 жыл бұрын

same here

@BriteTap 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comparisons. I liked x-trans for some photos and bayer for others. Bottom line for me ... not enough difference for me to care what sensor Fuji uses.

@ImAwesomeAli 4 жыл бұрын

Hard to tell a difference but I guess when pixel peeping C and D looked slightly better to my eye with C maybe edging out D ever so slightly. C and D seemed to have less color noise and perhaps slightly cleaner details and noticeably better highlight retention. I would be hard-pressed to say there is enough of a difference to influence a purchasing decision however, I think ultimately it should come down to whichever camera makes you the happiest. I have owned the X100F, currently use the X100V, and the X-T4 is on the horizon for me.

@jeffersononetwo 4 жыл бұрын

Here are the number of shots I picked: X-A5 = 3 ... X-T100 = 1 ... X-T3 = 1 ... X-T20 = 0. My highest count was a Bayer CMOS X-A5. I would have generally picked the X-T20 or X-T3, so this was interesting. I own the new X-T30 (X-TRANS 4) & the XF-10 (Bayer) and love them both, though Lightroom does give problems if using the default sharpness so I turn that down. Awesome tests!

@LODGEYISBORED 4 жыл бұрын

I knew from the first set of photos based on the colors alone that c and d were shot with an x-tran camera.

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy 4 жыл бұрын

I preferred C & D. It was a surprise though, I thought A & B were X-Trans sensors on account of the wormy look when zoomed in. I'm happy that I own an X-T3 now, it's less wormy than I thought. I always thought I'd prefer a bayer sensor, but still like the camera. If I learned one thing from this test though, it's that the sensor type seems to have very little to do with the success of the photo, since all photos were publishable.

@AndrewGoodCamera 4 жыл бұрын

It's only "wormy" in Lightroom.

@nateeames6826 4 жыл бұрын

The real takeaway for me was that the type of sensor doesn’t make much of a difference. I did prefer the X-Trans sensors overall. But nothing in the Bayer sensor images would stop someone from creating the photo they want. It really is just nitpicking.

@jschu27 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@omar260271 4 жыл бұрын

For JPEGs was between B and C. For RAWs D was the clear winner. Thanks for such useful comparison

@JasondePlater 4 жыл бұрын

I judged them all on the iPhone 11 Pro which is sharp and detailed and I wanted to test it on an Instagram size screen. I mostly choose D but sometimes C. Surprised!