Yamaha R7 vs MT-07: Which Should You Buy?

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@deputydd4364 Жыл бұрын

I had superbikes for years then finally admitted to myself on the road they are pointless, so I got an MT07 so can really use it and let's be honest, the 0-70mph performance is almost the same on the road as a superbike so you don't really lose much, your riding skill easily offsets any spec advantage! I tried an R7 this year but I don't do track days, 99% of the time I'm below 80mph so the riding position on the MT is just a better all rounder. Yes, would be great to have the better front suspension on the MT and I have fitted sticker tyres on mine. Every year I test ride other bikes, nearly go for it, then have a word with myself and keep the MT!!

@SteveMuir Жыл бұрын

How about a MT 07 SP version with the brakes, forks and shocks off the R7? Now that would solve some of the decision making.

@mrazza6182 Жыл бұрын

see i got the MT because it was more available compared to the R7, but the way I ride, it’s evident that I would prefer a super sport, but damn the the MT-07 keeps up on the motorway, city riding is just more comfortable

@johnnywibowo9 Жыл бұрын

GREAT CHOICE 😁😁😁

@jamessmurf2929 Жыл бұрын

by the sound of it you dun even a 700cc. you could have been settled with a 500 or even a 400

@boris2997 Жыл бұрын

I upgraded the suspension on my MT07 front and rear for around $600 ,YSS shocks and cartridge kit . The bike rides amazing

@rabbychan Жыл бұрын

I took my first motorcycle lesson today, never even touched one in the past. For someone as inexperienced as me the MT07 felt otherwordly, I took it on the road already, what an amazing feeling!

@ozzyg82 Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the biking world! an MT07 would make a good 1st big bike too.

@rabbychan Жыл бұрын

@@ozzyg82 Thx! Yeah, this model was already in my top 3 possible choices so it's pretty damn convenient that I get to learn on it!

@ASMCourtney Жыл бұрын

I'm shopping the Husqvarna svartpilen rn for my first bike. The Mt07 might take my heart though haha

@cykablyat867 Жыл бұрын

2023 Hornet 750 just wrecked the game, mt7 is done! And I am a MT lover

@nevzatkarakaya2874 6 ай бұрын

Bende mt 7 ile hornet arasinda kaldım@@cykablyat867

@JamesBond-ph6hr Жыл бұрын

I took my mt07 for its first 1000km service. The salesman offered me to take the r7 for a spin. I came back, asked them to stop the service and just do an appraisal as I want to trade in the mt07 for the r7. The r7 is significantly more capable for my type of riding (hit the twisty roads on a Sunday). I am very, very happy with the r7. Not to mention it looks deadly in black. If you can handle the supersport riding position, get the r7.

@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын

If I had 13k€ I would

@drozdforce8853 25 күн бұрын

yeah i cant handle it iam too tall :D

@stevef152 Жыл бұрын

Have a MT-10 and the wife has a R1. We love our liter bikes. We bought a MT-07 a few weeks back and I have to say it is a blast to ride. You can just throw it around, it’s very nimble. A good two up bike as well. The he kids like to go out with us so the reason for getting the 07. Looked at getting another 10, but so glad we went with the 07. Can’t wait to get through the break in period.

@ewganhoff 10 ай бұрын

I saw a pair of R7s in the wild and they both had aftermarket exhausts. Damn, these things really sound like a big bore Ducati with the 270 crank and loud exhaust. For a second my brain was confused because at a glance it looks exactly like an R1, so the big bassy twin sound was like a glitch in the matrix.

@Harudes 7 ай бұрын

Tried them both - went with the MT. Gave me a wide grin while riding. Still does every time 😊

@GinnoNGomez Жыл бұрын

I went to yamaha today, and saw both bikes. The MT caught my eye quick. This video was great to see and Letting know which to pick 💪🏼

@FULLPELTAdventures Жыл бұрын

Great review. Really enjoyed your thoughts on these two Yamaha's that a very popular.

@ans512 Жыл бұрын

so so well put together...........great comparative vlog.

@scottyfury8105 Жыл бұрын

I am a long term MT-07 owner and I absolutely love it

@theunheardprophet4315 Жыл бұрын

The way you described what you would do with the MT just tells me that you actually want a Ténéré.

@wolfpack1696 Жыл бұрын

i have a mt07 ,first bike,,,wicked controll abs is spot on ! Total controll!

@prometheus9038 Жыл бұрын

I got an MT 07 as my first bike and that thing is nuts but also very useful, i needed a bike get to work, but also something fun and an mt 07 2019 model with an akaprovic exaust got the best of both worlds, im still a newbie so even if i get a sport bike to have fun i cant really use the bike to the limit, im not even close to do that on the mt 07 so

@perrymiller6109 Жыл бұрын

I learnt to ride on an MT-07 and test rode an R7 a few weeks back. What an engine! The MT-07 was excellent to learn on really easy to get on with and fun but for me the R7 was better I prefer sportier riding positions and the flickability of the R7 had me leaning over more in my short time with it than I’ve ever managed on my ancient Suzuki which I’ve owned for months 😂 would love an R7 but being sensible I cant afford either of these new I just wish they’d released the R7 a while back so there would be some affordable used ones about like there are MT-07’s. Only minus points for me is the tiny fuel tank on both!

@benjo3459 Жыл бұрын

Do what I'm gonna have to do and save more

@tubejorrit Жыл бұрын

I hated the new MT07 look but it has grown on me. If they made an SP version (I'm a sucker for nice suspension) I would buy one. At the moment I have a 1290 superduke but the power is just to much for the streets and its getting me in trouble someday.

@Mike_P646 Жыл бұрын

Mt09 sp then, love mine 👍

@linopontes Жыл бұрын

MT-07 SP would be nice.

@Charlie-fc1mh Жыл бұрын

I had the chance to sit on a 2022 honda fireblade 3 weeks ago and I felt like I was sitting or rather lying down on a mini bike. With my height and weight I have to have something with a more comfortable riding position

@leanit5756 Жыл бұрын

I've owned both. The R7 is twice the bike the MT07 is.

@jacobpollard3189 Жыл бұрын

Personally I’d go for the mt 07 since I absolutely love the street bike style of all the MT models, beautiful bikes

@drozdforce8853 25 күн бұрын

yeah i mean the slow turns in traffic with r7 i bet sucks ass

@lamarmichael619 11 ай бұрын

I go with the R7 I really love this one thanks

@sovan_404 Жыл бұрын

I think they should increase their displacement to 699cc and performance...for being in line with gsx8s and hornet...

@stoneytherock5670 Жыл бұрын

I am looking for my first bike, and honestly it's going to be between these two, and am strongly considering getting the r7, since the vast majority of my riding will be in the mountains where I live, no city riding or anything.

@benjo3459 Жыл бұрын

Damn your first bike ? This might be my second soon as I have my full license. This shits powerful for a first bike

@waza660 Жыл бұрын

I love my mt07 . I’d like to ride an R7 but realistically I can’t do that seating position long term

@trevorphillips3055 Жыл бұрын

The MT range has never done for me in the looks department. R7 looks good, I saw one brave man out on one on Saturday it sounds great too.

@falcy2889 Жыл бұрын

He’s not brave reckless it’s not the same lol

@patrickmitchell9171 Жыл бұрын

I'm shocked that Yamaha didn't sort out the MT-07 suspension, brakes, and dash when they last updated it. I can't imagine buying a 2023 MT-07 when the Hornet, GSX-8S, and Trident exist. It now sits with the Z650 at the bottom of the entry-middleweight class.

@Mike_P646 Жыл бұрын

All about keeping the price down

@patrickmitchell9171 Жыл бұрын

@@Mike_P646 The 2023 Hornet is cheaper than the 2023 MT-07.

@TheCaptainJezza Жыл бұрын

I bought an MT-07 for my first bike, don't think I could've gotten anything better if I tried. I did consider the R7, but my back would snap clean in half after hitting a bump (the roads in my area are garbage)

@Rolly28 Жыл бұрын

I’m thinking of getting the mt07 for my first bike also, I’m 19 tho so do you think insurance will be okay? I have got told that I will need a limiter

@TheCaptainJezza Жыл бұрын

@@Rolly28 it's a brilliant bike, really easy to ride. Insurance was just under £1100 for me (25, 6 years no claims on my car license at the time). They can be made A2 compliant if that's the license you have

@Rolly28 Жыл бұрын

@@TheCaptainJezza yea that’s the one I’m going for after I do my theory test now, thanks bro can’t wait 👍

@TheCaptainJezza Жыл бұрын

@@Rolly28 Nice one mate, good luck! 👍You'll enjoy it

@ibrahimassani4433 Жыл бұрын

Thanks...buying my MT 7 tomorrow

@nomsi4263 24 күн бұрын

It's a hard choice. I want the R7 because it looks great. It sounds great, but I know I will barely go on tracks and living in london. But do you go for comfort or how it makes you feel.

@Fred-mv8fx Жыл бұрын

The fz07 / mt07 was really special when it was first introduced, but now for $400 more I'd go for the Trident and get better suspension, a slipper clutch, and ride-by-wire / riding modes.

@richardwarsinske7064 Жыл бұрын

I'd really like to see Yamaha put all the R7 upgrades (better fork, brakes, slipper clutch) on the MT07. Eliminating the cost of the additional bodywork would result in a better overall value bike than the current MT07 (IMO) and may be something Yamaha ends up regretting not doing in response to the MT07's new higher performing competition (Hornet, GSX 8S, Duke 790).

@downhillupside Жыл бұрын

They've obviously been trying to milk a cash-cow while putting minimal work into the bike's development. They'll now be forced to do something to make it more appealing with the new midweight naked options showing up.

@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын

That's probably what the next mt07 will get. Pretty sure the slipper clutch has been in the mt for a while now. If Honda Slaps out a cbr750r, the R7 will also have problems. Because the Hornet's got everything the Yamaha's got without the 180 rear wheel.

@someguy9520 Жыл бұрын

Ppl have been asking for a Mt07 SP for a while. Yamaha really letting us hang there

@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын

@@someguy9520 Honda got you covered, 50more cc, 20 more hp, nice fat showa ups forks.

@downhillupside Жыл бұрын

@Daniel won't buy it, unfortunately. Our insurance rates here work on displacement, and the new Honda puts it in a much higher category and makes it 50% more expensive to insure per month. Mt07 is the sweet spot for me.

@Barneyx-sk3mx 8 ай бұрын

I went and ordered the R7 in blue

@m3lvn415 Жыл бұрын

I think the ergonomics and comfort go hand-in-hand to the MT-07. For R7 is more along the lines of being more sporty.

@esgee2327 Жыл бұрын

What's the reason why MT-07 uses conventional forks rather than inverted forks?

@fikri2822 Жыл бұрын

Just my opinion. Add USD fork, Brembo radial brake, hydraulic clutch lever and swap seat to closely match MT09 seat styling than MT07 is great banger bike.

@jonathanvicodasilva2025 Жыл бұрын

The R7 sounds like the perfect second bike

@flatcapcaferacer Жыл бұрын

When the choice is between a markedly better looking all be more uncomfortable bike with better equipment and a less attractive yet more comfortable bike with okay equipment with all things being equal most riders will choose the first bike. In this case there is a significant difference in price. Here is where we seem to rationalize with the bang for buck and pick the first bike anyway. I see it all the time with strangers, friends and I do it too. So why fight it?

@apervav Жыл бұрын

This is the 2022 mt07 correct?

@mikeskidmore6754 Жыл бұрын

For Me: I might Considering upgrading from a 2016 FZ-07 to an MT-09 Tracer

@clubstyleridahd4695 Жыл бұрын

Yamaha should make a new cam for the R7 so it has a little more top end power with a little bit higher rpm limit.

@WynterK Жыл бұрын

100% agree. They should have cammed it for a more sporty top end.

@astrostrotch Жыл бұрын

Then you'd lose that dirty grunt we all love. I think the new Hornet will give you what you're looking for.

@clubstyleridahd4695 Жыл бұрын

@@astrostrotch Ya probably so. The hornet does sound like it'll be good. Im going to have to test one out

@rogervallve7375 Жыл бұрын

both not for me, I went for the xsr700 instead.

@vihaanpandit5364 Жыл бұрын

Please make video also for indian because we love to watch your video

@krooked89 Жыл бұрын

I have a MT09 and love it. So does my back lol

@chicagoui9299 Жыл бұрын

Well Bob, wilst everyone is debating which one, I am saying both. For the price of an R1 you could have both of these bikes. :-)

@photographerjonathan Жыл бұрын

The MT07 not having upside down forks like every other bike its going up against really lets it down and makes it seem old. at my age the ergonomics of the R7 are not for me.

@jacksama502 Жыл бұрын

Why doesnt mt have usd? When lower cc mt have them?

@jefflambert8603 Жыл бұрын

Price point I would Have thought But then again a Honda CB500 Has USD..🤔

@greencollar4103 Жыл бұрын

Didn't even watch the vid, but it's rhe r7 all day for the front suspension alone.

@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын

Not the 300buck exhaust cover on the R7 lmaoo

@DrKampfpudding Жыл бұрын

too bad the r7 isnt painted fully in that beautiful blue,..

@gomezthechimp1116 Жыл бұрын

The answer to that question is Honda 750 Hornet 😁

@mnap89 Жыл бұрын

Tracer 700?

@TSINIproductions Жыл бұрын

XSR700 all the way. Looks much better than the MT, if you like sports bikes then the R7.

@RaghunandanReddyC Жыл бұрын

What happened to those 4 cylinder 600 cc R6?

@tubejorrit Жыл бұрын

did not pass euro5 emissions

@archiegol9903 Жыл бұрын

Discontinued unfortunately for the street. They got a black track only version now.

@MarmiteTheDog Жыл бұрын

Out of the two, I'd have to choose a Gen 5 VFR800 🤘

@steve-wu7jp Жыл бұрын

Ok granpa

@MarmiteTheDog Жыл бұрын

@@steve-wu7jp 👴

@Brabobiker. Жыл бұрын

If you want the best of both.. the tracer 7 is your bike bob.

@mrhands2757 Жыл бұрын

You convinced me, but your gonna have to explain to my woman why I bought a R7!! 🤙🤙🤙🤭🤣🤣🤣

@mattmassey5013 Жыл бұрын

MT07 for me. Wheelie monster.

@Biker_Jonathan Жыл бұрын

R7 is a beautiful bike. I was literally just checking them out before this video. Pity they don’t have something in between the R7 and R1.

@rampage3337 Жыл бұрын

well that's why the R7 sucks because it's just a MT-07R with a R7 badge. i ain't saying it needs allot of power but it should atleast have 90+ hp if it wants to claim it's a R7 which it ain't.

@Biker_Jonathan Жыл бұрын

@@rampage3337 I agree, though could be tuned to 120+ps, then it would be decent.

@asga4rd Жыл бұрын

Already for the R9 😁. Got a feeling is gonna be awesome for street

@Biker_Jonathan Жыл бұрын

@@asga4rd yup, did some checking and the upcoming R9 will be a great addition.

@adventurewithalex3707 Жыл бұрын

I know which one I want… The T7

@yonniboy1 Жыл бұрын

The MT-07 is a real fun bike and I like its looks but if you try to push it on B roads it ties itself in knots, IMO the ideal budget middleweight would be the MT-07 engine in a Trident rolling chassis.

@Yoss223 Жыл бұрын

But have you ridden Trident?

@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын

I really like the R7, but dealers here are asking for 13K€ for these things... It's cool but I'd rather import a zx4r for that money.

@TheSupart91 Жыл бұрын

or save an extra 1k n get a mt03 then use the extra money for upgrades

@dsofe4879 Жыл бұрын

Or you could join me on year 8 of waiting for the R9

@tonyspicer6745 Жыл бұрын

I like the MT07 for ripping around the back country roads where I live…

@MrAndrew1953 Жыл бұрын

A kitted out version of the pleb model would probably suit me best. Top box, screen for a bit of wind protection and a horny sounding pipe. Not too much power,too easy to pick up tickets for bad behaviour. Urban growler.

@stevenelliott5403 Жыл бұрын

I'll take the MT on the road

@cykablyat867 Жыл бұрын

You should buy the new Hornet 750. The mt7 reign is over

@bikashdeepharijan9814 Жыл бұрын

I love r7😍😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍😍🥰😍😘😘😘

@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 Жыл бұрын

The real answer is the T7, at least for tall people like myself.

@beer3029 Жыл бұрын

Wait until the R9 comes out.

@Antonio_zx6r Жыл бұрын

MT-07. Why would I want a supersport riding position without supersport power? Get a ZX-6R for around the same price. Much better bike.

@Mike_P646 Жыл бұрын

You can't buy a new 600 cc supersport bike in Europe anymore 😭

@spartanx169x Жыл бұрын

600s are getting phased out. They just don't sell, which proves the ones that rave about them either don't buy them or buy them used.

@angahsham-ou1uu Жыл бұрын

Dear Yamaha... We need R9

@powamoto Жыл бұрын

Zx7R end game

@user-ef2eu7kn1t Жыл бұрын

Сделай Субтитры ! ⬅🕇♞

@FPSLibrarian Жыл бұрын

XSR700 every day of the week over these two

@anonymous1756 Жыл бұрын

Mt07 always

@markrigg7038 Жыл бұрын

Neither, bought an Enfield interceptor 👍

@motohound90 Жыл бұрын

Interceptor is a great bike but MT is way more fun. Guess it all comes down to what you appreciate in a bike.

@ricardopessoa8362 Жыл бұрын

I would reconsider the MT-07 if the headlight wasn't so hideous. Even the new GSX-8 looks a lot better.

@alesterpadua7884 Жыл бұрын

Windscreen would make it look better

@ricardopessoa8362 Жыл бұрын

To me, that's just not enough. They had an attractive product and ruined it completely. And there are other MT Yamahas just as bad.

@alesterpadua7884 Жыл бұрын

@@ricardopessoa8362 not really a problem to everyone but yeah, some people like it and some people don't

@SouLerKunG Жыл бұрын

Easy for me, I don't like sport bike and MT-07 and naked bikes is my choice.

@zacharyburdette4261 Жыл бұрын

This is basically asking someone if they like sportbikes or naked bikes.

@faris2776 10 ай бұрын

The R7 hurts my back

@michaelhayward7572 Жыл бұрын

XSR700....

@k1mura92 11 ай бұрын

Large burrito 😂😂😂

@kotomakosako Жыл бұрын

In my country, R7 is 2500 Euro more expencive than the MT-07. That's not a small amount of money and therefore, for me MT-07 wins this. Same engine, much more comfy, cheaper.

@tubejorrit Жыл бұрын

R7, better brakes, suspension, display and more bodywork. That's where the 2500,- went.

@steve-wu7jp Жыл бұрын

You don’t put any passion into reviews these days ,it’s just about cranking it out for sponsors and views

@CaptainChristianZ1818 Жыл бұрын

Neither. Sorry not a huge fan of the MT-07 or R7.

@user-hf8ie8mf3n Жыл бұрын

Neither? 🤔

@bobdowns6973 Жыл бұрын

In a weird way the tenere should be here 🤔

@jimzenglish1 Жыл бұрын

Neither. Get the XSR700.

@marton_horvath Жыл бұрын

As i understand from a used car expert's review of them, carvertical is rather crappy though.

@cybilisation Жыл бұрын

Neither of ‘em 🙂 buy a Hornet. Cheaper, better, same reliability.

@MrBinkz Жыл бұрын

The R7 is bloody uncomfortable…

@derek2727 Жыл бұрын

tracer 7😄

@David-rp9ey Жыл бұрын

Dont buy them i had a MT07 its fucking boring No Power, Bad suspension, crappy seatingposition… only thing it can do is wheelie. Just get a Z900 or a Literbike :)