Why Pros BASS Sound SO GOOD? Here is the secret..

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Alice Yalcin Efe - Mercurial Tones Academy

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@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

🌟Hey, if you're struggling with low-end, I might have something that could help! Atlas - Low End Tools: www.mercurialtones.com/atlas-low-end-tools

@nemesishacking 3 ай бұрын

You are such a good producer and have so much music knowledge.

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Aww thank you! ❤🙏

@Redemption808 2 ай бұрын

@@Alice-Efe Hey Alice, I bought Atlas and the sound quality is absolutely stunning! Next time I'd be willing to pay a lot more money if you do something like this but with presets for Pigments, Serum or whatever synth is used by many of us because for me the main challenge is to understand how you build those layers. Love your work :)

@Alice-Efe 2 ай бұрын

@@Redemption808 Thank you! I will probably do something like that in the close future. Main problem with this one was I used a lot of external gear (not that it matter so much but I was thinking it could be nice for the people qho bought it). So it wasnt possible to include project files. But next time, I will probably just use pigments to make them all with Ableton FX so you have also project files.

@Redemption808 2 ай бұрын

@@Alice-Efe love to read this, much appreciated 🙂

@ViktorNova 3 ай бұрын

For anyone trying to do this in Vital, it's a little different - you have to leave phase randomization at zero and assign the RAND key modulator to the phase of both OSCs, at 100%. (not Rand1 or Rand2, it's the RAND in the lower right corner). Everything else is the same, except there's no shortcut to remove the fundamental so you have to do it by hand (2nd partial from the far left on the top row of the wavetable editor, drag it to zero) Apparently Vital doesn't synchronize phase randomization between OSCs like Serum does, so you get inconsistent phase coherence on each note (aka phasey/weak/inconsistent bass) unless you do it this way - but this method produces the exact same results. This video was a total game changer for me, thank you so much Alice!🤩

@EPHEM11 2 ай бұрын

hi thanks so much for this, i don't have serum. just to confirm, do you set phase to 0 and then assign phase of both oscillators to RAND at 100% modulation? or do you leave it at 180 phase and then make the modulation bipolar? or does it not matter... my guess is it doesn't matter, as the reason you're doing this is just to make sure both oscillators are at the same phase at all times so we don't get phase cancellation whilst maintaining the panned bass? thank you:))

@Rzn8958 2 ай бұрын

So to remove the fundamental you're removing the tallest column in the wavetable editor and just leaving the harmonics?

@ViktorNova 2 ай бұрын

@@EPHEM11To get this effect, just leave one oscillator's phase at 0 and then tweak the other oscillator's phase until you find a sweet spot where the 2 oscillators sum together in a way you are happy with for the song. As long as RAND is modulating the phase of both oscillators by the same amount, the phase coherency will stay the same from note to note and you'll get a consistent sound. If you leave them both at zero, they will always be the same and won't make a stereo sound, so it's necessary to change the phase of one of the oscillators

@ViktorNova 2 ай бұрын

@@Rzn8958 The fundamental isn't necessarily always going to be the tallest column in the wavetable editor, but it will always be the 2nd column from the far-left, in the upper harmonic editor (the column on the far left is volume - I'm not sure why they designed it this way) - just remove that/turn it down to zero and you'll be left with all the harmonics but no fundamental. Personally I like to use a 2nd instance of Vital to have a sine wave sub on a dedicated track

@EPHEM11 2 ай бұрын

thank you, that's sort of what i ended up doing :))

@mxrdexe 3 ай бұрын

Bass is reason i give up every day

@joshtrent7945 3 ай бұрын

Honestly. You think this will be the easiest part of the project going in 😅

@ast4127 3 ай бұрын

Go for feeling, leave mixing for later. Dont get stuck on anything too long. Leave the track alone for a while or do sound design, search for samples, keep moving.

@novaray3405 3 ай бұрын

Oh damn I feel you 😢

@antoniobertolini9358 3 ай бұрын

Kick too

@adilmalik4648 3 ай бұрын

😂

@heartofawesomeness7087 2 ай бұрын

not a mastering engineer and prolly not qualified to explain this to ppl, but I thought I'd try and clarify. The difference between the unison and panning trick mostly boils down to the unison using different pitches on the left and right to crate wideness, and the pan trick using different phase. The unison also has more movement, but that's the gist of it. That still means that there's going to be phasing with the pan trick when it's in mono though (which there will be in any type of wideness ever, because that's literally what makes it wide) and it's still dangerous to use too much if you want it to be djable. The reason that you might want to use this trick instead of unison is that it's much less chaotic because there's no any movement or detune. Anyway, great video, Alice! You've helped me learn so much music stuff, and know that your videos are amazing resources for aspiring producers!!!!

@NGUETO 3 ай бұрын

wow I used to see your videos a long time ago, you've changed so much omg!!! I'm so happy for you, keep it up queen ❤❤

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Welcome back and thank you! 😊 things are bit changed here ✌️

@stenlyspa1325 3 ай бұрын

Another great vid! And thanks for all of your sharings - all of them are helping a lot!! You're doing so great - let the flow be with you!!!

@wreignone 3 ай бұрын

Its so good to see you are still doing these tutorials. I cannot think of anyone else who has such great pro tips 😊

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Thank you! I just like making them 😊

@WorksopGimp 3 ай бұрын

She is very educated producer and teacher, this sort of stuff is golddust for young producers just starting out

@NSW-ye3xw 2 ай бұрын

@@WorksopGimp he

@bugrabaran2808 3 ай бұрын

Hey Alice, I first learned how to complete the bass sound design by removing the fundamental from your previous video, but even then unison didn't always give the sound I wanted. This is a game changer :) Nice tips

@ambientuniverse5344 3 ай бұрын

Nice inspiration to improve my trance-producing skills. I like the way you do your youtube-channel. Rock on! 😎

@russellnashsynth 3 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for the tips. Also, this video helped me come up with a cool idea for a bassline, thanks!

@russellholloway7465 3 ай бұрын

Thanks again great channel always helpful ❤

@Planetugm 3 ай бұрын

Amazing stuff and very well explained! Love your channel! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@adasevic2 3 ай бұрын

Awesome video as always! Keep up the great work, you are a blessing to this community!

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Thank you! I will do my best to keep posting. 😊

@mindspace696 2 ай бұрын

@@Alice-Efeplease don't stop. I just discovered your channel and was very impressed with this video. You packed a huge amount of very useful information into a short space of time, and I'm looking forward to learning lots more stuff from you. I have been somewhat stuck in a rock format for many years, but I'm finally allowing myself to go back to using electronic sounds as I did in the 1990s. I have a lot to catch up on, so if the rest of your videos are of this calibre I'm going to be looking at them for some time to come. One thing that confused me with this one, though, was the rolling bassline in the first example. The MIDI data showed alternating eighth-note octaves, but the rhythm of the sound didn't seem to match that. Was that the result of a dotted delay or something along those lines?

@charvel111 3 ай бұрын

I appreciate this, thank you!! Liked and subscribed!

@evollie9035 3 ай бұрын

I love how you explain why a change is made, instead of just doing it without any context. Your tutorials are always great and I always learn. Thank you ❤

@julianmaccor5019 3 ай бұрын

This is the best way to teach! Great explanation, good examples and how to remake them. Keep it onnnn

@agosto.mp3 3 ай бұрын

Awesome video, thanks once again 🙌

@cerebralkaos2385 3 ай бұрын

Thanks Alice, you do the best tutorials! Keep up the great work.

@panagope 3 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for the production pro tips !!

@re_linked 3 ай бұрын

This is a big one! Will def rewatch this, so many helpful gems, thank you!

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Second time is the charm 😊

@DjVonDiego 3 ай бұрын

OMG FINALLY SOMEONE NAILED IT!!! I AM SO THANKFUL... YOU NAILED IT HERE! THANKS FOR SPREADING THE KNOWLEDGE

@iwalkeverdeyazul5265 3 ай бұрын

Gracias Alice! Excelente data! Saludos desde Argentina

@wavecamtu 3 ай бұрын

I appreciate this tip! Thank You so much!

@zerotoninemusic5957 3 ай бұрын

Simply perfect technique, works amazing! Thank you so much Alice!

@EntropyExhaustion 3 ай бұрын

One more idea: The phase shift is basically a tiny delay between left and right. You can get something similar if you add a band splitter after the synth and add a Haas fx in the upper band(s) only

@OrdinaryOneOfficial 3 ай бұрын

Amazing tips. Thank you! ❤❤

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@alexandermirth3231 3 ай бұрын

Great freaking video! Thank you so much. This solved the phasing issue I was having during mastering 🎉

@Griuofficial 3 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for the video

@marcwilko6550 2 ай бұрын

Good tutorial very detailed and well explained...nice one!

@CookieMCMLXXXI 3 ай бұрын

Great tips! ❤

@ko_3x335 3 ай бұрын

Hi Alice, i'm following your Channel long time. You've always very interesting and helpful content. You are getting more pro every time. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Love your channel ❤

@SonicConstruction 3 ай бұрын

love your enthusiasm :) great bass tips

@schuss303 3 ай бұрын

I am watching videos for an long time, almost 20 years..and i am telling you, your tips are amazing❤

@HumanMotives 3 ай бұрын

Great video, learned some more how to improve 🙏

@P-78official 3 ай бұрын

Thx for this!

@roseculotte4408 2 ай бұрын

Soooo helpful thank you ! 🔥

@unknownchannel6797 3 ай бұрын

Amazing, been wondering how to do this for many years, thank you

@MrRightR3MiX3z 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip on how to make a solid, clean bassline with punch and not mush. simple and a way easier technique than i've heard from others.

@SnazzyBoxx 3 ай бұрын

Damn I needed this 😩 thanks 🙏🔥

@sharma3737 3 ай бұрын

Outstanding tip Just wanna know if there is a way of performing the first one in pigments as there is no pan knob on the oscillators Thanks a ton for your videos

@Gujbffuugghhv12 3 ай бұрын

Very very cool thanks allot!!!

@JuanManuel12345 3 ай бұрын

Hi Alice! Im confused on the chain for the MRAK pro bass, is it set to mono? I'm not getting the same mono result on the imager! Thanks!

@djdarksade Ай бұрын

That was nice, thanks!

@kidnun804 3 ай бұрын

Sick one! Thanks fam

@50hz_artist 3 ай бұрын

Thank You! Will try it right now!

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Good luck!

@r_fl3xsounds530 3 ай бұрын

alice i doing it for 26 years and creating basslines nobody knows how

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Haha aren't we all just bunch of people turning knobs and hoping for the best 😊✌

@Genital.Wartzenegger 3 ай бұрын

Shout out to the golden age of KZfaq instructions. Pro tutorials with a legit release ready sound

@GuyXVIII 3 ай бұрын

As always, killer content. The precision sculpting of the synths is just amazing. I really loved when you called Ring Modulaion "trial and error" cause it's very relatable :D By the way, would be very interesting to see a video on RM in particular.

@ernestoblancof.7583 3 ай бұрын

Huge thanks, this is amazing

@ikoukou 3 ай бұрын

Great tutorial!

@BunnyBunniee 3 ай бұрын

you just saved me so much freakin time! i was literally trying to figure out how to not make my bass so scattered. You always coming through when i need it

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

haha happy to help!

@jean-baptiste9230 3 ай бұрын

This great thanks…i don’t really wrap my mind around fundamentals yet but i get that you remove harmonic therefore creating more of unified pitch, meaning the same root note on different octave, is this right?

@machinemademan 3 ай бұрын

are eq8 linear phase capable? ive been doing a little poking around about cutting bass without using linear phase EQs and even changed my project template to all pro q3 doing the cuts on the groups and i can tell a dif in the end phase results

@maxs489 3 ай бұрын

Great, as usual, thanks! Dumb question about the first one - we start off splitting out the bass to stereo, then spend a bunch of later steps trying to bring it back more mono. Why not just leave it more mono in the first place?

@dynamikmsc 3 ай бұрын

Your Videos are such a blessing ❤

@croco.nation 3 ай бұрын

This video is gold! Also, your video editing is great. The hard work you put into it shows.

@zyodmusic 3 ай бұрын

Great tip with the stereo bassline! Is there a reason why you leave the phase randomization on both osc on? :)

@elguaripolo686 14 күн бұрын

This is actual study and years of dedication spilled for free in a high quality KZfaq video. Insane❤

@GoranBackmanMusic 2 ай бұрын

I even had forgotten you can edit the waveforms in Serum haha.. nice video.

@papuyonic 3 ай бұрын

awesome video!

@invisiblejay7573 3 ай бұрын

Another excellent video. Absolutely one of the best synth bass theorists on all of you tube, Alice. I salute you.

@victorarrudadj 3 ай бұрын

Amazing content!

@SpacerLive 3 ай бұрын

let me say something you need to know: Your bass has a better image for mixing than Marks. That's it. You nailed it. That's why it is fundamental to study the basics of synth sound design! Perfect trick.

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Wow, thanks!

@AlexWBKK 3 ай бұрын

Really cool, learned a lot. ^^ Thank you. There are a few songs, that i also find really interesting in how they got produced. Its beyond other sounds and it really makes we wonder how they could achieve that. One is Aurora (DJ IBON Remix) and the other is Mikkel Rev - Amneo. The second one is actually more interesting, because basically all of the instruments are so subtle but still give out everything that is required to make it a "sound" ^^. I find it unbelievable how everything adds up together. For me this is art. And the first one i find so interesting because it has crazy reverb effects. It sounds like there is an insane reverb over every single instrument, still the song never sounds too messy. And for whatever reason all those reverb effects dont come into each others way. Bass has reverb, kicks have reverb, hihats have reverb, BG noise has reverb. And everytime big amounts too. Its a mistery how those songs got produced. Maybe someone else picks up on my curiousity and talks about how those songs are made. Maybe just a few of the instruments. THat would be really cool ^^ PS: both songs shoud be listened to with headphones, theres an endless amount of subtle stuff in.

@bpooboi 2 ай бұрын

For me. When it comes to recording albums. But only in rock/hard rock. To me, how the low end is captured in all instruments is how i grade an album

@Gino_567 3 ай бұрын

Great tips... but just some advice, refrain from saying things like "i'm the first" to do something in the future. 😅 I've watched a LOT of masterclasses and tutorials over the years by those pros themselves, and none of them create bass lines like this (that I've seen) They're all very simple, but just very well executed. Generally if it's overly complicated, it's probably not the way to do it. But there's always room for new ways! And will be trying some of these methods out for sure!

@howardhutchinson1631 3 ай бұрын

Nice vid! For sure, being "old school", i don't care refining at this level, since i get the right vibe of a track. I'm reading tips for Bass & Drums for 30 years or so, but most impressing was a guy who only pushed mono tracks on a 16 channel Mackie and some cheap FX. He just added room on a Microverb, did a "chorus" by copying samples in a Ensoniq sampler and distorted by simply pushing the gains. At the end he had all the controls at his fingertips and rocked the store so badly, i changed my style forever. I was 21 back then, now i'm 52. So, what's up KZfaq?😎

@alvesdeejay 3 ай бұрын

Great video thank you Alice

@itsmistera 2 ай бұрын

I often overlook the science of harmonics involved in music, great this information would give me many solutions

@jeffreygarceau-plamondon2200 3 ай бұрын

Do we have the same result if we take the ozone imager and force it to be more in the center while keeping a little width?

@HOLY_BATH 3 ай бұрын

that was sick ty

@gonzo7440 3 ай бұрын

will try this one is cool. Thx! 😱

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Good luck! ✨

@viktorijachileviciute5599 3 ай бұрын

Thank youuuu!!!

@abreuskie 3 ай бұрын

Great tips and video, thank you! Where can I find that serum skin?!

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

It is on Mercurial Tones 😊

@abreuskie 3 ай бұрын

@@Alice-Efe thank you!!!

@idirtyrecords 3 ай бұрын

very cool the pro part from the first base, i learend some new stuff, with the phase to bring one the sides, but isnt it better for the contro, to make the random level of the phase to zero?

@Redemption808 2 ай бұрын

I don't know how to apply this with Pigments or my Prophet Rev2. Do they all support those functions with phase adaption and removing the fundamental? Can someone please explain for one of those two synths? Would be much appreciated :)

@forgeduson 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for this very instructive video Alice, as always ! I have a question for you : Do you think it would be possible to reproduce this technique with an Ableton stock synthesizer like Wavetable or Meld for example ? I have been following your channel for a very long time now and your content is always top notch quality, please keep it up

@constantlydisagree5376 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!)

@theomichaud3843 3 ай бұрын

Huge one ! Merci !

@qtrax100 2 ай бұрын

Been making music for 30 years, ran a pro studio for 10 of those and never seen this before. Best music production tips on YT .

@kaliph810 2 ай бұрын

@Elice-Efe Thanks for the great video. Could you maybe show, how to achieve this with Massive X?

@hankr9025 3 ай бұрын

very interesting :) im gonna try this

@jmisissoko 3 ай бұрын

hello can u tell me where can i find this serum vst please ?

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

here you go: xferrecords.com/products/serum/

@fp1183 3 ай бұрын

Alice :) !! are the basses of number2 ( Disco) in the Atlas pack ? thanks

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Yes! 😊

@fp1183 3 ай бұрын

i saw, number 9 , very nice !!@@Alice-Efe

@Emare100489 2 ай бұрын

This video made me sub!

@mageprometheus 3 ай бұрын

Your 'how to' videos always leave me with a smile. So good.

@KucharczykKamil 3 ай бұрын

As always TOP!

@SunburstPrince 2 ай бұрын

LOVE YOU , YOU helped me alot and you Don’t know it❤

@alo06792 3 ай бұрын

How about lowering the Randomness of both waves in serum? Does this make a change in the final sound?

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Random makes the sound more dynamic. Given that we want the "top" layer to be autentic and stereo. As we removed the fundemental from top layer and sub is already mono, there is really no need to make the top layer more static and robotic by taking away random.

@alo06792 3 ай бұрын

@@Alice-Efe makes sense…thanks Alice!

@marklondon2008 3 ай бұрын

What if I don't have Serum to remove the fundamental? Can I use HP EQ?

@jimbotski 3 ай бұрын

Glad I found this channel, well done. sub!

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Glad you did! Welcome aboard! 😊

@eduardorosseti5832 3 ай бұрын

Thank's 😊

@hirudo881 3 ай бұрын

You look absolutely stunning in that thumbnail! If i wouldnt know... Also, great video yet again!

@AngeloBacaloni 3 ай бұрын

Love your passion, it's contagious. I don't produce but now I need to remix something to do that fu**ing Amazing bassline. What do you use? I'm beginner on producing but would like to use only workstation made for Linux. For ethic decision. Can you suggest something?

@elguaripolo686 14 күн бұрын

5:09 subbed for couple years. WORTH IT.

@maxs489 3 ай бұрын

I'm always really impressed by the listening skills of great musicians like Alice, and their ability to break sounds down like this.

@EntropyExhaustion 3 ай бұрын

Awesome as all your content. But I have seen the remove fundamental tipp elsewhere. It can be used to keep focus on heavy unisono patches ... interestingly enough even Surge XT (free synth) has a WT of a saw with removed fundamental on board ... anyway, I enjoy your content. Sometimes these advertisement phrases "secret pro tipp" or "only here" that are used all over the internet make me go mehhh. Btw: I started to use the combo of ISOL8 (five band splitter) and PsyScope (free, beat synced oscilloscope), which I plug in to the bass band of ISOL8 to visually control kick and subbass level... it's free an thus can replace SubNinja...

@Alice-Efe 3 ай бұрын

Can it be this one: studio.kzfaq.infoXsMn5Jo0wJY 😊 The unique thing in the video was not about removing fundementals but manual phase shifting 2 oscillators and panning them again manually and not using unison. I think that didnt come through well in the video, I should probably have made it more clear.

@EntropyExhaustion 3 ай бұрын

@@Alice-Efeprobably you're right. If it's for the phase shift then I might have missed the warning that you might end up canceling out when monoing if the delta is 180 degree in total. Anyways - I'm just adding "random" things that come to my mind ... your content is great!