Yamaha LL16 Review and Thoughts

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James MacDon

James MacDon

Күн бұрын

A review and thoughts on my LL16, different picks, etc.

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@stainlesssteve25
@stainlesssteve25 10 ай бұрын
Lovely playing and lovely guitar. Thanks from ireland
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 9 ай бұрын
Thank you
@robmccarthy1018
@robmccarthy1018 Ай бұрын
I love my Yamaha LL16 ARE in beautiful sunburst. Bought second hand for Australian $600. Plays great, sounds balanced and plenty of volume. I agree with the 'consistency' of Yamahas. I play Bluegrass and it's great even tho some say it's no good for that coz it's not a Martin, Gibson etc. When some friends played it they couldn't believe how good it was 'for a Yamaha'. One said it was every bit as good as his D18! Different yes but just different and great. 😀
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 Ай бұрын
Most certainly and what a deal you got !!
@martifingers
@martifingers 11 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree that these are world class instruments. The sustain is seriously impressive and the tonal balance across the strings is very pleasing. Definitely one to consider against the equivalent Taylors and Martins.
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 9 ай бұрын
Yes for years I used a Taylor 310ce - phenomenal gigging guitar, especially when playing leads and great pickup. But mic'd or unplugged not so good too tinny. I have a Martin D1XAE and sounds great. I did play lots of D18s/28s but for the price not worth it in my opinion. However when one does get that "right" Martin dred, pretty tough to beat. Gibson dreds too.
@user-gq9tm1vd3i
@user-gq9tm1vd3i 9 ай бұрын
Little muddied sound.
@susanroycroft89
@susanroycroft89 9 ай бұрын
Yes l agree Iv'e just bought a second/hand Yamaha ( LJ6C) it's an electric acoustic, BUT what a beautiful tone, believe me, I love a Martin, Yairi, a very few Fender's, and Guild's Collings to just name a few of the top Acoustic's, but this Yamaha was something else, go and play one, 'n' see what You think 😮😮😮
@UdonFarang52
@UdonFarang52 Ай бұрын
In Australia, they come with a gig bag,enjoyed your playing..!!
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 Ай бұрын
@@UdonFarang52 In Canada apparently a few years ago came with a hard case, now no case at all. Thank you.
@lhvent
@lhvent 10 ай бұрын
I love the L Series. My LL6M ARE was made in 2016. I picked it up used this past April.
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
Bet the mahogany warms it up nicely !!
@SteveMiller-yw7kv
@SteveMiller-yw7kv 10 ай бұрын
Just got this one a few days ago brand new for a little over 900 and I can't hardly lay it down.. the tone is unbelievable.. to be honest, I had been looking at a few Martin's and actually had the chance to play a friend's D28 and I actually like the feel and sound of this one better.. not to mention the crazy prices on the Martin's..
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 9 ай бұрын
There is a KZfaq vid of buddy playing an LL16 against a D28....pretty damn close.
@jamesdoctor8079
@jamesdoctor8079 6 ай бұрын
$900!! Please tell me that you got the LL16D, otherwise you got got big time. I just bought a LL16M two months ago for $770 including shipping and taxes.
@ericporterfield5531
@ericporterfield5531 9 ай бұрын
Great stuff. You can play. And I feel like I'm justr sittin' across from an old friend trying to take in very move. Pretty great. Go man, go!
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Eric.
@Matte.u.k
@Matte.u.k 3 ай бұрын
I just got an FG820 and its actually amazing how its sounds kind of piano like
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 Ай бұрын
820s are beauties !!
@mainoffenders4662
@mainoffenders4662 5 ай бұрын
I'll be buying one soon! Leaves many Gibson and Martins for dead!
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 5 ай бұрын
Yes, a great bang for the buck.
@pakulon
@pakulon 9 ай бұрын
amazing !
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@lsmedianclsmedianc9428
@lsmedianclsmedianc9428 10 ай бұрын
This guitar is phenomenal. I own one and this review is an excellent representation of its quality, sound and function. I've played some of the best; Goodall, Collings, Martin, etc. And while they're all exceptional, they have nothing on the playability and sound quality of the Yamaha LL16 series. This guitar simply just inspires one to play. And, he's right! The right pick makes all the difference.
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 9 ай бұрын
Almost all my guitars I use different picks...lol
@kenn8748
@kenn8748 10 ай бұрын
Nice sounding guitar! It really sounds good when you play it. I wonder how it differs with the LLTA without the effects though.
@nickweaver3343
@nickweaver3343 10 ай бұрын
I have the LLTA, and I love it. I was originally going to get the LL16, but I was not able to find one locally. All my local shops were sold out and said it was a minimum of 6 month wait (sounds like Yamaha cannot keep up with demand and are behind), so I bought the LLTA instead. I have played the LL16 and the LL16M prior because a friend was looking into them which was how I found out about them, and I really like all of them. The LLTA is the LL16, just with the transacoustic put into it. The TA part is fun, but I typically do not use it anymore. I have honestly thought about pulling it out because it adds quite a bit of weight. Anyhow, I recommend most people just getting the LL16, but the LLTA is just as good sounding, but with some reverb and chorus you can turn on. The chorus gets way too much for my liking and if I ever add anything its just a little reverb.
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 9 ай бұрын
The LLTA is a great guitar - I am currently trying to find one !! @@nickweaver3343
@barondavis5692
@barondavis5692 Күн бұрын
You’re a guitar wolf in sheep’s clothing. Well done.
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 20 сағат бұрын
@@barondavis5692 Ha ha 😜😏🥴🎶🎵🤓
@christopherwatkins9729
@christopherwatkins9729 10 ай бұрын
Very 'nice' Guitar... Prefer this one your holding (?) to a sunburst... (and I do own sunburst guitars)... Well demonstrated and skilled playing... Thanks and Cheers ! ...🤠...
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Christopher !
@b4uloveme
@b4uloveme 9 ай бұрын
Thank you sir for the nice video, how do you like it compares to fg5?
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
A lot louder, brighter and is better for leads...but not nearly as good sound as the FG5 overall...nor comfort...FG5 is so light, warm and resonant. Like the neck better too...just feels more comfortable.
@espcustom
@espcustom 10 ай бұрын
Great review and guitar. Do you have a favorite out of your 6 Yams ? How woukd you score your FG5 out of the bunch ?
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 9 ай бұрын
FG5 all the way...however LL16 is a very close second....If I was going to a kitchen jam LL16 all the way - loud as hell when you want to come on to it and cuts right through other instruments on leads...
@mattsmith2051
@mattsmith2051 7 ай бұрын
Have you compared the LT16 and LL16? Do you have a preference and why?
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 7 ай бұрын
@@mattsmith2051 I do have an LS6 (16 is all solid woods) and it is an OOO size so smaller….great for finger picking, comfort and light strumming…much quieter than a dred.
@peterteacher3681
@peterteacher3681 4 ай бұрын
Are you from the north? Nice playing btw
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 4 ай бұрын
@@peterteacher3681 Yes, live an hour north of Toronto, Canada. Thank you.
@fischman26-China
@fischman26-China Ай бұрын
I am looking for one of these. However, there is none to be found locally to try and I am leery about buying an acoustic without trying it first. We'll see if something changes.
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 Ай бұрын
Always a good idea to play them especially used ones for sure. I have bought some new guitars without playing them first and some no problems and some not so good so it’s hit and miss. Keep in mind too the LL6 is also around and I’ve played some and they are excellent too.
@banjo1434
@banjo1434 6 ай бұрын
How are mediums on this guitar? I put 13s on a dread as soon as i get it home. Lights are for my OMs.
@jamesdoctor8079
@jamesdoctor8079 6 ай бұрын
Mediums on this rule. Acoustic shoppe has a video demo of the LL16 and LL16M using mediums. Mine is set up with John Pearse Mediums, way better sound than the light 80/20s they come with (for bluegrass anyway). If you’re doing fingerstyle exclusively, then after a couple of weeks the bench strings actually sound fine
@Wobbz9413
@Wobbz9413 5 ай бұрын
I personally think that 12s suit this guitar. But whatever your personal choice. I hope you get a lot of enjoyment if you buy one. I love mine.
@dalesearcy5734
@dalesearcy5734 7 ай бұрын
I just got an LL-16D and love it. I was looking for a great sounding guitar to back up/replace my Martin D-35 as a stage guitar. The LL-16D is just what I was looking for. Love the added Bling that the D model has. I will be replacing the plastic saddle soon and expect the guitar to sound even better with a new bone saddle.
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 7 ай бұрын
Awesome ! Solid guitars all around !! 👍🎶🎵😎
@azcharlie2009
@azcharlie2009 6 ай бұрын
Would that be a Martin D28 in the background? And, $50 bucks for a pick?? AYSM? I don't care how good I get, I'll never spend that much on a pick. However, your playing is superb!
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
Martin DX1AE….and as to the pick…lol…never thought I would either but did…and thank you for the compliment!
@mainoffenders4662
@mainoffenders4662 5 ай бұрын
Do you know if the rosewood is Indian rosewood?
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 5 ай бұрын
Rosewood. Indian Rosewood is very expensive and hard to get these days.
@user-vz6sb3kh1r
@user-vz6sb3kh1r 9 ай бұрын
К меня вопрос, а LL-16M сильно уступает корпусу из палисандра?
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
No, the mahogany is a warmer tone and probably the LL16M takes a lot of brights away which on this guitar is probably better. I would like to try the mahogany one at some point.
@stephensmith60
@stephensmith60 8 ай бұрын
When you replaced the bridge (with bone), what radii did you go with? 12"? I'm with my third Yamaha. I really like them. But - I haven't had the LL16 yet. Nice looking.
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
Don't know to tell you the truth...ordered it custom from Bob Colosi custom saddles to the guitar.
@stephensmith60
@stephensmith60 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesmacdon9351 That's alright. I think the majority of guitars are 15". That sure is a beaut! Thanks for the reply. 😊.
@eduardkornejev7910
@eduardkornejev7910 8 ай бұрын
Hi James.which combo can you recommend for apartment.I have FSX5 YAMAHA
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
You mean for recording? What do you mean by 'combo'
@eduardkornejev7910
@eduardkornejev7910 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesmacdon9351 I mean,some amplifier for connecting guitar
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
Fishman acoustic amp.
@eduardkornejev7910
@eduardkornejev7910 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesmacdon9351 James did you figure out what to do with pick guard, it's terrible noise from him
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
Yes, used a hairdryer and it lifted right off slowly. Under it is a regular black shiny one.
@debabratasikder9448
@debabratasikder9448 10 ай бұрын
What was the recording device?
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 9 ай бұрын
Aston Origin mic, Boss BR800 as audio interface, Cakewalk DAW, Slate plug ins.
@debabratasikder9448
@debabratasikder9448 9 ай бұрын
@@jamesmacdon9351 Thank you!
@SteveMiller-yw7kv
@SteveMiller-yw7kv 9 ай бұрын
Did it make a big difference to change to the bone saddle?
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
Not really - a little more sustain and resonance perhaps, but I have since put back in the urea and seems about best.
@tractordirt
@tractordirt 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesmacdon9351Thanks! Was going to ask that… Appreciate it. Great video! Nice demo and fine playing. Interesting pick information as well!
@banjo1434
@banjo1434 6 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with Yamaha urea. Save your pennies and spend it elsewhere .
@SteveMiller-yw7kv
@SteveMiller-yw7kv 6 ай бұрын
@jamesmacdon9351 I just recently tuned mine down a whole step..I believe that is the sweet spot for the ll16..really mellows it down..
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
@@SteveMiller-yw7kv Gonna try that..good suggestion…probably will give it a more woody bassy tone..
@kratosbinhcs
@kratosbinhcs 4 ай бұрын
Hi James. What string gauge do you use on this guitar
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 4 ай бұрын
12-53. Elixir Nanoweb 80/20.
@kratosbinhcs
@kratosbinhcs 4 ай бұрын
@@jamesmacdon9351 Thank you.
@mattsmith2051
@mattsmith2051 7 ай бұрын
What does the pencil lead do in the nut?
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 7 ай бұрын
If it’s a plastic or urea nut it keeps friction away.
@banjo1434
@banjo1434 6 ай бұрын
​@@jamesmacdon9351good tip. Or should I say point? 🤔
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
@@banjo1434 lol
@truthray2885
@truthray2885 9 ай бұрын
Does that 5 ply neck eliminate neck bending due to string tension? I imagine that's the purpose behind it, but does it work?
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
Yes, neck is extremely solid and firm.
@wjdavey3
@wjdavey3 Ай бұрын
❤️🎶🎵👍🎶🎵🙏😎
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 Ай бұрын
Thank you ! 🤓
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 10 ай бұрын
Yamaha can't meet the demand for these guitars, expect price increases soon, or maybe not!
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 9 ай бұрын
Yep, waited 2 years to get an FG5 here in Canada.
@jamesdoctor8079
@jamesdoctor8079 6 ай бұрын
Disagree about the Bluechip. It clearly sounds better than all the picks you demonstrated. But while recording, the song dictates the pick being used. For bluegrass lead style, you can’t get better than the Bluechip. There are other cheaper picks that have similar attack, but they’re all very noticeably reaching for the same sound as the Bluechip.
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
Yes there are many fans of the Bluechip picks…I am not one…I do not play bluegrass and primarily and overwhelmingly I should have read reviews before purchase….love it though for electric where I mostly play heavier blues and rock…
@cugir321
@cugir321 10 ай бұрын
It is a terrible pickup system for this guitar.....treble is horrible when you play out in a bar environment. The best you can do is use a 10 band EQ. You must get 16k band almost completely out to smooth out the ice sound! 10 oclock for treble, bass, mid on a fishman loud mini amp....maybe even lower for treble. I disagree with you on the frets....those medium frets will wear out quick if you capo. Yamaha's customer service is horrible now....used to be great. It does have great sustain and overtones....action is stiffer them most guitars even with a low action but this does help with tone/volume. I like my 710-S better....I refretted it with jumbo's and it's awaesome.....not as much sustain as the LL-16 but still great. The studio people didn't play it because it's too trebly! For finger picking it okay....with a pick...too many problems with a recording.
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 9 ай бұрын
Yes I can certainly agree on the pick up - does the trick but you certainly have more experience with using it than me so very good points. I have a 700S and it is awesome ! I do use a capo but not so much. I also have an FG5 and that's my fav now. I do not gig anymore, mostly write and record and goof around now. Ironically I bought it from a producer in Toronto whom owned a studio and he did say his musicians did not play it so he was selling to get a Martin. I have found it records well if played very light or fingerpicked but it is in fact very loud and more mids/highs. Great for a kitchen jam as it cuts through all the other instruments and when one does a solo it cuts. It is as you say stiffer too than most dreds however does not bother me much in that regard....they all have their quirks. Built tough as hell though...can't kill it...lol
@robruitenberg4064
@robruitenberg4064 7 ай бұрын
I really liked and would be my prime choice only problem I have is the beefy neck I do t k ow if I could get used to it I don’t like it I wonder if you could recommend anything with all the qualities of the LL and in price but with a little bit smaller neck and not so lacquered neck either :(
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 7 ай бұрын
Try and FG 830, 840 or 850….less money as solid top but laminate back and sides but a thinner girth , satin type neck but this FG 800 and up line are absolutely top notch….and once you upgrade to bone nut/saddle and put a K and K mini in them, a pro level guitar all around. Tuners could be upgraded as well for perfection. A Taylor 110e is also a fantastic guitar - solid woods but a beefy neck somewhat too. A great guitar as well is the Inspired by Gibson Epiphone Hummingbird all wood bone nut/saddle and good pick up system and satin neck. Not so loud unplugged but a warm sounding and even dred.
@robruitenberg4064
@robruitenberg4064 7 ай бұрын
bro thank you sō much. @@jamesmacdon9351
@robruitenberg4064
@robruitenberg4064 7 ай бұрын
@@jamesmacdon9351 Would tuners make a difference on the sound as wel? Yeh I looked at those ll tuners not my choice don't particularly like gold on guitars so they'll have to go. Would you have advice on a good tuning mechanism?
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 7 ай бұрын
@@robruitenberg4064 Grover’s are good ones. And tuners don’t make a difference in sound but the more precise the more it stays in perfect tune.
@maciejpatek2141
@maciejpatek2141 7 ай бұрын
It'well made. Looks superb. Tuning perfect BUT...the sound is so brittle, so ice picky ...mainly in person So annoying that I sold it
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
Yes, it is a very bright guitar - I find it suits leads and kitchen jams...cuts through anything...I also found that bringing the neck relief down to about 003 and a low saddle warmed it up a lot and took away a lot of the high harshness....
@tractordirt
@tractordirt 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesmacdon9351Darker string ls could mellow it too
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 6 ай бұрын
@@tractordirt For sure !
@dougbourgeois747
@dougbourgeois747 5 ай бұрын
I have a bone saddle on my ll16 sunburst and had bone pegs which were great but had the brittle harshness . Changed to Ebony pins because I really liked them on my Martin dx1rae. Mellowed it out nicely. Harshness is gone. Went from elixirs to d’addario xs and imho turned it into pro status! Really enjoyed your video
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 5 ай бұрын
@@dougbourgeois747 Thank you Doug. I too have ebony pins in mine but went back to the urea nut/saddle. It’s funny how D’Addario XS 80/20s sound phenomenal on my Martin DX1AE and I was using them on almost all my acoustics (LL16, LS6, FG5, FG 180-1, FG 331 and FG700S) however what got me back to Elixir Nanoweb 80/20s was my FG5 which the XS sounded okay but a lot of warmth left so went back. Then when I loaded all my other guitars (except my DX1AE and Guild GAD 50) with the Elixirs they too warmed up a lot….and as I have learned over the years every guitar is different and one’s ears often change….lol…next month I could be back to bone saddles and nuts and XS on ‘em….ha ha
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