🎹 Yamaha P145 vs Roland FP10 Digital Piano Comparison, Review & Demo 🎹

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Introduction
The newly released Yamaha P145 is the best-selling digital piano in the USD500 range. Today, we’ll be comparing it to the Roland FP-10, the oldest digital piano in this category, having launched in late 2019.
What’s the right piano for you and does the new outdo the old?
Specifications
Roland FP-10
The Roland FP-10 comes with 96 notes of polyphony and two six-watt downward-facing speakers. Its SuperNATURAL tone engine is one version prior to the current one, and it has 15 onboard voices; expanding to 34 when used in conjunction with the Roland piano app.
The FP-10 comes with built-in Bluetooth MIDI to connect Bluetooth-enabled mobile devices and to connect wirelessly to the app.
With a PHA-4 action, a pro-level action available in a wide variety of Roland models, you get great weighting, a triple sensor, escapement simulation, and a nice texture on both the black and white keys. This is the most current version of the action with an improved factory application and type of grease that keeps the key lubricated and click-free even if the piano is stored on its side.
This is not a renamed version of Ivory Feel G action, and getting this action at this price point is impressive
Yamaha P-145
The Yamaha P-145 comes with 64 notes of polyphony and two seven-watt backward-facing speakers. It comes with the CFIIIS tone generator, as opposed to the CFX which is used in higher-level models and has 10 onboard sounds.
The CFIIIS is a more simplified tone engine than the Roland SuperNATURAL with one engine versus Roland’s four.
While there is no built-in Bluetooth MIDI included, there is an adaptor available for purchase.
The P-145 has a compact action, similar to the updated 125 and 225, with a shortened pivot length and increased weighting. The downside of this is that there is a greater resistance differential from the front to the back of the keys. That being said, this would only really be noticeable to more advanced players.
Yamaha has kept shiny white keytops and matte black keys from earlier models.
Both of these digital pianos can layer two sounds and have basics like an onboard metronome.
Stu’s Thoughts
While there are still features of the Roland that are better than the Yamaha, the Yamaha has dramatically improved over the Roland in two areas. Foremost is the speaker reconfiguration. The P-145 puts out not only more sound but a more balanced sound than the FP-10. The inclusion of sound ports in the top of the keyboard provides some secondary tone to the player, similar to having a small tweeter. This makes the Yamaha clearly better when it comes to the volume and detail of sound.
That being said the Roland piano tone is more complex and dynamic, and when listening with headphones, the speaker benefit becomes mute. The feel of the keys on the Yamaha when playing more challenging repertoire is still an issue, but the audience for the P-145 is not a professional player.
Cost
The Roland costs USD599, CDN849, and weighs 30 lbs. The Yamaha is available for USD500, CDN799 and weighs just under 25 lbs; one of the lightest on the market.
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@Zoco101 4 ай бұрын

Another very professional review from Stu at Merriam.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly! We're glad you enjoyed it! :)

@richarpadilla1891 4 ай бұрын

Great video as always Stu ! your advice is very important to me as a pianist !

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for tuning in! We're happy to hear you enjoyed Stu's review! :)

@_DarthSidious_ 4 ай бұрын

Arriving on Tuesday im excited!! Ive gone from a KORG B1 to a ROLAND FP-30X i've done all my research and am really excited will it be a significant notice in upgrade as its almost double the KORG,s price back when i got it years ago. Just wanted your opinion also love the channel 😊

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Congrats! The FP30X is a powerhouse! You will be beyond thrilled with what it offers musically. Thanks for tuning in and all the best! :)

@_DarthSidious_ 4 ай бұрын

@@MerriamPianos thanks for the swift reply and extra bit of confidence that I've chosen what's right for my needs!

@robintyson591 4 ай бұрын

Great. It's such a personal thing and, as you always say, people must go and FEEL and LISTEN to them. I'm afraid I had a Yamaha. Never again. Spent my life using the soft pedal to get rid of the brittle harshness of the sound. Switched to Kawai (love it) and, at my mother's home, the FP10. Very satisfied. Great sounds (all of them) and a very satisfying action. Speakers have never worried me - I've played for quite large groups of people with the keyboard. I like the relatively low weight too. I use my mother's walker to move the piano around her retirement complex to play for them all! But the headphone output is very weak, so (and I have three different sets - including Bose and Grado and Sennheiser) I never got the volume I wanted from them. Love the new Roland app as well.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experiences and insights! We appreciate it. The ES120 and FP10 are both exceptional pianos that simply offer a slightly different musical flavour and feel. Both of them present excellent cost-to-value ratio of course though! Thanks so much once again and happy playing! :)

@Zoco101 4 ай бұрын

@@MerriamPianosES120? Not mentioned it seems.

@mfurman 4 ай бұрын

The headphone output of most of the digital pianos is too low but FP-10 is very bad in this respect (P-225 is not much better and Casio PX-S5000 is even worse). I use Sennheiser HD 600 and HiFiMan headphones.

@sammie_nl 4 ай бұрын

Thanks Stu! So happy with my Roland FP-10 purchase a month ago based on your videos! still can't believe the price diffrence though, i got it brand new for 380 Euros which is about 410 bucks US, not 600. Anyway, really glad to see the Roland still is a good choice even if it is an older model :)

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Hi! Brent here! Congrats on your FP10! It sounds like you got a great deal on a really fantastic instrument. The price points do vary from market to market of course, but it sounds like the pricing is very attractive where you are. :)

@karanbhatia2834 4 ай бұрын

@sammie_nl Could you let me know where did you get FP 10 for 380?

@sammie_nl 4 ай бұрын

@@karanbhatia2834 It was at bax music in the Netherlands

@acoustic61 4 ай бұрын

You do good unbiased reviews! IMO, Roland is genarally a better value. You get more useful features for the money. I bought an FP-30X for less than either of these. Yamaha is almost never discounted. I do wish both companies would include better sounding samples on lower end pianos. The Roland Piano App gives more sounds to play around with but most of them are not high quality. Hopefully, over time, they'll improve some of the sounds on the App. I've been experimenting with MIDI and VST's. Some VST's are very good. BTW, I've seen a lot of reviews for the Yamaha DGX-670. I think people tend to be gaga over the quality of the samples and disregard it's shortcomings.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Congrats on your FP30X! It is a heckuva piano with a great touch, tone, and speaker system. Knowing Roland, I am quite confident that you'll see continuous updating of their apps and additional features. They are always on the cutting edge when it comes to these things. :)

@danielnadar75 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video❤ I own the FP-10 from past 2.5 years and i love it, it’s the best investment of the limited funds i had when i decided to start learning piano! Now I’m at an intermediate level and will be late intermediate level but the end of this year and have decided to get a kawai GL-10 in 4-5 months time as a reward to all the time I’m spending on this beautiful instrument. With that said I’ll still keep my favourite FP-10 with me for silent practice late nights or early morning or to record my playing! Just wanted to know how were you able to capture the FP-10 sound directly as line out? If I’m not wrong it doesn’t that direct line out hence i use it as midi to record in GarageBand. Is that feature got added to FP-10 recently??

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Hi there! Brent from Merriam Music here! We're glad you enjoyed the video. :) The Kawai GL10 is an amazing piano and unquestionably one of the best cost-to-value ratios on the market right now. I know you will be very happy with that model! Furthermore, I think it is a great idea to keep the FP10 to serve as a portable or silent practice option when needed. In terms of capturing the direct line-out sound, that is achieved by taking the headphone output. While this output is usually lower output than a dedicated line-out, it still serves as a direct output feed from the tone engine. Thanks and hope this helps!

@briandsteel6711 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for a VERY intelligent and interesting comparison review. I have just ONE comment I hope you will take on board ... the issue of Key PIVOT length! As a professional musician (pianist, MD, others stuff too), is possibly one of the MOST important things in any keyboard I would consider playing. Like, give me a Steinway Model D for starters, and work back from there. However, I also need keyboards that don't cost the earth, to chuck in the back of a car for an ad-hoc outdoor gig. But still NEED those to have flexible, natural, LONG-PIVOT actions, because YES - I consider ANY part of the exposed parts of the keyboard, to be my playing surface. And on THIS one aspect, and based on your video, AND as a life-long Yamaha player - I think the Roland FP10 wins out here! But again, THANKS. Great comparative review. But please always bear in mind, even PROS want cheap keyboards for dodgy locations! :-)

@MerriamPianos 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for tuning in and for the feedback! Every player is a bit different of course and different elements will be more/less important to to different players. With that said, we do our best to tackle all of the pertinent topics to make sure that everyone feels informed about the design elements that they prioritize or consider important. To that point, I think a deep dive video that tackles pivot lengths of various digital piano actions would be extremely exciting and compelling! Thank you for the suggestion. We really appreciate it! :)

@SeanNeale 4 ай бұрын

Looking for a value option for some silent nighttime practise and probably going with the Roland or a Kawai ES120. When I upgrade the acoustic piano would you recommend the Kawai GL10 or save the extra and get a K800?

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

The FP10 and ES120 are both excellent choices! The decision between a GL10 and K800 is a highly personal and subjective matter of course. Personally, I would choose the K800 as it is a higher quality instrument and soundboard, which leads to a nicer, more nuanced tone (which is saying something considering how great the GL10 sounds!). But, a grand piano comes with its benefits of course: the feel of the action thanks to gravity and the aesthetic factor.

@SeanNeale 4 ай бұрын

@@MerriamPianos thank you for the detailed answer : )

@knives6683 4 ай бұрын

Roland FP and HP must be getting close to a refresh. @miriam, is there any murmers?

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

We have not received any updates from Roland on that front, but we will keep you posted if we do! :)

@Philip---pip267 4 ай бұрын

I purchased the Roland only recently, without trying out the competitors, and relying on research alone, - a bit of a gamble as I had never even sampled the Roland's action. I must say, I think I made the right choice, as i wanted the most realistic action as a priority over features and in built sound. Im more than satisfied, having since tried the yamaha and a similarly priced korg.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Congrats on your new Roland! They are wonderful pianos with excellent touch and tone. I think you will be thrilled with the investment for many years to come. Thanks for tuning in and sharing your experiences! :)

@franksmith541 Ай бұрын

I agree. The Roland FP 10 has the best action for that price you will ever get. I was floored by how good it is after owning a Yamaha P 45 and a P 145. You have to spend 3000 on a Yamaha digital to get action as good. If you hold a key with thumb and second finger, bring it down a bit and jiggle it, you can feel hammers banging around inside the keys. That is fantastic and gives it an authentic grand piano feel, together with the textured keys - which you never get on other brands of this price. The Yamaha P 145 is no where near as good, and the keys make a rattling sound. With the FP 10 the keys are fairly quiet when playing on low volume without headphones. I know, because when I do a video recording I hardly hear any sound from the keys, but with the P 145 I was hearing loud rattling sounds. I have way more control when playing the FP 10 compared to the P 145, because the latter's action is lighter and no where near as good.

@Philip---pip267 Ай бұрын

@@franksmith541 thank you. 4 months later on and i'm still over the moon with it. The PHA 4 action plus optional use as a midi controller were the only things I was bothered about. It's for home use not stage, and if you really want more powerful and rich sound you can always use an amplifier with external speakers. And more sounds are optional too by the app if required. I did get the chance to compare the yamaha afterwards, and I never expected to find such an incredible difference. Well pleased. I have since purchased the authentic Roland wooden stand and seat. It looks great in the dining room.

@franksmith541 Ай бұрын

@@Philip---pip267 I also got the wooden stand. It looks good in the living room. This really is an instrument for piano players interested in good sound and, most importantly, an authentic action.

@DonguriGaming 4 ай бұрын

Which key action among digital piano's in a budget have the best fast single note repetition? RH3, PHA-4 or other?

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

The RHC action on the ES120 is very quick and responsive in terms of repetition. With that said, it is a little lighter and does not feature escapement like the RHIII and PHA4 actions.

@dubua2695 3 ай бұрын

I must say... from all the features and also the way the FP10 is built, also from watching this video the sound of the FP10 sounds way more rich than the sound of the P145. I'm about to get Keys again and think the FP10 might be the better choice... Thank you for this great video

@MerriamPianos 3 ай бұрын

You are very welcome! Thank you for watching! We appreciate it! The FP10 is an awesome piano and is definitely worth consideration! :)

@hyperseah 4 ай бұрын

Has anyone opened up a P-145 or P-225 and check if the keys are pivoted or hinged? By hinged I mean the key has a flexible part bending instead of a pivot pin. I briefly tried it at a Yamaha Music School, and it felt like the key is still flexing on a thin section of plastic. But when it comes to speakers, I like Yamaha best because it has a pair of tweeters.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

I am not entirely sure to be honest. Perhaps, we will need to tackle a video where we pull the actions on these various pianos to investigate. :)

@hyperseah 4 ай бұрын

@@MerriamPianos That would make a great video.

@grezchannel2103 3 ай бұрын

I just went to the store and tried playing yamaha P145 and Roland FP30X. Initially I wanted a Roland but after playing all the keys and feel the touch, I made up my mind. I choose P145, the graded hammer and sound system is just wow. Roland sounds too artificial and the touch totally isn't my preference. I thought I wanted Roland after watching so many reviews on KZfaq. But you have to try it yourself playing both of them at the store! The sound differs from the ones in YT. But if you want to record a lot, just go for Roland! Again, it's all based on preferences =D

@MerriamPianos 3 ай бұрын

Absolutely! It is a really personal and subjective matter. That is why it is important to test out the pianos in person whenever possible. Congrats on your new piano and happy playing! :)

@m3rc743 4 ай бұрын

About time

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for tuning in! :)

@crisoliveira2644 4 ай бұрын

1:19 That actually appears to be the PHA-4 Concert, not PHA-4 Standard. Standard is the one in slab models like the FP10.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Yes - Roland does not have a formal stock image of the PHA4 standard, so I believe this image was used as a place holder. We usually put a disclaimer at the bottom of the diagram to specify when another generation of the action is used in place of the one being discussed. Apologies for missing that this time!

@mfurman 4 ай бұрын

All I can say is that after three weeks, I returned Yamaha P-225 (slightly better P-145) and got FP-10 ACR (in a Costco bundle). I went through quite a few digital pianos in the last three years (including Roland FP-90X and Yamaha P-515) but I am back to the basic PHA-4 action keyboard that I use as a MIDI controller for my piano VSTs. I am only interested in acoustic piano sound without any bells and whistles. PHA-4 action appeared to be relatively close to Yamaha C7 grand piano action that I regularly practice on.

@matiaserp 4 ай бұрын

Agreed: the PHA-4 Standard is a really good action regardless of price.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

The PHA4 holds up as an amazing and impressive action for playing at any level. As you mentioned, it really isn't all about price and quality tier. Sometimes, more inexpensive actions/pianos can provide a more satisfying musical experience. :)

@acoustic61 4 ай бұрын

I have an FP-30X and have been playing around with VST's too. It opens up a whole new world. Especially when you get bored with piano. I wish Roland supplied better quality samples for the other sounds. But I guess that's how they tempt you to upgrade to a higher model.

@Zoco101 4 ай бұрын

I thing it's cool that the FP10 has a basic sequencer for recording what you play onto a thumb drive. Yamaha and Korg don't offer this at entry level, and Kawai doesn't even have a model near this low pricepoint.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

The Roland FP10 is quite the instrument when you consider its price tag! :)

@stevenwarner9156 4 ай бұрын

Nice little comparison. Your reviews are part of the reason I ended up choosing an FP-10 a month ago. The speakers are definitely extremely mediocre, but the sound over headphones is absolutely fantastic. The action is very good, but the keys are a fraction sluggish in returning to neutral. Fast trills or repeated notes can take some getting used to, and your speed for fast repeated notes might be hampered a bit compared to other actions. But, it feels like a minor issue that might matter to some but likely not most.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly! We appreciate the kind words as well as you sharing your insights. The FP10 is a powerhouse instrument for the money. I know what you mean about having to get used to the heavier touch and slower key return, but there are also benefits to this of course. I personally feel this provides a far greater sense of control and connectivity compared to very light digital piano actions.

@stevenwarner9156 4 ай бұрын

@@MerriamPianos I absolutely agree with it being a powerhouse for the money. An action this solid at THIS price? Pretty much worth the price of admittance in itself. Anyway, always great to see your videos. Hope you have a good weekend!

@brightenjacob 4 ай бұрын

Please review Keybird X1 soon.. 😅😅

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

I was just recently made aware of this model by a customer. It seems quite interesting. Unfortunately, we are not dealers, so it may be tough to tackle this review. As always, we will do our best. :)

@liammautner3063 4 ай бұрын

Is a P525 review/comparison coming soon?

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Yup - it is in the queue!

@pieterdeliho1492 4 ай бұрын

Fp-10 it is. If the action is that good. I like the slow return since it closely resembles a real acoustic piano.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely! The FP10 is very difficult to compete with at this price point. It has a wonderful touch and tone! :)

@mfurman 4 ай бұрын

Stu made a mistake. PHA-4 middle C downweight is at least 63g not “middle 50s”. I had four digital pianos with PHA-4 action. Here are the values for my FP-10 ACR: Action: Middle C (C4) - 67g C7 - 53g C6 - 59g C2 - ~66g C3 - 65.5g C4# - ~53g - 67g (middle of black key) ~ 94 g to get the sound (T) C4; C2, C3 - 90g, C6 - 79g, C7 - 74g (S)

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for clarifying! Stu was approximating of course in the video, but these exact values are appreciated. :)

@unotoli 4 ай бұрын

Quite a surprise to see FP-10 holding on. But unless you are 100% about VST (mini only), FP-30X is much better choice (sound, speakers and even features).

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

The FP30X is certainly a step up, but the FP10 still holds up as a fantastic option for the price point! :)

@lumpichu 4 ай бұрын

Or the ES-120 :)

@mfurman 4 ай бұрын

I indeed only use piano VSTs sound so FP-10 is a much better choice for me. I just need a MIDI controller

@sonic2000gr 4 ай бұрын

I suspect the FP10 wins on the action and the Yamaha on sound. I find the PHA4 action very playable. You need to go higher on the Yamaha line for something similar. Having said that I really love the action and sound of my P515! The prices for both P145 and FP10 in Europe are about the same (about 10 euros apart). In my opinion it's worth paying just a bit extra for FP30X or P225.

@mfurman 4 ай бұрын

I had to return P-515 after a few months because the heaviness of NWX action impacted my fingers (especially fifth digits)

@sonic2000gr 4 ай бұрын

@@mfurman I had no prior experience with weighted actions before (just synth actions) and before buying I've read about this. It felt a bit awkward and heavy at first but I'm now used to it and believe it's really excellent.

@mfurman 4 ай бұрын

@@sonic2000gr NWX action is heavier that what an acoustic piano should be - C4 downweight is 85g.

@Zoco101 4 ай бұрын

@sonic2000gr Well said! I agree. I can't get used to the old FP sounds, and then the FP10 speakers make it worse. The FP-30X is much better.

@mfurman 4 ай бұрын

@@Zoco101 The sound does not matter to me because I always use my piano VSTs. This is why I returned/sold both FP-90X and P-515 - their features were completely irrelevant to me.

@franksmith541 Ай бұрын

The Roland FP 10 has the best action for that price you will ever get. I was floored by how good it is after owning a Yamaha P 45 and then a P 145. You have to spend 3000 on a Yamaha digital to get action as good. If you hold a key with thumb and second finger, bring it down a bit and jiggle it, you can feel hammers banging around inside the keys. That is fantastic and gives it an authentic grand piano feel, together with the textured keys - which you never get on other brands of this price. The FP 10 also has a better piano sound. The Yamaha P 145 is no where near as good, and the keys make a rattling sound. With the FP 10 the keys are fairly quiet when playing on low volume without headphones. I know, because when I do a video recording I hardly hear any sound from the keys, but with the P 145 I was hearing loud rattling sounds. I have way more control when playing the FP 10 compared to the P 145, because the latter's action is lighter and no where near as good.

@MerriamPianos Ай бұрын

The Roland FP10 is quite the powerhouse that greatly outperforms its price tag - that is for sure! We're very happy to hear that you've discovered it and have been enjoying the model and its wonderful PHA4 action. Thanks so much and happy playing! :)

@stenaldomehilli8809 4 ай бұрын

I still insist that someone should let Roland know, that their Supernatural sound engine does better in terms of reproducing the authenticity of an acoustic than their newly modeled generator in the FP-90X. If one really works in the supernatural engine and fixes a few things i'm sure that sound engine will deserve a top place in all their most expensive pianos. It does sound good! I purchased the FP30 almost 4 years ago also thanks to Stu's splendid reviews, but it was really easy to see how well done that piano sound was compared to the competition. Now 4 years later it still holds its place with ease, showing us again how stalled the technology of digital piano making really is. Thanks as always!

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the kind words and support! I know Stu and our production team appreciate them immensely. We're happy to hear that you are still enjoying your Roland FP30. It is a fantastic piano with a great touch and tone! While there are many pianists out there that share your sentiments about the SuperNATURAL tone engine, tonal preferences are very subjective. The context of use also matters too of course. Some players find the SuperNATURAL tones to be more authentic given their sample-based infrastructure. With that said, the Pure Acoustic Piano Modelling engine on the FP90X has its fanbase (and for good reason!). It is extremely flexible and offers immense customization. It is particularly a strong preference for players in the pop realm or gigging with ensembles. With that said, it all comes down to finding a tone that you resonate with. It sounds like you have found that in the SuperNATURAL engine, which still holds up as one of the most natural-sounding and best value engines on the market. Thanks again and happy playing! :)

@stenaldomehilli8809 4 ай бұрын

Brent it’s very meaningful that you take the time to respond to people’s questions and ideas in your channel. I wonder if that’s better than your musical reviews! Thanks a lot ! I think the authenticity of reproducing a certain sound cannot be subjective. Something either sounds like something else or it doesn’t. But that aside people might like sounds which bring their own quality in the world of pianos and every other instruments for that matter. The modeled pianos from Roland do just that. The sampled ones from Nord do the total opposite. It’s good we can choose but it would also be good if the digital piano companies would speed up their game and close at least slightly the gap with VSTs. @@MerriamPianos

@blu3bat84 4 ай бұрын

So the keys of the yamaha feel less heavy? Bc I prefer heavier action.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

In my experiences, the FP10 is a heavier touch, which feels more authentic to my fingers. However, this is a very subjective matter of course. :)

@Roberto-qb2dj 4 ай бұрын

Ciao, mi diverto a provarli nel negozio di strumenti musicali. Preferisco la tastiera di Roland ed il suono di Yamaha. Il prezzo di Roland fp10 in Italia è davvero basso meno di 400,00 eur. Un vero best buy.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

For sure! It is always best to test pianos out and compare them in person whenever possible. I can certainly understand your preference being the FP10 for touch and P145 for tone. I tend to prioritize touch given that it is the invariable component of a piano. You can always plug a piano into an amplifier for more speaker power or access VST sample libraries via MIDI for different piano sounds, but you are stuck with the action ultimately.

@matiaserp 4 ай бұрын

Roland could easily add the BMC chip and improve the speakers a bit and bam, FP-10X would be a tremendous success.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

It is interesting to see what Roland does with an update to the FP10. An FP10X as you described would be quite exciting! :)

@chrishalle1982 Ай бұрын

Im still very satisfied with my FP10

@MerriamPianos Ай бұрын

That is awesome to hear! It is a very wonderful piano with tons of value packed into it! :)

@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 4 ай бұрын

Wonder why Yamaha desided to slim down the P45, and P125's replacements. This just makes me a lot more greatfull I got the DGX. Also great job on Kawai for givving the ES110's replacement what it really needed which is a stronger case. The ES110 always felt a bit flimzy. Yeah Kawai wasn't in this compareson. Just thought I mention what I've noticed🎹🎶

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for tuning in! A more streamlined enclosure has its benefits of course, particularly to gigging musicians, but, like most things in the realm of music/pianos, it comes down to personal preferences and priorities of the individual.

@vincentlee2221 Күн бұрын

is fp10 still worth it rn? since they released it on 2018 please help me T-T they cost 545$ on my country

@MerriamPianos Күн бұрын

Hi! Brent here! In my opinion, the FP10 is still one of the best value buys on the market right now. The combination of touch and tone is quite impressive. :)

@yamaha-bq9ws 4 ай бұрын

Too many people report PHA 4 notorious clicking action noise problem - from basic FP10, through FP 30, up to more expensive RP series. Its seems universal, and ragged from Rolands side. Their narration (now) is to blame the customer. Firstly they said, it was fault of vertical storage at container ship, now it switched to at home closets. For me, the situation is not a synonym for a serious company. Personally - PHA 4 action is too slow, too heavy and not so responsive throuout. Kawai; even basic RHC, doing much better job, even on entry level price point

@mfurman 4 ай бұрын

I agree that PHA-4 is noisy. GHC action is probably the most quiet action I played but I still ended up with PHA-4 because it is actually relatively similar to an acoustic piano action. I stopped paying attention to the noise of the action (Yamaha C7 action is even noisier and I usually play on FP-10 ACR with my headphones on.

@damorim 4 ай бұрын

@yamaha-bq9ws, What do you mean by “too many people”? Do you have stats on that?

@yamaha-bq9ws 4 ай бұрын

@@mfurman If so, I would compare PHA 4 action to an upright - slightly unregulated, clunky, older, heavy action upright. Nowhere near to lighter grand piano action. I do agree though, that yamahas { any } grand piano is more on heavier side in terms of touch.

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Hi - Brent from Merriam Music here. I believe this to be a bit of a fallacy based on our experiences with the Roland line and models that utilize the PHA4 action. In fact, upon doing a thorough report on warranty claim rates across all of the piano lines/models we represent, I can confirm that the PHA4 action has one of the lowest warranty claim rates of any action at any price point. Beyond the PHA4 action's reliability, it is also one of the most authentic feeling actions on the market that is available in the entry-level price range. While some players may find the action to be on the heavy side, this can often be a byproduct of not having much experience with acoustic pianos. A heavier touch is better for technique building and also provides a greater sense of connectivity to the player, which, in turn, allows them to control articulations and dynamics far better. Like anything new of course, it does take a bit of time to adapt to a heavier touch though. But the benefits are very worth while!

@yamaha-bq9ws 4 ай бұрын

@@damorim On most popular piano forum, as well as on youtube. Search for PHA 4 clicking problem and see some shorts - many shall I say. It ranges basic FP line of pianos, up to more expensive RP and HP. From east to west of the globe. Some elements of action are flawed, and Roland burden the blame on customers

@JebbyJoseph 4 ай бұрын

Is the click problem in fp10 solved ?

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Personally, aside from isolated incidents, I have not experienced a clicky key problem with the FP10 or PHA4 action. In fact, the PHA4 action has one of the lowest warranty claim rates across every single manufacture/model that we carry. Given that the PHA4 action is a heavier action with pronounced escapement, there will be some mechanical noise, but this is the case with virtually all actions (including acoustic piano actions, which can be demonstrated on acoustic hybrids that have a silencer on them).

@mfurman 4 ай бұрын

I do not think that is. I can always create the conditions that this noise is very clearly heard. It gets worse when you play for an hour or so. Check the video Roland FP-10 (PHA-4) Action Noise Test

@lennybellafiore1503 4 ай бұрын

Can that be right? $500 US but $799 Canadian? Canadian seems high. 699, maybe?

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

The prices do vary from market to market. $849.99 is the current price for the FP10 and $799.99 is the current price for the P145 in Canada.

@user-lr5bs8rg5c Ай бұрын

Hello, I am a 14 year old boy, which of the two do you recommend, I am an intermediate level

@MerriamPianos Ай бұрын

Hi! Brent here! It comes down to personal preference, but I would personally give the edge to the FP10. I prefer the SuperNATURAL piano tone engine and PHA4 action. I feel like they are more authentic sounding/playing. :)

@user-lr5bs8rg5c Ай бұрын

Thank you. So in your opinion, do you recommend the fp10? Since it is useful for presentations at school or graduations, for songs like Ballad for Adelina or Corazón de Niño and that is why I want a piano with a sound that resembles a professional piano.

@user-lr5bs8rg5c Ай бұрын

@@MerriamPianos If then you tell me that the fp10 is better because I need one that is a little professional because I use it to play at graduations and I want one that resembles a grand piano

@user-lr5bs8rg5c Ай бұрын

¡Holalá, answer me hehe

@NPC123UH 4 ай бұрын

You’re my boy blue, stu

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for tuning in! :)

@amirprog 4 ай бұрын

Fp10 is better for advanced playing because of the action but on the other hand, advanced player should buy something better...

@calikokat100 4 ай бұрын

such as ?

@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 4 ай бұрын

@@calikokat100something with the PHA50 if you're in to Roland🎹🎶

@MerriamPianos 4 ай бұрын

The FP10's PHA4 action is quite impressive, especially at this price point. The level of authenticity is virtually unparalleled within this price category. :)

@amirprog 4 ай бұрын

@@calikokat100 pha-50, rh3, p-525 (forgot keybed model), numa x piano gt (forgot the fatar model), nord grand (modified rh3). If you don't care about portability - mp11se.

@mfurman 4 ай бұрын

⁠I actually prefer PHA-4 to PHA50 and Yamaha both GrandTouch-S and NWX. I used both PHA50 and NWX for about one year each. PHA-4 is very noisy but I like its touch.