xQc Is Stealing Content (and So Are Most Reaction Streamers)

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@LegalEagle 8 ай бұрын

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@randomguy1769 8 ай бұрын

@LegalEagle It's been a while since you did a "laws broken" episode. Maybe you'd like to tackle "The Truman Show," starring Jim Carrey? I eyeballed false imprisonment, unsafe working enviroment, and unlawful surveillance and wiretapping, and I'm not even a lawyer!

@ViableGibbon 8 ай бұрын

Please Do A JFK 1991 Film Review on it's LAW ACCRUCY? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@buttercxpdraws8101 8 ай бұрын

Could you please cover the legal aspects of the Illuminaughtii saga and explain the concept of indentured servitude in relation to her treatment of OzMedia? ✌️💕🌻

@supermarioplushes2517 8 ай бұрын

@cutiefarty 8 ай бұрын

maybe a show review?

@lumdythelump 8 ай бұрын

Literally the phrase "my fans would be bored I talked too much" is indicating that he's using the video that they're watching as entertainment and not fair use.

@trikitrikitriki 8 ай бұрын

And he's admitting that he's boring

@bamers404 8 ай бұрын

and still getting money from it

@avroday949 8 ай бұрын

"When I make my own content I make less money, so I have to steal"

@santanu5892 8 ай бұрын

It's not just the video, it's watching with the streamer and his chat that makes it fun. The video has nothing to do with it. It's same like watching a movie alone vs. Watching with your friends.

@KindredBrujah 8 ай бұрын

@@santanu5892 Sure, but if you're watching a movie (legally) then you generally paid some money for it in some form of another.

@Bobbybobbeh 8 ай бұрын

You didn’t have to cast viscous mockery on xqc on calling him a gibbering mouther, but you did, and I applaud you for that.

@archmage_of_the_aether 8 ай бұрын

Vicious mockery ≠ viscous mockery

@Bobbybobbeh 8 ай бұрын

@@archmage_of_the_aether It was thick with mockery.

@philipdixon9088 8 ай бұрын

Viscous Mockery. Cantrip, Range 5ft The target takes 1d4 Psychic damage and is Restrained until the end of its next turn, damage increases to 2d4/3d4/4d4 at appropriate level. You barrage the target with a tirade of point blank insults resulting in them being covered in spittle and being so shocked they cannot move from where they stand.

@ThatReplyGuy 8 ай бұрын

@@philipdixon9088Thanks, gonna totally homebrew this!

@Joe90h 8 ай бұрын

@@philipdixon9088 Sounds more like a Karentrip to me.

@yarion4774 8 ай бұрын

Hasan's defence of "90% percent of content creators don't mind." Just doesn't hold any water. You can't infer consent by an imaginary vote of majority.

@_blank-_ 8 ай бұрын

Hmmm... a commie living off the work of others, how surprising.

@drownedharbour 8 ай бұрын

Right? Like, even assuming that pulled-out-of-arse statistic was reflective of reality, that hasn’t really got any bearing on whether or not what he’s doing actually falls within free use or doesn’t. Like, I reckon you could get a whole bunch of people to agree that having to drive the speed limit is a pain and nobody minds speeding in their town, but that doesn’t mean speed limits cease to exist. Never mind that this would still beg the question, what of the 10% that allegedly do mind, then? Even if 90% of people surveyed agreed that it was totally alright to eat Bob’s lunch, that doesn’t mean Bob suddenly has lost the right to his lunch. And thats never mind the fact that I find it quite difficult to believe that 90% of everyone whose work has been used in this way are truly entirely unbothered. I mean, I know there are certainly still finer points and more subtle considerations to be examined in such cases but it just seems the fellow has got little but some very faulty logic to speak for his actions.

@tiffanysandmeier4753 8 ай бұрын

@@drownedharbourI also feel like that 90% statistic was made up on the spot. People seem to think, "It is better to ask forgiveness than permission." That is not true in fair use cases.

@lemiureelemiur3997 8 ай бұрын

@drownedharbour it's shambles all the way down too. A voluntary cross platform opt-in revenue sharing mechanism could "easily" be implemented by YT... But that further antagonizes their position in relation to streaming platforms, because they'll want to factor all the viewers, and streaming platforms don't like that. Forcing it would likely result in less exposure of YT by a considerable amount, so they havent done much other than leaving it to creators to take it to court (The music industry is probably laughing right now). Creators on YT are just hostages, unable to move the Issue forward because it's against YT interest. So in reality they're stuck under the repressive rule of "reputation", because big name Creators/Streamers can credibly threaten their chance of success, maliciously, if "small fish" were to complain about react content. The smaller you are, the worse it is. Not to mention youtube already has its own issues with small creators getting claims / struck by shameless reuploaders, or outright 1:1 frame by frame copied by established creators. Until this gets solved it's eat or be eaten, which love or hate the one in question, really large creators excell at. Crowd pleasing in their bread and butter, and lamborghini.

@harrysiddall3392 8 ай бұрын

Even if they do, that doesn't give you the rights to the other 10% lmao

@benoitverret6722 8 ай бұрын

Hey, don't compare xQC to your dog, your dog is way more comprehensible and a good boy.

@jenniferstine8567 8 ай бұрын

My cats loved to meow back at TV shows. They had great timing for it. It was a lot of fun watching things with them. It was like being on Mystery Science Theater 3000. I'd a cat on either side, quips coming from each of us, and a large collection of B movies. You're right. That's a good dog, especially compared to that guy.

@Just_Pradyun 7 ай бұрын

@@jenniferstine8567 congrats. your cat is more literate and compassionate than XQC

@Stettafire 6 ай бұрын

I thought the dog was a good girl not a good boy? Regardless though your point still stands!

@Ole_Rasmussen 8 ай бұрын

"Chat gets bored if I'm the one producing the content on my stream" he admits he can not maintain an audience on his own

@andrewauchter7759 8 ай бұрын

Yeah... I'm not sure that was the brilliant defense xQc thought it was.

@N1ght_walk 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, and like Legal Said, so it every other streamer and reactor, even the popular ones.

@AstraFulminous 8 ай бұрын

I see everyone talking shit. But doubt everyone would apply the complete burden of laws about infringement to some of their favorite KZfaqrs also fairly. Technically we could all do better and to be honest I have been waiting for it.

@Zalzany 8 ай бұрын

Exactly he is admitting people follow him for the free movies and what not not his content he "adds" lol

@chrisray1567 8 ай бұрын

Yea, it’s evidence that his viewers are watching the copyrighted content and not his “commentary”. His viewers probably find his reactions to be distracting.

@6thwilbury2331 8 ай бұрын

Devin: "You can't just describe what you're seeing, and call it commentary." Sssniperwolf: ...

@SilverLily 8 ай бұрын

SURPRISED I'm not seeing more comments about that given JJJackfilms vs SSSniperwolf has been ongoing for a while (not familiar with xQc so idk much about this particular incident) and being transformative is the whole argument Jack is making.

@CharlieBrown20XD6 8 ай бұрын

Just put a cardboard cut out of yourself going "dude! Cringe. The drip." Over and over again on a loop

@kevinkorenke3569 8 ай бұрын

She was the original queen of the "economy of nothing" that the internet is full of now.

@chocolatMouse 8 ай бұрын

Oh, it's worse than that. Whenever you watch her and she has her glasses on, you can actually see that in the glasses' reflection, she's looking at a white screen and her microphone. The original video isn't even played. She's pretending to react: if XQC is level 0, than hers is -10.

@minimi1 8 ай бұрын

@@chocolatMouse damn, she used to fake play Call of Duty. now she can't even watch tiktoks for the first time

@mohaimenmitul8722 8 ай бұрын

How XQC became this popular will forever remain one of the world's greatest mysteries for me.

@TheSilentWalkerz 8 ай бұрын

Nah not really, his audience are mostly kids

@mohaimenmitul8722 8 ай бұрын

@@TheSilentWalkerz dude, thats even worse.

@morpheus1678 8 ай бұрын

Obviously from ow days

@LostStarzOfTheSky 8 ай бұрын

Overwatch inflicted him upon us

@AdikMusicOfficialTM 7 ай бұрын

xqc funny momment & overwatch esports

@LunaManar 7 ай бұрын

Back when tumblr was more of a thing, I ran a fandom blog for a video game I like and reposted fan artwork on a regular basis. I asked every single artist for permission to post their work. If I couldn't source the artist, I didn't repost it. If the artist didn't speak fluent English, I looked up some copy/paste scripts and used those to ask (usually including a machine-translated notation of my own that apologized if the wording/grammar sucked). Out of literal thousands of images I posted to my blog, ONE artist gave me a polite 'no,' and two gave me specific requirements I had to follow in order to repost, which I did of course. 99.999999999% of them, though, were *just happy I gave enough of a crap to ask,* and were more than happy to let me do so, often with a request for a link so they could see it on the blog and even so they could follow it. Asking permission isn't just ethical and a good idea, it will net you new followers and even make you some long-term friends. It might be one of the best ways of getting to know cool people, at least in my (admittedly small-time) experience.

@amazingadrien 4 ай бұрын

glad to finally see someone say when tumblr was "more of a thing" and not "back when tumblr existed" because tumblr is in fact alive and well

@SomeKindaSpy 3 ай бұрын

@@amazingadrien it's alive, sure. Well, though? Ehhhh debatable. At least it's on the upswing anyway.

@thesocialmediagame 3 ай бұрын

To be fair, graphic artists are of the most generous kind. If you try the same with musicians or producers... eeeh wll it goes a lil different

@SamWal 8 ай бұрын

I can't wait to see xQc react to this video and leave it playing for 30 minutes while he's in the toilet. Peak reaction

@MrLunithy 8 ай бұрын

leave it playing for 30 minutes while he's in the toilet losing the best part of himself for the day.

@emmy_d_dev100 8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@jacksonwilliams5399 8 ай бұрын

He isn’t above that either, he did the same thing for the meat canyon video that mocked him.

@ReaperEOD 8 ай бұрын

Sorry I missed your comment while on the golden throne, hope everyone enjoyed your comment I provided.

@AlinaAniretake 8 ай бұрын

Isn't that's what Hassan is doing, though?

@bigchez2855 8 ай бұрын

"If I talk, chat gets bored" is the most hilarious self own from the most unhilarous unselfaware guy I've heard in years

@MittensZora 8 ай бұрын

Exactly lol, essentially he clearly stated that no one is here for him, just the video

@legofellow120 8 ай бұрын

Clueless

@nothankyou6840 8 ай бұрын

I didn't think of it that way at first, but you're totally right

@dillonhounshell9786 8 ай бұрын

And if someone sues him, they will absolutely use that against him.

@gregorymorse8423 8 ай бұрын

He knows hes wrong and plays it off and doesnt care. He knows the copyright laws better than anyone. He has plenty of lawyers and management working for him. Its merely an act hes playing but totally a bad attitude thats unfair to small creators

@harrysiddall3392 8 ай бұрын

That judge did such a thorough and comprehensive job breaking down exactly why some reaction content is absolutely fair use, and why some isn't. Hats off to her, shes an absolute chad.

@KafeinBE 8 ай бұрын

Yeah I was surprised that this judge seemed very aware of the larger cultural context of reaction content.

@justiceplay3518 7 ай бұрын

@@KafeinBEcultural context? Excuse me, what the actual hell are you talking about?

@Skinny2Shredded 7 ай бұрын

@@justiceplay3518delusional people make stuff up and it’s hilarious 😂

@aguywithalotofopinions412 7 ай бұрын

@@justiceplay3518 I think they meant what people in general think of reaction content, since many judges tend to be out of touch

@turbochargedfilms 7 ай бұрын

@@justiceplay3518the context behind reaction content that explains how it stems from, exists within, and influences the larger culture surrounding it (examples in this case would be internet culture, twitch culture, western culture, whatever the hell qualifies as culture that influenced xQc, etc.) Hope that helps

@1001ant1001 8 ай бұрын

On the other hand it is completely frustrating when obvious fair use of copyright material (e.g. fragments of Disney cartoons in an hour long lecture) will resolve in DMCA strikes without any second thought or consideration :(

@CyberneticCupcake2 8 ай бұрын

If/when LegalEagle can do more on Fair Use/Transformative Use (probably on Nebula), he absolutely should cover harmful and potentially fraudulent copyright strikes on popular streaming sites.

@FourCogs 8 ай бұрын

That's not a spicy ad revenue generating topic sadly.

@SkiDaBird 8 ай бұрын

@YonMai I think it is though. A lot of YT viewers are aware of how complex and easily exploited DMCA is. We all want better, fairer, content.

@mathsalot8099 8 ай бұрын

From what I've heard, Disney is not one of the entities doing most of the copyright strikes/claims (suprisingly.) It's Warner Bros and Universal.

@chaoticautistic7113 6 ай бұрын

@CyberneticCupcake2 I think he already did this, or something similar to this.

@SebastianTorres-uz6jq 8 ай бұрын

Imagine going to court and the judge ruling that you have no case cause the defendant called you the king of cringe

@abacus7087 8 ай бұрын

Your honour the defendant called my client the “king of cringe” and mocked his parkour ability as a result my client suffered severe emotional and mental trauma.

@xenonnboy 8 ай бұрын

"objection your honor, as we have shown in exhibit F2, my client is definitively based."

@Benri05 8 ай бұрын

These kinds of people really loves to waste the normal working people's tax money for mundane shit like these.

@herculesmwp7983 8 ай бұрын

@@xenonnboyobjection hearsay

@brettrossi034 8 ай бұрын

Either that, or the judges brain malfunctioned due to lack of understanding of what xqc even said

@Salted_Fysh 8 ай бұрын

Hot legal take: When a livestreamer leaves for a toilet break, they may employ the infamous "pause video" button while they are aware.

@CraftyVegan 8 ай бұрын

For a lunch break, you can pause while you go and prepare your meal and then you can get even more views while eating it on stream because you can add the “muckbang” tag to it 🤔

@victoriazero8869 8 ай бұрын

Especially for people at Twitch, that sounds like perfect moment for an ad break

@Secretlyanothername 8 ай бұрын

In British English they would call his leaving it running "taking the piss".

@morganseppy5180 8 ай бұрын

Oh no. Hassan explIned very well. Chat can't handle being left alone. And he can't be expected to just not eat... do you expect him to DIE??

@Salted_Fysh 8 ай бұрын

@@morganseppy5180 yes

@legateelizabeth 8 ай бұрын

If I had a nickel for everytime a Felix became the biggest name on a video streaming platform based entirely on an audience of 12 year olds, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice.

@wilbo_baggins 8 ай бұрын

I never realised this till now.

@LeonardoStupidKenway 8 ай бұрын

Whos the second one?

@wilbo_baggins 8 ай бұрын

@@LeonardoStupidKenway both PewDiePie and xqc real names are felix

@rabonour 8 ай бұрын

What really bothers me about this is that tons of creators do things that really should be considered fair use but get dinged because KZfaq is so overly aggressive about DMCA.

@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 7 ай бұрын

Don't forget about KZfaq's incredibly "efficient" DMCA bans which allow even week-old accounts to report videos that they can claim violate the DMCA.

@laplongejunior 7 ай бұрын

Not about DMCA, about rightholders. The whole point of having accord with rightholders to participate in ContentID is to bypass DMCA entirely, by having complaints fed into a system that favors rightholders and the platform at the expense of the creators.

@alexanderbruwer9363 7 ай бұрын

Except when it's their golden babies like Sssniperwolf

@ianmacdonald9201 2 ай бұрын

It's better to err on the side of caution as a platform. The alternative is theft on a grand scale.

@quittison 8 ай бұрын

"... a problem near and dear to my heart and, more importantly, my wallet." Yup, he's a lawyer alright.

@TheEDFLegacy 8 ай бұрын

😅

@i-v-l9335 8 ай бұрын

There was never any doubt if his lawyer profession. At least this lawyer is funny, and mostly helpful.

@helloyes2288 8 ай бұрын

lmao

@Daddy-Samy 8 ай бұрын

@@i-v-l9335 You missed the joke

@chrispyy99 8 ай бұрын

@@i-v-l9335 its a joke bro, this guy clearly appreciates him just as much as us!

@TheNN 8 ай бұрын

A thousand and one red flags went up in my brain as soon as I heard xQc and 'exposure' for vid makers. As someone who has done commissions and work for people in the past, the second I hear "I'll give you exposure for your work" any sympathy or positive thoughts I had about him went completely out the window. 'Exposure' is just a buzzword to avoid having to pay people their due.

@suchnothing 8 ай бұрын

Hearing that always reminds me of that article by The Onion titled "Artist paid in, dies from, exposure"

@LunaticTheCat 8 ай бұрын

As a musician myself, nothing infuriates me more than people/venues offering an artist or creator "exposure" instead of paying them. So many venues try to pull this shit. Exposure can't pay the bill mf'ers!

@christopherjones7191 8 ай бұрын

You mean you can't eat exposure or pay bills with exposure? Have you asked the IRS if they accept exposure?

@seedmole 8 ай бұрын

It's also a harmful form of exposure. It says "this person works for free, don't ever pay them." -- If you really want to give someone "exposure" then pay them the market rate for their services and let them use you as a wage/employment reference.

@lluewhyn 8 ай бұрын

Great, the person can get exposure to a variety of people who will also hire them for free as well? What a deal!

@happycamperds9917 8 ай бұрын

The prototype for the "reaction channel" was Mystery Science Theather 3000, and even they paid royalties to the obscure Sci-Fi films they commentated on.

@grahamstrouse1165 4 ай бұрын

That was a little different. MST3K was a proper television show that provided commentary on the unabridged versions of the movies they made fun of. Toho’s pretty chill when it comes to licensing Godzilla & they know the benefit of exposure better than anyone, but I reckon why they’d want a cut when Joel & the Robots decided it was time to spend two hours making fun of & dissecting the artistic genius of “All Monsters Attack.” It definitely was a win-win, though. 🙂

@JBBost 8 ай бұрын

If I knew I coulda filmed myself watching the internet during my meth use days and became a millionaire, I'd be xQc right now

@apexnext 5 ай бұрын

You'd be a billionaire, that would be wild. 😂

@thelusogerman3021 8 ай бұрын

I love how "the king of cringetube" is actually written in a full on official court document somewhere

@keystohellanddeath 8 ай бұрын

There was a robbery Supreme Court of Virginia case that has the phrase "a hoax perpetrated by finger" in it. It makes me laugh every time because of Mike Ehrmantraut. The case is Commonwealth v. Barney.

@daveabbymangampoalano655 7 ай бұрын

and a precedent at that lmao

@noapld9 8 ай бұрын

I have to applaud the person who wrote the captions for this video for the effort they had to put to translate xQc's uncoherent noises for the rest of us

@generatoralignmentdevalue 8 ай бұрын

Are you sure an actual human put "Chad" in place of "chat" that many times?

@dhhayden 8 ай бұрын

@@generatoralignmentdevaluexQc calls his chat “Chad” and a few other streamers do as well. It’s a meme.

@tetrisdood 8 ай бұрын

"incoherent"

@justiceplay3518 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, and that’s why we should give the editors and subtitlers a huge raise while they tried to comprehend the speech of this total degenerate. Never liked XqC, never liked Asmongold and other reactor content creators. Which seems fair, since they A) violate copyright infringement B) make actual profit off of it C) not actually putting the original name(link I mean) in the description/comments, whatever. The reaction content is legit just contaminated wasteland where streamers/KZfaqrs land in either desperation or in hopes of getting a rip-off of the original video.

@tobylegion6913 8 ай бұрын

@@justiceplay3518 agreed... but what is 'violate copyright infringement'?

@randomrandom450 8 ай бұрын

As a french canadian from Quebec. I always find it funny that "xQc" is so big, since adding "Qc" at the end of an online nickname is basically a Quebec meme of a 13yo wanting to tell other people from Quebec that they are from Quebec, combining with "x" makes it the epitome of cringe 13yo nickname. I also wondered how well his spoken english was and since I don't really watched him, I assumed it was pretty good, but seems like I was wrong haha So I really don't get it, I wish I could root for my homeboy, but I really can't.

@HappyBeezerStudios 8 ай бұрын

deconstructed the nick is really just the cringy 13 yo name. The one all of us did when we were young because we thought it sounded cool. Most people move away from that at some point, but it seems like some are forever immature.

@andresmartinezramos7513 8 ай бұрын

@@HappyBeezerStudiosHe does have a brand around it, so I think he might get a pass

@wishusknight3009 8 ай бұрын

He hasn't matured passed that of an obnoxious 13 year old. So it is kind of fitting.

@vuri3798 7 ай бұрын

Oh man, if you knew.... His english is actually much better than his french 😂

@RecordToDeathToBoredom 7 ай бұрын

@@HappyBeezerStudios That's just a matter of his branding being successful. If he had never took off, he'd have begun his maturity journey. Basically, the people play a part in his 13 yr old mindset. There's nothing we can do about these people because they are just the result of a very low standard upbringing. But xQc can just keep taking legal blows and the laws can update so people like him can't just steal content.

@iankester-haney3315 8 ай бұрын

Don't forget, He has the option of pausing and skipping parts of the video. Even on a livestream the streamer can pause playback while taking care of personal needs off camera.

@kazedfrench 8 ай бұрын

xQc getting paid millions to sit in his chair and watch videos is the most confusing thing I've ever seen

@VinnieG- 8 ай бұрын

Really? There's a chinese girl that only pushes her face into slices of bread, and she raking in the money as well.

@landonfolken03 8 ай бұрын

Not to mention yelling a bunch of barely intelligible things. It's really sad that he's one of the top paid YTers. Hopefully the next generation is smarter.

@MushookieMan 8 ай бұрын

It's because children have buying power. So advertisers will pay for the most inane shit you've ever seen.

@billieeisenhower406 8 ай бұрын

Capitalism is clearly functional and rewards those who work the hardest.

@barbiincognito13 8 ай бұрын

@@MushookieManthat doesn't apply and make zero sense here.

@antarchy1 8 ай бұрын

If you talk to your chat and they get bored, that means you're boring.

@ultimateskillchain 8 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing! That was quite the self-own

@baydiac 8 ай бұрын

He literally admitted that he has no cult of personality. Usually streamers like him use the defense “well my audience was excited to see my unscripted reaction to this video I’d never seen before”, but he outright said his viewers are only there to watch the video he’s reacting to and have no interest in xQc himself whatsoever. Yikes.

@KallieExperiments 8 ай бұрын

Hear hear

@ross-carlson 8 ай бұрын

EXACTLY my thoughts.

@TheEmbessyNetwork 8 ай бұрын

Say it louder for the people in the back!!

@SunniestAutumn 7 ай бұрын

There's suddenly an unexpected demand for a follow-up, potentially including side-topics like doxing.

@bobbycrosby9765 8 ай бұрын

"Chat gets bored when I talk" isn't the defense he thinks it is.

@SirWilliamDoof 8 ай бұрын

Really wasn't expecting a lawyer to drop "gibbering mouther " as an insult. It's a good day.

@peterhurst6782 8 ай бұрын

Kinda makes me want to make an abberation streamer as a villain in a campaign. Probably not a gibbering mouther, but a mindflayer that does non-reaction content of ceremorphosis

@Krypto121 8 ай бұрын

Lawyers are savants of the English language so it's not surprising one would use a term like that when it's appropriate.

@ImLostForever 8 ай бұрын

Because he is... a lot of his fan base would be the same

@bisin87 8 ай бұрын

My guy gave me whiplash from that brutal, tremendously nerdy, burn!

@rkstevenson5448 8 ай бұрын

@@Krypto121 It's a creature from D&D.

@Thenormies 8 ай бұрын

Your editor somehow found the 1 clip of us NOT talking over dialogue and blabbing which is so often what we’re ridiculed for XD. Great insightful video about fair use. I hope it’s okay if I give some context in regard to how we go about reactions: In the clip of us at 2:10 we’re reacting to the fan-made Dragonball Z Abridged series. The series itself is one that has often battled copyright fair use issues with Toei animation. The creators of DBZA, TeamFourStar, have expressed that they enjoy watching reactions to their fan-made parodies. Our reaction videos to them are 4 years old and none of them are monetized. We do our best to abide by all four tenants of fair use that was discussed in this video. We are often ridiculed for not showing the entire content piece or speaking our commentary over the dialogue of the videos we watch. We never show the full content of what we watch unless given express permission like from Rooster Teeth for RWBY, or public fan-made series like DBZA. It is VERY important to us that everyone supports the official releases and not use our reactions as a substitute for the real video. Our “uncut” watchalong offerings on Patreon do not include a full repurposing of the episodes we watch but rather a countdown timer for our viewers to sync their own copy to react along with us. Hope this sheds some light or gives nuance to other KZfaq reactors similar to us. There’s definitely a proper way to go about reactions and it’s a thing called ‘editing’ that most people just seem to not care to do.

@aryanram02 8 ай бұрын

it was unfair of them to include your clip. i checked out your channel and saw the one peice video, most of it is just you guys talking and discussing about it after showing a small portion of the original content for context. 100% approved and imo transformative content. cheers mate! another playlist from youtube is the "thats cringe" series by cody ko and noel miller, they did similar stuff, showed bits and peices of og video for context and rest was comedy, in your case it was comments and discussion, once again good on yall for being ethical and cheers!

@Yeff365 8 ай бұрын

Reacting videos are in general not "transformative" you're legit leeching of the original work because you're not putting a spin on it, you're just putting your face and adding 20s-30s commentary.

@Tweek08 8 ай бұрын

@@Yeff365It’s not 20-30 second commentary though for those that are attempting to do right by fair use. It’s several minutes sometimes hours of commentary.

@GrizzledBear7 8 ай бұрын

Of all the clips he found, the one with silence

@Parenegade 8 ай бұрын

@@Yeff365says who? You? Crazy you say that when the people who actually create the films and shows they react to think it is and embrace them wholeheartedly.

@katrinabryce 8 ай бұрын

Another way I've seen some streamers approach it is to tell their viewers to go watch the video themselves on a different browser window, then their own stream is just their reactions without any of the other party's content.

@johndododoe1411 6 ай бұрын

That's another legal way, though I wonder if Oracle v. Google negated that when Google Android's main use of Oracle Java was to tell every Android developer to go get the original in order to do anything!

@Jakers457 8 ай бұрын

I want to meet a reaction streamer in the wild, when they're not in camera, just to see how empty of a person they are

@avroday949 8 ай бұрын

Watch out, they'd record you and silently make faces to it between bathroom breaks

@tanjeeschuan4999 8 ай бұрын

@Valsorayu 8 ай бұрын

Careful people might randomly start saying he's not a copyright lawyer. Also, Hell yeah!

@Jasonhoods 8 ай бұрын

@@Valsorayulol what?

@bradenculver7457 8 ай бұрын

⁠@@Valsorayuhe’s not though? He’s probably done a lot of copyright law and is an expert, but he was a business lawyer iirc, not a lawyer specializing in copyright.

@Joe90h 8 ай бұрын

@@bradenculver7457 Basically this? I swear there have been videos where LegalEagle has explicitly said he isn't a copyright lawyer. I'm sure he knows his stuff, and it doesn't take a scholar in the field to see xQc is infringing on copyrights, though.

@bradenculver7457 8 ай бұрын

@@Joe90h maybe you’re confusing him with Leonard French from lawful masses who is explicitly a copyright lawyer. I’m fairly confident legal eagle was a corporate lawyer, which inevitably delves into copyright law, but is not limited to it.

@kingdrofd588 8 ай бұрын

Hasan is lying his sorry arse when he says 90% don't mind They do, in fact mind very much, but as history showed, if they ever tried to defend themselves, they would get hate from fans of popular streamers, it's genuinely appalling, getting robbed while you can't do much about it. You should really watch DarkViperAu's "Why react content harms everyone" series, it's very well made and covers some areas I wouldn't think as issues if I never watched him.

@TeoBranzell 8 ай бұрын

Shoutout to DarkViper for first raising the awareness of how harmful react content is for the original content creators.

@Justacheese 8 ай бұрын

I don't watch that guy, but I agree that he did the right thing.

@newgate-zerohour 8 ай бұрын

I've been following this ever since Jay Exci did a video about it and got into some hot water with Hassan Abi over it. Love to see Leagle Eagle taking part

@WoFDarkNewton 8 ай бұрын

Jacksfilms was on this topic YEARS earlier

@thebigsam 7 ай бұрын

@@WoFDarkNewton Did Jack actually ever talk about legal implications and how this stuff affects the platform? He did call out individuals, but he never put a spotlight on general reaction content. I might be wrong tho

@WoFDarkNewton 7 ай бұрын

@@thebigsam Talking about legal implications isn’t necessarily Jack’s strong suit 😂 he prefers to address things with sarcasm and sass, which he certainly did. He definitely highlighted certain individuals, but I think it was more about the general problem. Someone covered the legal aspect in much more detail at the time, but I don’t recall who

@FurtherReadingTV 8 ай бұрын

I can't get over the phrase "watching a video TO my viewers". It's so bizarre and reveals a lot about xQc's warped mindset.

@sleepysera 8 ай бұрын

Reminds me of Ken in the Barbie movie "playing the guitar at you" 😂 I mean I assume his native language is French so it might be an honest mistake but it sounds exactly like the mindset he is exhibiting.

@the_undead 8 ай бұрын

@@sleepyseraI have not watched any of his content, but with what I have gathered from people talking about it online, this is not a translation error and it is 100% deliberate, he knows exactly what he's doing and he is making a half assed attempt at covering his tracks. He's just forgetting that footprints in the mud is not always the way a tracker will find you, and in fact, a lot of the time trackers will completely ignore footprints in the mud because that's very easy to fake

@BillehBobJoe 8 ай бұрын

@@sleepyseraI thought a problem of non native English speakers is being too literal hah

@sjs9698 8 ай бұрын

@@Razorally if anyone's coping & seething here... anyway: keyword is 'react', which obviously doesn't mean sit & watch or leave the room

@jeuce9304 8 ай бұрын

@@sjs9698have you seen a reaction from xqc where he doesn't say a single word during the video? Didn't think so. So is there a words per minute you have to say to distinguish reacting to something from just watching it?

@JasonFightsCrime 8 ай бұрын

It isn't hard to ask. I asked LegalEagle for permission to use a video clip for a class on rulemaking. He responded promptly, and he was fine with my proposed use.

@floofzykitty5072 8 ай бұрын

I believe most countries actually have exceptions for using IP without permission in educational settings, specifically so that teachers don't have to go to the effort of trying to contact all their sources. It is still nice to ask though.

@craenor 8 ай бұрын

I saw some fantastic art in a comic that I thought my daughter would love, and I loved. I contacted the artist and requested permission to make two t-shirts, one time, in two sizes, so my daughter and I could each have a shirt with that comic on it. The artist was thankful I asked and within my very specific limitations, provided their permission.

@JasonFightsCrime 8 ай бұрын

@@floofzykitty5072 When I was the instructor at police academy, I tried explaining that to the leadership. They wanted permission, and it was kind of ingrained in me.

@hockypockies 8 ай бұрын

@@craenor aww, that's nice! glad the artist was okay with it!!

@isaiahfreeman 8 ай бұрын

No one would have cared if you used it without asking i promise

@sunalwaysshinesonTVs 8 ай бұрын

I recall hearing something about famous people being frozen at the maturity level of when they first became famous. Explaining fair-use to XQC is like explaining to a 2yr old why they're not allowed to eat the whole box of cookies. That said, I suppose one way to approach the push-back is let the 2yr old eat the whole box then live with the consequences while rubbing it in their face.

@johndododoe1411 6 ай бұрын

Also explains Michael Jackson's behavior much better than the accusation he was doing those things to lure in underage victims .

@Hieillua 8 ай бұрын

Lol, I've tried explaining fair use once in a reaction channel comment section. Got torpedoed by fanboys of that channel telling I didn't know I was talking about. Even the owners of that channel liked comments that said that nonsense to me. Now they are one of the clips being used as an example in this video. Amazingly poetic for me.

@grimsdol4665 8 ай бұрын

"you can't describe what you see and call it commentary" SSSniperwolf is sweating rn

@nopesiedaisy 8 ай бұрын

I would love to see Legal Eagle comment on Jacksfilms' current crusade against SssniperWolf

@KiwyGal 8 ай бұрын

"Bro has a bag !"

@jordanstark5924 8 ай бұрын

*blank screen intensifies*

@mutantraze3681 8 ай бұрын

she’s not even seeing it. She reads a script and the video is added in post. It’s hilarious how dumb people are to watch something that fake and cant tell

@lssjgaming1599 8 ай бұрын

This is how they be making the sidewalks

@Qu4resma 8 ай бұрын

Hearing him reffer to xqc as a "gibbering mouther" was the most perfect thing i've heard in my life and the poor d&d monster didn't deserve it XD

@MeppyMan 8 ай бұрын

I literally read your comment as he said that. My head glitched lol.

@Taintedgod771 8 ай бұрын

I'm writing him into a D&D campaign as kind of vampire.

@NoriMori1992 8 ай бұрын

It's just a shame he mispronounced "gibbering" 😆

@ladyvelkor 8 ай бұрын

@@NoriMori1992 the way most people mispronounce "gif" ;)

@savanabrown5161 8 ай бұрын

Did we just learn that he plays DnD!?

@TechOutAdam 8 ай бұрын

FINALLY someone is addressing this issue. I'd expect nothing less from LegalEagle.

@Thunterise 8 ай бұрын

Haha what do you mean finally? Lots of people have talked about this my man.

@NiLA_l0l 6 ай бұрын

Yes, for example @DarkViperAU he has a very good series about this topic, well explained and very interesting.

@smithrockford-dv1nb 8 ай бұрын

Wow, seeing DarkViper's efforts succeed in inspiring you to make this make me tear up a little. May there be justice one day.

@stancal9249 8 ай бұрын

I do love the idea that some people think "there's no way I can do this, or at least do this profitably, without it being illegal" is a defense for illegal conduct 😂😂

@LoveOverwhelming 8 ай бұрын

I mean, it's the reason small businesses often short wages to their employees, and why we won't raise min wage. Wage theft is the biggest form of theft in america

@Alexander_Grant 8 ай бұрын

@@LoveOverwhelming The worst part is that it's not just culturally accepted, but culturally promoted. Look at the backlash to the strikes that have been going on, it's insane that so many people are so willing to argue against what would be beneficial for them. That and really all of the work culture with the myth that working hard leads to anything is so wild to me.

@LoveOverwhelming 8 ай бұрын

@@Alexander_Grant agreed

@ratholin 8 ай бұрын

Yeah he did bring up Linus at the end who basically said "I lie about products because it'd cost money to tell the truth."

@SeeNo3vil98 8 ай бұрын

@@Alexander_GrantI don’t believe people are against the reason for strikes at least I’m not I personally disagree with how they do strikes like I get not going into work because of union strikes but when they block roads and get in the way of public areas and get shops and schools and doctors closed like normal people are being affected and can’t access services because the people that promised to serve us aren’t getting paid enough there’s better ways to strike than stopping everyone else from doing what they need to survive

@Steelmage99 8 ай бұрын

I'll give it a shot at predicting xQc's reaction; "He (LegalEagle) is just a hater" "He is envious of my success" "He does it too!" "He just stole _my_ content, by making this video" "He doesn't understand copyright law" "He just cherrypicked some of my videos" "I boost the content creators by watching their videos" " _[rambling incoherent gibberish]_ " Did I miss any?

@LocalGuardsman 8 ай бұрын

He leaves to go to the toilet mid “reaction”.

@clorkmagnus 8 ай бұрын

I doubt it. Unless his team went full brain rot like his chat, he should shut up and ignore this one. Making this any bigger of a drama will potentially have long lasting consequences on his career. Just like Asmong who is also a reaction streamer for the most part, he said sometimes you just need to shut up and let it go.

@jordanstark5924 8 ай бұрын

Could've just skipped to the last one. I don't think I've ever understood a single word this manlet has uttered

@samoth5161 8 ай бұрын

Ignore the video and make an indirect comment or tweet about "haters"

@cericat 8 ай бұрын

Loud obnoxious eating. "He's suing me."

@WKogut 8 ай бұрын

Not mentioning DarkViperAU in this whole conversation is a travesty. He basically started the whole discussion

@merchillio 8 ай бұрын

A conversation between you and DarkViperAU on the topic would be interesting. He’s not a lawyer but he has been fighting that kind of react videos for a long time.

@fredgerd5811 8 ай бұрын

I wonder how many people realize that Weird Al, the king of music parody actially asks permission for every parody he does. He probably doesnt have to, because he could probably defend all his work as fair use, but he makes the call anyway because its the polite thing to do and it saves him potential headaches down the road.

@darkwaveatheist 8 ай бұрын

Better still, some artists actually ask him to take the piss out of them. That's respect.

@tatkkyo9911 8 ай бұрын

Your correct that he dosnt have to. Al has always preferred to ask though

@andrewphilos 8 ай бұрын

I've heard a slightly different argument: the ones that comment directly on the original song (like "You're Pitiful" instead of "You're Beautiful") are probably okay, but the ones that are the same song with different, silly lyrics (Like "The Rye or the Kaiser" instead of "The Eye of the Tiger") are probably not fair use. But you're correct that, either way, he does get permission, which is good on him.

@noatrope 8 ай бұрын

@@andrewphilosOr, as Vihart put it once, "in the United States, we have the constitutional right to make fun of people".

@dracoargentum9783 8 ай бұрын

Well, usually saves him headaches, looking at YOU Coolio…

@reprovedcandy 8 ай бұрын

I'm so glad I managed to get through the first 26 years of my life without knowing this xQc person existed.

@Beegrene 8 ай бұрын

You have lived a more fulfilling life than some, that's for sure.

@clintmcbride7830 8 ай бұрын

I played Overwatch and in the early days I watched a lot of guide and gameplay videos. xQc was always being mentioned and his clips shown........ and he was just as annoying then. But at least he was less obnoxious since he wasn't as big then. Never surprises me what fame can do to an idiot.

@KyuuTomoyaki 8 ай бұрын

Same here. This is the first time I've ever heard of the guy. Kinda wish I never had, but Devin's content is worth watching.

@wizarddragon 8 ай бұрын

I cant grasp how he is so popular.

@SimuLord 8 ай бұрын

@@wizarddragon As a 46-year-old, I can tell you exactly why. Imagine the dumbest kid in school when you were growing up. That's the average today. Or, if there was an intervening generation (as with me as a Gen-Xer watching Gen-Z), the dumbest Gen-Xer in my school would've been an average Millennial, and the dumbest Millennial (who was considered the dumbest "how are they famous?" person on the Internet in 2007?) is the average for Gen-Z. And now the dumbest Gen-Z is going to be the average for the next generation. Eventually your average public school class is going to be basically the people on the spaceship in WALL-E.

@Nickayz2 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for this. THIS is what I would call a reaction video about someone. But unfortunately, xQc's audience is too young and too undemanding to reflect on his videos.

@olympic-gradelurker 7 ай бұрын

Kinda like how JacksFilms has been criticizing Sssniperwolf for just sitting there like a muppet in her reaction videos and giving no credit to the creator. What's really wild is she doxed him by showing up to his house and posting it.

@krozareq 8 ай бұрын

The only reason they get away with this is because the streamer's massive audience will cause problems for them if they make a stink about it. LEMMiNO must've spent months on that amazingly produced video for some cracked out fool to steal the entire video.

@blank1990 8 ай бұрын

Lemmino doesn't care why would u?

@RahulSharma-ot3wo 8 ай бұрын

Lemmino hasn't said a single word about this whole drama

@royalfun1031 8 ай бұрын

It's mafia

@ik749 8 ай бұрын

@@blank1990 we want others to be justified.

@soocool78 8 ай бұрын

@@blank1990 are you just making shit up to defend xqc?

@omaha-republican 8 ай бұрын

Funny/interesting how 3+ seconds of playing copyrighted music is a big deal but playing minutes/hours of full content by someone else for profit can even be argued as fair use.

@syferpolski4344 8 ай бұрын

3s of copyrighted music can be fair use, and often is. The difference is the music copyright parasites have held platforms like KZfaq at gunpoint to shoot first and think later(the system is called ContentID), while video creators have not. TV stations often sign up to ContentID, striking clip usage that would likely stand up to fair use, but most KZfaqrs don't sign up to ContentID

@jonathana607 8 ай бұрын

the main difference is a full team of legal hounds

@MynameisBrianZX 8 ай бұрын

The degree to which you should reuse content without permission or even with permission is still unanswered, so the practical answer is people get their way with money. Hell there are full episodes of more obscure TV shows because nobody could afford to stop it. Game studios let players spoil plots, often with little skill to progress, because the free advertising gets them more customers overall. People are only mad at reacters now because creators don’t benefit in practice.

@CharlieBrown20XD6 8 ай бұрын

Because songs are like 3 minutes dude lol besides I have no problem with song writers making money every time their work is used. You love the song so much you HAVE to have it in your video? Then PAY FOR IT.

@Chillerll 8 ай бұрын

@@CharlieBrown20XD6 the song writers dont even get paid, the creators of many copyrighted songs are dead even. You think Kurt Cobain cracks a smile in his grave whenever some slick bastard gets richer off his music?

@the_babbleboom 7 ай бұрын

i wish we could just walk into shops, grab stuff, walk out and say "i'm doing a reaction to the taste of this one month worth of foostuff" and then just nothing happens because it's a smaller store an they would have to file a report through a private third party that also profits from my theft.

@balazsjakabffy2556 8 ай бұрын

I remember when a youtuber called darkviper something called out all reaction streamers for exactly this: lazily stealing content. This was the same response, they don't care, it's exposure etc. I wonder why is noone suing them as they do look legally culpable.

@dylanboczar999 7 ай бұрын

Because big reactors are the ones that the legal system and KZfaq are designed to *cater to* (not defend against): big bucks and a larger audience will trump the wronged-underdog 90% of the time. Smaller creators simply don't have the resources/time necessary to take effective action against these thieves.

@laplongejunior 7 ай бұрын

In the US it cost A LOT of assets to sue for copyright damages. There's no way a small creator can exercise their rights, because copyright was intended to be fought between publishers, not between a corporation against a single person doing videos by themselves.

@Y2B123 5 ай бұрын

At the same time, sophisticated commentary gets struck down or demonetized for the slightest use of copyrighted material. There is no penalty for frivolous DMCA notices (unless you lie about being the owner of the copyrighted material, I guess). It is very sad that the burden always falls on the people who are actually doing the work and are the least well-off to handle it.

@Nate9273 8 ай бұрын

xqc is literally the kid that just copied the answer to a math homework, and got pissed when the teacher asks to show the process

@Joe90h 8 ай бұрын

The teacher hasn't, though. It's like if every other kid in the class reported the rich kid in class for stealing another kid's homework, but the teacher decided to ignore it to avoid their wages taking a hit if the kid got expelled.

@pyrokinetikrlz 8 ай бұрын

Nah, he is more like the kid who copies your homework and get better grades than you

@cancerino666 8 ай бұрын

@@pyrokinetikrlz More like the rich kid who copies homework by just taking it from the poor kids and writing his name over it.

@rtyler1869 8 ай бұрын

and was upset that he failed the tests that followed

@ardynamberglow3124 8 ай бұрын

"But I got the answer right, I don't need to show my work!"

@None-lx8kj 8 ай бұрын

I find that many live streamer's defenses come down do "Do you know how hard this job would be if we actually did it the right way?"

@dylanboczar999 7 ай бұрын

Moneymakers often use this to try to excuse breaking the law. Remember when phone companies said it would be too much effort to actually enumerate all the charges they were billing their customers for?

@GregStraub42 8 ай бұрын

Calling him a gibbering mouther made my freaking day. Also this seems like a discussion of people having problems with consent, again.

@jonathanlanglois2742 8 ай бұрын

The problem that I have with the way that reaction videos are done right now are that they use the entire thing which means that most of the time, the "reaction video" can act as a substitute to the original. I do consider them to be stealing content.

@Donald6309 8 ай бұрын

I'd love to see xQc try to react to this video and see LegalEagle sue the shit out of him.

@jinzok 8 ай бұрын

he will react, just wait till he wakes up

@subliminalvibes 8 ай бұрын

It'll be a simple DMCA takedown and we won't hear about it, but I hope it happens!

@73delgado 8 ай бұрын

I can't wait to see asmongold react seeing as Legal Eagle grouped him in with xQc by showing a snippet of his stream when talking about streamers that steal content. Asmon gold doesnt steal content at least for the stuff that gets posted to his youtube. as for the other stuff he reacts to on stream I really cant say. Fillian would have been a much better streamer to show in Asmons place considering most of her content is just her laughing at other people videos

@flame5391 8 ай бұрын

he won't for sure, 27 min. lil bro not gonna watch allat

@oni651 8 ай бұрын

@@flame5391 well jokes on you he's watching it

@kylee6051 8 ай бұрын

If xQc posts a garbage reaction to this, please sue him.

@the_undead 8 ай бұрын

That would be a very interesting court case that I would absolutely follow

@enemy3508 8 ай бұрын

Might break his brain

@RafiYagami 8 ай бұрын

too late he already did. But he did put a lot of effort into reactin this time

@panzerschliffehohenzollern4863 8 ай бұрын

@@RafiYagamiHe know to not temp fate and mess with the lawyer.

@cringemorecringe4549 8 ай бұрын

He can’t sue him 😂😂😂

@FeetHipWidth 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for going over this, it's valuable information for all of us!

@blaiseburrows748 8 ай бұрын

Not often that Devin makes his personal opinion so viciously obvious, but I like it.

@DanSanderson 8 ай бұрын

"The chat wants me to not commentate" = The chat wants to watch the original video, so the stream displaces the market for the original. The chat wants you to commit copyright infringement.

@KrakenIsland64 8 ай бұрын

You stole that content from the prosecutors Exhibit A. But I have found that it is Fair Use.

@blarghmcblarghson1903 8 ай бұрын

I think it's fair to say that nobody decent wants Felix to comment on anything.

@thomaskilmer 8 ай бұрын

"The chat wants" is not a legal defense, funnily enough.

@lukasmedici31415 8 ай бұрын

Pretty much what the chat wants is just a watch party which isn't the same as them just wanting to watch the video by themselves. Obv this doesn't make it better or anything It's just an interesting issue.

@raccoonmoder 8 ай бұрын

literal self report

@OtherMomo 8 ай бұрын

Arguing that they had to take breaks for food and bathroom stuff is a moot point because the technology exists to halt the pre-prepared video in a single moment until the streamer returns It's called pausing You can also neo it while making commentary so the video doesn't get ahead of you

@LyonManes 8 ай бұрын

xQc said that "my stream would get bored and leave!" for this kind of thing. Really dumb excuse.

@Ericb1957 8 ай бұрын

I mean it's telling that all of xQc's 'defenses' basically relate to the fact that it would hurt his bottom line, so it's fine if he doesn't do it. As Devin said many times it's a moot point anyway because the act of streaming the video live could well invalidate any sort of fair use defense.

@snaxicakes 8 ай бұрын

Well put! It's what everyone else does...! It makes sense to put a BRB screen up, because he's literally NOT THERE.

@the_garniiics 8 ай бұрын

Could also switch to his own content when he's gone. Such as him doing the worm on loop

@TheJunnutin 8 ай бұрын

xQcs sorry that's a bit mangled, but it's the best I can do right now 😅

@analyons8595 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Devin (and, if any, your writers), for speaking to people's highest intelligence, and providing a type of entertainment that feels mentally elevating. It feels like you believe in humanity's innate dignity and love of overcoming a meaningful challenge to improve their minds. (I love trying hard to follow what you're telling us, and increasing my power of thought). : D

@michaelsnow3536 5 ай бұрын

Why do people even watch xQc at all? I'd generally prefer my content free of some random blonde dude just staring at a monitor in the corner.

@rinkusan978 8 ай бұрын

Damn, the Normies got thrown into this. That example feels so odd since almost all their videos are filled with "reactions" - so much so their audience ATTACKS them for talking too much during their reactions. It's so bad their audience accuses them of missing content from the video they're reacting to.

@evanerra 8 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Their type of reaction content is completely different from "react streamers." They have always been carful about fair use, edit down everything, and spend more time discussing/reviewing than the content they're reacting to.

@mehmeh8403 8 ай бұрын

Yeah I found that odd. Personally I LIKE the normies because they talk too much so using them as an example feels like a lack of research.

@RileyCourter 8 ай бұрын

And they always have a post discussion about what they just watched. If feels transformative enough to where it isn't hours of silent watching for money.

@stevenightfall6634 8 ай бұрын

To be fair... the never ending stream of BS that usually flows out of their mouths often adds just as much as them saying nothing would have.

@joevictor53 8 ай бұрын

Yeah I don't think people like The Normies or Blind Wave should count. They cut the episodes/movies down to a shorter amount and they spent the end of each video discussing/reviewing what they just watched. XQC's trash

@fartpunch3937 8 ай бұрын

xQc being referred to as a "gibbering mouther" just made my day.

@queenannsrevenge100 8 ай бұрын

When I heard Devin make a D&D reference, I busted out laughing.

@korliavivarin9842 8 ай бұрын

SAME. Only came here to comment about the D&D Monster. haha@@queenannsrevenge100

@christineherrmann205 8 ай бұрын

Made the same comment. 😂

@Moon_Viber 8 ай бұрын

Time stamp?

@Beck-tr7dd 8 ай бұрын

@@Moon_Viber6:17

@andrewshandle 8 ай бұрын

The fact that he wanted stream himself watching the Dark Knight is probably all you need to know about how much the guy cares about this stuff.

@risel56 8 ай бұрын

On the topic of fair use, I'd love to see a video on Games Workshop's zero tolerance policy on fan works. It killed so many great projects and I've been trying to figure out if they're legally able to do that, and what's stopping other big companies from adopting it down the line as well. I know it's a video that'll probably never happen, but I can dream.

@markstewardson4006 8 ай бұрын

Losing TTS was a real shame. I agree it would be interesting to see.

@VioletEmerald 5 ай бұрын

Definitely worth exploring the legalities and fair use nature of fanworks in a video!!

@Aetham 7 ай бұрын

Whoever captioned the text at 5:46 is the hero this world needs

@DanLifschitzEsq 8 ай бұрын

As a copyright professor and litigator myself, I’ve been dying for someone to produce a video (a) on this subject (b) of this caliber. xQc’s position was always laughable, but SCOTUS made it all the more so after this year’s Warhol v. Goldsmith decision, which was the first time the court iterated on the 2 Live Crew case in three decades. Sotomayor stated that if a defendant’s use is commercial and serves the same (or a highly similar) purpose as the original, it’s presumptively not transformative absent a further justification (such as colorable criticism, commentary, or parody). qXc’s reactions are posted for commercial gain and supplant a clear market opportunity for the original videos (since the experience of watching either is equivalent), meaning his lack of sufficient commentary is fatal to a transformativeness defense. Given that the first and fourth fair use factors are generally considered the most important, he’s already roasted, but (as you note) he also flubs the remaining factors by reacting to creative videos closer to the core of intended copyright protection while using the entire works without a proportionate need. If one of the victims of his IP theft walked into my office, I’d take their case in a heartbeat.

@BallisticTech 8 ай бұрын

I don't understand how KZfaq allows it... the Content ID system should be triggered and either allow the original owner to strike the other channel or claim profits from it. Look at what reactors have to do to content from a Disney show. They of course cut out portions. But also mirror it, make it smaller, overlay themselves over a portion of it, mute/transform the audio, remove music, all sorts of stuff. I've seen reactors noting they've had to reupload 6-10 times to not get claimed. Even people doing breakdowns which don't play large portions of the original work get claimed. There also seems to be a bias for some channels. Newer channels often try to copy what they see larger channels do. Cutting at the same points and all the other tricks. But they get claimed when the larger channels don't. It's been suggested that some channels have gotten "whitelisted" and only get manually triggered claims. So how are videos natively uploaded to KZfaq not having the same level of scrutiny? Because they're not Billion dollar companies?

@Grak70 8 ай бұрын

@@BallisticTechthe white-listing argument makes a lot of sense. KZfaq makes the most money off of creators with large audiences, so they’re going to get bespoke, light handed review. Everyone else gets a robot than demonitizes your video if it thinks it hears the word “Hitler”.

@dimebeth 8 ай бұрын

It's very subjective. Why not sue the platforms?

@vishwajeetsingh7270 8 ай бұрын

Have you seen darkviperau's video on the topic, he has made series of video on this topic

@DanLifschitzEsq 8 ай бұрын

@@BallisticTech ContentID is a walled garden. Only certain copyright holders have access to it. Maria Schneider filed a lawsuit over that issue a couple years back, but dismissed it on the eve of trial after having been denied certification of the class action she was trying to lead. I also wouldn’t be at all surprised if KZfaq calibrates the system’s leniency based on how established a channel is. Although ContentID was primarily instituted to placate copyright holders in the wake of the seminal Viacom v. KZfaq litigation, there’s a dearth of case law stating they *need* to have the system in place to be protected by the DMCA, so they have leeway to play around with it and avoid jeopardizing their safe harbor protection - at least for now.

@RaDeus87 8 ай бұрын

I absolutely hate all reaction content, and there is no way to filter it out on KZfaq (AFAIK). It's especially infuriating when you click on a video that turns out to be a reaction video, and KZfaq suddenly deciding that you now *love* that content, and now the feed is full of that low-effort crap.

@blitzofchaosgaming6737 4 ай бұрын

You do realize this video was a reaction video right?

@joedav67 3 күн бұрын

@@blitzofchaosgaming6737this video was a commentary/video essay. Not everything is a reaction

@averyeml 8 ай бұрын

And here’s the thing- I didn’t ever get around to watching My Cousin Vinny UNTIL you reacted to it. A good reaction gives enough to make someone want to seek out the original (assuming it’s good and not a mocking react)

@user-gl5dq2dg1j 5 ай бұрын

I watch a few vocal coaches (They teach enough about technique and theory that I can say I've learned a couple of things, not enough that I can sing anywhere other than the shower but it gives me a deeper appreciation for singers.) and I am grateful that they almost always put the link to the video in the description so I can watch the uninterrupted video. I generally only watch movie reviews if I really know the movie.

@AuditTheAudit 8 ай бұрын

This is an issue I have personally dealt with from both sides of the perspective for many years. The foundation of my channel is built on a balance of adding nuanced and contextual information to videos that I did not create. Fair use has been a major aspect of my channel from the very beginning, and my team and I have worked very hard to ensure that all parties are respected and acknowledged. Tracking someone down to obtain their permission to use their content is often the most difficult part of making a video for my channel, so it would be nice if others could pay the same respect to the content we create. Thank you for making a video on this topic. It was very educational and top notch as always!

@legofellow120 8 ай бұрын

Pog

@DarkBiCin 8 ай бұрын

Not the channel I was expecting to see here. Keep up the awesome work!

@pocketflies 8 ай бұрын

Love your videos ATA!

@gregorymorse8423 8 ай бұрын

A channel that xQc has reacted to even.

@smithamith7795 8 ай бұрын

I love your videos ATA and your strides to keep law enforcement accountable

@gdaydk 8 ай бұрын

23:25 - 😂 LegalEagle going for the throat with this one. You made me spit out my water

@loganshaw4527 8 ай бұрын

Mean while youtubers almost having to show no video or sound to stop being copywrite strike at. 100 percent just reaction.

@cericat 8 ай бұрын

@@loganshaw4527or getting other issues due to content, ie almost anyone that tries to discuss All Quiet on the Western Front.

@aryanram02 8 ай бұрын

also when he siad "apparantly kick thinks this garbage is worth 100MIL" i spilt some coffee lmfaoo

@TheStrangeBloke 8 ай бұрын

@@aryanram02 the trick there is that Kick is affiliated with a gambling platform. So its bad in multiple ways, and XQC's fecklessness serves them well.

@Ryunamii 8 ай бұрын

@@TheStrangeBloke Stop accusing xQc. People are saying this is fair use to react properly and not steal content... but.. did you ever wonder why Mr.Beast(king of yt) said it himself that "react to my vids, i will take free views", these reactions actually profits the vids. . . . . Kapp

@doktorwyvern2883 8 ай бұрын

I was not expecting Legal Eagle to bring this level of heat and I love it.

@WoFDarkNewton 8 ай бұрын

25:13 "Just ask permission! (and receive it!)" Hot damn, you ARE a lawyer XD

@fssgaming9382 8 ай бұрын

Jacksfilms is currently on a crusade against one reactor sssniperwolf basically the KZfaq equivalent of xqc

@Jaxv3r 8 ай бұрын

Bro watching SSSniperswolf makes the video unwatchable for me, with xqc most of them time chat carries the reaction content, while xqc just stares, eat and go away from the video.

@zachava 8 ай бұрын

@@Jaxv3r"bro is delivering a package"

@kattatonik2356 8 ай бұрын

@@zachava oh hell naw this crusty musty comment, bro said ohhhh noooooo

@Select2Play 8 ай бұрын

Gotta say, SSSniperWolf somehow manages to be worse than XQC. At least sometimes the guy sometimes cracks jokes and stuff, meanwhile sniperwolf just repeats what's on screen and even sometimes just cuts out the original punchline so she can say it herself.

@okzyzz 8 ай бұрын

@@Select2Playher videos are scripted, she’s not even watching anything

@ShamrockSeraph 8 ай бұрын

Jacksfilms has been going after SSSniperWolf for pretty much the exact same thing xQc is doing for a couple of months now, and he's doing it to highlight how bad the problem is. Fair use essentially involves crediting the original creators and providing transformative commentary or additional original content to the original work and people like Felix and Lia never seem to do anything like that. The craziest thing is that KZfaq seems to be promoting this type of behavior because they realize these people make KZfaq a ton of money. When you think about it, people like Felix and Lia are pulling users from Tiktok, one of KZfaq's direct competitors, and they are watching content initially created and hosted on Tiktok, but Tiktok is essentially seeing none of the revenue from it. It's a double win for them; they get paid and their competitor gets hurt. And because we're still in a sort of "wild west" when it comes to enforcing fair use, these companies basically get off without any repercussions.

@TheOverSeened 8 ай бұрын

I think TikTok should sue

@camzoman 8 ай бұрын

I don't see TikTok going after them because their content actually is being promoted by SSSniperwolf. Individual creators are likely to be hurt as she rarely credits the original creator, and the experience of their entire video is being replaced. The platform, on the other hand, gets its name plastered all over a competitor's website and that will drive some traffic to them, likely far more than they lose by people watching non-reactive content. It's going to have to be creators who do it.

@craigspaulding9711 8 ай бұрын

I dislike Sniperwolf and find her style…loud and grating…but she gives a lot more commentary and criticism than xQc, probably enough that she would stand a decent chance in court.

@camzoman 8 ай бұрын

@@craigspaulding9711 In rare cases, sure, but a lot of her work is unambiguously theft. Her reactions range from literally just reading out the tiktok captions to in some cases literally not having her face in at all and just repuploading someone else's content. Actual transformative insight being added to the video is rare. It's a lot of "bro that's so crazy".

@joedav67 8 ай бұрын

@@craigspaulding9711describing what's happening is not meaningful commentary, as was pointed out in this video

@MyCoolMac 8 ай бұрын

We need a crossover with DarkViperAU on this

@gamefanatics5113 3 ай бұрын

This had been DEEP fair use investigation. I used to make a podcast and I'd put copyrighted stuff in but keep it under 10 seconds. That was my extent of fair use law, 10 seconds.

@soopahfly6692 8 ай бұрын

The thing is, xQc doesn't really care. He gets paid a lot and his audience generally tolerates him stealing. He has nothing to add so he makes noises so at the minimum, he just doesn't want to get banned. He doesn't care if he's stealing unless it hurts his bottom line. His sympathetic (to a point) audience makes it easy for him to brush off criticism because unless something drastic, or legal, happen, he'll keep trucking.

@GAMEOVER-yy6zj 8 ай бұрын

He'll start caring when people drag him to court.

@jdk7278 8 ай бұрын

Luckily someone can sue. Don't they say $250000 per infringement?

@juanpabloochoagalvan9018 8 ай бұрын

He´ll start to care once someone that can match his wallet for legal fee´s sue him. He has no case, it will only be a fight of attrition until he can´t push it more.

@blurry7672 8 ай бұрын

@@jdk7278 and he said he will gladly pay however much the creators feel that he stole from them, as long as they reach out to him. is it scummy still, yes, but suing him won't even dent his pockets.

@cgi2002 8 ай бұрын

@@blurry7672actually it will, as co-defendants will include the platforms, and its upto $250k per offense, each individual view counts as 1 offense potentially and the platforms don't want that liability so rather than risk going to court and fighting it, they'll drop him and leave him with all the liability. Other platforms pay attention and go "sure he may have a large audience and we might get that, but he is also likely to get us sued, and we can't afford that risk". The reason no platform has dared take a large scale "fair use" case to court yet is the liability that happens when they lose would be insane and there is a very large chance they could lose since fair use is not a solid concept in the law (and some countries don't have it at all).

@caleb8659 8 ай бұрын

LOOOOOL "GIbbering Mouther" That's amazing. When LegalEagle goes into insult territory you know it's bad.

@brianjones7943 8 ай бұрын

Calling him a straight up DND monster makes me like Mr Eagle more, hope we get to see him delving dungeons at some point!

@christineherrmann205 8 ай бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one that caught and loved that.

@colinlee6683 8 ай бұрын

Makes me wonder if LegalEagle is a rules lawyer... :)

@thomassilia7306 8 ай бұрын

You know it's bad when a Lawyer gets so mad he insults someone instead of stating facts that make them look bad

@justiceplay3518 8 ай бұрын

Man, at least someone else pointed out this issue, other than @DarkViperAU. Feels like there are still sane people within this platform.

@irishrunner27 5 ай бұрын

"If i commentate too much, the chat gets bored" way to tell on yourself as being boring as heck bro

@BigSteve1997 8 ай бұрын

I wouldn't put the Normies on the same level as others. They get yelled at by comments for talking too much sometimes

@iwantcake7703 8 ай бұрын

So does xqc 😪

@theshlauf 8 ай бұрын

@@iwantcake7703 That's why I watch neither. But Normies' format is way different (and way better) than xqc. xQc reactions are just group viewing sessions where he might talk. Normies reactions designed specifically for commentary.

@iwantcake7703 8 ай бұрын

@@theshlauf can't disagree but content isnt "good" or "bad" as it appeals to specific audiences

@ashuri599 8 ай бұрын

Quite literally the same argument as xQc's lmao

@danieljohn560 8 ай бұрын

@@theshlauf Well the format is always going to be better on react specifiic content vs a variety streamer. Theres tons of react content for a reason, because its not all the same.

@brianpaulandaya 8 ай бұрын

"...and accused his critics of being envious of his success." Never followed or watched xqc but this one sentence combined with shifting blame to his fans in the chat to his editors uploading the video in question on KZfaq really tells me what kind of personality this dude has.

@notadev1590 8 ай бұрын

It's like Sssniperwolf saying "because I'm a woman". It doesn't address the criticisms being made, deflects the blame and, detracts from women that actually are facing sexist attacks. If you truly believe you're in the right, it shouldn't be hard to articulate why. Right?

@HappyBeezerStudios 8 ай бұрын

The claim that chat gets bored if he pauses and comments too much is basically admitting that chat thinks his content is boring and they would prefer to watch the original video unmodified.

@adankpancake 8 ай бұрын

he refuses to respect the content, so ive chosen to refuse to respect him

@ccbstar 8 ай бұрын

xqc coming for Ethan and Hila about fair use when they have literally set the legal precedent is just. embarrassing

@ebdgr 8 ай бұрын

💯 XQC wouldn't have a job if it were not for Ethan's legal battles...

@huyphan7825 8 ай бұрын

"And to prove you are wrong about my actions, I will use **flips through notes** uuuhhh.... your actions in the past as my... defense. Wait."

@Bacteriophagebs 8 ай бұрын

He's Canadian, so U.S. precedent isn't controlling except as it violates the ToS of the platform he's using. He's also _French_ Canadian and might very well have a hard time understanding the nuances of the legal decisions since English is his second language. Yes, (most) French Canadians grow up speaking both languages and can be considered fluent, but xQc is obviously not one of them. And let's face it, many people aren't actually fluent enough in their _first_ language to understand law.

@mrlarvux 8 ай бұрын

He thinks he won that debate too

@ccbstar 8 ай бұрын

@@Bacteriophagebs he lives in the us so he is culpable for us laws. plus I think he’s just stupid or huffing copium

@lordcola-3324 8 ай бұрын

I really whish someone would actually take xQc to court over this.

@emkstr 8 ай бұрын

My guess is in cases where it appeared the original creator had the resources or appetite for litigation, he quietly paid a retroactive licensing fee and a continued license or royalty agreement to make it go away. Because if one case against him succeeds, all his content is endangered.

@N1ght_walk 8 ай бұрын

And every other streamer and reactor.

@neilbiggs1353 8 ай бұрын

I'm curious what happens if xQc tries to do a null reaction to this video...

@bobfg3130 8 ай бұрын

@@luissuazo3684 No. If he doesn't have an argument some deals might be made with the lawyers to get a portion of the revenue instead of a standard fee. He probably paid the moment he gets a notification.

@AtomicBuffalo 8 ай бұрын

Imagine a class action :)

@froonamission1013 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for making this video. I have a small youtube channel, in a whole other name, and when I was trying to decide what content I wanted to do, my guts told me not to do reactions. It's such a grey area. While there are ways to be transformative, I found it was safer just to be original. I tried to make one reaction video and it was instantly claimed. Never again.

@johanmetreus1268 8 ай бұрын

It's fairly simple: if you actively analyse or parody the material, you are in fair use. If you are passive with the material, fair use goes down the drain.

@Gaywatch 5 ай бұрын

@@johanmetreus1268KZfaq doesn't distinguish between the two, though.

@anaguma90 8 ай бұрын

Shout it from the rooftops DarkViper was right

@aame6643 8 ай бұрын

I hope xQc "reacts" to this video so LegalEagle can wipe the legal floor with him

@hanzohattori007 8 ай бұрын

he will, and legal won't do anything.

@christineherrmann205 8 ай бұрын

💯

@battle_toast 8 ай бұрын

That would be a huge financial loss for Legal, lawyering is expensive, there'd be minimum payout and not enough to cover the first weeks of discovery, let alone if the case went all the way to trial in.. 2 years time.

@dragnbreath1 8 ай бұрын

It might be worth it just to set precedence which will make it harder for people to do videos like that and get away with it

@AlexDenton0451 8 ай бұрын

@@battle_toastwhile you're right it's also funny to imagine.