CPF Reviews #17- Hiding in Plain Sight: The Meaning of The Shining

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Corn Pone Flicks

Corn Pone Flicks

5 ай бұрын

Stanley Kubrick's The Shining has long been one of the most over-analyzed films in history, going to often ludicrous extremes...the question is, is it warranted? CPF delves into the film in an attempt to separate myth from reality.

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@imshinycaptain
@imshinycaptain 5 ай бұрын
Kubrick did film the moon landing. But he's so particular that he demanded they actually go to the moon.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 5 ай бұрын
This is a pleasant surprise. Thanks, CPF. I've never found the film confusing. Kubrick gave a one-sentence description that elegantly sums the narrative, if not the actual film itself: "Just a story about a family going quietly insane together" (Paraphrased)
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
Totally agreed. That's my entire point.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 5 ай бұрын
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Right. But "theories" propagate like lice. Then people start "scratching that itch" and join the Torrance family in their madness. Your takes are always grounded and justified in and by the text. It's appreciated. Edit: it's also entertaining af. So entertaining! Thanks man.
@hammeredout8146
@hammeredout8146 5 ай бұрын
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Hello! Is it possible to DM you?
@wrathofatlantis2316
@wrathofatlantis2316 5 ай бұрын
He really said "quietly insane" and "together"? I realize he did not want to spoil his movie, but that is not a conventional description either. A conventional description would have been "A story about a family isolated from the world with insanity creeping in."
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 5 ай бұрын
@@wrathofatlantis2316 I believe he worded it like that, but I can't find the interview or source to support my recollection. It stuck with me when I read it, for whatever that's worth.
@andythefork
@andythefork 5 ай бұрын
I could watch videos about The Shining forever, and ever, and ever...
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
My overall point is that you probably shouldn't....
@andythefork
@andythefork 5 ай бұрын
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Yeah I got that right off the bat, but I'm still always curious what people come up with. Doesn't mean it all sways me.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 5 ай бұрын
Come and play with us, Andy... (or not, maybe not?)
@boboayame2065
@boboayame2065 5 ай бұрын
My favourite bit by Jay Weidner is where he says 'It was scary but I wouldn't describe The Shining as a wave of terror' then in the next sentence says 'As i watched the film a wave of terror came over me'
@HedgeHawking
@HedgeHawking 5 ай бұрын
Please don't stop making these videos. I've been following you for years and the quality and depth of your work is amazing. I never click faster on a video than when I see you have uploaded one! Thank you for your effort!
@penitentialarts
@penitentialarts 3 ай бұрын
When it comes to the film, I think Dick Halloran's explanation is really the best summary of what is happening. A lot of bad things have happened at the hotel, and there are psychic echoes of all that, like the smell of burnt toast long after the toast is gone. Jack and Danny are both psychics ("shining"), so they sense those echoes, and interpret them in their own ways. Jack is mentally ill and guilt-ridden and can't really deal with all that, so the "echoes" end up driving him crazy. Danny, who is just a child, senses the echoes but isn't really influenced by them. In the end, there are no ghosts. The hotel is just a place that is saturated by psychic echoes, and two psychically sensitive individuals who don't understand their abilities end up getting exposed to them for a long time.
@henryburby6077
@henryburby6077 5 ай бұрын
There's something so presumptuous about saying "my theory explains the shining" rather than "here is my interpretation of the shining." If people said the latter, they couldn't argue that their interpretation was "more better er" than anyone else's. Nor could they pretend that, by occupying what they imagine to be the mindset of the director of a great piece of art, that they are as smart as that director who they idolize, maybe smarter.
@credoratat3272
@credoratat3272 Ай бұрын
Just do what the rich people in Barry Lyndon does, the opposite of the Law of Jante, so instead of living by "Don't think YOU'RE better than others", rather go by "I'M not gonna be worse than others."
@runarvollan
@runarvollan Ай бұрын
The best thing about Kubrick is that EVERY theory is right. He thought about em all! "The truth of a thing is the feel of it, and not the think of it." - Stanley Kubrick
@michaelsmith9102
@michaelsmith9102 Ай бұрын
Many straw men died to make this video.
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 Күн бұрын
Well, this is why people bet on things, and go further than that. The point of any 2nd (or 3rd) theory is, presumably, to _make more and better sense than the 1st theory did._ People seem to forget this quite often, however.
@jrwdigitalmedia
@jrwdigitalmedia 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the production value placing yourself there. Very snappy work. I appreciated all of the effort. I came for the Twin Peaks, stayed for the Overlook.
@AmandaHugandKiss411
@AmandaHugandKiss411 5 ай бұрын
Nice touch at 12:06 when you say "excuse me coming through" then later see it was the twin children you were speaking to. Love it 😅
@NuStiuFrate
@NuStiuFrate 5 ай бұрын
Reading the title of this video i thought "what else is there to explain, i thought the movie was pretty clear". Then i clicked anyway because i like this channel. Glad i clicked, very entertaining and informative.
@Jan0123able
@Jan0123able 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the absurdity of Wendy being the villain/abuser and hallucinating the whole story. While she did stay with Jack keeping her son in a dangerous situation this made her an enabler of abuse not the main abuser. I do think the ghosts are real. That always seemed clear to me. Great video. LOVED the Gordon Cole scene.
@WolflordFenrisVargr
@WolflordFenrisVargr 5 ай бұрын
Just discovered you. Absolutely brilliant vid, both production and content! I especially liked the, “ Pardon me, coming through” bit! Thank you for dispelling the idea that Kubrick could make no mistakes. His subtlety and brilliance get used as a magic wand to cover over rough edges of these theories. The man was good but everybody goofs up now and then. New subscriber
@thegroundremembersher
@thegroundremembersher 5 ай бұрын
Parts of this were really hard to watch, they were so nuts lol. Thanks for bringing a little sanity to the conversation. It's strange that these people don't think domestic violence is horrific enough by itself. I think theories like these partly stem from people being so obsessed with lore and easter eggs, they've forgotten how to watch a film.
@deraykrause4517
@deraykrause4517 5 ай бұрын
I'm blown away by how good this video is. Such a great take and so well produced. Absolutely brilliant, I love it.
@aaronredacted6377
@aaronredacted6377 5 ай бұрын
Yes! Analysis is BACK on the menu boys!
@paulornothing773
@paulornothing773 5 ай бұрын
I've been balls deep in lengthy Shining video essays over the past few days, and this is a wonderful way to cap it all off. A thoroughly excellent video, with some incredible filmmaking thrown in as a bonus. Will deffo check out the rest of this series!
@DBSG1976
@DBSG1976 5 ай бұрын
Great "Fawlty Towers" reference, that great, mean spirited, but hilarious sitcom.
@dionturner4279
@dionturner4279 5 ай бұрын
As much as I enjoy The Shining, this proves it could be improved with a cat in every scene.
@theDiReW0lf
@theDiReW0lf 5 ай бұрын
This was much needed. I adore Kubrick’s movies and a good theory of the meaning behind them, but people always go full crackpot. Love your channel. ✌️
@post1113
@post1113 5 ай бұрын
My theory, is it's an extension of The Beatles story. I'll give you a couple of examples. When Ullman is showing them around at the begining, they are walking in a line that resembles the cover of Abby Road. In order, Ullman & Lennon (the respective leaders), next, Wendy & Ringo (the goofy ones), 3rd, Jack (soul trapped) & Paul ("Paul Is Dead") and lastly, Watson (barely says a word) & George (the quiet Beatle). The attractive woman in the tub transitions into the hag. This represents John going from Cynthia to Yoko.
@owennelson7081
@owennelson7081 5 ай бұрын
Joe GIRARD
@watermelonlalala
@watermelonlalala 5 ай бұрын
Ahahaha.
@patricktilton5377
@patricktilton5377 5 ай бұрын
@@owennelson7081EYE SCREAM
@mynameisfen
@mynameisfen 5 ай бұрын
Then by the time Dick Hallorann (Billy Preston) shows up right at the end it's more or less already all over?
@honestabe411
@honestabe411 5 ай бұрын
I’ve watched all your twin peaks videos. For the past two nights I’ve had insomnia and been watching analysis videos of the shining, and then this pops up? Eerie!
@Senor0Droolcup
@Senor0Droolcup 4 ай бұрын
this video was so much fun. I enjoyed the Room 237 documentary even though it was clear that all of the participants were literally bat guano crazy. cornpone’s analysis is, once again, essential to restoring some sanity. Love your twin peaks work. 😄
@GiantBoarMonster
@GiantBoarMonster 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Thank you for your time and effort. Inserting yourself in the movie is really neat. Growing up watching this on our bought VHS copy (still got it), I kinda had the impression that both parents had a bit of psychical powers or maybe just Jack along with Danny. Their union, after-all created Danny. Any psychic attenuation Jack might have, in conjunction with his own incurred stress and alcoholism, encourages him to come under the hotel's evil influence.. ? And then Danny's ability is intensified due to the stress, the intense terror experienced at the evil hotel. His Shining also becomes more pronounced after meeting Hallorann, before any of the shenanigans. It seems like up until the hotel, Danny didn't exhibit psychic powers otherwise there may have been a scene where his parents imply as much, but he did exhibit the effects of trauma and physical abuse at home, which is likely a type of catalyst. With the events at the hotel being a further catalyst building upon the previous abuse. All that said, the audience is meant to ponder the mystery. That in large part what makes it so compelling. All the bullshit theories on the film, one way of looking at it, is that it's a testament to its magnificence.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
That's also what's implied by Doctor Sleep, essentially, especially with Danny's presence "waking up" the hotel, along with the fact that he and Abra were actually related in the novel, indicating it's passed through families.
@laurenlester1418
@laurenlester1418 5 ай бұрын
This is the first video I've watched by you and I'm very impressed. Also you kind of remind me of Brad Dourif (it's a complement I promise)
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
It's not the first time I've heard that.
@mkhdnimg
@mkhdnimg 5 ай бұрын
That bit where you asked the girls to stand aside made me spit out my coffee. I like your style, i'm subscribing and a new fan.
@horatius2006
@horatius2006 5 ай бұрын
Wow! Tour 'de force! Truly a masterful effort for a movie you clearly loved. I always though the oddities (everything well lit, lights going on and off between cuts, continuity errors) were a conscious choice by Kubrick to make watching the movie intentionally unsettling and creating dread in the viewer. Great work CPF!
@Eli_B3000
@Eli_B3000 5 ай бұрын
Incredible video, as always. The knowledge, editing, and humor make these top tier content. I stumbled on your channel originally from Twin Peaks recommendations, but have loved everything I've seen on here. Keep it up, these are all fascinating and a great value to movie lovers.
@curtdilger6235
@curtdilger6235 4 ай бұрын
This presentation is highly accomplished, hilarious, and entertaining. Audaciously rational and level headed, it is in serious danger of being used as a permanent recalibration for future and endless discussion. Congratulations
@trceb
@trceb 5 ай бұрын
I’m always skeptical when someone puts out a Kubrick movie analysis, but this was awesome. Great job.
@jakedee507
@jakedee507 5 ай бұрын
Regarding fact vs fiction in The Shining, it seems more and more apparent that at some point all we are watching is the horror novel Jack is struggling to write in the hotel. The red jacket is a huge tell, so is the smoking cigarette on the ashtray beside the changing typewriters.
@watermelonlalala
@watermelonlalala 5 ай бұрын
ahahaha. How do you know Wendy didn't write the book, after she escaped?
@cld6619
@cld6619 5 ай бұрын
Oh man, this was so Genius. I've seen tons of mock-and-documentaries about this movie, but yours is among the best. I laughed my ass of the whole time, best scene was the twins singing for Mothra😂 Great sense of humor. Can't thank you enough for this❤ Absolute brillant
@bozosaurus666
@bozosaurus666 5 ай бұрын
Very entertaining. Just discovered your channel right now. Loving your commentary on debunking all these silly theories. Instant subscribe. Love the editing and production of this video. Keep up the great work, mate.
@MetalTrenches
@MetalTrenches 5 ай бұрын
These videos are criminally underrated given the above and beyond effort put into them. Great work.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
Nonsense...I don't have a single video rated below 94% last I looked. Those are very good ratings.
@gayfifty
@gayfifty 5 ай бұрын
We love you CPF. Another great video, thank you.❤❤❤
@classiclife7204
@classiclife7204 5 ай бұрын
Hey look everybody, a SANE person talking about "The Shining"! Thank you for this. There are other debunk videos and videos that just ignore the usual conspiraceh stuff, but I loved the really saucy and creative style you used here. Automatic sub. Quick note about the Duvall thing: she has said, MORE THAN ONCE, that Kubrick wasn't "abusive", but man, people have their favorite narratives, don't they? This applies to the issue of the ghosts too, of course.
@flynn6854
@flynn6854 2 күн бұрын
How the hell does this not have over a million views? Absolutely excellent video!
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks Күн бұрын
It's only been up a few months...by my general standards, it's doing incredibly well. It's basically everything else on this channel that has no views.
@flynn6854
@flynn6854 Күн бұрын
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks I don’t think that’ll be the case much longer. Keep up the good work dude!
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 22 сағат бұрын
@@flynn6854 As I've discovered, KZfaq traffic is much like music sales in the 1980s...just because people loved the single doesn't mean they go out and buy the album. They just buy the single and then move to the next single by someone else. This platform wants people to just churn out content on the same topic over and over, and I'm just not doing that. My real job is boring enough without my hobby being boring, too. But glad you enjoyed it.
@jacktriesto
@jacktriesto 5 ай бұрын
Always love a new video drop from this channel. Love the production, your approach to analysis and the humour. Please keep doing your thing.
@eds4754
@eds4754 5 ай бұрын
Great to see you back, excited to watch this. I already know I’ll love it!
@guybrushmonkey97
@guybrushmonkey97 5 ай бұрын
The axe moving in front of you at 8:56 looks perfect And the display showing "Room 237" and "Dumb and Dumber" at 31:26 was such a great detail
@CopterBlue
@CopterBlue 5 ай бұрын
Really love when you have a new video. I saw that crazy doc on netflix a few years back and had lots of laughs and very similar thoughts to you.
@mckeldin1961
@mckeldin1961 5 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! An intelligent (and funny) debunking of the BS that has grown up around Kubrick's truly great movie!
@wander5355
@wander5355 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone who gets it. Thank you! A criticism about the editing: the background audio is overwhelming.
@SaraBanartist
@SaraBanartist 5 ай бұрын
I had noticed the moving furniture at the hotel and I always liked to think it was The Overlook being creepy. Stuff dissappears and reappears and the family never notices, which is just a neat little bit of atmosphere that spooked me out. Granted, I didn't really care if it was deliberate or not (and I doubt it was) but it was a neat thing to notice.
@LiamDeeley
@LiamDeeley 5 ай бұрын
A Friday treat. Another great video. So nice to hear your take on this. I have always taken this as an allegory for addiction and how it affects families and can be passed on.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
Definitely, and Doctor Sleep only made that more obvious.
@watermelonlalala
@watermelonlalala 5 ай бұрын
Jack T. and Mandy C. in EWS have a similar problem.
@InglouriousBradsterd
@InglouriousBradsterd 5 ай бұрын
Great Take! Your editing and comedic style is second to none in The Shining videos! Well done!
@jakedizzle
@jakedizzle 5 ай бұрын
You give off Brad Dourif vibes and I think that’s awesome.
@GuyEdwards001
@GuyEdwards001 5 ай бұрын
This is the type of video I wish I could push the Like button more than once! Great image to the “All work and no play” scene. Thank you!
@debramiller7317
@debramiller7317 5 ай бұрын
Beat me to this exact sentiment.
@TeatroGrotesco
@TeatroGrotesco 5 ай бұрын
I feel the date discrepancy can be chalked up to a combination of Jack having had a drink more recently than he has told Wendy and an addict's propensity to lie.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
I'd agree, but for the fact that the hotel manager specifically says there's no alcohol on site, so he wouldn't have had the chance in the intervening month.
@TeatroGrotesco
@TeatroGrotesco 5 ай бұрын
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks "Think more fourth dimensionally." Jack tells Wendy that he has stopped drinking ....June Jack takes a beer on July 4th from best bud, Enabler. Does not tell Wendy of the sobriety restart.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
Maybe, but I'm never willing to invent events not seen or described to explain discrepancies. Something tangible has to suggest it.
@patricktilton5377
@patricktilton5377 5 ай бұрын
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Let's suppose that Jack's encounter with Lloyd happens "ONE MONTH LATER" plus, say, another WEEK -- so, maybe 5 weeks after CLOSING DAY. That would be a total of 6 months pus one week since Jack had had a drink, when he told Wendy he'd never touch another drop. Wendy presumably believes that Jack hadn't had a drop to drink for 5 months at the time she told the Doctor about the injury Danny suffered. But if Jack actually HAD snuck a drink during that 5-month period -- say, about 5 weeks into it, i.e. about 3 months and 3 weeks before he got the job as the Caretaker -- then Wendy would've been LIED TO by Jack, who had actually snuck at least one drink after having vowed NOT to, and Jack would've been telling Lloyd the truth about it being 5 miserable months rather than around 6 months plus a week or so (as Wendy thought). Also, keep in mind that we don't know how much time passes between THE INTERVIEW (and Danny's 'episode' in Denver) and CLOSING DAY. We know that CLOSING DAY is on October 30th -- the hotel's "season" being from May 15th until then -- meaning that the first day the Torrance family is alone there is Halloween. THE INTERVIEW could have been conducted a month or two before CLOSING DAY, for all we know. I'd presume that they would've had to pack up all their belongings, storing them into some Storage facility before the end of October, since they didn't bring all their furniture & books & whatnot up to the Overlook. If Jack was hired by Ullman -- after "the Denver people" recommended him -- say, in mid-September, that would mean that they had some 6 weeks to get ready for their CLOSING DAY tour of the hotel (etc.), with, say, another 6 weeks until Jack's encounter with Lloyd after that CLOSING DAY tour. Counting back "5 miserable months" from then (say, mid-December) would mean Jack secretly drank booze in mid-July or thereabouts. Hell, maybe he secretly tied one on on the 4th of July (some 57 years after the 1921 July 4th Ball (the PLAYGIRL magazine dating from 1978), and he chatted with Lloyd roughly 1 week into December -- say, ONE MONTH LATER + one week, i.e. from 31 October until the 4th or 5th of December. Jack could easily have gotten drunk in July -- two to three months before THE INTERVIEW -- all while keeping Wendy ignorant of it. Jack lies to Wendy more than once in the film, so it's not as if it's out-of-character for him to have lied to her about his drinking after vowing not to drink. It would be nice if there was a shot during the "INTERVIEW" sequence showing a Calendar with a specific MONTH depicted -- with all the past days having an 'X' drawn through their boxes -- to clue us in as to how much time passes between THE INTERVIEW and CLOSING DAY (30 October), but barring some sharp-eyed person noticing such a detail -- either at the Overlook's LOBBY or Ullman's office, or at their Denver apartment -- we just can't know how much time elapsed between those scenes.
@debramiller7317
@debramiller7317 5 ай бұрын
@@patricktilton5377JESUS my brain hurts now.​
@spicybrad
@spicybrad 5 ай бұрын
Every single analysis video on this channel is best in class. Thank you for making so many of my favorite videos.
@hammeredout8146
@hammeredout8146 5 ай бұрын
This is really good. I speak with some authority on the issue as I have made video essays about the same topic. No, I'm not dropping a plug. This day belongs to Matt Murray. I'm of the mind that the continuity errors are merely continuity errors, but the idea that the two Grady first names might be a mistake was something I had never considered. I was happy to say that the disappearing chair, the revolving carpet, these were clearly unintentional, but the idea that they could get the first name of a character wrong--I assumed that was beyond the pale. I actually had, what I thought, was a very plausible explanation for the two first names, but Murray has wielded Occam's Razor with greater determination and whittled down the mystery to barest essence. Huzzah!
@davidroberts1026
@davidroberts1026 4 ай бұрын
Just discovered your channel today, and I'm really appreciating and enjoying your work--fun, insightful, and often funny. And this was excellent.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 4 ай бұрын
Thanks...I can never tell what will take off. The views on these videos are incredibly variable.
@UatuOmega
@UatuOmega 5 ай бұрын
If only the Torrances had brought a cute lil cat with them; maybe that could have countered the insanity factor.
@SeanMofuckinMoney
@SeanMofuckinMoney 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate the grounded approach but I think using the book as proof of any meaning in the film is not the best approach.
@flibber123
@flibber123 5 ай бұрын
I think why people do this with The Shining in particular is that it's a perfect storm of a movie. It's made by a meticulous filmmaker. It's made by someone who has done 'deep' movies before(2001). It's approachable because it's a horror movie. It stars Jack Nicholson in peak Jack Nicholson form. It's based on a story written by one of the most popular writers of all time. Last but not least, all this overheated analysis provides opportunity to create content at a time when there are lots of people creating content. No internet in existence means no 10000 theories on what The Shining is really about. My theory on that topic is that I think what Hallorann tells Danny is the truth. The shining is some kind of psychic power, the hotel IS haunted, but only people with the shining can see the ghosts. Everything in the movie is consistent with that and Kubrick devoted a lot of screen time to that conversation. I'm supposed to believe that conversation was a lie or just Wendy or Jack's delusion? No.
@LUMOSHROOM
@LUMOSHROOM 3 ай бұрын
In all my research this is the best breakdown of The Shining I've seen. Thank you for sticking to the evidence.
@monsterfromid66
@monsterfromid66 5 ай бұрын
Oh thank God for you! I'm sick to the back teeth of all these outre explanations for The Shining. Well done sir. Yours sincerely, a video essay maker for Eureka Masters Of Cinema.
@AliceBowie
@AliceBowie 5 ай бұрын
We went to the moon, but they couldn't use the real footage, because you could see that the earth is donut shaped. So they had kubrick fake it. Also, the moon is pyramid shaped, but you've been tricked into thinking it's round.
@runarvollan
@runarvollan Ай бұрын
The best thing about Kubrick is that EVERY theory is right. He thought about em all! "The truth of a thing is the feel of it, and not the think of it." - Stanley Kubrick
@matthewwhite7473
@matthewwhite7473 2 ай бұрын
Thank goodness someone speaking some sense about the Shining at last. I watched the other reviews and theories, including Room 237 and found them absolutely ridiculous. A man like Kubrick isn't going to have hidden meanings in cans of Calumet. Very accurate, entertaining and funny analysis.
@yomiofnox
@yomiofnox 5 ай бұрын
The moment “Shine On You Crazy Diamond”started playing at the end, I couldn’t stop laughing. There couldn’t have been a more perfect song to end this video with lmao.
@SlapDashEffort
@SlapDashEffort 4 ай бұрын
Excellent! Thank you so much for this. It should be no surprise that the long filming time, constant re-writes and the fire lead to continuity errors. Kubrick was fallible, like the rest of us. To try to deny and make out everything is there for a reason it is a form of lunacy in itself.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 4 ай бұрын
I included examples of other films both by Kubrick and others to illustrate this point, but it's conspicuous how dissenters don't bother to address those examples and just ask, with heaps of incredulity, if I really think this or that could be a mistake, yet seem perfectly okay with assuming the vanishing barrels in The Two Towers was a mistake, even though it's just as big an error. It's a weird form of worship, something I just don't relate to at all.
@JohnnyOrgan
@JohnnyOrgan 5 ай бұрын
It's been so long! But thank you, Matt. Your analysis are always a joy to watch. And this is SO ON THE NOSE. A fantastically triumphant return! My own belief is that most of the subtle mistakes in continuity etc were just a way of making the whole movie feel...Off. Nothing seems to make sense. The structure of the building, objects moving around. Subliminally telling you something ISN'T QUITE RIGHT and all around them. A way of unsettling the audience without spiderwebs and flickering lights. Any way, great stuff. Sharing with my movie loving friends.
@ronaldyodersr
@ronaldyodersr 5 ай бұрын
As someone who has watched every shitty Shining analysis video on KZfaqs, I want to thank you for making this one which is not shitty. I've loved a lot of your Lynch vids but this is an absolute tour de force my friend
@PeculiarNotions
@PeculiarNotions 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I know it's difficult to be reasonable on the internet.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
I compensate with wheelbarrows full of sarcasm.
@kamerongaxiola10
@kamerongaxiola10 23 күн бұрын
This was great! Also your green screen work here is actually pretty good. A few of those clips of you in the overlook were really good.
@easymentality
@easymentality 5 ай бұрын
F***in THANK YOU. 3:40 The Tennis ball is YELLOW in Danny's play scene. Every recent version of the film I've seen has had a pink ball in that scene, and...it makes me wanna go all Jack Torrance on whoever made the decision to change the color in that scene.
@watermelonlalala
@watermelonlalala 5 ай бұрын
Little details in movies might mean...something.
@brettspeeler7166
@brettspeeler7166 5 ай бұрын
I came here by accident. Thanks for your analysis of The Shining! I really like your approach! And I like your humor! Great video!
@SweatyOracle
@SweatyOracle 5 ай бұрын
Always a thrill to see you post!
@kathybrascher1910
@kathybrascher1910 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for debunking all that nonsense out there about this movie. I’ve watched them and thought they were really reaching, but when you pointed out that they attached to theory to subjects they were themselves interested in. Good job.
@jf6751
@jf6751 5 ай бұрын
You have done a FANTASTIC job!! Finally a Shining analysis that makes sense! By the way, I did enjoy the mini series because it was closer to the books which are my favorite telling of the story hands down (the Shining and Dr. Sleep). The books are tied into Kings other stories which is a detail that I absolutely love. Anyway, well done. 🙂
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
I very much enjoyed King's book and Kubrick's film, but that mini-series...my biggest beef with it is that the directing is terrible. It's utterly lacking in subtlety-Horace Derwent exploding into a shower of sand for no reason, CGI fire hoses with teeth, doors moving and lights flickering every single time the characters leave the room...honestly, Kubrick's directing feels more like the novel's approach to scares even when the actual events are different.
@dclark4422
@dclark4422 3 ай бұрын
I'm amazed by the production of this video. You've got another subscriber.
@jasonmccann5647
@jasonmccann5647 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! Seen The Shining 112 times..and finally an explanation that makes sense. Keep doing these videos! 👍😎
@malagacartas3238
@malagacartas3238 5 ай бұрын
Always a good day when you release a video
@Ash.Crow.Goddess
@Ash.Crow.Goddess 5 ай бұрын
I think this is the danger of young adults trying to apply the all-encompassing Easter egg masterpieces of today with the less detail oriented masterpieces of 50-ish years ago. You can't stick a Gen Z microscope over a Gen X movie and expect it to look the same.
@TheDamianvain17
@TheDamianvain17 4 ай бұрын
I'm so thankful that somebody finally put out an intelligent and logical analysis Of the fam. It was already an excellent film, even though it deviated greatly from the book. Obviously, what is in one medium can't always transfer neatly into another. Besides that, Kubrick used the book as a foundation to reconstruct certain scenes that would get an audience excited and want to talk about. If there was any additional mystery created around this film, it was during his many interviews, where he made, (whether accidental or on purpose), multiple contradictions about the meaning of it all. Which makes sense when one simply factors and how many times he actually rewrote the script. It is highly possible that he kept changing his mind about what he wanted to portray. If anything, he had an overall goal, and as he went through, the long process being over a year, he simply saw the shift in moviegoers tastes, and kept modifying to appease everyone. People seem to forget it's not just some piece of art a director wants to create, thought that is definitely true in this case, but sometimes, it's also about grabbing as much money as you can so you can foot the bill for something else you also want to do. By the way, you did an amazing editing job and I absolutely enjoyed every minute of it. True to form with biting wit, clever jibes, and creative dialog, it was as refreshing as it was validating. Your boldness in statements, daring to enrage those entrenched in the Conferring Education channel found kneeling over Kubrick's ghost, face buried in his crotch, like a man in a dog suit. Ps: thanks for all the Easter eggs, double entendres, and pop culture references! I don't think I have found them all, but it was fun enough for an eventual research with friends. Thank you for it all!
@gobblegobble831
@gobblegobble831 4 ай бұрын
Found corn pone last year,, watching the twin peaks vids during long days at my pointless ass do-nothing job. Love the way you guys always put real thought into the sets and costumes and stuff. Good channel
@Anamorphosis
@Anamorphosis 15 күн бұрын
Fantastic work once again! That moon landing bit had me lulz 😅. OREGONNN!
@Chris-em4tc
@Chris-em4tc 5 ай бұрын
Subscribed. Fantastically produced video. Very funny and entertaining. Great job.
@allendulles2481
@allendulles2481 4 ай бұрын
Great job with the intro and setting!!
@charlesbelindevregille7465
@charlesbelindevregille7465 5 ай бұрын
LOVED IT!!! What a New Year’s treat! Merci!!
@matthewbanzai129
@matthewbanzai129 3 ай бұрын
People's insane reactions to The Shining is weirdly one of my favorite aspects of the movie. I think it's so interesting and often hilarious how deep some people are willing to go over Kubrick's filmmaking and a few continuity errors. One of the reasons Kubrick's my favorite director is in the way he tells relatively simple and straightforward stories in abstract ways. Which, in turn, unfortunately prompts some people to respond to direct simplicity with "No, that's too simple. There's gotta be more!" I wonder how the more extreme theorists take the European cut, which I frankly like a little more than the more common US version.
@starryeye6511
@starryeye6511 5 ай бұрын
You just made my new year!!! Thank you 😀
@milesrobertson6882
@milesrobertson6882 5 ай бұрын
Epic, just epic. As much as I’ve enjoyed seeing things like the Wendy is the abuser thesis, it always seemed like a stretch. You are Occam’s Razor, and a fine one at that. I remember an old KZfaq video called something like “Ancient Aliens Debunked” where an archaeologist went story by story of that awful show and showed with scientific proof why each idea was a crock of shit. This video joins that one in my pantheon of favorites.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
I should look that video up, if it's still here. I've read lots of books and the old CSICOP journals about UFOs, and I'd probably find it entertaining. My personal favorite piece of nonsense about UFO footage, which goes on to this day, is the constant attribution of movement to the blurry object at the end of a long zoom rather than that of the camera taking the footage. Do these people look through telescopes and wonder why the moon is bouncing around in the sky, too?
@milesrobertson6882
@milesrobertson6882 5 ай бұрын
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Exactly! My personal favorite of that Ancient Aliens debunked video is one of geographic simplicity. They highlighted a Stone Age society and mentioned this giant wall with perfectly carved boulders of such precision and size. Obviously this Stone Age settlement did not have the tools to make such precise cuts in the rocks…… cue the Aliens meme guy. The real answer was that although the settlement didn’t have the tools to make the wall, a Bronze Age settlement lie just over the hill a few kilometers away- and they sure did, and with the archaeological evidence of stones in both sites, it’s easy to put the pieces together. I’ll try to find a link for you. It’s a classic. Found it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJ-nYMxm1MDVkYU.htmlsi=AKpMGqUmx5Pvul8v
@maxthompson
@maxthompson 5 ай бұрын
20:15 I’m crying this is the best response I’ve seen to that damn documentary 😂 👏🏼 Thank you for this
@nunyabusiness757
@nunyabusiness757 5 ай бұрын
This is seriously such a great cover of The Shining. THANK YOU!!!
@RamblesBrambles
@RamblesBrambles 4 ай бұрын
Great video..had me chuckling to myself as I had found myself in the past counting various objects in scenes of the movie to find the mysterious 42! Lights on tables..people in halls..cans in larders..
@gametheorymedia
@gametheorymedia 5 ай бұрын
Great to have you back!
@alittleposy
@alittleposy 15 күн бұрын
I love The Shining. I've been watching videos about it here on KZfaq over the last few days, and yours is by far my favorite. I laughed a bunch of times and I'll probably watch it again. I totally agree with you about how batshit most of the theories about it are, including those laid out in Room 237. Like you, I think it's stupid to come up with convoluted theories about tiny details that can probably be ascribed to continuity/human error and could never have been expected to picked up on by viewers in the pre-home theater and computer era of the late 1970s.. Nevertheless, I love Room 237 and will probably continue watching more of these videos "explaining" the film just because it's fun to see the perspectives of people who are are intrigued by it as I am. I remember a professor totally blowing my mind by pointing out ways that small details foreshadowed later events in a short story I wrote, none of which I had intended. Since then I've been a little more open to the idea that the interpretations people come up when experiencing art (a term I use extremely loosely re: to my college short story) are valid/worth considering even if they aren't in line with anything the artist intended when creating the piece. But yeah, the moon landing and backwards/forwards theories are insane.
@audreyquinn73
@audreyquinn73 5 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed that this video went down the bizarre "Shining Rabbit Hole" so I did not have to, and I'm grateful to your efforts. ❤
@ambds1975
@ambds1975 5 ай бұрын
The video got the like, but the way you say MSTRMND got the subscription. Thank you, it was a very nice snowball to the face after I went too far down the Shining rabbit hole.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
Thanks...my wife laughed at that bit, too.
@ambds1975
@ambds1975 5 ай бұрын
Obviously a lady of taste. I look forward to watching you guys' back catalogue!
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 5 ай бұрын
I'm really enjoying this, great work with all the self-insertions into the film. At 6:26 though both the question and the answer about the supernatural are explicitly about the novel; Kubrick even takes care to repeat "the novel" in his answer.
@Vonn_Loren
@Vonn_Loren 5 ай бұрын
I have fun watching people go ham on theories around The Shining, mostly because I find it interesting that they "find what they're already interested in" or looking for within the film. But it's also nice to see someone go Occam's Razor on it all. And I loved the jokes sprinkled in this one -- laughed out loud at the riff on the elevator scene. :)
@generalscheisskopf7435
@generalscheisskopf7435 5 ай бұрын
Finally - the Shining analysis to end all Shining analyses! The Shining does prove one thing, though: Not only will some people believe ANYTHING, but even when the truth is right in front of them, they will not see it. If nothing else, the Shining can be described as an example of how religions are created...
@cannabisanomaly
@cannabisanomaly 5 ай бұрын
holy heck, the editing on this is next level! even down to matching the audio quality and film grain of the movie. not to mention the meticulous cross-referencing of details. thank you for confirming an innate feeling i had while reading through some of the more outlandish theories. although, when you're REALLY obsessed with a movie, it's hard to not pick it to pieces and form false equivalents. it's kind of fun and keeps something you've watched over a hundred times fresh. though, just don't state it as fact to support a conspiracy theory that the moon landing didn't occur
@Crossword131
@Crossword131 5 ай бұрын
Oh, THANK YOU. I am so blown away by people who have such selective research and retainment abilities. Im about 5 minutes in, but im pretty sure I am going to sub.
@AlexDeLarge1
@AlexDeLarge1 5 ай бұрын
I only disagree that the continuity "errors" weren't there on purpose. They're just red herrings. They have nothing to do with anything, it's just the hotel being enigmatic and Kubrick just did it to mess with us. They filmed all of these scenes numerous times, so there is no way this stuff wasn't caught. Also the "partly-obscured Calumet can" theory is really silly and while I think the image of the Indian was intentionally highlighted and shown to the audience, I think the guy missed the forest for the trees when he focused on it in Room 237.
@TheLooneyTunesCritic
@TheLooneyTunesCritic 5 ай бұрын
How did you recreate the shots on TV screens? I'm trying to do the same thing with some Shining footage in After Effects and it doesn't seem to be working. How do you treat the footage your placing in the TV to make it look like it's being captured by Kubrick's camera? Also, for some reason, After Effects can't seem to accurately zero in on the movie within the TV and attach my new footage to it without there being some drifting. Please help! Got a new sub here, sir. You're underrated and I'm gonna share as much as possible. - trevor.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 5 ай бұрын
Basically I added some blur and some grain, desaturated it a bit and boosted the contrast. For tracking, I always make sure the points are on the TV frame and not the image on the TV, but yeah, drifting is almost inevitable, so I usually have to add some keyframes in the motion section to compensate.
@hurin1
@hurin1 4 ай бұрын
While I am in complete agreement with your comments here it is your editing that stands out. Subscribed to see more.
@gregburgin7098
@gregburgin7098 4 ай бұрын
I came to think of the movie as a story about a guy caretaking at a hotel who was writing a story about a guy caretaking at the hotel. That seems to explain the 2 Gradys (the one he was told about and the one we met), continuity and bizarre transitions, etc.
@joelnicholson
@joelnicholson Ай бұрын
The single greatest video on The Shining I have seen on KZfaq - both in terms of content but also composition.
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks Ай бұрын
Thanks...if only the sound wasn't so shitty. That will annoy me to my grave.
@joelnicholson
@joelnicholson Ай бұрын
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks I assumed that was a subliminal message about you confessing to abducting Jimmy Hoffa. I'm making a 7-hour video on KZfaq about it right now ... (I didn't notice anything awry about the sound quality)
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