Even just normal every day uneducated people would know that's not a good idea.

Yea because why trust the same people that make cell phones, medicine, airplane travel, agriculture, cars, architecture, and military technology possible while you sit there and look down on them with no real scientific knowledge on any subject

They were not trying to remove the radiation belts. They were just testing nukes, that's all.

_Giggles_

They sure are scary sometimes

You would travel that far up the elevator. Just far enough to get orbital velocity, which would be below the inner belt.

KaptenKilt , given that a space elevator needs an anchor point down here, orbital velocity would be at 42,000km / 26,000miles geosynchronous orbit radius. (Way above the lower belt.)

+KaptenKilt Problem; The earthbound end of the elevator cable is stationary. Thus to reach in orbital velocity, you have to reach the hight of a geostationary orbit, which is about 10000 kilometers outside of the outer Van Allen belt.

Sry KaptenKilt, but by using such an elevator you'd only reach orbital velocity at about 36,000 km (GEO). That's farther up than the inner *and* in the middle of the outer belt. To answer the question: Humans simply can't practically use that elevator. At least not until low weight/highly effective shielding is invented or the belts get cleared of radiation. Both of which are insanely difficult to achieve, even after such an elevator could be built. So rockets it is. ;)

"It is the risk of homicidal insanity from sharing the trip with others for hours while listening to elevator music" ~ Isaac Arthur (best KZfaq futurist)

Yeah

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if there is no belt in the moon no protection = death no camera raidreson brake film 🎞 storm or rain of deadly particles will hit them

PETA said no to leather radiation belts

Only the ass side is radioactive

You are completely correct.

@Bobb Grimley You have to read All of the words to understand the context. "Apollo created no data about the effects of the Van Allen radiation on an iPad." This is an indisputable truth that you seem to want to find a way around. I am not ignoring "this obvious point" because it has nothing to do with my argument. The Apollo hoaxers like to make it seem that the Van Allen Radiation is so intense that astronauts would get microwaved and therefore we never went to the moon. The effects of radiation on the Apollo-era electronics do not directly translate to modern electronics and further study will need to be done on the next generation electronics using the data from the dosimeters.

@Bobb Grimley You as an individual do not have to do anything I or anyone else says. My point, which you seemed to have missed, is that all the words must be read by anyone in order to understand the context before making a response to the actual argument instead of what a cursory reading might suggest.

He actually ends it with “before sending people” I don’t know why people hear what they want to hear smh

@@friendlyghost116 The fact most responses even the woman in the video leave this out is beautiful. Just highlights the sheep brother lol

MrFluffykat ,,,,in your dreams fool.

@@redskua ....

MrFluffyka Whaha!

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@Cliff Yablonski A man with a plan. Gotta love it!

Lol it is both; hilarious and true

1000% agree

Or make them president

@vic demize how about the ones who actually understand science and have looked at the proof and understood it, instead of paranoids confirming their cognitive biases because they think they're smarter than everyone even though they don't understand science above a grade school level? Which ones are being fucking stupid?

@vic demize A great representation of the quote. thanks for volunteering

Been there, done that. No, they don't have to figure it out _again,_ they have to figure out how to protect the ship from long missions where radiation can become a problem. And they have! You're going by old news, Orion's radiation protection was tested 8 years ago! Passed, too, with flying colors.

That's like an aircraft designer saying "the Wright Brothers figured out how to make a powered, heavier than air vehicle fly - now we gotta go figure out how to do it again for the Boeing 707". Well, duh!

@@Tim22222 go watch some more history channel dude, your critical thinking is gone. You think it begins and ends with a Van Allen belt it gets wackier or from there. You probably don’t know what predictive programming is but there’s at least 30 Hollywood movies laughing in your face about this with “Interstellar” being one of the last made. THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU, as they steal your money and give it to Israel

We went thru the belts with a spacecraft. Now we gotta figure out how a completely different spacecraft deals with the same belts. Strange? Suspectful? Well, I'm pretty sure that any new model of car is road tested before selling, even if countless of other models of cars were produced, tested, sold and driven on the same roads before. Amazing, isn't?

@@eventcone Your analogy is flawed. The Wright brothers didn't build a craft that has modern computers onboard. The Apollo computers were far less sensitive than modern computers. Are you arguing that technology hasn't advanced since the 60's?

@Trebor basic what? Manipulation? Pseudo -science, outright lies. Space travel is a comic book premise, it's NEVER happened.

@Trebor I only have to rely on Observable Reality to disprove NASA......you can so the same thing if you can break the spell.

@Trebor We understand the blast is internal........

I'm sorry you need every step explained to you. Her mistake for assuming basic human intelligence would be applied by all viewers.

@@coreyh5989 NO experiment know to man can produce flames in a vacuum, are you sure I'm the remedial one?

Don't forget cell phones! Those things will pop corn in your brain. /S

True, but cell phones emit microwave "radiation" -- that's non-ionizing radiation which might cause some heating, but won't rip apart your DNA like the ionizing alpha and beta particles, and high-energy gamma and x-rays.

Ayelmar Yup, ionizing is the key along with intensity. If cell phones could actually "cook" a brain, it should have already destroyed all of its circuitry.

If that's the case why did NASA worry about the belts and build this so call protective shield that she so eloquently mentioned you guys are really reaching but whatever floats your boat and Kelly didn't say that we have solve the problem just getting orion though the belts he said that they had to solve the problem before "we" they can send humans though so I'll take his word over yours!!!!

Because NASA didn't know for sure the effects of traveling through the belt until after the first Apollo missions. Also, the only form of radiation able to pass through the shielding of the command module is gamma and x-ray radiation, which is far less dangerous to tissue than alpha and beta radiation. This is because it passes straight through the body, unlike beta and alpha(if you were to ingest it). I'm sure none of the KZfaq videos you've watched ever bothered to tell you this.

Its Van Morrison stupid!,,

I’ve got the Van Allen belt and the watch - still boxed!

I liked Professor Ludwig von Drake.

@@avtl Ron Popeil: But WAIT! There's MORE!

iZac Stein Ah! Good Aul Eddie :) There is a tram stop in Brussels named van Haelen :) I go there, throw a belt around that stop, manage to get through...

Astronauts are now classed as radiation workers, and work within appropriate safety protocols.

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Women are used very effectively in the world of marketing.

@TermsofService they probably got her from acting class

LARGE CARTOONY TYPE THUMBS UP !!!!

Drink vodka, stalker!

I see what you did there.

So why haven't we went back.

Or just wear your power armor!

Robert Lamothe Our electronics these days are way more sensitive to interference, so makes sense.

Well, what he's saying is, "normal off the shelf micro conductor circuitry" isn't sufficient for deep space missions, and it is one of many "problems" (engineers tend to describe any job, or challenge as a "problem") that needs to be solved for the Orion to fly. We have after all sent plenty of robotic missions into space that use micro conductor circuitry before. It's not as if the Orion has an inherent design flaw, or is inherently inferior to Apollo (much as tech nostalgists would like it to, since it uses "that new-fangled computoor" equipment).

And, when he said "before we send people through this region of space", he meant that, if they send people and the [modern electronics] guidance system fails [because of the radiation], those people may die [not because of the radiation itself, but] because the craft would be lost and not able to return to Earth [before the crew died from asphyxia or something else].

Marcelo Glenadel So in short. Don't use your iPhones as spacecraft guidance computers kids.

ShadowFalcon Well, I mean... With proper shielding... Should work. Oh, shielding AND some duct tape. Always add duct tape!

More likely than Neil Armstrong going there!

@@ikemreacts one small step for. A MAN.......

Taking a step back though, do you not see how that would also be an argument in favor of the "didn't go to the moon" theory?

@@tophinity You could argue against anything with that logic.

Sure you tell me after watching apollo 11s return press interview if a single one looks like a man who just flew to the moon and returned safely...... all I see is guilt and unease and the inability to recall any detail outside the script

or you know, exhaustion.

Because they never went through it genius.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha 😁

Yes, I can confirm this is exactly how it happened! I know because I read it on the internet. Thank you, Batman and Alfred

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Yeah... also, Orion plans to spend 6 months or more in deep space, not a few days. It's an entirely different problem. They are not really concerned about the Van Allen belts at all. They're concerned about long-term exposure to cosmic rays. They *deliberately* flew it through the belts to test it - five years ago. And it was fine.

NASA has the best technologists on the planet. Along with billions of dollars for funding. They could make new computers specifically for the belt. We can give Ukraine $200 billion but we can't give NASA $30 billion to go back to the moon? Could you imagine a Livestream from the moon

So many people making excuses for nasa when they obviously lie

@@anthonydavis9382 NASA is also a very shady and deceptive organization and can never fully be trusted, just like our government and anything else it controls.

@@ChillCat665 Exactly.

The theories are the conspiracy. Science is full of imaginary theoretical thoughts generic scientist have proven to be facts through non recorded,well documented on paper experiments

@@johnchapman8131 You clearly have zero understanding of the scientific meaning of 'theory'.

His secret is, he's _always_ angry... at moonhoaxers.

Buzz gave this Guy a shit and Buzz was right!!!

Bart is never angry, that´s not his character!

BUZZ SMASH !!!!

I live near Austin... he's in town now for SXSW! Yay! Get Your Ass To Mars! But build a moon base first...

The problem isn't technology, it's _money._ Sure, we could have kept going, even built a moon base by now. But congress took away the money for moon shots & spent it elsewhere. No money, no moon missions. If you smell BS it's coming from the videos you've watched.

There is no "tech" that is needed for going to the moon that is outside of well-known aerospace technology of the 1960's. We still have the technology. Quite a bit of it is still actively in use every day.

@@ThatBoomerDude56 Peter Kosen my friend told me he travelled to the moon using only parts salvaged from his small garden shed. He said some of the parts he used was actually manufactured by nasa. I think my friend might be getting nasa equipment mixed up with Zanusi. I know, doesnt read or sound similar. He consumes a lot of acid though. He said he was not alone on his journey to the moon. He said he was accompanied by a female nordic type alien species. Again, im sceptical of this claim. As well as suspecting that rather than having built a craft capable of travelling to the moon and back, whilst on acid he has in fact merely climbed into his old broken industrial sized Zanusi washing machine that is stored in his garden shed, I also suspect that the nordic being who accompanied him on his journey to the moon was merely his fully accessorized blone and blue eyed life size sex doll which he chooses to store in the washing machine, away from the prying eyes of his girlfriend Brandeen. I personally dont know what to believe. I have emailed him requesting that he stop taking drugs when hes by himself but as he is such a filthy untrustworthy degenerate he is too unkept to visit my home, i wouldnt be seen in public with him as he would slurry my well maintained charachter. I visited his home one and couldnt actually see his carpet or furnishings due to strewn about rubbish and dirt. There was beasties crawling everywhere fer fuck sake. I had to throw all my clothes in the bin, burn them and get my neighbour to hose me down in my own front garden before I felt it was safe to go back in my own home. Will never go there again. Still, hes a really good mate and I dont want to hurt his feelings. Ive only went and accepted a limited one off return ticket to the moon when he offered me it. Fer fucks sake, i didnt have the heart to tell him that he maybe mentally ill, suffering from delusions and that I didnt want to visit his property ever again as it is infested with vermin and insects as well as probably many diseases. I didnt even mention that the ticket was a ripped up sheet of toilet paper where he has attempted to write on it with crayon. My loyalties are confused. I dont know if i should send him a letter telling him i cant go on the trip with him as I have a 2 week holiday booked in aspen and i have a fear of flying or whether i should pay for an experienced mental health professional to visit his home to asess him. There is also the personal scientific curiosity that the space vehicle he has built is indeed capable of travelling to the moon. As far as the nordic female i am 100% sure he is referring to his sex doll. No other woman, apart from his visually impaired, deaf girlfriend who has no sense of smell would ever want to be alone with him. Even if the female was from another planet.

@@teddyamok Whatever. You do realize that actual engineers exist, right? Some people understand how these things actually work in the real world. Or do you think that all "flying machines" are a hoax? Or like a guy told my grandmother back in 1904: "People are not meant to fly. That flying machine is the work of the Devil!" ... I guess some people need to make up stories for things that they don't understand. Because the real world can be a scary place.

@@ThatBoomerDude56 with the greatest respect its not 1904 anymore and we now know that people are not meant to fly, machines do the flying. I dont actually know how ive ended up embroiled in these discussions. Im assuming i have been exceptionally bored for 10mins and seem both people either side of this argument wetting their pants with either the excitment of talking about the subject and defending it or anger that they find the subject ludicris. Either way i dont give a shit. I guess its my own fault for getting involved in race that I have no horse running in. This is how i see it (cannot fully remember the basis of this debate anymore), if nasa say they have been to moon but cant go back for whatever reason, thats great. It doesnt affect me. If some people think nasa did not go to moon and have never been to the moon, there is no moon or the moons made of cheese etc, again, so what. People are entitled to their opinions and beliefs (or are they? Its 2019 and u cannot call a boy/man, girl/woman by their actual gender anymore or u are a racist homophobe. Different argument I know). Its just funny to me how people live their lives on social media or video sharing networks and are aggressive about defending their principles on life etc against people who they do not even know. Me, im just dumb. I just like offending people and wasting their time. I have a very low iq. On par with a candy apple or some sort of nut. Maybe a brazil nut.

Ed Fendel was the engineer in charge of programming and operating the remote camera on the rover.

@@tw1stedgrav1ty7 Neither was there a shot of the lunar module ascending from the surface during Apollo 11. That only happened on Apollo 15, 16, and 17 (only successful on 17), which all had rovers.

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Sorry I can t read you, Im on earth without any network service

if there is no belt in the moon no protection = death no camera raidreson brake film 🎞 storm or rain of deadly particles will hit them

Right?!! LMAO

Can you imagine these idiots in charge of our solar system. Yeah nuke something that you have no idea what will happen and see how you destroy us freaking retards

And now, Mr. Trump wants to create a military "space force". I have no idea what they'll shoot, but I guess if they're there long enough, they'll shoot each other.

@@flattruthtrucker9439 you nailed it....the funny thing is the radiation belt that they said was dangerous then it wasn't but it still is they tried to nuke it.Houston we have a solution.

@@ann_onn Your President is taking long term moves (at last a President that has the foresight to do so) to protect our futures. The "space force" is in response to the chinese efforts to circumvent our missile defenses with offensive missile launching platforms in space. Better hope we get them first. If we do it'll be thanks to President Trump. Like so many other things that amazing man has accomplished ALL BY HIMSELF. Either offensively or defensively they will be a good thing for our ultimate survival, including even fools like you..

I heard they slowed down and watched the whole concert.

Chris Waddell it was only a matter of time.

There have been hundreds of brave women (groupies) who have made it through the "Van Halen belts!"

I been to the edge And there I stood and looked down

You can't get to space w/o an Eruption first.

And E-M radiation (gamma rays & x-rays) are not what's trapped by the van allen belts; there just aren't enough of those out there to pose a risk to humans for short-term exposure.

That’s because this video wasn’t made in good faith, it’s propaganda covering for NASA having faked Apollo 11

@@Tim22222 Are you lying or what?

@@IncognitoActivado No, he isn't. Sounds like someone else lied to you though. By any chance would that be a certain former taxi-driver by the name of Sibrel? What made you believe him?

@@eventcone Van Allen radiation belt, dude.

No such thing as the van allen belts

Pmsl

Evidently you’re not old enough to know what a pyramid scheme is, it starts with you, the obedient consumer. And you trust in your handler’s, i.e.: the makers of these videos. You’ll notice that they’re not using “physicists“ because they know that other physicist would call them out on their bullshit. So they use “common people“ that you can relate to and you blindly jumping to defend them, may because she’s cute? This is classic psychological conditioning, a form of it is used to train monkeys, dogs and other animals(beasts of the field). It’s called conditioned response. You know you have the “mark of the beast” when you voluntarily object to any contradiction in the collective canonized version of public science.

@@ZackWolfMusic only a thing called the firmament

@@Level_No_Curve Yupers

Not only just mass, it was the fact that the components were much more analog in nature. It's like comparing vacuum tubes in a 1950s AM radio with a modern 2024 GPS NAV system in your new SUV

Law of Polaris -North Star- Because there is no rocket system powerful enough to get a manned mission to the moon in use today. The Apollo-SaturnV system was the only one in history powerful enough to do it, but the US Congress cancelled the program early and the system was retired. Without demand for it, the skills and manufacturing methods required to build it became obsolete and died out. There are rocket systems powerful enough to do the job in development right now. Their first crewed flights are due in early 2020s.

That wasn't the question this video was addressing. Conspiracy theorists always move the goal posts once the question of the moment gets answered. This tackled one such question. But to answer your question, nobody says we "can't" do the same thing today, only that we don't/won't. The rockets powerful enough to make these flights were decomissioned long ago. The US usually just buys seats on Russian rockets these days to send men into space. Maintaining the shuttle system was extremely expensive, so congress shut that down too. The government has been letting the private sector pour their money into building new protoype rockets & delivery systems, although NASA has been developing their next rocket system for future Mars missions. Keep in mind that in our infinite wisdom, NASA's budget is but a fraction of what it used to be. They're asked to do more with less, and with less general interest by the average citizen. Even when NASA sends probes, and rovers to other planets, people constantly whine "who cares?" and "what a waste of money" or "with $300 million you could feed X amount of people!" People tend to ignore all the benefits we've gained from space technology, and have a cynical & jaded view on achieving any new goals when they don't receive any instant or tangible gratification from it. Back during the years leading up to the moon landing, NASA's budget was over 4% of the total budget of the US for several years, with it hitting 4.41% at its peak. Today, the budget is only 0.4% of our budget...less than 1%. They also employed *OVER 400,000 PEOPLE* at their height in 1965, compared to just over 17,000 today... They also had triple the amount of employees, and were of huge national interest at the time, having the support of the country as a whole. Even though every dollar put into NASA averages about $10 back into the economy, people don't do the research or seem to care. If we suddenly had 4.41% of the federal budget going towards NASA again, instead of having $20 billion to work with, they'd have *$180.54 BILLION* instead. The amount of shit they could accomplish with that funding, or even half the staffing they had at their height, they could be sending people to Mars in the next few years.

Corey errr nope

Exactly

Niall Kinsella the aluminum foil was the only thing strong enough to get through the belt

To those who don’t know Starfish prime is when NASA detonated a nuke in the V.A.R.B (Van Allen Radiation Belt) to create a hole so they could travel through it but they just ended up giving it more radiation go figure 😂😂

They wouldn't have been able to take the radiation.

@@chrismilton3895 and you know this how?

@@rickwest2818 Trump told me! Lol

What a bullish*t explanation.

WHAT?!

I actually watch the full-video and realize he was talking about the precautions for the Orion ship/mission specifically. Lol lesson learned, watch things in context.

Thank you

This is true. We're having an issue with chips today in that even their own quantum effects are limiting how small the circuits can be. External radiation would play havoc which such small fabrication process.

Thank you for this explanation :)

RAD750 is still being used today. It is in the Perseverance rover (2020) and the James Webb Space Telescope (2021). This is not my field, but it does appear that the next generation radiation hardened processor (RAD5500, 45nm) is not being utilized as much and designers are still favoring the older RAD750.

The surface which was exposed to radiation would have burned off during reentry. There may still be ...some... elevated radiation levels coming from the piece of foil, but after so long it would be nearly impossible to tell it apart from normal background radiation. :D

Radiation isn't contageous. You could get a very small amount of captures creating a few atoms of some radioactive element, but aside from that it's not something that gets absorbed and sent back out later.

Does your food still contain microwaves after you remove it from the microwave oven? 😉

@@rickwest2818 - Microwaves are not radioactive

if there is no belt in the moon no protection = death no camera raidreson brake film 🎞 storm or rain of deadly particles will hit them

The mental gymnastics of NASA fanboys have no limits. lol

No she doesnt know and its funny look at Hiroshima and the Van Allen Belt which would have been exposed to the most radiation.

They used a tin foil hat...cuz they never went to the moon. NASA is just another agency fooling the masses like everything else.

*Reactors* on Earth take far more...

None of these people are interested in doing "research" beyond Googling "moon hoax democrat."

It seems common opinion as to the required shielding is either 6' of water, or 6" of lead. I have seen this plenty of times and not once was it challenged. NASA also stated they do not have the power to lift the added weight.

The radiation levels did not harm the astronauts...because they went there full stop! Irrefutable Proof from three gentlemen. TERRY VIRTS SPEECH. Well, that’s a great question. The plan that NASA has is to build a rocket called SLS, which is a heavy lift rocket. It’s something that is much bigger than what we have today, and it will be able to launch the Orion capsule with humans on board as well as landers or other components to destinations beyond Earth orbit. Right now we only can fly in Earth orbit, that’s the farthest that we can go, and this new system that we’re building is gonna allow us to go beyond and hopefully take humans into the Solar System to explore. So the Moon, Mars, asteroids... there’s a lot of destinations that we could go to and we’re building these building-block components in order to allow us to do that eventually. NASA ENGINEER SPEECH. Radiation like this could harm the guidance systems, on-board computers or other electronics on Orion," Smith says. "Shielding will be put to the test as the vehicle cuts through the waves of radiation… We must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space." DON PETTIT In an interview, Donald Pettit -a NASA astronaut- mentioned that he’d go the moon in a nano of a second! but they no longer have the technology to do that. All the technology from the Apollo mission has been destroyed, and it is a painful process to build it back again. Neil Armstrong said : There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth's protective layers. There are places to go beyond belief. Those challenges are yours -- in many fields, not the least of which is space, because there lies human destiny. Thank you. Need anymore be said? 😊

@@cceast7890 That "common" opinion is dead wrong. Lead is not the appropriate shielding for proton radiation (the kind found in the van allen belts) and no one ever said it was.

ok there expert

I built the cable harnesses for Apollo, as they were called. Your statement about program code being stored in the wires reflects you know zip about any topic here but that you're an idiot. " Program codes" were/are stored in RAM modules you MORON and are not affected by anything EXCEPT electromagnetic surges of radiation EMIs you DUMMY...

PS Don't say he uses braces.

Due to zero gravity they stay anyway

hood boyz know how to keep the pants up to their knees at least..just glad the hanes stay above the group

Maybe he likes exposing himself to the female astronuts.

if there is no belt in the moon no protection = death no camera raidreson brake film 🎞 storm or rain of deadly particles will hit them

bollocks to much radiation is a good think? hahahahaaaaa

Yes, short exposure to radiation activates the immune system. I once lived in a town in Germany were the tap water would contain up to 6ug of Uranium per liter. 100 years ago the radioactive springs in the region were sold as healing water! Damn. Think about that. How much perception can change.

Todd McLaughlin ] I say this, when you take your head out of your ass, you will then be able to smell the air better. I think you will look the same though.

steve dover ] NASA will never stop the LIE,

It all depends what scale was being used. A speedometer from a bus would often be "off the scale" in a Ferrari.

*@Alrukitaf* Yes, Van Allen found that there were high levels of radiation in some part of the belts. So they didn't go through that part.

+Awesomus Maximus Heh, cheers.

Attila the pun over here...

Awesomus Maximus lol

REMarkable!

Haha

Don't worry sir...she's not US citizen..that's why she shout it out...she didn't realized that the safest way going to the moon has been found...it's callled now as Boeing's MCAS

@Aldo G LOL! I can't help you. And you sure can't help me. Nice try though.

Forget about hallow Moon, we decided to go on the Mars mission first - we don't like the easy way..

I see your logic. I can't get a girlfriend! AH! Take that!

EXCUSE ME PLEASE YOU CAN BREAK THE SOUND BARRIER MY COUSIN WAS A NAVAL FIGHTER PILOT HE DID IT IN HIS TOMCAT

Maxo11x great point bravo sir

Not a very good Scientist if he's never heard of shielding. He should talk to GE, they make CT scanners and know a thing or 2 about shielding electronics.

And that would be cool, if weight wasn't an issue. Also, CT scanners use x-rays. The VAB is particle radiation, and requires different shielding.

@@SternLX And how would CT scan shielding work for charged particles???

@Maxollx Yes. This is the point that flatworm retards/ moon landing conspiracy retards don't understand or conveniently ignore.

@Terry Winter Show the evidence! I would like to see it!!!

@@michaelivey1087 --- You would still deny it.

gary miller No Mr. Miller! I am 62 years old and I truly believe we went to the moon! But, having grown up in Houston and visiting the Space Center numerous times, meeting Alan Bean, John Youn, and Eugene Cernan, after looking at the space ships numerous times, I am actually convinced that 1 of 2 things occurred. 1. The Space Ships are really quite flimsy or not very sturdy for lack of better descriptions. They just look like pieces of junk. I think a person would almost have to be suicidal to do what they did. So, they were the Bravest people to walk this earth and they actually went. 2. It's all a lie! Although I don't see how it was possible to have a radio powerful enough to transmit the distances it supposedly did, how they were able to fly the moon lander since it couldn't be duplicated on earth. Just a couple of things. But there are inconsistencies in the films and photographs! So yes, I would like to see the evidence!

No one with brains think we went there back then. This comment section is cleaned, just watch the likes.

​@patrikpass2962 your definitely voting for biden aren't you.

@@patrikpass2962 I beg to differ. I have a communications background and the deep space radio communications were definitely pointed at the moon when they were talking and for giggles the moon surveyor took photos of the Apollo landing sites. The LROC camera aboard NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft took photos and so did China. Why would they take photos and report it?

Yes. Educate yourself about long term exposure to radiation. Radiation may not kill you instantly. It kills later. Radiation does and will cause cancer. Cumulative 1000 mSv will cause cancer for sure. And somehow none of the alleged people that spent time in space going to the alleged Moon and being on the alleged Moon never developed any cancer. You know why? Because no one flew to the Moon and no one ever landed on the Moon. Why is this bull shit since 1960's stil going around the World?

More likely we would never have been born! Our planet has had to sit in the flux of particle radiation from solar and cosmic sources for billions of years. Apollo astronauts popped outside of Earth's magnetic field for a few days. Bit of a difference.

Robert Wraith You do need to listen better. The belts would indeed kill us if we were in them for a sufficient time. Professor Van Allen estimated that a week in the inner belt would be fatal and that the outer belt is bigger but far less deadly. The Apollo ships were in the inner belt for about 15 minutes, and the outer belt for about two hours. The total exposure was around 1% of the fatal dose which is not a problem and is about the same as getting a abdomen and pelvic CT scan. So in order to die from the radiation the astronaut would need to go to the moon and back 100 times, or someone on Earth would need to have 100 CT scans. At no point did she say that there is not enough radiation to kill us, she said that by travelling fast the spaceship does not spend enough time in the radiation belt to accumulate sufficient exposure to kill the astronauts. It is the accumulation over longer time periods that is deadly.

I'm not a flat Earther either but I know when a skilled story is being told

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha 😁

Absolutely right Alexander. The nasa engineer Kelly smith specifically mentions the belts could damage the guidance systems and onboard electronics.

Blu Cifer I’m not some moon landing denier but I’m not really buying this “computer damage” thing. Otherwise, what about all the other probes we’ve sent to Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, etc.

MisterLepton Weight constraints are dramatically more flexible when you don't have to provide a livable environment for passengers, or engines with enough thrust to get to the destination before the astronauts die. In those cases you can afford the shielding weight. Our probes moved far slower (years in transit) than is viable for human survival.

Alexander Tzalumen then we’ll just need to build a sufficient ship, piece by piece, in LEO.

MisterLepton Expensive, but doable. We'll build it one Tesla Roadster at a time.

Yes. And the test was performed in 2014, with no problems occurring...

Nice, I missed that. Better radiation shielding means modern electronics, which translates to lower power consumption. With the freed up resources we can do fun new things.

People are sensitive to radiation, too. Radiation may not kill you instantly. It kills later. Radiation does and will cause cancer. Cumulative 1000 mSv will cause cancer for sure. And somehow none of the alleged people that spent time in space going to the alleged Moon and being on the alleged Moon never developed any cancer. You know why? Because no one flew to the Moon and no one ever landed on the Moon. Why is this bull shit since 1960's stil going around the World?

@@ericephemetherson3964 Where did you get that number?

And under water.

A few weeks. Fortunately, they passed through them in a few hours.

@Shawn Lewis Van Allen himself stated that spending a week in the Space Shuttle in the most intense regions of the VARBs could be fatal. But as Ann said, they traversed through the belts in a matter of hours. And they only skirted them! On average, they left Earth at an angle of about 35 degrees to the equator, thereby avoiding the most intense radiation.

I'm 58! :-) The radio silence was not caused by the van allen belts, it was caused by the super-heated air (plasma) that surrounded the capsule during re-entry into the atmosphere. Nothing to do with radiation. And the transmissions from the moon were microwaves, not TV/radio. There's no reason at all that passing through the VAB should be a problem.

@@Tim22222 Thanks for the good word - do you believe in the single electron?

@@Tim22222 can you explain how the president called them from a land line and the connection was perfectly clear and there was no nine second delay ?

@@michaelpanter5156 You're joking - right? You're putting me on, right? I mean, you can't really be THAT dumb so you must be having me on, right?? You can't really imagine how they arranged that call? Hint: Do you think they had the technology in 1969 for the president to place a call to _Houston?_ Take your time ...

@@Tim22222 listen to some tapes that Buzz and Armstrong are talking to Houston and it's not that good of audio, then listen to the president's phone call. There is no time delay and the audio is a lot more clearer.

Luke Anthony True. Wake up sheeple

You lie! Everyone knows it's shaped like a dodecahedron!

I thought it was shaped like a donut. Mmmm... donuts!

Fools! Everyone knows it's a flat triangle!

TIME CUBE! 24 HOURS = 4 CUBE DAYS!!!

It's just a Jump to the Left!

Steel, aluminium, low density insulation. These are ideal for shielding against the charged particle radiation found in the solar wind and van Allen belts.

It's been well documented now...you Americans did not go to the moom

Girl,you've been drinking too much Coca cola......No way you Americans went to the moon....just look at all the evidence,photographic and otherwise.

@@geraldwalsh6489 what evidence, all the crap posted by deniers?

@@geraldwalsh6489 No 1 has/will

@harrylongbaugh1 ....ummm....we dont have decent healthcare either

I have a feeling your conspiracy theory might be a conspiracy in itself. Hmmm.

That's like the Challenger conspiracy.

@@jbenkidu isn't that the same in reverse? They did make it back and were allocated new identities?

@@michaelportaloo1981 yes I believe so. Conspiracy 1; they went and they died, never came back. - they are still alive. Conspiracy 2; they went and came back. - they never came back, they are doubles.

Bob..Nope on comission. Just a plain box of cookies from Amazon..NASA already spent their funding on green-screens and CGI.

You'll believe anything if it wears a skirt.

@@MrMarco855 yeah that's not true. I tend to believe people who are educated in their field of study. Not everyday don who uses google for their info.

@@random22hero86 I believe myself and I've asked God to guide me.

@@MrMarco855 God would want you to be educated I'm pretty sure.

@@MrMarco855 lmao

WTF is wrong with you? Comparing cell-phones to S-band microwave transmissions is apples v. oranges. It's a loser's argument, totally off-topic. And the moon landings were not lost because _THEY HAPPENED!_ We stopped going after the goal was met. What's suspicious about that? I really don't understand where you losers are coming from.

My phone works fine

Because these gus were on the Moon while you slept. Radiation may not kill you instantly. It kills later. Radiation does and will cause cancer. Cumulative 1000 mSv will cause cancer for sure. And somehow none of the alleged people that spent time in space going to the alleged Moon and being on the alleged Moon never developed any cancer. You know why? Because no one flew to the Moon and no one ever landed on the Moon. Why is this bull shit since 1960's stil going around the World?

@@Tim22222 The goal was met? What goal? To hop on the Moon like wild bunnies? So, why, after Europeans discovered America - thus meeting the goal of descovering the new land - kept coming to the American continent? Should they have just met the goal of descovering and going back to Europe without ever returning? What kind of weird argument are you using? By exploring the Moon and excavating Helium 3 our World would have plenty of energy. So, once we land on Mars, we will never return to it?

@@Tim22222 it didn’t happen

remote controlled/automated camera on the lunar rover

His name was Ed Fendell. He was in charge of calculating the tilt rate required to keep the ascending spacecraft in frame and programming the remote camera to do so. I don't understand why hoaxers first assumption is that someone had to be there in person to get a shot like that.

NO ONE CAN!

David Messer luckily, it was their grandfather's generation that worked all the miracles needed to do the improbable. not the snowflakes.

You didn't goto the moon because American aren't smart enough to get it done. The Soviets went to the moon though. They filmed it. They were gentle enough to give the films to the Americans to NASA, so that NASA could modify the films with Hollywood technology to make it look like a live broadcast of American astronauts rather than Russian cosmonauts. The Soviets allowed this because they knew America's ego is easily bruised, they knew America needs it. The Russians were that magnanimous just like they were magnanimous to take their nukes away from Cuba while allowing America to station its nukes in Kaiserslautern. Communism is superior to the degenerate west. Mankind was on the moon, NASA wasn't. This is all ironic, of course, except for the remark with nukes.

Rainer67059 BHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, good one.

*"decadent west" not "degenerate west"

Ahhhhh Irony :3

But they didn’t take that route…check it online. NASA site shows the trajectory was through the equator not near the poles.

Its stronger at the poles and NAZAS van allen belt is bogus, its not a donut shape.

Why haven’t they done this again? Since it timed it perfectly before? Go figure Sherlock.

Totally agree, thank you, the earth is flat, the Orion, in 2015, admitted we never been high er than 240 off the ground we walk on, fact!!!

@@edwardhatfield6991 Ignorance is strong in flat earthers

@@HumptyDumptyOakland whatever buddy, humpty dumpty, bumbed his head, believe what you will, but if you believe the earth is a sphere, repent, cause you deny Gods written Word!!!!

So much stupid in this thread. Given my own experience with Aerospace and Aeronautical engineering, just go look up how much lead protects you from radiation, then go research what the outer layers of the Apollo spacecraft were made of. Oh, then look at the windows and what they were made of, because you will find those were lead lined glass. Even when I went to Advanced Space Academy we practiced drills for if the sun released a mass ejection and we would be at risk, as there are special designated areas of the spacecraft with extra thick layers of lead shielding to protect astronauts aboard the ISS, and aboard the Mir when that was around. The video in question that keeps getting linked to her relates to the effect the radiation has on computer systems, as the computer systems we used in the 1960's were cathode, and the integrated circuits were larger. The modern microprocessors are more susceptible to ionized radiation and Electromagnetic pulses due to the complexity, and a modern ship like the Orion will be especially susceptible. Radios have crystals that need to be properly calibrated, and the more off frequency the less likely the signal gets through. Likewise any sort of clock that is required for properly timed firings of engines, thrusters, and the parachute has a quartz crystal in it, which can likewise be damaged by enough ionized radiation and get the timing off. This is what he was talking about.

@@edwardhatfield6991 You mean the fiction that is the bible? Lol

Stfu african

@Clyran One Cognitive dissonance within a Statist mindset can be devastating.

Clyran One this is why some say "i would rather be red than dead in the head ...take a little trip back in time to the 1980's when the united states elected an old burnt out movie star for president of the united states of america . His name was Ronald Reagan . He had answers for everything . But never any correct answers .like " let no child be left behind". And another good one " just say no to drugsl So if a kid showed up on graduation day in a cap and gown , he or she got a diploma ..like the gal on jay leno , "jay walking" when jay ask her how many stars are on the flag flying above her head at her outdoor graduation and her answer was " i dont know , it's moving to fast to count them all " i done a little survey of my own a while back and found that my bar tender girl never heard of a war between the unites states and england ..simply because she was never taught american history in high school but she did graduate . Ask americans of ages 30 - 40 why we honor july 4th with fireworks displays ...they will tell you its to show respect to the manufactures of fireworks ...looks like they failed to invade area51 ...seems they all got wound up in las vegas at the pre-invasion party ! The one thing they know how to do ! Tell them the chinese landed on the moon over 5 years ago and a successful landing on the far side 3 days after new years of this year , and they will tell you that you are bat shit crazy . Now we got local collage students telling me that the earth is flat . I can remember when ronnie "ray gun" stood up to the russian president and said " mr. President tear down this wall" now we got a president who only wants to build walls ...like i have said before " the spade was trumped (the black man always gets it first) and now it's donald's turn to shuffle and deal " off the bottom of his deck) and deal with it as you will . Cause the united states doesn't really exist anymore since the opening of the federal reserve bank that is not a part of any banking system of any country's banking system , but it is owned by the royal family ..as it has been said many times before " the sun never sets on the Union Jack, never did and it never will!" look around you and think about it !!! George ( 1st pres.) and his army rowed their life boat arcross a river in a storm with George standing up in the bow aggressively swinging his sword at the British Navy of 90 cannons per ship that could shoot 5 miles inland on target of 500 pound exploding cannonballs . And ol' George ( cousin to the Queen ohf England) made all of the British Navy give up the battle and sail back home in defeat with a piece of paper for his cousin the Queen of England to sign over the united states to the colonists ...and every president since save one are all blood related to the royal family even all of those who ran for president of the united states, all cousins and uncles ...so now the stage is all set up with totally illiterate brain dead idiots who think they are in charge simply because they are now the majority ,but not knowing they are powerless over the rest of the world and the 6% of the population who own the world who by the way all have the most rare blood type on earth of being AB Negative of all the elite ! As old man president George Bush said " we will not be ruled by the laws of the jungle ,but by the laws of a " New World Order ...wecome to the jungle "One" cya

@Wendell Payne 14 Kilobyte will be barely enough for future, self driven autonomous rockets. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mq9dfbpjuq-ld2Q.html

No it did not you bafoon

The Belt STARTS at 1 Thousand Miles...MORON!

CMOS is more susceptible than say TTL due to the fact that it can be damaged by lesser static discharge events. Which if happened the electronics are protected sufficiently. CMOS chips are very vulnerable when being handled out of circuit! Hey! are aeroplanes using cmos technology? I guess so, so how is radiation worse for CMOS than say TTL?

ChrisFE Jackson - Airplanes charge/discharge continually into the air, I think CMOS in space could more easily (than TTL) be fried by accumulation of charged particles, e.g. - "Space assets are continuously bathed by charged particles making their components susceptible to the effects of spacecraft charging. While their orbits are not embedded within the radiation belts, low earth orbiting assets with high inclinations do pass through the horns of these belts during each polar crossing, transiting through potentially dangerous charged particle populations many times per day. Occasionally, these low altitude horns include significant populations of energetic ~1 MeV electrons, which can penetrate typical spacecraft shielding and accumulate within dielectric materials and on ungrounded conductors, a process known as internal charging." ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7930487/

Yes, by having static wicks on the wings. I personally think that for such static build ups, on 'spacecraft', only becomes an issue when the discharge event occurs. For example, I walk on a nylon carpet all day without affect until I come into contact with something that is either grounded or has a lesser static charge build up. Then I get the discharge event occurring which could be many KV 30 - 40+. Now if I am floating in free space through a highly charged field or I am generating charge by movement, I still have to have the discharge event to occur to cause damage, otherwise the charge build up would continue, to what level? well that is a thought and whole other explanation due to many factors, but such levels would also impact TTL devices just as much (Bipolar) as it would CMOS, because of the levels. Check out how the ISS or how NASA say they ground it out!! believe me I've looked into it and even their records and documents conflict!

ChrisFE Jackson, if you get a chance, check out the paper I linked to in the previous comment. It was just published in 2017, and the full text can be read for free. It is a study of the long term effects of highly charged electrons on POES and Metop spacecraft. From the paper: ""Of the hazards encountered by modern spacecraft, anomalies directly attributable to interactions with charged particles cover the range from recoverable to catastrophic failure of important systems (...) Environmental impacts to spacecraft include electrostatic discharge (ESD) from an accumulation of electrons (keV to MeV) on surface and internal components, single event effects (SEE) due to energetic heavy ions (MeV to GeV), and degradation due to total ionizing dose (TID). While spacecraft subsystems are designed to shunt charges away from susceptible components, if the electric potential from charge accumulation exceeds the breakdown voltage then an internal ESD (IESD) occurs, which can cause soft anomalies and permanent damage."

Hey Tom, I just had a brief overview of the page thankyou. Read the abstract etc. To me it is quite interesting (sad I know) but can see how the electronics and sub systems can be susceptible to such charges, especially where differing materials are used in close approximation to each other which may, as I'm sure you'll agree may allow for the ESD event to occur, due to the static build up upon differing materials. Again, the ISS if you look at all the differing materials used from plastic inserts to metal surrounds of interface, orbiting at an astonishing 17,500 mph in an environment which I assume is NOT a complete vacuum, the charges reaching the breakdown voltage of say CMOS channels and/or Bipolar junctions must be easily reached, I loosely state. However, it is only an issue when the discharge event occurs. So to prevent and monitor, they utilise Langmuir gauges to measure the density of the plasma field surrounding the ISS (or from their docs) around the solar arrays! Then there are the plasma control units (PCU's) that ionize xenon gas and eject out to neutralize the field, but these PCU's (two of them) are located on the Z1 truss of the ISS so presumably it covers the whole station and neutralizes the field as they move, perhaps. BUT, that is only for that finite time, move on a few seconds with respect to the speed and I'm sure the field must build up again & again. Given the fact that the station has been up there from the early 2,000's they must have sorted the heinous issues of ESD events from occurring, but offer up little information on how they actually do sort it continually. I do like this subject as you may be aware :) and have been involved in many projects relating to preventing ESD events from occurring to ensure the integrity of customers' systems over the long term. ESD events may not directly destruct components per say, but can stress the electronics leading to early 'life' failures. Given the time, it's a wonder how the ISS is not more troublesome, you would not get me on it, not now :)

Most were recovered. Or at least they tried to recover them. Sometimes it failed. Laika, the first dog it orbit, died when the air conditioning system failed, but that satellite wasn't planned to be recovered anyhow.

Tag...for the most part the animal testing occurred before any manned flights took place. Way way back even before the Gemini program. Check this out history.nasa.gov/animals.html. That ought to give you the answers to your questions.

Russia sacrificed a few animals by all accounts, that with the early test pilots, but i wont say anymore about that!

Most died, most still die today. There are test mice on ISS all the time for any number of tests and they almost never go back to Earth alive.

Ms....quite a few test mice on earth don't live long either. Besides Mice don't live long. They breed the way they do because they don't have long lifespans. This is also why they are ideal test animals. Because there are so many of them. One male in a tank with 5 females can, in a very short time, produce up to 40 offspring in a few weeks. LOL. Is truth.

Their 160ASA Kodak film never got that CT scan however as there's not a fogged roll during the entire ridiculous fictional series. This is what Kodak say about film fogging. Read this then look at the Apollo photos. kodak.com/global/en/service/tib/tib5201.shtml#SEC47

@Karl Collier 6 hours? Most Apollo tales were of 12 day trips and over 11 hours in the belt zone! Which leaves about 11 days in unprotected space withe the solar wind and cosmic radiation :) Outward 2:44 in history.nasa.gov/afj/ap11fj/02earth-orbit-tli.html 8:30 in history.nasa.gov/afj/ap11fj/04nav-housekeep.html 5.75hrs, 3.8 orbits Inward 189:28 history.nasa.gov/afj/ap11fj/26day9-reentry.html 194:53 history.nasa.gov/afj/ap11fj/26day9-reentry.html 5.5 hours, unknown orbits. Total in + out time = 5.75 + 5.5 = 11.25 hours.

Nice one. Please let NASA know how safe they are as they are under the miscomprehension that they could be dangerous.

CGMeadia/Spaceley- Sound Art Media systems kzfaq.info/get/bejne/atucqLiCvc_OmWg.html

Derhesligebonsaibaum Yeah, brain cancer!

DAM THOSE EYE'S !! LOL

"nasa supposedly lost the telemetry data for the entire apollo mission in less than 10 years" This is a gross overstatement from moon-landing deniers and it's _not true!_ They lost _some_ of the raw data from _one_ of the missions - and they had already copied & used the data they "lost." Just another lie from the moon-hoax nuts.

oh yeah rockets need friction/resistance and space has neither if its a vacuumn right?

@@dwaynewilburn7921 No they don't. Learn basic physics.

@@Agarwaen hes right. no thrust without atmosphere

@@808fishman8 absolutely wrong. learn some basic physics.

I believe the timing & specific destination dictated that they take a route more directly through the VA belts, through more radiation than the other missions.

Yes, it's almost double, but it's still a trivial amount. Radiation in space is a bit like the weather. It's not a fixed thing, it varies all the time. Sometimes it rains a lot, sometimes there's no rain for days. It's likely that there happened to be a bit more solar activity during that one. Nothing to worry about though. If there had been a really large solar event during a mission, they might have died. They were aware that such a random event was possible, but that was just one of the many high risks they accepted. Balls of steel.

Have you watched the whole video? Do you know what context is?

Yes they need to finish designing their new craft to send people up. Where’s the inconsistency?

Absolutely loonies

If he's so sure the van allen belts were impassable, ask him _how he knows about the belts at all._ Ask him how radioactive the belts are - demand figures - and ask him what portion of a lethal dose the astronauts would have received passing through them. He won't be able to answer any of those questions, of course.

@@Tim22222 I did that already, and his reply was that the "proof" was all in this KZfaq video with a professor saying that it was impossible to survive the passage. And then never mind all the rest like photos of boot tracks on the Lunar surface, carefully collected rock- and dust samples, ALSAP data, and so on. I even told the fool that van Allen himself had said that survival was possible. Granted, you cannot park a spacecraft there for months and survive, but a few minutes fly-thtough, yes, easily. But my neighbour (which was in fact a good friend for a decade until this came up) has turned out to be a lustful lair, making things up as he goes along, and who got angry every time I called him out on it with facts. Consequently, there is no reason to waste more time on him since nothing computes: He has COPD and less than 40% of his lung capacity left, but still he smokes cigarettes, claiming that it was the hashish that he smoked (and quit from only because the only dealer in this rural area died a couple of years ago), not the cigarettes that caused it, hence ignoring all the scientific evidence. I can use my time much better than trying to reason with him because it can only be an exercise in futility.

@@sneakyfox4651 Yeah, facts simply do not have any effect on such people. Their conspiracy beliefs are too closely tied to their sense of identity. Sad.

@@sneakyfox4651 You've got to love people who trust NASA when it tells them the VAB exist and that they are full of "deadly radiation" but then don't trust NASA when it says it devised a way to avoid the worst of the belts, or that it put shielding on the craft.

@@critthought2866 Yeah. I always wondered how people could just pick and choose what fitted their narrative, discard all contradicting evidence, even from the same source, and still look at themselves in the mirror.

Can't you google? Don Pettit, when speaking metaphorically about the tragic cancellation of the Apollo program.

The Saturn V cannot be re-used because it is a disposable launch vehicle, meaning the only parts that make it back to Earth intact is the command module, the astronauts, and the samples collected. That's what that worker meant.

Heh, cheers. It's more fun to counter them with reason!

The old retired astronaut *did* smack someone! :-)

Jacob Nielsen 😂😂

I'm no radiobiologist, but wouldn't it make more sense to have sent an animal, such as a chimpanzee, to the Moon and back, instead of a human Apollo 8 crew, for proof that such a mission was survivable? Also, is NASA's own chart at 7:42 , that claims the astronaut's radiation exposure was minimal, really acceptable proof that NASA sent men through the Van Allen radiation belts and onto the Moon? I mean, if the Apollo Moon missions were faked, wouldn't it stand to reason that NASA would concoct a phony radiation exposure chart to support their claim?

I’m no asshole, but give her a break for misspeaking

@@jd.3493 mistakes do happen if you are reading to fast for youtube video

German Nazi Scientist

@@donniebaker5984 He seems to have been a Nazi of convenience, if you will. He joined the Nazi party to repeated the party line because the Nazis let him build rockets, then he became an American and believed in freedom and democracy and the American way, because the Americans let him build rockets. He did have quite idealistic reasons to want to build rockets, but it seems like he would do or say whatever he thought would appeal to the people who had the power.

A better question is, why do you think they wouldn't be able to get through? Can you show me your calculations, or point to a scientist saying they can't? No, of course not. You've been fooled by stupid conspiracy videos, that's all. The Van Allen belts are not a big problem, and never were. The only people who think they'd be "deadly" are idiots who misunderstand science. Sure, if you stayed in the most active part for weeks, they'd kill you. So they didn't do that. They passed quickly through the less active parts.

@Jan Bily Don't change subject. Tell me *why* you think the radiation would kill in that time. Show me your references. Here's mine, saying it wouldn't; the calculations shown here are very easy to follow, and supported by all available data; www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/SMIII_Problem7.pdf Stick to the topic. I know you conspiracy freaks love to throw in dozens of other things, but I'm going to ignore those for now. I'll very happily discuss what Don Pettit said - *after* you respond to my questions about radiation. I want to understand *why* you think the radiation would have killed them. Show me how you've calculated it. I suspect you cannot show me. I think you've just heard it on some dumb conspiracy video by a piss-drinking yoga-teacher, and that it's based on nothing at all except personal incredulity. I wonder if you'll be mature enough to acknowledge that. I doubt it, as hundreds of previous comments below show that you folks normally run away when faced with logic.

Solar flares perhaps? Maybe we could look up sunspot activity for the days of the missions.

Looks like the data was skewed by a failed dosimeter. There was also a solar flare a week prior to launch.

Brad Scarp well there was a computer glitch that held up the landing for a while while they worked out a workaround. Maybe that was a contributing factor?

Brad Scarp I don't know, but I'd guess solar flare

Turns out golf balls act as a radiation amplifier. Damn shame...

Brand new systems in the Orion. Never been in space before. The stuff used in probes isn't up to the task of fulfilling the Orion's mission parameters so they've had to design new systems. These new systems had to be tested before sending the ship up with a person in it.

That's not really the point I was making. I was pointing out that if moon skeptics are cherry picking "electronics can't survive the Van Allen belts" from this unrelated video about a completely different project, then they must also be claiming that no probes have ever left earth's orbit regardless of the evidence.

Woops. I thought you were asking it as a question.

It's definitely worth remembering that technology evolves. I used to have a job where I would work with discarded technology to recycle or scrap it and I got ahold of some computers made back in the 1980s a few times. It reminded me how exciting these ancient PCs and first generation Macs were when we first saw them, and how satisfying it was to turn one on and get interesting results fast. Nowadays a typical computer has thousands of times the processing power and clock speeds, but we expect the computer to do millions of things "under the hood" that were simply undreamed of 30 years ago, and these things clog up the operating system and suck up all that power and jam up the speed, so that opening a file today can take much more time than it did on a Mac SE! This is partially because the file does a million times more things of course and is much larger. So it is that we rely on tinier and tinier micro components, and these are inherently more and more sensitive to a given level of disruption. Thus, radiation events that would not be noticed by Apollo's pre-silicon clunky electronics would wipe out entire chip sets today. Obviously if the Air Force expects a modern spy satellite to do its job they are looking into ways to harden the equipment, or use redundant systems to recover after the fact. The point is, modern astronauts and mission planners would be horrified to have to work within the limits of 1960s electronics, and yet the modern stuff we want is much more delicate versus space radiation. Therefore it is perfectly logical that a modern spaceship needs new levels of design attention one in the 1960s could let ride.

exactly. The Apollo missions got to the moon with the computing power less than that of a TI-83 calculator, They didn't have tiny electronic components on the spacecraft because the microprocessor wasn't even invented until 1971. They relied on large electronic components with wires all over the place, they had to manually change the configuration of the wires if they needed to reprogram the system. Back on earth, mission control was using pen and paper and giant tape drive computers. The Apollo missions had no sensitive electronics on board. They barely even had electronics on board. It was pretty much just a rocket with some wires inside. The most sensitive "electrical components" in the Apollo missions were the astronauts' nervous systems, which was already covered. They saw flashes of light from the radiation exciting neurons, but they had no lingering effects once back home. But we've already shown that we can send small sensitive electronic components through the Van Allen belts provided they are properly protected, since we've sent modern probes and rovers to Mars, Pluto, Jupiter, etc. since the 21st century.

I had a very big elephant PC that working slow at my desk at the mid of 90's

Man what?!