I've got 3 Arken lenses, the cheaper ones I think. They're better than I am, and a fantastic value point. It's good to see that even a very proficient shooter like yourself agrees. Thank you for the awesome videos!
@SFERDIAN8 ай бұрын
I also have 3 and can relate
@jasonsponsler2111 ай бұрын
I bought the EP5 after watching Paramount Tactical’s review. It works great for what it is. I just spent a weekend on a Nightforce ATacr. There is an obvious difference in clarity but for 3000.00 less I can’t complain about the performance of the EP5. Best value I’ve com across
@TomSavadel5 күн бұрын
Just got the ep5 myself and I have to say I am really impressed with it.
@mattturner56811 ай бұрын
I've been running the SH4 Gen2 for about 2 years now on my 6.5 Creedmor and have shot it out to 1600 yards. I have been very pleased with that scope. I didnt have a lot of money to start long range shooting with and this fit the bill perfectly. Very satisfied with that scope.
@tokko68842 ай бұрын
Has the eye box caused you any issues? I just picked one up and if I’m not perfectly behind the rifle on high magnification it’s a pain to see clearly.
@johncrosser878311 ай бұрын
Just bought an EP5. Yes, it’s One Heavy Optic! But, For the difference in Price, I’m more than Happy with it! I couldn’t Believe you could get an Optic for this amount of money, with Everything it will Do! Thanks! Great Video
@uswee6 ай бұрын
Best review yet. I have 7 of them. Their customer service is top shelf..thank you
@kevinbreese57395 ай бұрын
Fantastic review! You have a top-tier radio/commentator voice! Also, your very calm and friendly demeanor makes me trust what you are saying. Additionally, I really appreciate you being mindful of people's time and not dragging this out. Keep up the great work!
@DSMattitude Жыл бұрын
I put the ep5 on my 338 lapua, and love it. Getting the sh4 soon for my 22lr. and another ep5 for my 223. I have a razor HD 5-20 on my 284 and i love it, but after getting behind the arken at 500 bucks, i find it REALLY hard to spend the extra money on more expensive scopes these days.
@JerrBearTactical11 ай бұрын
Upon your recommendation, I've just ordered this optic. I found your review to be extremely helpful in this matter. I have always valued your opinion on all of your optics reviews. I personally have been a primary arms fan for quite some time, but I need to step out of that comfort zone and try something new. This looks like a great choice for my 6 mm arc, AR15. Thanks again, Ray. I truly appreciate all you do for the 2A community😉👊🇺🇸
@XRING11 ай бұрын
Thanks JerrBear! I think you will be happy with it for sure. For the money they seem to be the best thing going. I hope you have been well and thanks again for watching. 👍🏼
@Big6Duke11 ай бұрын
can you fit a x56OD on an AR?
@smasher.33811 ай бұрын
@@Big6DukeDepends on the mount. You can always get an adapter though.
@smasher.33811 ай бұрын
@@Big6DukeI have the ep5 on an ar10 build and the 'rigid precision' mount that arken sells fits. Idk about the rings.
@pal-sb7ej11 ай бұрын
Did u get the 20MOA or 0@@smasher.338
@trevorhawkins8757 Жыл бұрын
I chose the EP 5 for my NRL rifle. The FOV is really better than most scopes out there. It's noticeably better than my Steiner T6Xi and my Burris XTR iii. The large fov really helps me find my next target a lot quicker, so I'll gladly sacrifice a little clarity for time saved.
@ClearWater-pi5qv Жыл бұрын
Have two sh4 and one ep5 Also some others on the $800 to $1000 range scopes one is Cabela's The ep 5 is the one I prefer This gentleman is right I have no complaints for the price and he's ponts of view are accurate with my experience with arken Thank you for the review
@davidpayne36049 ай бұрын
I have both scopes, and all I could say about your conclusions is “ditto”. Great scopes for the price and fills a great niche for people wanting to shoot and are on tighter budgets. I really like your video format, giving honest real world experiences without all the BS and trying to be cute. Keep up the good work.
@billbee235 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been running an EP5 on my Cz457 for NRL22 and it’s been a great fit. I have a few Vortex razors on my comp rifles but didn’t want to go that route for 22LR. The EP5 is impressive for the price point.
@AKlover4 ай бұрын
Spent more time at public ranges than I care to. Most shooters are never going to shoot over 300m based on what I've seen. "High End Glass" is wasted on most of them, a $400 scope is all they need. When the reticle in said scope does 90% of the work for them inside 300m and they still miss torso sized targets at 200m it is both ironic and amusing. Long range shooting is largely A money pit. I don't hunt but even if I did I'm going to have A miniscule chance to even take an over 200m shot, where hunting is legal around here there is simply not that much open ground.
@PkwyDrive138 ай бұрын
I'm impressed with arken all around, awesome optics for the cost and they outperform a lot of optics that cost $800+. It's been scientifically proven that the sh4/sh4j were far more accurate in terms of reticle tracking than big name brands that were $500, $900, $1500 and $2500 optics. Very impressive
@bayoumike544 Жыл бұрын
Got a SH4 last year with the combo pack. Very satisfied as it performs better than my experience since I just started shooting at longer ranges. Does great out to 800 yards on my Savage 110.
@iomedes571610 ай бұрын
i agree.
@DJH8308Y2 ай бұрын
Just found your channel. I really enjoyed the way you presented this video. Thorough, informative, and extremely well done! I'm 69. I've shot long range with my Savage Model 12 LRP in 6.5 Creedmoor, with a Vortex Razor HD 5-20X50 with the EBR-2B MOA Reticle. It's first gen, but I've been to a thousand with it, without issue. I'v been happy with that set up for the price invested. It works for me. I also shoot a Springfield Armory M1A National match that I added an Archangel stock to. The M1A has a much, much less expensive Sightmark Citadel 3-18x50 scope with an Mrad reticle mounted on it. It works fine out to 500 yards, then the image gets quite hazy. I'm about to retire and I'm budget conscious. I've been looking at the Arken Optics EP-5 to replace the Sightmark. The closest long range I go to maxes out at 800 yards, which is fine for my old eyes. I may give the EP-5 a try. After watching many videos on this subject, I enjoyed you and Texas Plinking the most. Thank you so much for your time and effort in making such a fine video. It made me hit the subscribe button.
@ronws200711 ай бұрын
The only problem I have had with Arken, and I am not the only one, is the turrets get loose because the set screws back out from vibration. So, Arken tech support suggested Vibra Tite VC3, which does seem to work.
@ES44AC-2 Жыл бұрын
I've been very happy with both of mine. I have the 5-25x56 EP5 and a 4-16x50 SH4 gen 2.
@click.on.my.profile424 Жыл бұрын
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@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting ES4 and thanks for watching the channel.
@coiw22806 ай бұрын
@@XRINGwhy did you say the 6x24 has more magnification than the 5x25? Did you mispeak?
@dfarrell80 Жыл бұрын
Just took my EP5 out on my DD Delta 5 pro both for the first time today. I loved both. I hit every target after getting it dialed from 100 to 700 yards without any effort.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
That's awesome dfarrell. Sounds like the same setup I had on the channel. The DD is a workhorse for sure. I just need to buy a folder hinge for mine when they become available again.
@lgdurocher Жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone else is rocking that setup! I felt kind of foolish using a $500 scope on my $2500 D5P. Works well for now though
@strohausii11 ай бұрын
Did not initially notice the "J" as a new SH4 until i visited the website 10 days after originally viewing your review.
@madmaxd17 ай бұрын
Good honest review with clear objective understanding. Thank you.
@thereloaderscloset909611 ай бұрын
Here is my take after owning 2 of them. All thing being equal price point they fit a budget friendly option for long range shooting. The adjustment in the turret is the best thing going for this scope. It tracks completely. It holds true so far. I have one for over a year now and run the turret a lot. I'm a hunter that loves to shoot long range. My wife tells me I'm more of a shooter that likes to go hunting and reloading and tinkering with loads is my thing trying to get them to shoot well out to 1000 yards. So the scope tracks and hold true both of them. Haven't had an issue. With that said the glass is the big issue. I've seen clearer Tesco scopes. You have to consistently adjust the eyepiece focus at ranges along with the parallax. Actually the 4x16x50 30mm tube anything over 200 yards just set the parallax to infinity. Its almost the same on the SH4. The optic quality is not at all what I expected. I had a lower end 4x18 Redfield and its much clearer than both of these. I just don't trust the turret adjustments on it anymore. I have 2 vortex HSLR and they are hands down way better optics that have flawlessly tracking turrets. I have 2 Zeiss conquest that have the best optics out of everything I own and the turrets on them track flawlessly. I was hoping for more when I bought the second one due to reviews and all the hype that I bought into. No you don't need to spend just as much on your scope as you did on your rifle but you do need descent optics. I wont buy another. I will buy Vortex, Zeiss, a much higher end Bushnell something that can track, and has respectable optic quality . For me when looking at what most consider budget scopes that track well I would not go any thing less than my HSLR's anymore since I've been bitten twice now. I need to be able to see the targets and not have to move every knob on the scope to do it. When seconds count when taking long range shots I need my scope to be able to focus and focus by only adjusting the parallax knob not the eyepiece and back and forth. This is just my experience with them and once I save up some more money again I will get what I need and sale the others or just keep them on my plinkers. They would be good for my 22 long rifle or a short range gun. Just my take. That my rant on the optics. Now are they durable scopes very much. I weigh 290 and took a hard spill with my sh4 last year on the side of of a slop. I use a backpack that holds my rifle but not exposed. Its an EBERLESTOCK backpack one of there large packs. I did not hit directly on the scope but I did roll over it. I checked zero and it was still on and took another shot at a rock at 500 and still holding true. My son nocked it over in my reloading room this year when we were cleaning and the next outing no issue. So that aspect hold up good. They are tough and track, just not optically clear. For me I need also an optically clearer scope. That my biggest issue and anything past 700 starts to look gritty where my vortex and Zeiss does not. Took it out today and was shooting. Tracking is still great but side by side comparison with the vortex and it much clearer at long distance looking through the vortex. Also I never touched my eye piece focus on my vortex. I had to adjust the eye piece on the arken and the paralex was set to infinity to get somewhat of a clear picture.
@BabaNovac7925 ай бұрын
You are not going to get a reply, just like many others, here or elsewhere, saying the same thing....just doesn't fit the narrative
@XRING5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply and sharing your experience on them. I agree with you completely about the clarity however, I wasn’t expecting incredible glass for less than $500. I don’t find myself having to adjust the ocular as you described. While they are not perfect, they do fit a price point for a lot of people. You know that I do shoot more higher and optics and there is no comparison to those.
@XRING5 ай бұрын
I don’t have a narrative I merely missed his comment. 👍🏼
@brndncrbtt11 ай бұрын
I built a new rifle and didn't have enough in my budget for an expensive scope. I stumbled on the SH4. I LOVED it! I then picked up a Vortex Stike Eagle. I immediately regretted it. The Arken controls are amazing. The zero stop doesn't consume any travel in the turrets. I want the EP5.
@bubbabug816011 ай бұрын
You prefer the Arken over the vortex??? Strike eagle was my next purchase but thinking I’d rather go Arken at this point.
@commonsense570911 ай бұрын
@@bubbabug8160 The Arken EP5 currently on sale for $397.49 with free shipping and SH4J at $299.99 with free shipping are much better buys compared to the Strike Eagle.
@rustbucket931811 ай бұрын
@@bubbabug8160I don’t have any experience yet with Arken but I’ve been consuming lots of info and reviews and unless the shooting world is full of liars it is better glass for the money than anything else. I have extensive experience with Vortex and I am a big fan of most of their scopes. The strike eagle is good for its price but I think I would roll the dice on an Arken for just a bit more to see how good it is. As a Vortex fan my next scope is a vortex razor lht for my new Christensen scout rifle. Just saving up first so I robbed another gun of its scope and mount in the interim. It’s a Leupold which I also like a lot. I’m not in the market for the $3,000 and up scopes and don’t know I ever will be when I can find really good stuff in the 500-1500 range for my needs. Novel over, good luck and good shooting!!!
@therowdyrue776811 ай бұрын
@@bubbabug8160 I had a strike eagle and returned it for a ep5 and never looked back
@commonsense57099 ай бұрын
@@therowdyrue7768 How clear is your EP5 on it's maximum 25x magnification? I ask because the older ones I previously looked through were only clear up to around a little past 20x or 22x until image became distorted. I got a chance to look through a new SH4J and it was perfectly clear all the way to it's maximum 24x magnification and clearer than the older EP5 when compared side by side at 24x. I don't know if all of the new SH4Js are as clear as the one just looked through. It's way clearer than the older SH4s that's for sure.
@The_Hunan Жыл бұрын
Dang it Ray! Don't let everyone know how good they are so they raise their prices on us! Great review man, I've got 2 of them and they punch way higher than their price point. I wish the new lpvo had a better reticle option though.
@tnsharpshooter851711 ай бұрын
I recently bought 2 of the EPL4s 6x24x50. I like them. Use them on 17 hm2 Rimfires. You review of Arken scopes very logical. Can’t say that about all the rest. Thanks for sharing.
@05Dmax_LLY Жыл бұрын
Picked up an EP5 last year for my "budget" PRS build in 308 win. 2 seasons down and a couple hunting trips, it's held up fantastic. I really like how positive and tactile the turrets are, the glass is pretty good, especially for its price point. I think it's a great option for someone looking to get into PRS or NRL but can't afford/ justify 2500+ on a Razor or NF.
@yourmommashouse Жыл бұрын
Why does it have to be 500 or 2500 lol there are plenty great scopes for 1k-1.5k
@marcelorafaniello472311 ай бұрын
Hey guys I Ben installing Arken scope for the last 4 years install in hunting rifle and NRL 22 Rifle and PRS center fire my customers love theme and are all of theme I have a problem with one and the customer service took care of the problem by send me a new scope I’m a gunsmith in Florida with a small shop if your are in a budget the Arken can’t be bit I own a razor gen2 and a couple of Knithforce and one USA optics in lower light the higher cost have batter glass and I can see better and pass 1000 is not problem to see my impact with the higher price but I love Arken
@pdkiernan59 ай бұрын
@@marcelorafaniello4723 Welcome to the USA! I'm glad you are working hard and prospering.
@willo7734 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had an EP5 for a little less than a year. It ended up being one of my favorite scopes and the glass looks better than a couple other brands I have that are 2-2.5x the cost. I would say with the features and clarity of the glass even at higher magnifications this is the best scope for the price point I know of. Kudos to you for reviewing these since I know you usually stick to the high end stuff.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thank willo! I will agree with you with what all they are bringing to the table. No frills just a solid optic for the money.
@fernandog.aguirre279111 ай бұрын
I really like this guy videos content and presentation. Clean and right on spot! Great job!
@PoliticallyInsensitive11 ай бұрын
I've got a SH4 G2 on my .308. the farthest I've taken it is 600. Thanks for confirming that I'm the problem 😉👍
@fbwguy Жыл бұрын
Great review, I appreciate your honesty and candor. I love these scopes for the price, unbeatable
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thanks FBWGUY and thanks for watching the channel.
@jamesarvin953911 ай бұрын
I bought an EP-5 for my precision AR-15 so my friend could shot in a PRS beginners match. The Arken did not disappoint. They also support the PRS community which is another plus…
@VaMike9 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your content and appreciate your honesty in this video. However, after owning 2 Arkens, I wasn't as impressed as I'd hoped I would be. The EP5 was better than the SH4, but neither performed as well for me as the Bushnell Match Pro ED or Vortex Strike Eagle, which are similarly priced. The biggest issue I had with the Arkens was that the parallax function didn't work properly. Another issue I only had with the Arken was after dialing 20 Mil, the image clarity was almost nonexistent at magnifications over 16X. This is just one man's experience. Take care, and thanks for the video.
@magic42215 күн бұрын
I have 2 Arken scopes and I absolutely agree with your results. My Arkens are over 2 years old and they are bulletproof.
@mohsenraghian2108 ай бұрын
I started with three of their optics, the two you have here and then I also ordered their 1-8. Then a couple of weeks ago I ordered another 1-8 plus their new thermal/IR as well to take advantage of their huge sale and before their price hike, I also ordered my mounts and rings as well as flip-up covers from them just b/c the price was right. I also have optics from S&B, VX, LEUPOLD, NF, STEINER, PA, BUSHNELL, TJ, ATN and SS. I think I got them all, didn't leave anybody out. I am glad I found your review on Arken.
@sethhughes216311 ай бұрын
Last we spoke... you were having issues with .22 mags, and I rewrote another cad/cam file in Mastercam and it fixes those problems 100%... and then that night my father passed... and within the same week I received results from testing back and was already Stg.4 when diagnosed. So eons later... my last chemo was yesterday. We look to be out of the woods it seems... time will tell. All that started when I found you, lol... everything else stood at a standstill and we are out of fields of attorneys with our business being rolled into just mine now... I look to renewal of our friendship and getting back to what we both do! Talk to you soon with more time hopefully now on the horizon... oh the Caracal goods have been a question that I soon would like to do some items with. I also remember back in the Fogg of the previous timeline... I viewed a video in which you were thanking someone who had expressed concerns about you...? Look to hearing more. Ray, I have numerous ideas about the same things we share... hope we shed the rough waters, and are back doing what we love! Respectfully, Seth
@XRING11 ай бұрын
Dang Seth!!! I am really sorry for your loss and what you have had to endure. Please keep the faith my man because every day is a blessing to each of us. I had a massive heart attack 3 months ago out of the blue. I’m doing ok but we need to catch up for sure and grab lunch or something. Call me sometime. 👍🏼
@sethhughes216311 ай бұрын
@@XRING Sounds like a plan! I am shocked @ your heart issues, I thought that maybe I had dreamt it through all the emotions in that week... hope all is well these days my friend. Ray, you've alot of things yet to do! I will be in touch after the next few days( new regimen change... lol ) but it won't be long. I found your Email address so talk to you shortly! Appreciate the sentiments. Have a good night, Seth
@jongruen7854 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a good review of these good bang for the buck scopes. I have friends who are hard to convince to spend even this level of money. Your information confirms what other trusted sources have said. But, with your experience, Ray. I will use it as a solid review from someone the competitive shooting community respects.
@johnevans19699 ай бұрын
Great info, because I picked up the sh4 gen2 last week, for a buckthirty. Thanks for taking the time to present this info to us.
@johnlong750411 ай бұрын
Thanks for your detailed info-clip and yes, I have the SH-J4 and no, have not used it to get an idea how to work with it or how to use all the options it offers. Take care and try to stay out of trouble!
@NikeMS1111 ай бұрын
For whatever it is worth, I trust your review more than anyone else's. I would love to hear a regular customer's review on their experience buying the optic from Arken from start to finish, because it seems to me, not real smooth, like other processes.
@davidpayne360411 ай бұрын
I ordered an EP5 from them and it was here in 3 days, got the combo pack with 20 moa mount, then after the purchase I had like bonus bucks from them they emailed after the purchase, and I turned around and ordered a set of rings and got them for $10. From everything I have seen they appear very well made, The ep5 is going on a CZ 457 mtr and will be able to assess its performance at a later date, but the purchase was quick and easy.
@commonsense57099 ай бұрын
@@davidpayne3604 How clear is their newest EP5? Is it perfectly crystal clear at 25x magnification? I'm curious because the older last ones weren't clear at 25x and noticed past 20x image quality wasn't perfect. The newest SH4J is clear all the way to it's maximum 24x magnification and clearer than the old EP5 when compared side by side both set at 24x. I don't know if this is a fluke or not that's why I'm asking about the new (newest batch) EP5.
@davidpayne36049 ай бұрын
I just received an EP8 that I ordered about three weeks prior, and it said on website they were approximately 6 weeks out, so that came earlier than expected. I bought an SH4 just prior to that purchase, and it was only 5 or 6 days from order to receipt. The only negative so far on them is the weight. I know big knobs and big tubes mean more weight, just don’t pick one up for a lightweight hunting rig. I have gotten good deals on them, glass seems of good quality, I bought the rings for all of them from Arken, they seem of good quality too. I had the new Arken 34 mm rings sitting next to a pair of 34mm Vortex rings, and they appeared to me identical. May have been made in the same factory. I have not used them enough to make much of an informed decision, but will expound more as I use them some more. Looks like we are on the cusp of another ammo shortage. Please go to the ATF comment page and voice your opposition to the rule they are proposing to limit private sales to only ffl dealers, even if you selling to family or friends. Speak up now !!!
@userJohnSmith Жыл бұрын
I'm an optical engineer. Everything gets full "multi-coating" it takes about 5 minutes longer and cost an extra $1-10 per lot does triple the lights loss reduction. For years I could assure everyone that the glass is all polished in China, if it's Schott (US/Germany) or Ohara (Japan) glass... It was still done in China. Now that might vary. Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, maybe even S. Korea are all possibilities. A lot of the European stuff is Eastern Europe. However, your eyes aren't good enough to tell the difference. We do high end stuff stateside but rarely will anything I make make it into a consumer product. Mechanics are another story. Made here is made better, but not by a lot and the price difference is small. Assembly... No big preference. You do want American owned though because that means US designers, probably. Or Eastern Europe for some reason.
@rdm1000 Жыл бұрын
Ray - good topic for a review. I think shooters always want to be inclusive, bringing people to guns in general, and long range shooting in particular. It can be intimidating watching you shoot because for the most part you use top-shelf equipment as well as being a gifted shooter. But a lot of your viewers likely don't fall into either category. They may be average shooters with smaller incomes. So it is always a good idea to show people there is equipment available that will allow them to enjoy, possibly compete, but still stay on a budge so as not to incur the wrath of an irate spouse. I've had the opportunity to shoot friend's rifles topped with Arkens. Each time I thought they were more than adequate. I had no complaints with the scopes themselves, and considering the price point was very pleased. Thanks for calling out the nitpickers who rag on lower price optics for not being as good as the best glass available. You made the right point. You want the best - then buy the best.
@rustynut1967 Жыл бұрын
For the price they're great. My biggest complaint is the eye box is tight and the reticle on the 4-18 is a little to fine for my old eyes, but it works.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting rusty nut. I did read a couple of comments about the tighter eye box and noticed it as well. Definitely not bad but noticeable.
@stevenlewis6781 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ray for this review. I have been riding the fence with these for a while now. I’ve got some good optics, but only a couple. I have a real need to upgrade several of my older ones and really don’t want to spend several thousand dollars in the process.
@mrjeffjob11 ай бұрын
Look at the Burris Signature line. They have the E3 hunting reticles which I much prefer over busy target reticles. I have the 3-15 and the 5-25 and really like both.
@YotaDaryl Жыл бұрын
I own several and they're great. Thanks for the optimistic perspective and just good straight fwd non biast content. Appreciate you're opinion and will definitely continue to watch your channel. Best wishes from West TN
@p47rr11 ай бұрын
Thank you once again. Just ordered a SH-4J today for my 223 rifle. I have a EP5 as well on a 308 rifle. Which I like for the price point. Had four SH-4s with the Chinese glass. Sold them all because I didn’t like the glass. I made money on one. Broke about even on the others. To expensive to have Vortex Razors on every rifle.
@JW-wi1nf3 ай бұрын
Are you satisfied with the glass on the SH-4J compared to the EP5? I can't decide which one to put on a 22Lr for target shooting.
@stephenhair550111 ай бұрын
Arken is some good glass. My only issue with them is they are so Heavy!! Be sure and check out the weight and dimension specs before making your decision to purchase. Thanks for a great video!
@theozofwizards69236 ай бұрын
Just found this channel i respect your reviews and also find them very easy to watch as i view 100 of gun vids and reviews and you have a very good camera presence plus a welcoming voice and trust me that matters bc i have to skip alotta vids like this
@XRING6 ай бұрын
I appreciate it and thank you for watching the channel.
@thomascheatham3519 Жыл бұрын
I've been watching your channel for a while and just subscribed because I appreciate honesty thanks for the videos.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thank you Thomas and thank you for subscribing to the channel!
@lukez4133 Жыл бұрын
Got the EP-5 on top of my NRL CZ455. The 56 mm lens helps the old eyes with target locating. I shoot for fun and the scopes affordability makes it possible.
@derricksmoothy439211 ай бұрын
I appreciate your honesty. I been following you for about a year and have learned a lot. Keep doing what you're doing.
@sjohnson1776 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review Ray! I have the SH4 mounted on a .223 cal Savage and I do like it a lot. I'm limited to 500 meters shooting and I have zero complaints on the scope at least out to 500m. When I ordered the Arken, they were giving away the combo pack so it was very affordable. In fact I had my brother buy the same setup and he likes it a lot too.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thanks SJohnson and thanks for watching the video. I think that is an excellent choice for a .223. Their combo packs do make them rather appealing as well.
@randomidiot814211 ай бұрын
The arken's work, I think I like them better than my strike eagle. My experience using their customer service was pretty decent. They sent me a 34 mm mount that did not fit their 34 mm scope. It wasn't machined properly, the scope tube would not fit in the base. I sent them pictures, they sent me an RMA, and then a new mount. I might try an ep5 before I graduate from their price range, not sure if I will do that or do the Bushnell mped.
@texasyotehunter2964Ай бұрын
I have 2 of the SH4 and 2 of the EP5 scopes. Excellent glass for my budget and needs. I’ve never had an issue with Arken products.
@billysouth46989 ай бұрын
Spot on review, and agree 100% with the illumination, but damn for the price you cannot go wrong and really loving my EPL-4!
@mckimmym Жыл бұрын
I have both the Sh-4 (no-j) and the ep-5. They’ve been great out to 1000 yds in PRS club matches. Hope your heart is ticking along, I go in for my ecg and bubble test on Monday. 🤞
@joshuascout5549 Жыл бұрын
Is the j even out yet to the public? I own all of em except the new lpvo. Never sern the j.
@MAC-vh3kf11 ай бұрын
Very Respectful video and input Sir. I appreciate the time you put into the research.
@StormFanatic21011 ай бұрын
I’m a Vortex guy, specifically the Viper PST Gen II. Still though, I think I’m going to go ahead and get the EP-5 just to test out based upon what you and the guy at Texas Plinking have said about these. Worth a try.
@commonsense570911 ай бұрын
The EP5 is an extremely nice scope when used as a 5-20x. Past 20x image quality goes south but for the current sale price of $397.49 with free shipping it's still worth buying. The SH4J for $299.99 might be a better buy and suggest buying both.
@p47rr11 ай бұрын
I own both. And I like them. Have the EP5 on a rifle that is heavy already. And the Vortex on a rifle that I’m trying to keep the weight down. Not that the Vortex is super light. But compared to the EP5 it is.
@commonsense570911 ай бұрын
@@p47rr My favorite Chinese made scopes are the Athlon Ares BTR G2 4.5-27x50 and Midas TAC 6-24x50 which seem to have the best ratio when it comes to quality and relatively lighter weight at around 26-27oz. They simply can't be matched for what you get when you buy them at their sale prices of $565.49 and $460.00. The Athlon Ares ETR 4.5-30x56 is the best scope China has to offer and cheapest prices I've seen them were between $600-$700 through Expert Voice but it's heavy at 36-37oz. The Athlon Midas BTR G2 SFP 4.5-27x50 for $470.00 on sale is also phenomenal at 26oz. These Athlon scopes are clear all the way to their maximum magnification and have fantastic reliable tracking and turrets. I don't think any other scopes that are made in China can beat these regardless of brand or price.
@plu5five11 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks brother! Hope all is well with you and your family🍻
@XRING11 ай бұрын
Thanks R. I hope you have been well!
@arthurwubbena85759 ай бұрын
Thank You for Your time and knowledge being an older shooter I do appreciate the input for us old guys Thanks again Sir
@deanconn825311 ай бұрын
I really wanted to like the Arken SH4 scopes. I bought 4 of them a couple years back. I like the turrets a lot but felt the glass quality left quite a bit to be desired but maybe I should not have expected better at this price point. However, 3 of the scopes stopped holding windage after shooting them on .30-06 and .300 PRC rifles. I guess something in the erectors broke or came loose, not sure. I would re-zero them and they would be good for a shot or two, then the windage would drift and drift until I was out of adjustment on the knobs. It was not the mounts or rail screws being loose, it was definitely those scopes as other scopes tested on the same rifles has no problems. I discussed this with Arken who said to send them back and they would look at the issue, but my confidence in them dropped to the point I did not want to keep investing it what I decided was a less than desirable product at that point.
@brentrasmussen244011 ай бұрын
I had the same issue but with the elevation, and this was just on a 6.5 CM. It would hold for ~10 shots, but then move by about 1 moa. 100% certain it was not the mount or rings. Was constantly chasing my zero. Arken did promptly warranty.
@konoctiswigwam8130 Жыл бұрын
Ray, the EP8 is coming out the 2nd week of Sept. It's a 1-8 LPVO w/Japanese glass. Can you see if Arken would send you one when they're released? I plan to use mine for pig hunting.
@UpChuckLiberals11 ай бұрын
Thank you, my long range shooting is with airguns, 125 yards or so, and we measure in one minute of Squirrel, well, I'm down to one minute of cork with my little .22 FX Maverick at 100 yards and with my .25 Maverick VP. As an older guy, the optics are pretty decent, I LOVE the turrets, much easier to move and to feel. I agree, the glass on the EP5 is better and it shows up when the sun is setting.. But the SH-4 isn't too bad either and you can't go wrong. When you contribute to the Navy Seal Fund you get a super good deal or at least when I bought mine they were a steal.
@andreivaldez2929 Жыл бұрын
I think the guys complaining about these cheap optics having problems miss the point: they're meant to be perfect, just affordable.
@forrestebert52769 ай бұрын
I’ve had an EP5 new in the box for a while and with my last rifle purchased being a Savage Ultralite in 6.5PRC I’m going to use it finally. I’m sure I won’t be let down as I’ve never been let down by my NFS that I use and I’m not really expecting that type of performance from a scope that is about $2,000 less.
@alanmeyers39578 ай бұрын
You’ll be unbelievably close.
@russchapman299711 ай бұрын
I agree with you. My arthritis kicks up in the cold. These turrets are fantastic!
@williehollin7577 Жыл бұрын
I have a sh4 on a scar 17. No issues so far. Actually impressed at quality
@catman4x466 Жыл бұрын
Which model and are you using the Arken rings ? Thanks
@mrjeffjob11 ай бұрын
Great intel here. What I’d like to see someone do is a series on entry level components that punch above their weight class as the Arkens do. Suggestions would be KRG Bravo, MDT Oryx and XRS, the Boyd’s laminated stocks, Origin actions with the interchangeable bolt heads, Howa 1500 rifles in general and prefit barrels. I started building my own guns a few years ago and have discovered that less money USUALLY means less performance but not always.
@fl_protection9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for a real world review on the optics. This video helped me make my decision on what optic to go with.
@NateBoyce17898 ай бұрын
I have Vortex Viper PST Gen 2, Arken EP5, and Athlon Cronus BTR GEN 2 4.5-29X56. And I rank them from best to worst Athlon Cronus, Arken EP5, Vortex Viper. Love the 34mm tube on the Athlon and Arken. The glass on the Cronus is amazing, the glass on the Viper is SLIGHTLY better than the Arken, however the 34mm tube lets in much more light than the Viper, turrets are MUCH more tactile than the Viper, and the zero stop is better. I bought my Arken for $350 on sale and the Viper I bought for $900+ on sale. For
@erikmcclure91211 ай бұрын
Yes I have a few of them on 308, 6.5, and 7mm and am extremely happy with them!!!!!
@joaquin-jacknava2696 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Finally a budget friendly scope that won’t break the bank. Have a good weekend Ray.
@titot2370 Жыл бұрын
They’re heavy but also built like a tank. Have dropped mine on rocks a couple of times and It still held zero. Not sure I’d take mine on long hikes again but it’s a great range scope .
@MarshallArsenal Жыл бұрын
Im sold! ordered the EP-5. Being from China doesn't bother me. Holosun makes one the best red dots on the market. Thanks Ray!
@JasonVladimir11 ай бұрын
A great cut and dry thorough review! Thank you!
@jcjustice3786 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your ( plain vanilla) explanation & your upfront disclosures. In my opion you are 👍👍👍. Thank you. Also arken is veteran owned
@linus17929 ай бұрын
Thank you for your intel, sir. I already have an SH-4j which I have yet to test out (impulse buy), but am torn between the EP5 and the infamous Vortex line of scopes around the same power/price point. Being ex-Military, I support the Arken brand and what they stand for, but I cannot really stay away from the EP-5 and the "Combo Pack" that Arken is offering... for a little under $700 all in. This is a SWEET deal, sure, but all I have to go on right now is other people's views on the product. Sure, I have an Arken scope, but comparing the SH-4 to the EP-5 isn't quite the same. I will test my SH-4, but the EP-5 is somewhat in a higher bracket, so thanks again for yout take on this matter!
@BigTee30992 ай бұрын
I really like Arken scopes. I have sh-4 4-16x50 and it’s great for my .308. I will take your advice and get the EP5 for my Bergara HMR 6.5. I have an Arken EP8 coming for my Windham src .308. Sir this by far has got to be the best review I’ve seen on Arken scopes ! Thank you and I’ll keep watching your channel. Where are your training classes?
@paulstakun82499 ай бұрын
Nice reiew. I have two SH-4s and like them. Yes, they aren't perfect, but for the price, a lot better than some of the big name scopes that I've owned. Most of all, I like the brilliance of the view for my old eyes.
@plrodrig123 Жыл бұрын
Ray, can you get your hands on a Bushnell Match Pro ED 5-30x56 and do the same type of review? Always a big fight on Reddit between the Arken and the Match Pro ED fanboys. I trust you for an objective and unbiased review
@XRING Жыл бұрын
I just reviewed that one last week. It shifted .8 with a simple push over test. I like the scope but I also mentioned the shift in the review.
@II_HARDCORE9 ай бұрын
Well done. Thank you for quality content and production. 👌
@chriskell84797 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review and honesty. My money only goes to Made in America. Yes it is harder. But, I am 55, and my money needs to be spent at home.
@martinD122 Жыл бұрын
That Range is Awesome! Shooting across the valley 850-1000. What a great spot.
@jaimeramos66477 ай бұрын
Awesome video! That ATX is my dream rifle.
@KretinD Жыл бұрын
Ive had the ep5 since it came out. Its been an absolute tank of an optic. Ive ran it on a dedicated 22lr upper and now i have it on a 6mm arc. Used it yesterday to spot for a guy that was zeroing an lpvo.
@dalewetherspoon698411 ай бұрын
First time watcher, now subscribed. Good info, I had been looking into the arken ep5. The info you provided is the game changer to get one. Was skeptical about the price vs quality. I have a 6.5grendel ar platform so 800y will probably be my max.
@possumpopper89 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had the EP5 for a few months and have been favorably impressed by it.
@sammartinez808411 ай бұрын
Great show and thanks for the info 👍👍👍👍👍
@IDUTCHTAURUS4 ай бұрын
Just found this channel. Good job and appreciate your input
@bensears74997 ай бұрын
I put this on a 7mmRem Mag. I am not a long range guy, but hope to be able to learn on this scope. I chose MOA for learning calculations.
@leemartin957911 ай бұрын
For young poor shooters like me these really are the best choice. I’m building a 6.5 cm now with EP5.
@hardr0cker6423 күн бұрын
I was on Reddit and guys were absolutely trashing these scopes. I have the SH4 and I’ve been happy with it. I’m not too picky and it works perfect for me since I don’t shoot anything less than 400 yards anyways. Works great with my Bergara.
@derekedgley5074 Жыл бұрын
Another most informative video from Ray,very few do them better. It’s just a shame that You Tube messing subscribers about monetary wise. whereby a complete boycott would make them wake up. Of course no government oversight of their actions. They demonetise people left right and centre f😅r no valid reason, but continue to take the advertising income. Sheer greed.
@flydoc7896 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. I enjoyed meeting you Friday at Big Ivy 1000 yd range.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Hello Flydoc! It was really a pleasure meeting up with you as well. Shoot me an email next time you are in town and maybe we can meet up to shoot. 👍🏼
@XPLAWD2 ай бұрын
Arken has change my Discovery Scope. Ever since i had that nightmare claim on that so called LIFETIME WARRANTY, I'm never buying anything from Discovery Optics ever again. Hope they get sued for having a terrible after sales. DISCOVERY OPTICS IS JUST A NIGHTMARE TO ME. LOVE EM NEW BUDGET SCOPE FROM ARKEN.
@user-do1fq8oy9c Жыл бұрын
In the 90s, MKIV was king. Super Sniper was junk. Boy were we wrong! Then a small company came. "Imported junk"! That company grew up to be Nightforce. Then another small company came. "Imported junk!!" That company grew up to be Vortex!! All this time the SWFA SS line is still going strong. Now comes Arken. I'm predicting they too will grow up!!
@nvlaser9084 Жыл бұрын
They were not coming from China, they were coming from Japan /LOW which is one of the oldest most respected optics houses. Arken are garbage, chinese shit. They fail all the time which is why you never see them on hard use guns. If you are a dirt shooter who doesnt know what good glass, good tracking and a good eyebox is, then you dont know what you dont know. Come shoot some PRS matches and you will quickly learn how much they suck, especially when the weather turns south.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! Ding! Ding! You absolutely hit the nail on the head. In my original video I stated your comment above almost verbatim. I competed in the 90's with Mark IV's 10x and 16x. Nothing was better at the time. Even though we were still using MOA turrets with the football dot mil reticles. I also remember when the Nightforce scope first came onto the scene as well. The lore back then was that everyone in Australia used them for hunting dingo's and there wasn't anything better. I think they were also the same company that did the Lightforce off road lights as well. I'm not saying that Arken will be the next NF or Vortex but I do think they make an outstanding product for the money. I actually don't see how they can offer it for such a low price to be completely honest. Thanks again for the great comment and have a good weekend.
@tonygslc80111 ай бұрын
Been running Arken since the original Ep4 came out. I need to get my hands on an Ep5 👍🏻👊😎🇺🇲
@non-binaryjesus Жыл бұрын
It's refreshing having other "old timers" understanding that for Sub 400 bux, it's not gonna be perfect!. I've noticed that the glass is a little different optic to optic. My friend has the sh4 and I have 2 myself. I have one that the glass is amazing. The other 2 are ok.
@ronmartblog Жыл бұрын
Spot on - I love my EP5 and SH4 but the EP5 is way better and both show their price about a half hour before sunset and beyond
@PARR53 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 SH4s one in 4-16x50 Mil/Mil and the 6-24x50 Mil/Mil and the EP5 Mil/Mil and I am currently waiting on the EP8. I own several different Leupold MK4s and many other types of optics etc I also have a good amount of time on the MK5 and 6. FOR THE MONEY, the Arken is the best scope on the market. The place the Arken isn’t great at is it’s size and weight. Other than that it’s the bomb.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
I will agree with you 100%. It definitely fits the bill for most of us that are looking for good tracking and decent glass at a great price.
@richardlawton1023 Жыл бұрын
I'm using a sightron sIII ss 45 by 45. I'm very happy. I paid 1,000$. My rifle cost around 3,500+$ Speedy Gonzales did the work.