Xbox Series X Backwards Compatibility Tested - And The Performance Is Extreme

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The analysis you've been waiting for! Rich goes hands-on with Xbox Series X and puts its backwards compatibility capabilities to the most extreme tests possible. How much more graphics power does the compatibility mode deliver? Can it deliver 60fps on some of the most challenging Xbox One X games we've looked at over the years? The answers may surprise you.
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@sadstormtrooper 3 жыл бұрын

IGN uploads Gamespot uploads Me: Nah, I think I'll wait for the actual expert's video

@Nedry92 3 жыл бұрын

indeed

@SuperLordPedro 3 жыл бұрын

Ye they just had look how fast it boots to a game. Nothing even close to this kind of professional analysis.

@santhoshsridhar5887 3 жыл бұрын

df has fucked up sometimes, like saying that the series x is as powerful as a 2080 super by playing an unoptimized mess for nvidia gpus like gears 5. still, i do respect them a lot and they are the best channel for anything related to game graphics and performance analysis.

@MrRaitzi 3 жыл бұрын

Most have just uneducated fools running youtube channel. This guy can write a scientific article on this stuff and get it accepted to Nature magazine.

@robertt9342 3 жыл бұрын

@santhosh sridhar . Definitely reaching, but it's not unreasonable to try and ballpark performance.

@yambu007 3 жыл бұрын

Let's put it this way: There's no other youtube channel to watch about it like this

@daveys_gaming_corner 3 жыл бұрын

yambu007 uraverageconsumer does an excellent job

@snakebebop 3 жыл бұрын

NX gamer does a better job than "muh bad lighting" for Halo Infinite

@yambu007 3 жыл бұрын

@@snakebebop yet here we are...

@mikemuponda1781 3 жыл бұрын

Faxxxxxxxxxxx

@deadheads1352 3 жыл бұрын

Gamer's Nexus, Hardware Unboxed are both less biased and more accurate than DF.

@Republic3D 3 жыл бұрын

Of course backwards compatibility is important. It's like if you buy a new PC, and then only being able to play new games going forward. That's ridiculus.

@tcbvgames 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, many (if not most) gamers ignore anything that's not New and Shiny. So you get console gamers who won't play anything that isn't new or remastered from their childhood, and PC gamers who won't play any games that aren't live services, AAA tentpoles, or spectacles.

@dr.doctor4878 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately some PS fanboys believe that Backward Compatibility is a bad thing.

@santhoshsridhar5887 3 жыл бұрын

@@tcbvgames Hey, I'm still playing fallout New Vegas and Halo firefight on my PC.

@tcbvgames 3 жыл бұрын

@@dr.doctor4878 PS3 and PS2 were backwards compatible, tho!

@WaifuSlayer 3 жыл бұрын

Wait until he hear about the PC2

@ninjamurai 3 жыл бұрын

Never had an xbox before, but i think ill buy one this time.

@sean7332 3 жыл бұрын

DO IT

@avenged06x 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😅

@TK-sh4ot 3 жыл бұрын

Do it game pass and their exclusive lineup is insane this time.

@BrucyJuicy 3 жыл бұрын

I can’t switch to the Xbox because of the ps 5 exclusives, the last of us, horizon, uncharted

@thecollinzboy 3 жыл бұрын

Zazaguven21 uncharted is garbage maybe if you said ratchet and clank or little big planet then I’d agree with you

@swiftyunknown 3 жыл бұрын

It's more impressive knowing that these games aren't even optimized for next-gen.

@CourtCjbLand 3 жыл бұрын

Seeing GTA 4 running at 60fps blew me away, I have to replay that game now.

@brandommartinez3572 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah pretty mind blowing. Hyped for the future of xbox

@Uni0nDirect0r 3 жыл бұрын

How is this impressive? What else did you expect? It's 1080p in games released years ago. If anything, this only shows how badly underpowered Xbox One X is.

@smokegames1179 3 жыл бұрын

And so are PC games across varieties of gpus and cpus

@John8Ge 3 жыл бұрын

@@CourtCjbLand I wish it got a resolution boost like rdr up to 4k

@TheAlienGangster 3 жыл бұрын

At least we’ll potentially have 60fps patches for Bethesda games now that they’re an in-house studio. Hopefully they will make it a free upgrade like most Xbox first party upgrades. As somebody who had Fallout 4 on One X, we need this.

@KrzysztofBob 3 жыл бұрын

Hallelujah

@Ciubowski 3 жыл бұрын

But will we have more bugs? Now THAT's the real question. ain't no real Bethesda game without bugs you know.

@TheAlienGangster 3 жыл бұрын

MichaelZu it has been proven that frame rate can bug their games. Just look at how the physics broke when you went above 60fps in their games.

@nstarwetpanties5046 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheAlienGangster Yep frame rate caused bobby pins to weigh more 10kg....😐

@NonsensicalSpudz 3 жыл бұрын

I think there are more issues than 60fps with bethesda games

@motorcity429 3 жыл бұрын

Phil Spencer saved xbox he did everything right I hope he spends the rest of his career as head of xbox

@christianbethel 3 жыл бұрын

Nope. You still have to pay money to play online.

@dannolest1409 3 жыл бұрын

Included in Game Pass so doesnt really matter

@christianbethel 3 жыл бұрын

@@xxminecrafthype443 They announced it a few weeks ago.

@christianbethel 3 жыл бұрын

@@dannolest1409 It matters for the people who can't afford Game Pass.

@xxminecrafthype443 3 жыл бұрын

Christian Bethel Who the fuck can’t afford game pass but can afford not only the series x, but several games that they’d like to play.

@samvimes9510 3 жыл бұрын

Backwards compatibility is exactly why I'm choosing Series X over the PS5. Sony's attitude toward backwards compatibility is downright insulting, they don't seem to care at all about preserving their older games or even letting users play them again. They'll offer a handful of old titles for $20 on the Playstation Store, but that's about it. And the lazy, halfassed job they did on the PS Classic really shows just how little they care about older games.

@IFibreOpticI 3 жыл бұрын

@RICKY oh my god go away with your archaic views and sony shilling. Don't put up with mediocrity when you could have thousands more games accessible to you if Sony actually wanted too...its also not just about you, what about younger generations just getting into games now? 10 year olds who were born just after Red Dead Redemption and just before Skyrim was about to release (sure skyrim has long outlived its welcome) but these are the types of games that released then, and many inaccessible still on PS4/5....but theres a whole generation of games before then that millions have never played yet! And Xbox are the only console at the precipice of that catalogue and preservation...

@orio_3 3 жыл бұрын

@RICKY that's a very shallow look at it. The point of being able to play new and old is so you can take your game library with out through the generations. Stop looking at backwards compatibility as a negative just because your preferred console can't do it.

@samvimes9510 3 жыл бұрын

@RICKY cope harder, Sony fanboy.

@samvimes9510 3 жыл бұрын

@RICKY I don't care about frame rates, I just want to be able to play my collection of games on one machine. But if you prefer having a giant stack of consoles and swapping between them, be my guest. I'm sure Sony appreciates your undying loyalty and will be more than happy to send you a paycheck.

@vv1475 3 жыл бұрын

Ya cuz xbox only have few good games😂 And games for ps5 Are always good and are exclusive

@halo3odst 3 жыл бұрын

"I know what you really want to see" HOW FAST IS MORROWIND'S FIRST LOADING SCREEN!?

@Kaezzey 3 жыл бұрын

DOES THE SERIES X ALSO GET REBOOTED DURING THIS TIME

@alexcunningham9012 3 жыл бұрын

I know you're joking but I'll give a real response anyway for people who are curious. From what other reviewers have been saying, the older the game is, the less demanding it is to load, the smaller the difference will be in load times. OG Xbox games are only seeing like 20-30% difference whereas newer more demanding games like RDR2 and Control are seeing 60-75% difference in load time reduction.

@Kaezzey 3 жыл бұрын

Alex Cunningham very interesting! Thank you for this info

@retronerdlife4292 3 жыл бұрын

If only that memory issue on morrowind could be fixed. Not about to invest 100+ hours on console version, just for the game to increase loading times, crash, and corrupt data.

@Alex_Logan22 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking Avengers, since its the most current/recent game with struggling performance.

@baseballadict54 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone else: 10 min video DF: amateurs Drops 26 min video

@derauserwahlte4867 3 жыл бұрын

343 likes dont destroy it guys!

@Deliveredmean42 3 жыл бұрын

@@derauserwahlte4867 Rip for that.

@roberts.3324 3 жыл бұрын

Its that long because its sponsored by Microsoft looks like they bought DF with Bethesda or they leak their ass to be bought .Most likely M$ has them in pocket already .

@baseballadict54 3 жыл бұрын

@@roberts.3324 wrong.

@NevrNewd 3 жыл бұрын

I understand very little of this, but I like 100% of it.

@stormichow5325 3 жыл бұрын

In short, Microsoft is bringing more games from previous generations to life on the Series X and improving how well they play.

@TwistedTB 3 жыл бұрын

I'm really hoping Microsoft continues the backwards compatibility program with the release of the new generation of consoles, and brings more original Xbox and 360 titles to the One and the new Series consoles. Still many great old titles that would be amazing to play on newer systems.

@JPwendi 3 жыл бұрын

They won't stop, it's too good.

@AndroidAntill 3 жыл бұрын

All you're games you can play right away!! Whoop. Can't wait for next generation.

@TwistedTB 3 жыл бұрын

Droid No, I have a huge collection of 360 games, of which maybe a third I can play on my One. That is why I say I hope the BC program continues and they continue to add older titles to the roster of playable titles on newer hardware. Microsoft previously stated they were putting the backwards compatibility program on pause while the focused on the rollout of the new generation. Well the new generation is releasing soon and I am waiting for an announcement from Microsoft that the backwards compatibility program will resume.

@AndroidAntill 3 жыл бұрын

@@TwistedTB they probably can only do so much. Probably due to the licensing issues and how old a game is.

@TwistedTB 3 жыл бұрын

Droid Yeah i understand that but I am still hoping they will do more. They only did 31 original Xbox games for one thing. I will continue to hope until I hear an official statement from Microsoft about it one way or another.

@SineCordis 3 жыл бұрын

The release version of AC Unity with an unlocked framerate would be a great CPU test, that dropped to like 20fps on Xbox One.

@CC-gt3ro 3 жыл бұрын

PrezidentTrump i tried in 4k with my ryzen 1800x 16GB 1080ti and i didn’t get a very good framerate. I didn’t look how much exactly but it was slow but usable. I still have access to the game i can test it more precisely.

@Keivz 3 жыл бұрын

C C I’ve got it on a system with a gtx 1080 and i7 3770k on a 1440p monitor. Will test it tonight. I doubt his claims are valid myself.

@quaternio 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Excellent suggestion.

@TheSidaster 3 жыл бұрын

Just ran it on a 3600X+2070 at 1440p. 50-70 with msaa and 70-90 with fxaa with everything else set to ultra.

@christianjacobson4560 3 жыл бұрын

20fps was probably just poor optimization. You can get a very demanding game to run on poor hardware with good optimization, just look at the minimum requirements for cyberpunk 2077.

@derekheld1427 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone else: Here's everything Microsoft already showed off about storage and quick resume, repackaged. Digital Foundry: We know you care about playing games so here's a detailed analysis of performance differences when playing games. This is why we love the channel!

@grantgianneschi9492 3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly! While watching every other video, I'm thinking "Okay it's nice to have this stuff independently verified by non-xbox people, but you're not telling me anything I didn't already know." For such a tech centric medium, all these gaming sites and youtubers seem to have little, to no, tech expertise. Digital Foundry are the only ones giving real insight into what this stuff can do.

@FarmYardGaming 3 жыл бұрын

Joined for the tech specs simplified to a level an idiot can understand, and from there it's one of my favourite tech channels

@MrHuck 3 жыл бұрын

Derek Held How will Crapgamer spin this in his clickbait? “ Sony proves Digital Foundry assessment of Xbox makes it inferior to PS5. Microsoft is desperate”.

@ionseven 3 жыл бұрын

This is a marketing channel. You're suppose to be seduced.

@thischannelhasaclevername5481 3 жыл бұрын

Also they didn't mind spending more time on their video even if that meant it appeared later than the other channels. Respect

@StarsAndSticks 3 жыл бұрын

The series X is a love letter to game legacy and heritage.

@ZombieZifiction 3 жыл бұрын

game legacy goes way farther back from last gen smh, you're an idiot

@StarsAndSticks 3 жыл бұрын

@@ZombieZifiction It supports all the way back to OG Xbox and you also have to include 360 back compatible classics like Ikaruga, Daytona USA, etc. It's not a MAME emulator but it's pretty impressive for a modern console. You can go ahead and fuck off.

@mmm.3839 3 жыл бұрын

@@ZombieZifiction why did that offend you?

@ZombieZifiction 3 жыл бұрын

@@StarsAndSticks xbox has no legacy whatsoever except halo. it's backwards compatible because it lacks new games. not by choice

@Mustafa_9628 3 жыл бұрын

Im sold Going green next gen

@PoopyDoopyFloop 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome

@stephanhugo4185 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome!🎉🎉🥳🙂I hope you enjoy Xbox!!!

@stheticgod7679 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that the embargo has been lifted a month and a half before the console is actually released tells you just how confident Microsoft is with the Series X. Cant even make a simple post without idiotic fanboys constantly arguing over pieces of hardware.

@Theoldman27 3 жыл бұрын

Should we ignore the fact that they haven't shown a single game running on the Series X? That doesn't scream confidence to me.

@stheticgod7679 3 жыл бұрын

@@Theoldman27 it's not like they wont soon Microsoft has been very forthcoming with the series x. The amount of things that have shown off since they announced it at the game awards last year has been extremely refreshing especially compared to Sony who seems to be doing everything possible to keep things a secret.

@autuhviewts3217 3 жыл бұрын

Confident in playing games from four years ago, zero confidence in games in the present because they have none. Xbox as a brand is in shambles. Sony will DOMINATE once again.

@lmarcos21 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It feels like Microsoft is more confident with it's hardware and Sony with its software

@Theoldman27 3 жыл бұрын

@@stheticgod7679 You're saying they will soon but then accuse Sony of keeping things secret. We've seen PS5 games running on the PS5. So what are Sony keeping secret? Are you saying this because they didn't give Digital Foundry a PS5 at the exact same time that Microsoft gave them the Series X?

@jenesuispasbavard 3 жыл бұрын

And all this is with literally zero Series X-specific code on any of the backwards compatible games. So presumably old games specifically enhanced for the new consoles will be even more performant. Pretty impressive.

@TheOfficialChannelOfChannels 3 жыл бұрын

But what switch can they flip that would just make games jumping down to 56fps stay at a stable 60fps? Replacing the ingame textures with lower ones or spreading the work load on the CPU differntly?

@_Schwartz 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheOfficialChannelOfChannels Microsoft developed specific tools(software) for back compat games to do just that. They have been working on this tech for years. Unlocked frames,higher 4k resolution, textures, auto HDR etc.

@stefans4562 3 жыл бұрын

Backwards compatible games do not utilize the new architectural features (that come with the zen 2 cores/ modern gpu and velocity architecture). If a developer were to adjust theor code to take advantage of these, the performance increase would be a lot higher than 100%.

@TerraWare 3 жыл бұрын

@@_Schwartz It kind of depends. Obviously we don't know the specifics but games that have locked fps like the some shown in this video cannot be boosted in fps unless the developer releases a patch to unlock it. If the fps is unlocked or capped at 60 more powerful hardware should allow it to run smoother. This common practice in PC and I'm glad that consoles are becoming more like PC in this aspect.

@thomassmith4999 3 жыл бұрын

It's going to be so much more impressive to see the PS5 do all this 3 times faster. Can't wait for next gen

@matteodevellis6266 3 жыл бұрын

What Microsoft is doing here is making sure backwards compatibility is just a given from now on and not only that but also making sure older games run better and better on newer and newer platforms. Just like on PC. Bravo Microsoft I absolutely love this.

@sevenkaylive 3 жыл бұрын

GTA4, the most horribly optimized game I've ever played, runs at 60 fps on Series X? Now that's really something.

@mayman4255 3 жыл бұрын

Without any optimization!

@sevenkaylive 3 жыл бұрын

@@mayman4255 my pc still can't go above 40 fps on gta4

@alinepiroutek8932 3 жыл бұрын

At this rate even Mighty No. 9 with its crazy bad optimization would be 60fps locked on Series X.

@bobby_c07 3 жыл бұрын

@@mayman4255 this is the key here too. any BC games that get Xbox's attention and optimized for the Series X are going to look and feel really great. exciting stuff.

@chrischupp9760 3 жыл бұрын

Graphics need upgraded

@gcrackerz 3 жыл бұрын

IGN and Gamespot’s laughable videos about this really emphasize how unqualified the “journalists” at those sites are and how truly professional DF is.

@robofish8771 3 жыл бұрын

The fact you get this level of improvement with NO RDNA2 architecture and ZERO OPTIMISATION, is pretty impressive.

@varadmane5550 3 жыл бұрын

I'm confused, doesn't xbox series x have rDNA 2? Or will it be enabled through firmware update later on?

@robofish8771 3 жыл бұрын

@@varadmane5550 it is RDNA 2. But the back compat doesnt take advantage of the new archictecture. Its just the power of the system that makes the back compat games run and look better.

@varadmane5550 3 жыл бұрын

@@robofish8771 oh, so rdna2 will only come into play with new games that can take advantage of that architecture. Cool, thanks!

@robofish8771 3 жыл бұрын

@@varadmane5550 👍

@mryellow6918 3 жыл бұрын

@@robofish8771 rdna is the name of the gpu. what do you mean it doesnt use it.

@L1VE3V1L 3 жыл бұрын

Totally going Xbox this gen. PS4 left me underwhelmed.

@spazz8682 3 жыл бұрын

Big LOL

@StanderdSolution 3 жыл бұрын

@@spazz8682 l

@birdymaniac 3 жыл бұрын

the ps5 controller seems to be awsome

@StanderdSolution 3 жыл бұрын

RIP

@legacyrxt7570 3 жыл бұрын

@@spazz8682 ok

@Cugastratos 3 жыл бұрын

Yes to back compat. I also have games I haven't finished or still like to play.

@Valhura77 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have actually put certain games aside to finish on XSX to take advantage of improved FPS and Load times.

@spitfire656 3 жыл бұрын

I think its a shame sony is not using this... I mean a potato pc can run an ps1 emulator(ps3 can) so why not add it...

@Shadowninja1200 3 жыл бұрын

Gonna upgrade my xbox one s to this thing. literally no reason not to with $35 a month. If only sony would have been working on a backward compatibility program for ps1 and ps2 games like microsoft have been doing for xbox and 360 games.

@cetech4535 3 жыл бұрын

Cugastratos , monster hunter world is one for me, the performance was a turn off on 1X but looking forward to playing it on Series X

@TeacherOfIsrael30 3 жыл бұрын

Any1 know if dying light will be bc?

@GameJunky513 3 жыл бұрын

As a PC guy I'm happy for the series X buyers here. Microsoft doing them a solid preserving games.

@RobotMasterSplash 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad they care about this stuff, preservation is critical and my OG Xbox disc drive burned out again...

@user-fm8xs3hr3w 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! That's what people seem to forget when backwards compatibility is mentioned: the preservation of games. It shows they intend to do right by future games (ie, always having a local downloadable option, enhancements, etc)

@mjc0961 3 жыл бұрын

As a PC guy who had no intention of buying a Series X because I don't need one for upcoming titles, this is how Microsoft manages to sell me one anyway. I don't need one for new games, but when the price is right, I'll pick one up to boost my old games.

@dr.chungusphd108 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Iron-Soul 3 жыл бұрын

I’m a PC guy too, and since I can’t get my hands on a 3080, I (luckily) preordered a Series X in the meantime. Now I can finally dust off my OG Xbox games in my basement.

@paragon722 3 жыл бұрын

This guy has a windows 10 default background. He is 100 percent more credible to me immediately before listening to anything.

@fynnv3284 3 жыл бұрын

Stop Crying

@Bazazooka 3 жыл бұрын

@@fynnv3284 ?

@terrain7879 3 жыл бұрын

@@fynnv3284 sir are you illiterate?

@SKITTLELA 3 жыл бұрын

Why

@paragon722 3 жыл бұрын

@@fynnv3284 ? Crying about what, I am not sure you read the above. I will assume you just misunderstood this as me attacking him instead of complimenting him.

@ferozahmed5846 3 жыл бұрын

Owned PS4 and played God of war 4, Last of US one time each and that was it. I really really missed playing Halo, Gears and other games online. Love playing games online with friends and family. Game pass is going to be icing on the cake 🎂.

@agungkurniawan4078 3 жыл бұрын

true bro. bored of those third-person interactive movie.

@zanfear 3 жыл бұрын

Loved God of War and The Last of Us. Gears of War is boring trash. I love playing Halo MCC on Steam though. Really brings back those epic memories playing with my Xbox friends.

@Kylinho15 3 жыл бұрын

Same, TLOU 1/2 is my favourite single player game ever but God Of War got boring for me. Going back to Xbox in November!

@abovethelaw4417 3 жыл бұрын

Last of us is trash, lame RE, gears of war, splinter cell rip off. Babysitter of war is a rip off of AC origins and hellblade. Halo and gears are mediocre

@abovethelaw4417 3 жыл бұрын

@@zanfear Last of us and babysitter of war is also boring trash . Last of us has crappy gears of war gameplay , how can u hate gears but love lame of us? Very hypocritical

@ts-bu6sq 3 жыл бұрын

Backwards compatible hand movements @ locked 60. What a time to be alive.

@jerchongkong5387 3 жыл бұрын

hey, I understood that reference XD

@arthurcuesta6041 3 жыл бұрын

hold on to your series x

@shotty5 3 жыл бұрын

Waiting on the 120 update

@TheAlienGangster 3 жыл бұрын

He may be generations old, but his class is generations ahead

@alvxrooo 3 жыл бұрын

shotty5 I was expecting the next gen console to do 120 fps :( The series S can run 1440p 120 fps but they’ve showed nothing gameplay wise to prove it

@DuelingPeaks 3 жыл бұрын

It's insane how it's just doing this out of the box with no actual software optimisation.

@sircuddlesGHII 3 жыл бұрын

Brand new hardware can run 6 year old games well? INSANE.

@carck6442 3 жыл бұрын

Pestilence can you name any console besides the PS2 and Wii that could do the same? It’s not that common nor feasible, especially since we were used to architecture changes between generations

@FabricioGarcia232 3 жыл бұрын

@@sircuddlesGHII lol try to run Crysis on newer PC hardware. Most games released in 2019 run better than it.

@PrivatePreston 3 жыл бұрын

Pestilence your comment just shows how you’re completely ignorant about emulation.

@HaasTheFirst 3 жыл бұрын

Yea sure, its because they are basically PCs :D

@Elcapitaan5 Жыл бұрын

I’m going back to so many games and the quality of life improvements make it a great experience. I have no problem playing games as they were made,but if they can be improved then all the better.

@raheelvirk5333 3 жыл бұрын

Microsoft technology is insane even Sony is confused how did Microsoft manage to run decades old game with hi-res textures and frame rate without the devs even touching them lmao 😂

@gillesgila 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, so you are working for sony and you they are confused! Impressive

@cryptoshorts161 3 жыл бұрын

@@gillesgila "and you they" u arent very smart , doesnt u sonyer?

@GameslordXY 3 жыл бұрын

Hi res textures? Isn't "just" framerate improved?

@Osmani4you 3 жыл бұрын

@@GameslordXY idk lol all it is more horsepower so 4k variable stays at 4k and stays at 60 fps

@markoasdadriver6285 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think sony were ever confused, I think they've always looked forward and not backwards.

@marcoasalgado 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see an analysis of Quantum Break running on Series X.

@moeykaner1 3 жыл бұрын

Digital Foundry on Twitter: PSA: It's confirmed that while back-compat gets 12TF of compute power, this is in compatibility mode - you *aren't* seeing the architectural improvements of RDNA 2, including its IPC boost. Rather you're seeing what a 12TF GCN-based console with Zen 2 would've looked like...

@ThePoisonDwarf1 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed basically these results were with brute force only

@jovanrocksable 3 жыл бұрын

What does this mean in English

@shotty5 3 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait to see what it’ll look with the RDNA 2 feature set. Just a heads up to developers even if your games don’t run with everything maxed, still include those options because there will be an Xbox in the future that will max out your game and bring new life to an older title!

@rollcats1290 3 жыл бұрын

@@jovanrocksable games specifically built for Series X will perform better than what is shown here.

@bossmicky9256 3 жыл бұрын

jovan marinovic it means the gpu is the same as the xbox one x but more powerful, so from 6 to 12c w the cpu of the series x, zen2 is the series x cpu, so hes saying we pretty much saw a xbox one x double enhanced machine(cause the xbox one x is an enhanced system, the series x was an enhanced enhanced system ) , I hope that makes sense bro

@fwabble 3 жыл бұрын

The exact reason I am buying Series X is to play older games like Battlefield, Witcher 3 and game pass games at PROPER SOLID 60FPS. Not half ass crap with constant drops below 60 which I got with the X1X

@tezturkey6824 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly why I am buying it.

@fwabble 3 жыл бұрын

@@tezturkey6824 I think many are. SOLID 60FPS in 2020 should be BARE minimum. Nothing worse than advertising a game running at 60FPS then having it run at 40-50FPS 70% of the time.... DIABOLICAL in 2020.

@lulaputta 3 жыл бұрын

This should have been there in the PS5. Sony has miserably failed in Backwards Compatibility domain.

@Zoza15 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed, i wouldn't be surprised if they either remake or remaster their older games and resell them for 70 dollars.

@juanhuitron9799 3 жыл бұрын

Nova Verse Exactly. They’re already doing it with a remastered version of Spider-Man 😂

@dovahkiinkhajiitmaster6295 3 жыл бұрын

Trash PlayStation

@vasya1019 3 жыл бұрын

Sony literally can't do backwards compatibility tho, they used much different hardware in the ps3 and under so they would basically have to remake all of the old games.

@oreox1000 3 жыл бұрын

vasya perhaps with disk versions of games this is an issue, but what about the digital versions that are sold? I’m aware it will a lot of require work, but why not give people access to digital games that they own? Better yet give people the ability to access every game across the PS family of consoles? Imagine playing emulated versions of Vita or PSP games? Would be nice for consumers and would make Sony some extra money because I’d go back and buy all the games I always wanted.

@dynamicpenguin55 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not a console gamer but this is seriously cool to see, kudos to microsoft

@mayman4255 3 жыл бұрын

It's safe to say that xbox is literally a PC sidekick now lol

@SwissFenyx 3 жыл бұрын

Kudos? For a next gen console to run 5 year old games? 😂

@ReLapseJunkie 3 жыл бұрын

@@SwissFenyx this

@TheTennesseeFistMachine 3 жыл бұрын

@Let's Make the Holocaust Great Again! Yup, that's exactly why people spend 499 to strictly play older games. Dumbass.

@cosmocalypse3708 3 жыл бұрын

@@mayman4255 What do you mean? If anything Xbox is anything but a PC sidekick. If you have a modern PC you wouldn't need an Xbox at all. A sidekick would be a console with exclusives that you can't get on PC.

@AnalogFoundry 3 жыл бұрын

The only hands-on impression that matters!

@Taijifufu 3 жыл бұрын

The only hands -on impression- that matters!

@pastel_magi 3 жыл бұрын

@Will Riker That too!

@moisesrsh76 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@cr4zyw3ld3r 2 жыл бұрын

This is seriously like going back and playing your old collection with higher settings on a modern PC. Absolutely love the feature their 360 and OG Xbox emulation is astounding!

@MegaDrainProductions Жыл бұрын

I always hate people's arguments of because a game is old, you shouldn't play it anymore and isn't important. But those same people will watch old shows and movies and act like it isn't exactly the same thing.

@Sonnymac81 Жыл бұрын

Best comment. I'll play an OG NES game right now and have a blast.

@hurricane7727 Жыл бұрын

I still Play Space Invaders

@DigitalFoundry 3 жыл бұрын

This is indeed a 4K video put together to show 4K games running on 4K consoles. Let us pray to the KZfaq encoding gods that this video will eventually present at 4K (and the higher quality VP9 1080p60 encode would be nice too)...

@vincentfox4929 3 жыл бұрын

lool

@BasedGodOzzy 3 жыл бұрын

Thats youtube for you

@MarioGoatse 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all your hard work DF. You're a gift to us.

@Usrthsbcufeh 3 жыл бұрын

Guys I think you forgot to check the embargo, you can’t show the dashboard

@belland_dog8235 3 жыл бұрын

@Teddy Holiday You couldn't scream "I'm a fucking reddit virgin" harder than with that comment you just made

@Zoza15 3 жыл бұрын

Without even being optimized at all, which is quite impressive.

@ShadowMKII 3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly while watching this video. It'd be very interesting to know how some optimized games run after a few have released.

@T4Y70R 3 жыл бұрын

Can someone point out some differences in the split screens? I see the fps info, but how does that present as you're playing? They look identical to me.

@PurushNahiMahaPurush 3 жыл бұрын

@@T4Y70R less stutter and lag and smoother playing experience. You won't see it as a big deal on a video of course. But it makes a hell of a difference when actually playing. I personally turn down settings to hit stable 60fps on my PC because stutters are really annoying. This is magnified even more if you are playing in VR. Frame drops below 60 lead to motion sickness in VR due to that higher input latency and stutter.

@memebot6490 3 жыл бұрын

@@T4Y70R They generally just look and feel smoother

@Thornfrey 3 жыл бұрын

@@PurushNahiMahaPurush In VR depends how sensitive you are... for me its 80fps, drops below are a big no no. :D

@BeforeTheNoose 3 жыл бұрын

Sony have lost me to this. Looks awesome. And the way Sony treated content creators during tlou2 fiasco was the final nail in the coffin for me

@chapman2001 3 жыл бұрын

Was more naughty dog and not sony

@tiredoflife778 3 жыл бұрын

Have fun playing old games ps5 will have games everywhere Xbox wont

@theurbread 3 жыл бұрын

I wish people could all just get along with what they play. Why do you have to justify your $500 dollar piece of gaming hardware to other people who have something else?

@tylercook4845 3 жыл бұрын

@حمودي الملكي king shit 👑

@nephta99 3 жыл бұрын

@@tiredoflife778 this is why everyone hates ps fanboys lmao

@lloydpbabu 3 жыл бұрын

3 minutes into the video, I hit the subscribe button so hard. Your style is really genuine sir!

@BenConsolegamer 3 жыл бұрын

I honestly really like him. He's like the older more experienced doctor in the game industry.

@shazboz 3 жыл бұрын

@rogerm4a1 3 жыл бұрын

lmao most definitely!

@shazboz 3 жыл бұрын

@@pandapolygon ok

@MrStrangermoon 3 жыл бұрын

hes the man first saw eveything. like 1991 after burner 2. so def doctor. but a sega doctor not xbox doctor.

@SirBranDon24 3 жыл бұрын

The guy I go to for help with my calculus III

@robbhebert3288 3 жыл бұрын

The most impressive thing about this is that these performance boosts require NO PATCHES. This is all hardware level. The results on games that are patched or run off velocity will be even more incredible.

@FunKaYxxD1sCO 3 жыл бұрын

I just wonder if these Devs would even update those games for the new consoles though...

@rodzandz 3 жыл бұрын

Why would they require patches? It's the exact same architecture as the previous console. This should be like running an older game in a newer PC.

@bruno3030 3 жыл бұрын

@@PotatoeSnow pick up SSX3 in case you havent

@tmorelli1982 3 жыл бұрын

And the hardware sucks

@7PlayingWithFire7 3 жыл бұрын

@@rodzandz to optimize them, thats a thing

@drewedgeley2845 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou, what a great video and you are so easy to listen to. I am now for the first time truly excited about getting my series X when it is released! I look forward to more content from yourself as there's nothing better than listening to someone that speaks so well about the subject we want to know as much as possible about. I would love to know how you measured the frame-rates. I kinda now know why i was never amazed by my One X and am always drawn back to my 'power hungry' PC! Nice articulation man. I was very impressed by your video that i came across by pure accident... I have subscribed to your channel as you speak so understandably well and clear. Nice one man 👍👍🙂

@LeesChannel 3 жыл бұрын

Good choice! They use a custom method that's supposed to be pretty labor intensive to count the framerate.

@Isaw1117 3 жыл бұрын

So long story short I’ve always been a Nintendo guy. I’ve had al 3 companies consoles and handhelds over the years. Had a 360 but got RROD. Finally caved and got a One X for a ridiculously cheap price. With Gamepass I was in heaven. Series X looking like it will be bomb. And I got my Switch for exclusives. Can’t wait, this is impressive!

@yuhc77 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah agreed. I have 2 ps4 one is the ps4 pro and it doesn't look as good as my one X, and it's fast, smooth and quiet

@revenone1077 3 жыл бұрын

I think this might be the first time getting an Xbox, with the performance and game pass its a really good package.

@PoopyDoopyFloop 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome man, I hope to be playing Halo Infinite with you in the future!

@chaveztyndale8468 3 жыл бұрын

Paying off the Xbox over time gives you Game pass ultimate as well. You literally save money than if you bought the console outright.

@stephanhugo4185 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome🎉🥳🥳🙂I hope you enjoy Xbox. The value of the Game Pass is unreal!!!

@bharathipr5937 3 жыл бұрын

@Aaron Moore lol

@mystictr1265 3 жыл бұрын

Xbox is getting my support! Gamepass is just too good.

@victhebrickgaming2227 3 жыл бұрын

Remember these are games that aren’t tampered with by the original developers or the BackCompat team at Xbox this is strictly Series X doing the heavy lifting here, I truly expect the BackCompat team to start optimizing allot of Xbox One, Xbox360 and OG Xbox games soon enough and start getting 4K 60 or double the original targets like Rich was saying.

@snakebebop 3 жыл бұрын

Did you not watch the video? This is "tampered" by the bc team at Microsoft. God you're dumb.

@janevarez22 3 жыл бұрын

I so hope so!

@phutureproof 3 жыл бұрын

The good old alot, not seen one of those for a while.

@neonghost8608 3 жыл бұрын

Auggy he’s talking about 4K patches from the back compat team

@DerDudelino 3 жыл бұрын

Given their recent investment it would also make sense to put the Xbox expert team together with Bethesdas engineers to save something like Fallout 76. Which is a game that could still live up to its potential

@MrBirchieBirch 3 жыл бұрын

Back compat is a win all round for any console, imho. There are loads of games I'd like to revisit at higher resolutions and frame rates - the Project Gotham Racing series being top of my wishlist. At the end of the day, a great game is a great game, regardless of when it was made. The fact you can play these at higher resolutions and frame rates is the delicious icing on the cake.

@beschorner-creative 3 жыл бұрын

Great new content! Thanks a lot. Looking forward to more Series X content.

@poisonsnivy6439 3 жыл бұрын

GTA4 running at a full 60fps is all I needed to see

@fabwissler1245 3 жыл бұрын

Watch 5-6 year old PC videos in 4k. :D

@llJeezusll 3 жыл бұрын

Even on PC it struggles to stay above 60fps There's a couple mods you could install to help it run better but no matter how powerful your PC is it will still occasionally drop to the 50s

@zkdd23 3 жыл бұрын

It's 60 FPS, but the quality is not so great :D

@joshdobbins6612 3 жыл бұрын

@@llJeezusll i cant remember dropping to 50 fps once on my old rx 580, now my 3080 absolutely claps that game

@sean8102 3 жыл бұрын

@@llJeezusll I'm so glad Rockstar improved the optimization of their RAGE engine on PC massively with GTA V.

@plantagenetbloodline3584 3 жыл бұрын

There's still a lot of current gen games I haven't played and finished yet on the One X, can't wait to play and finish them on the Series X

@futvnyc 3 жыл бұрын

I'm going to be playing loads pf xbox360 and xbox one games on this. Titanfall 2 has a unlocked resolution. Star Wars fallen order at locked 60fps is going to,be awesome.

@sleasy01 3 жыл бұрын

@@futvnyc star wars..yesssss

@hrollins999 3 жыл бұрын

Same here! This news makes me happy I have a backlog.

@R6ex 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Lots of my unplayed 360 game discs will be played on the Series X. 😋

@addidaswguy 3 жыл бұрын

@@futvnyc omg Genius!

@Werkvuur 3 жыл бұрын

Always so exciting to get these DF videos close to the release of the new generation.

@xEndless_Gaming 3 жыл бұрын

Switching to xbox last year was my best decision ever, just kinda annoyed i didnt make the switch earlier.

@comedylongpantsgamer3608 3 жыл бұрын

Hey dude, should I get a series x or a ps5?

@xEndless_Gaming 3 жыл бұрын

Same bro حمودي الملكي

@monokumawithagun6030 3 жыл бұрын

Dio Brando I’d say if you’re into backwards compatibly and like more non-exclusive games then get a Series X. If you like exclusives then get a PS5

@94fleetwood94 3 жыл бұрын

@@monokumawithagun6030 Exclusives is opinionated. Personally I only like Horizon and God of War. Rest are not interesting on Playstation. Besides Sony is supporting the PS4 for the next 3-4 years. Play couple of the exclusives on PS4 and save cash.

@monokumawithagun6030 3 жыл бұрын

P8Z77VLK Usually Sony has an exclusive for nearly every type of game. Spider-Man is an open world action game. God of War is a story focused RPG (or a total fighting gore fest depending on the ones you get)

@raveomelette 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how does *L I C H D O M: B A T T L E M A G E* perform on Series X.

@maybemaybenot8112 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty amazing now, instead of 9fps we get the blistering speed of 12fps.

@rare6499 3 жыл бұрын

Lmao - this is the question I need answering before I give them my cold hard cash

@rare6499 3 жыл бұрын

....I mean, sign up to a 24 month finance agreement

@Notsram77 3 жыл бұрын

Asking the real questions.

@Zrorro 3 жыл бұрын

I think Lichdom battle mage had a patch added to it on Xbox to lock it at 30 FPS. I'm more curious to see it on the PlayStation 5, since the PS4 version never had a cap on frame rate put on it.

@HitmanSC2 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that even with the compatibility mode where the new console is performance capped it still delivers awesome performance is really hype.

@GraveUypo 3 жыл бұрын

it was disappoint to me, honestly. 30% below what i expected of it.

@HitmanSC2 3 жыл бұрын

@@GraveUypo Fair enough, I hear you. It's just the limitations of it running in compatibility mode. Doesn't fully utilize the new architecture. The series x games will tho!

@jpdcmo 3 жыл бұрын

0:22 Darth Sidious - Fire at will commander !

@delivrex 3 жыл бұрын

Almost 1 million subs.. congrats in advance DF

@Kroganmerc 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that you guys aren't over a million yet is a crime.

@SpiritofFireMrVader 3 жыл бұрын

They are approaching the milestone, slowly but surely.

@CocoChris13 3 жыл бұрын

He is the only one worth listening to...all the others are sony dickriders

@ColonelRoge 3 жыл бұрын

CocoChris13 grow up

@xb0xguru 3 жыл бұрын

Subbed. Followed DF for the longest time and didn't realise how close they were!

@ShubhamMishrabro 3 жыл бұрын

These type of channel don't have subs cause many are not interested in model or how hardware works but in last 1 and 2 years people interest in this has increased that's why DF is growing at good rate. Similar thing for speedruning

@Kryptik0III 3 жыл бұрын

I think most of the heavy lifting in backwards compatibility games will be done by the CPU. Those Jaguar CPU's held back performance so many times. Glad we're getting 3GHz+ AMD Zen 2 CPU's.

@OutOfRangeDE 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunatyl tho the tiny cache holds back the mobile variant quiet a bit.

@dirtkiller23 3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOfRangeDE nah it's fine Considering that jaguar had no l3 cache

@Tx_zx 3 жыл бұрын

8 core AMD Zen 2 CPU's with 8mb l3 cache. Ryzen 3600 and 3300x will give better perfomance than ps5 and xsx cpu's.

@le4-677 3 жыл бұрын

well yeah. The One X was bottlenecked by the CPU which is why most games didn't run over 30, despite it having a more powerful CPU than the PS4

@codethis2875 3 жыл бұрын

@@OutOfRangeDE If the code can utilize multiple threads, the raw 16 threads will still provide a massive boost.

@ChrisWTube 3 жыл бұрын

Please test Evil Within 2 (unlocked), Jedi Fallen Order (unlocked), Witcher 3 (unlocked), Wolfenstein The New Colossus (4K), AC Unity (unpatched), Control, Resident Evil 3 (unpatched), Halo CE from MCC (with anniversary graphics enabled), Crysis Remastered (unlocked), Saints Row The Third Remastered (unlocked), Modern Warfare’s Warzone, Avengers (unlocked) and obviously Just Cause 3.

@sika9577 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for hte great breakdown!

@ThePoisonDwarf1 3 жыл бұрын

Considering this is literally just with brute force not actually optimising a game for the hardware that's pretty impressive.

@randyfox364 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@machinefannatic99 3 жыл бұрын

The optimised quick resume Is 11 seconds so nope I don't think it's no loading screens! Xbox simply hijacked what Sony and ps5 where supposed to say!

@ADRzone 3 жыл бұрын

PC is all about brute force on majority if not almost all games... 🤔 This is why consoles can't compare to PC, because they do get optimized for consoles... If you listen "carefully" to Richard, he says "that the games he is showing are games" 'kind of allowed to be shown by Microsoft'... So yep, they are optimized to be played on the Xseries, this is also confirmed by the biggest Xbox fanboy Evan's Channel... He says in his Xseries video that "not all games will be playable"... Again that hints that the games being shown around "had been optimized to be played on Xseries"...

@343ishill 3 жыл бұрын

@@ADRzone Ofc PC has to brute force games through bottlenecks that's why they have better hardware. Games are optimized for console, because they have a custom architecture to take advantage of. Richard was speaking of backwards compatibility not full architecture optimization. When games are optimized to take full advantage of the Ps5/Xbox architecture we can see it run bettter than similarly specced PCs. PCs worker harder while Consoles work more efficiently.

@ADRzone 3 жыл бұрын

@@343ishill I know all that buddy... But the game net coding is made, they use that to allow the hardware to play the game (hence optimized to be able to play)... You can't just download or play whatever you want because it can break and brick your console, so the optimization comes into play, if not you will be able to play ALL games... Now those games were optimized for old hardware, and I get it, but they have also been optimized to run on this new hardware, any other changes, changes the netcoding completely making the game "then" unplayable on Xone... But they are as optimized as they will be... A game crashes on PC, PC just keeps on going, a game bricks your console it can be "bye bye" for the console...

@Pro720HyperMaster720 3 жыл бұрын

There is tons of people, especially young people that haven’t played a lot of games that will be available in the back compatible catalogue specially a good opportunity for the Game Pass

@TerraWare 3 жыл бұрын

I commend Microsoft for dedicating resources to backwards compatibility because it is extremely important imo. I remember upgrading my PC and going back to games that were demanding on my old PC and playing them at higher fidelity graphics and frame rates it is a much better experience.

@neilsmith5883 3 жыл бұрын

The best games ever made are the games in the 360 list.

@ec5018 3 жыл бұрын

but younger ppl like newer stuff this is more for older ppl though.

@TerraWare 3 жыл бұрын

@@ec5018 LOL we're not talking about the Amiga. It's mainly Xbox One that they're focusing a lot of the resources, than 360 and than original Xbox which isn't that old. You could scoop up a bunch of good games for the Xbox One on the second hand market right now, they're dirt cheap and you can play them on your Series X. Between that and Game Pass there's tremendous value there.

@JamalBlakk 3 жыл бұрын

I'll never be completely satisfied until I can play "Jet Set Radio Future" again. Sega & Microsoft need to do something about that. On the real.

@bluesgaming5841 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that these games on One, 360 and OG can run much better on the Series X makes me very excited to play older games again for a much better experience. GTA4 was one of the very first games I played on 360, and just seeing it run 60 FPS on Series X with no problems whatsoever has gotten me very excited to pick that game back up as soon as I get a Series X !

@lockdowntechsource4489 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant breakdown as always!

@estignatic 3 жыл бұрын

At least we can finally enjoy GTA IV in 60 fps even if it's 12 years later.

@weierliu1360 3 жыл бұрын

For real not even my pc could pull that off

@RobotMasterSplash 3 жыл бұрын

I'm honestly shocked, I always assumed it just wasn't going to happen.

@leiflala 3 жыл бұрын

We all know that we wanna see the GTA5 load times haha

@ArthurM1863 3 жыл бұрын

Bro Im playing it at 4k 60fps locked ultra settings on a gtx 1070

@screwball992 3 жыл бұрын

@@ArthurM1863 can confirm runs like a champ on my PC with tonnes of mods installed.

@aganosxvii5079 3 жыл бұрын

Monster hunter world in resolution mode in 60 fps... Oh my God, a dream comes true. I love you Microsoft!

@Kougeru 3 жыл бұрын

Could do that now on PC

@jayasimhaarya 3 жыл бұрын

@@Kougeru no one asked

@TheAlienGangster 3 жыл бұрын

Kougeru Can’t we just enjoy that consoles are finally getting a jump after 7 years on Jaguar? A higher baseline spec is better for gaming.

@iFaFo_0 3 жыл бұрын

SPOILER: If its dipping below 60 in a cutscene it will dip way harder in gameplay. AND it did.. below 60 and it wasn't even in a fight. Elder dragon fights will dip HARD mark my words.

@aganosxvii5079 3 жыл бұрын

@@prezidenttrump5171 it's okay if you don't enjoy the game. For me and many others it is the best thing there is

@MiX-vv5id 3 жыл бұрын

Thx for review! Cool stuff!

@vadergb 3 жыл бұрын

Microsoft's backwards compatibility should be celebrated. Having most titles available from all it's generations is great, the elegance in the BC implementation by the BC is stunning.

@daviddamasceno6063 3 жыл бұрын

It is pretty damn impressive for a console. We're basically having 3 generations of games running at 60fps. This is glorious. This alone is enough reason to get this machine, and we haven't even seen it's final form yet!

@todd5687 3 жыл бұрын

if it was 120fps i would agree. 60fps is old news

@6ch6ris6 3 жыл бұрын

totally. i still have my original xbox here with like 30 games. best console ever IMO

@6ch6ris6 3 жыл бұрын

@@todd5687 you really dont need 120fps for most games. racing games and multiplayer fps? sure but most games are totally fine with solid 60fps

@jayasimhaarya 3 жыл бұрын

@@todd5687 you do realise Most people aim for 60fps?

@AchiragChiragg 3 жыл бұрын

@@todd5687 most old games physics will break at that frame rate so it doesn't even make sense

@stickmantheman 3 жыл бұрын

"It's locked and it's glorious."

@JagoTFC 3 жыл бұрын

Going above 60 breaks the game. Try playing Dark Souls at 144 fps and see for yourself.

@lamontehughes7318 3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@JagoTFC 3 жыл бұрын

@@wallacesousuke1433 every game with locked FPS is trash. Because fixed scan monitors and TVs are trash.

@hardkore360 3 жыл бұрын

@@JagoTFC locked FPS is trash? what crazy world are we living in?????

@JagoTFC 3 жыл бұрын

@@hardkore360 a post CRT world

@greengrugach1984 2 жыл бұрын

Literally got my hands on an SX last week, haven't touched my PS5 since.

@roguespartan2854 2 жыл бұрын

Bruh they don't sell it where I live, and there is no stocks online.

@TauroWW2 3 жыл бұрын

Would you be so kind to test Conan Exiles if you have the game, it suffers on the current console quiet a lot on loading and performance, would really like to understand if that game benefits the new hardware. Thanks !

@astralmaster 3 жыл бұрын

I haven’t played it, but I can assure it loads in less than 30 seconds and the frame rate might be more stable.

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 3 жыл бұрын

if it struggles to hit a stable 30 on last gen then it would definitely be cleared up

@DreBourbeau 3 жыл бұрын

GTA IV is finally 60fps on console, I never thought I'd live to see it

@sharpi2776 3 жыл бұрын

Yes me too brother! I was eager to play this Game once again and now im totaly sold

@briancorley1991 3 жыл бұрын

It ran at 60fps on the One X

@SotNist 3 жыл бұрын

It's actually on sale too. Think I'm gonna buy it. Haven't seen it since 2008 on PS3.

@masterrugg22 3 жыл бұрын

@@briancorley1991 no it was 30fps

@thewolfthi 3 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is tho, even a pc cant even get GTA IV to 60 fps, quite the feat i'd say!

@TypicallyUniqueOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

Backwards compatibility is extremely important for me. When you have a backlog of video games that you love as big as mine...hell yeah I want to play it upgraded. I don't want to have to plug in my 14+ year old Xbox 360 to play Ninja Garden 2.

@milesmulligan6515 3 жыл бұрын

I actually played four or five Xbox 360 games completely this year (including Fable) Couldn't have done that without my One X

@philrichjr 3 жыл бұрын

I'm there with you. I have a backlog of games from this video that I haven't even touched yet. It'll be nice to see them in great form by the time I upgrade to SeX

@ForeRunnerODST 3 жыл бұрын

This. My 360 is hooked up in the same room that my Xbox One is but I'd rather be able to play those games on Xbox One, have them all in one place, and be able to put away my 360 without worry.

@laurasfar18 3 жыл бұрын

Ninja Garden 2 sounds like a cool game to play while your ordered fries are being made 👍

@SkyGrinder2011 3 жыл бұрын

Ninja Gaiden 2 is amazing on the One X, can't wait to see it on Series X

@MrRegD 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the comparisons and exhaustive review, I’m not sure if I will be continuing with Xbox for this upcoming console upgrade, but getting this insight was helpful...thx

@flufflenuggit6499 3 жыл бұрын

I'm done with PlayStation. Its time that I made the switch to a more consumer friendly console (for the time being)

@igorthelight 3 жыл бұрын

What about the third option? ;-)

@jaelynfigueroa1566 3 жыл бұрын

Untermensch $500, game pass, couch, u good. Simplicity at it’s finest, not everybody wants to tinker with menus.

@EddieFreak 3 жыл бұрын

Untermensch PC’s are a shit ton of work dude who are you kidding. I have one and I love it sm but honestly in terms of gaming if I had to pick one I’d choose an Xbox over a PC. Luckily I don’t have to!

@EddieFreak 3 жыл бұрын

Untermensch I’m not talking about launching games I’m talking about the entire process of purchasing/building a cost efficient computer and then learning how to access the files you need and just how to work a PC in general. I think you’d be surprised at the general population’s ability to use anything more complex than an iPhone. Anyway, please keep the unnecessary insults at bay, there’s really no need for that.

@jaelynfigueroa1566 3 жыл бұрын

Untermensch When’s the last time I’ve updated a driver on my xbox, had to update windows, check my settings, fix a hardware issue? Don’t be so naive my g

@scorpian007 3 жыл бұрын

This is kind of insane how much of a performance improvement there is without any optimisation or patch to take advantage of the new hardware...

@FullNietzsche 3 жыл бұрын

Why though? If you upgraded from a GTX 1060 to a RTX 2080 (for example) and a weak CPU to a strong one in your PC, games would suddenly perform a lot better.

@scorpian007 3 жыл бұрын

@@FullNietzsche Yes, ofcourse. But they're all using a standard set of API's, 3rd party libraries and generally same OS under the hood as far as PC gaming goes. But it's not always the case, e.g. GTA IV runs poorly even on modern systems which is why 60fps on XBSX is even more impressive. Console development I can only assume is different as devs leverage certain tricks of the hardware to get more out of it, certain features of the GPU, or features that are not present in the newer consoles (i.e. EDRAM/ESRAM), or code to the "metal". The XBSX has to essentially emulate all these functions from previous generations, and emulating the original XB and X360 would place a huge overhead on resources seeing as even PC versions of these emulators run poorly.

@RealThorOdinson 3 жыл бұрын

@@FullNietzsche Because developers build that into PC games and not into console games. The difference is developer input.

@FullNietzsche 3 жыл бұрын

@@RealThorOdinson Console games and PC games are the same games with the same code, an Xbox is essentially a Windows 10 PC locked down to only play games. It's why Xbox games like Forza run natively on PC, they aren't 'ported' like in the 360 era, it's the same code. So it's really not as super special amazing as you think, that games with unlocked framerates on Xbox suddenly run a lot better when given faster hardware to run on. Developers don't need to tell the game 'look, you are running on better hardware, isn't that great? Now let me explain to you how to run faster and put in some special magic programming to make this happen'. That should be the expected behaviour and surprise no-one.

@nonyabusiness6084 3 жыл бұрын

@@FullNietzsche You literally have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Which begs the question, why comment like you do?

@TheVoiceofReason4ya 3 жыл бұрын

For all the people out there that cant seem to figure out what's happening here, this has ZERO to do with how next gen titles will run. DF simplified it on Twitter for you. Haters, here you go; @digitalfoundry "PSA: It's confirmed that while back-compat gets 12TF of compute power, this is in compatibility mode - you *aren't* seeing the architectural improvements of RDNA 2, including its IPC boost. Rather you're seeing what a 12TF GCN-based console with Zen 2 would've looked like..."

@FermbizX 3 жыл бұрын

Id like to see how Lost Odyssey runs

@AlphaPyxis 3 жыл бұрын

Hmm it's not compatible on xone cause the emulation seems to have problems with games that have multiple discs. I have lost odyssey and it doesn't work so are we sure that xsx will play it?

@mcspankys 3 жыл бұрын

@@AlphaPyxis that’s odd I remember seeing lost odyssey on Xbox one bc

@JDelwynn 3 жыл бұрын

@@AlphaPyxis Not true, DF even has a video about the game and Blue Dragon.

@wildonionchase3934 3 жыл бұрын

@@AlphaPyxis Lost Odyssey has been available for years on Xbox One, it was even given away for free a couple of years ago when it was made available on Xbox One

@AlphaPyxis 3 жыл бұрын

@@wildonionchase3934 oh wow, sorry it has been a good while since I checked and the last time I did microsoft said that the xone bc had problems with games with multiple discs thanks for pointing that out, doubt rockstar would have made LA noire bc as they probably wanted to milk their "remaster" so I never checked again. Thanks for that I'll definitely be playing lost odyssey soon again.

@jacobwarner9710 3 жыл бұрын

I look forward to seeing where the Series X is a year from now. This has got to be only 50% of what it's capable of

@Enigmalake 3 жыл бұрын

Finally. Got tired of hearing clueless people talk about the Series X

@maruf7956 3 жыл бұрын

Still no next gen games 😄

@TyDaSilencer 3 жыл бұрын

@@maruf7956 they have 23 studios games are coming.

@Enigmalake 3 жыл бұрын

Complexity we really haven’t seen anything next gen yet have we? and I have all 3 main consoles and a series X and PS5 preordered (in case you think I care about 12 year old mentality of “console wars”)

@pritampaul2507 3 жыл бұрын

@@maruf7956 horizon and spiderman miles morales on ps4 lol, ps has no next gen games

@kang9812 3 жыл бұрын

@@maruf7956 How many years did The Last Guardian take? Shenmue 3? Final Fantasy 15?

@stephencosta1599 3 жыл бұрын

Its looking like Microsoft has crafted a quality product here

@jgalarza234 3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I will eventually get one.

@system-error 3 жыл бұрын

Yep I have to say I was pretty much sold on this machine from that DF video where they went over the design at Microsoft. Some people were moaning about the design because it's not cosmetically ostentatious like the PS5. But I think they're being very superficial, if you watch that DF video it really sheds light on the beauty of its form and function.

@jgalarza234 3 жыл бұрын

SYSTEM ERROR right, personally I don’t care what the system looks like as long as it performs. I do personally enjoy Sony exclusives more which is I why I preordered the PS5 first but I think Xbox users will be more pleased than they expected

@stephencosta1599 3 жыл бұрын

SYSTEM ERROR I think it’s beautiful they chose that shape for its cooling efficiency and aesthetic everything about it just makes sense

@vent9409 3 жыл бұрын

@@system-error the funniest thing is that playstation fanboys laughed about the size of the series x and how big it is. and now the ps5 is even fucking bigger lmao

@caiomoyanodealmeida5425 3 жыл бұрын

What I'm really curious about is the performance with ray tracing on or how new games will run on the XBX One X, but awesome video!

@S_F_S 10 ай бұрын

I LOVE Rich's video analysis !! They are just amazing, so much passion, so much knowledge and delivered in an impeccable communication style, always professional yet smooth. Congratulations Rich, you are absolutely one of the BEST EVER in your field. Hats off to You Sir !

@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_ 3 жыл бұрын

Who the hell says "Who cares about backward comparability"?

@bonjovi7399 3 жыл бұрын

Funny how the tide turns. I distinctly remember both Xbone and PS4 fans saying "who wants to play those shitty old games anyway" when backward compatibility was mentioned by PC players. Just goes to show when consolers dont have it they downplay it and shit on it. When they do eventually get it, its the most magical new thing thats just been invented and compares to the second coming of Christ. Remember the old arguments about above 30fps and 720p. Apparently consolers were adamant the human eye couldnt see it. Look how things have changed and they have backtracked. Makes you lot look kinda dump.

@MadsterV 3 жыл бұрын

@@bonjovi7399 60 fps is not cinematic XDDDDDD pepperidge farm remembers

@denirowaller3995 3 жыл бұрын

I was someone who wanted backwards compatibility badly in the past but I don’t think I care for it anymore

@awake7586 3 жыл бұрын

@@bonjovi7399 you were able to play Xbox original titles since Xbox 360 so that does not really aplies for Xbox users lol

@MrDtoU1 3 жыл бұрын

@David Villamarin said so and I quote "Nobody buys a new console to play old games"

@MarioGoatse 3 жыл бұрын

Okay that's actually incredible. We're finally getting the performance that last Gen games promised. The extra horsepower really makes Back Compatibility a massive feature. Good going Xbox.

@xjm40 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for review... Great info

@Poogs 3 жыл бұрын

Getting PS5 but I think I’ll be jumping back to Xbox for first time since 360.

@R0H1TPRASAD 3 жыл бұрын

I had a huge games library of ps3- if I instead had a xbox at that gen I would still have almost all those games in my library- makes me super annoyed at sony

@igorthelight 3 жыл бұрын

If you have a somewhat powerful PC - try RPCS3 ;-)

@mrbojangles1391 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, when my PS3 died a horrible death, I had no way of finishing my library of games. I had just bought a PS4 and wasn't about to buy another PS3. I'm done with Sony and will be getting a Series X in the Spring of 2021.

@Duckingheights 3 жыл бұрын

@@igorthelight yeah first you got to find a compatible blu ray player that you can use to extract PS3 games.

@bonjovi7399 3 жыл бұрын

@@mrbojangles1391 So the guy gave an answer of how to play all of your PS2 and PS3 games with resolution and possibly FPS improvements. Yet you decide to go to a company that has burned its own supporters for years, apart for this one small thing that has been available for other systems for free, for years. Strange bunch you consolers. Its like Stockholm Syndrome.

@marinebymistake 3 жыл бұрын

doesn't ps5 has backwards compatibility too?

@decoyfox 3 жыл бұрын

I wish sony cared about it's legacy as much as xbox does

@wyterabitt2149 3 жыл бұрын

@Douglas Oliveira Microsoft have well and truly conned people, if anyone thinks they care in the slightest. They are waiting for the morons to come and help them take over completely, and once they do they will take control and destroy gaming as we know it just like they tried to do after the success of the 360. It will be the worse thing to ever happen, and there are so many lemmings casually marching to the cliff edge happy and proud to be doing so. It's hilarious, and sad, how stupid the general public truly are.

@barbecue1015 3 жыл бұрын

wyterabitt and it’s not like Sony might do the same thing if they take over? You see how they handled the launch of Playstation 3, or did you not want to mention that nightmare?

@wyterabitt2149 3 жыл бұрын

@@barbecue1015 They basically already had taken over and got their chance, and didn't do that. You can only go on demonstrated behaviour. Sony could have, and never did several times. Microsoft tried the very moment it got the slightest chance, and on top of that has over 40 years of the exact same behaviour over, and over, and over, and over in related industries . . . .

@SuperFirstSecond 3 жыл бұрын

@@wyterabitt2149 Ah yes, Microsoft who has pushed for disc based legacy support, cross platform play, an effective rental service, and standardized PC gamepads (allowing for easier conversion between Console and PC), these are the bad guys. Say what you want about MS as a monolithic corporation, they have their problems, but in the console space they're the most consumer friendly publisher out there. We might as well hold Sony Music's draconian copyright strikes against them for facilitating what you're allowed to post on youtube these days.

@wyterabitt2149 3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperFirstSecond Except that is nonsense, Sony did not make the copyright laws or the youtube implementation to abide by them. And everything you list from Microsoft happens to be the best for Microsoft as well. And they certainly had nothing to do with the gampad thing. That predates anything Microsoft did by a long way, they just joined in - and that really shows how they pull the wool over people so easily. Not as good as Apple manage, but still pretty impressive. And what is best for Microsoft, once they have control, in many other areas won't be good for consumers.

@houseofshred3725 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent work as usual

@Sqdlow 3 жыл бұрын

Gta 4 at 60fps oh my god and those loading times at 22:02 woah man

@evanmurray3974 3 жыл бұрын

Good job Microsoft! Preservation of our gaming history is super important. Imagine if you couldn't reread your favourite book or rewatch your favourite movie due to its age...

@stuartmarshall7099 3 жыл бұрын

Its also important to me cause I bought a tonne of XBLA game on the 360 and I can still play them :)

@RobotMasterSplash 3 жыл бұрын

360 was frustrating when it came to back compat, compatibility was very spotty and slow to get additions. Since MS put Rareware in charge of developing Xbox back compat along with Rare Replay, these features have been top tier.

@DEVILTAZ35 3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. It would have been so easy for them to forget about the past but i am glad they don't.

@413571 3 жыл бұрын

Please test Just Cause 3, that game is literally unplayable on current gen hardware!

@victordossantos5067 3 жыл бұрын

That is so true, I have an og Xbox One and sometimes I feel like I'm watching a powerpoint presentation lol

@mustafagode 3 жыл бұрын

OMG! So true!

@reynutz 3 жыл бұрын

seriously makes no sense why they didn't just lower some effects to make it run decently on XB1 lol

@s4shrish 3 жыл бұрын

@@reynutz Pretty sure it is CPU issue and some memory leak things. They did fix some of it and lower the graphics in Just Cause 4, but alongside the worse structure and worse gfx, it has worse reception even among gamers.

@Shadowninja1200 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah i'd be curious to see if it hits a locked 30. I was watching a friend of mine play it on ps4 and it hurts my eyes.

@zubochonk9205 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, I'm also interested in what kind of similar PC spec will produce thess graphics results. So we can get a rough Idea on what kind of hardware these consoles are capable of, I know they are saying its equivalent to a high end PC but a direct performance comparison would be a good watch.

@the_empath_etc 3 жыл бұрын

17:40 For those looking for that sweet GTA IV (4) footage.

@HorseheadNebula85 3 жыл бұрын

I trust one man to give it to me straight on this stuff. If Rich says it's dynamite, I'm all in.

@leeboy2k1 3 жыл бұрын

Despite the fact that he colluded with Nvidia to hide the fact that the RTX3080 is not much faster than a 2080ti at 4K ;)

@HorseheadNebula85 3 жыл бұрын

@@leeboy2k1 I've watched all of Rich's coverage on the 3080. He did no such thing. He provided plainly discernible benchmarks and let the viewers draw their own conclusions. Stop the misinformation.