Historical Total War fans need a support group...

I can hear it already. The agony cries of Medieval fans.

So this is how historical TW dies...with thunderous applause.

Every single Total War Fan: WE WANT MIDEVIL 3! Creative Assembly: "Best we can do is WW1"

Fans: "We want new historical titles!!" CA: "Got it!! Milk every fantasy/science fiction franchise possible"

I'm so sick of everything that isn't a TRUE historical TW game. Even a remaster of Medieval 2 or Empire would hold me over at this point.

There won't be a SW Total War It's just a rumour from only ONE website

Folks. I don’t think we may ever get a historical Total War title ever again. I’m starting to get REALLY pissed off now.

Someone at CA has clearly forgotten the tale of the fall of TellTale Games

I don't care for Disney Star Wars at all

"YES, IT'S REAL" in this case meaning "unconfirmed rumours that almost certainly aren't real".

Clickbait title so you get a thumbs down from me. What does "YES, IT'S REAL " in the title mean? Nothing has been officially announced and confirmed yet.

I'm confused on why people are acting like WW1 isn't by definition a historical total war

3 Total War titles that should be in development are; Victorian Era Total War 30 Years War Total War 16th Century South East Asia Total War

Honestly it anger me hearing the potential of Total War changing it's gameplay for these new fantasy titles (40k and SW). I prefer preserving the Total War gameplay as is.

I give up with CA.

They can’t make LOTR that would massively sell but they will do WH40k.

Fans: we dont want wizards anymore Ca: how bout space wizards

It seems unlikely to me given CA's state. 8 months after a $100 Million failure and many layoffs, I'm supposed to believe CA is developing 3 or 4 huge flagship products simultaneously? How many dev teams do they have? Did they open a portal to the warp for infinite resources? It would believable if they were only developing 40K and Star Wars. I think that Total War is going to abandon historical entirely. It's not making them money and they haven't had a success with historical since 2018 with 3K, which they proceeded to foul up during its DLC cycle. 40K, LOTR, Star Wars, etc. all these are easy winners that even CA can't mess up and promise years of DLC income, which is a logical step forward from TW Warhammer.

It has been 15 years since Empire came out and I've been waiting for a sequel since then. This must be what purgatory is like.

CA choose the most "who ask ?" setting ever for their game :

I do seriously worry that the Star Wars Total War will be based on Disn*y "canon"...

I have no faith in CA do do this properly!

The fact that Total War is not developing is solely the fault of CA. They have a lot to grow in terms of mechanics, but they just make the same game with slightly different textures. They have not been able to bring the fleet to mind, to make it a significant part of the gameplay, so that players need to use it for a comfortable game and at the same time make naval battles interesting enough in themselves. They did not bring to mind the sieges, which still very vaguely resemble what actually happened, it is necessary to introduce a greater importance of various engineering structures in them, it is necessary to create a siege camp so that the besiegers do not stand in an open field, it is necessary to increase the importance of walls, which are now almost useless, it is necessary to remove pocket ladders, add moats, shafts, the need to overcome them and so on. Sieges can generally be made such a mini-game inside the game. The main troops are also not all right, there is no supply in the game and I can send my army from Crimea to Britain without having a single transshipment base along the way, which should not be the case. The hiring of armies itself could be radically reworked, because now in the game any army of any most barbaric state is in fact regular, although in fact various forms of militia fought mainly in the centuries before the 18th century, this could lead to a bunch of interesting situations when, for example, you can't fight for too long because your the troops will simply disperse, as they need to harvest crops, and much more. I don't even touch on the topic of domestic politics and economics, there is boundless space there, there would be a desire, but there is none. There is a desire to sell players a twenty-year-old game in a new wrapper. It's so frustrating to realize what huge opportunities CA is missing out on because of its greed.

CA went to the dark side

Medieval 3: Total War (1000-1400s) DLC's: 1. Age of Exploration(1400-1600) 2. Shogun lite + China DLC 3. India in depth DLC 4. Sub-Sahara Africa DLC 5. Early Medieval age

Not excited about any of the futuristic TW games.. I'm a huge fan of starwars and I like the WH 40k lore BUT I think we finally deserve a good Historical TW game again! I thought they were working on Medieval 3? I'd honestly already be happy with a medieval 2 remastered game by now...

No one: Absolutely no one: CA: !Star wars total war!!

Oh yay, more Warhammer and futuristic/modern settings I have absolutely zero interest in playing...guess it's Manor Lords time, then

they have gone fkin insane, this is now a speedrun on how to fk up the franchise

Fuck sake. Back in the day Warhammer was supposed to be a big cash influx so they could expand and grow and then bomb out more epic scale historicals.

It makes me sad that there won't be another Three Kingdoms. Its an interesting time period, and 3k had some of the best features I've seen in any total war game to date. The campaign map experience was unmatched(personally), except for the map design. The UI was exceptional and I really hope it can be used in more TW games. The UI made the game feel much more realistic, with resources like supplies, for cities and armies. The army system was super interesting, as it only makes sense that armies that have fought under a general would remain(somewhat) loyal to that general. Honestly I think that the Total War franchise suffers from new renewing the 3K game

Ok... Lets ser how good they are. Still waiting for some roman, medieval, napoleonic era strategy tho

IF these rumors are true (and I don't think so) they draw a very sad future for historical TW =/

Just give me a big historical. If it’s WW1 perfect. Idc just domething

The total war formula is not compatible with the modern warfare of WWI, let alone star wars or 40k. Sure I would love a beautiful, high budget, strategy game for any of these properties. I just hope people get that a total war in a setting like these will have to be massively different from other total wars to make any sense. So different, it could practically be a different game. At that point we already have other games in these settings.

I still pray we'll one day get another gunpowder era Total War

WW1, WW2, LOTR, WHF and 40k are all I have ever wanted. I was so happy to get a WHF total war.

So this is the final nail in historical total war coffin 😢

I have always wished for a total war set around the first world war. I do think it would need to start in the mid 1800s so when you get to ww1 and the rapid technological advances it gives a late stage challenge like real commanders went through Also agree that it would need naval warfare and I would argue needs aircraft as well

Considering how WWI was fought, I feel a WWI total war is the most realistic one CA could develop and release to satisfy the community. I mean it was massive infantry pushes and tank pushes n thanks to WHTW we have seen steam tanks, why not slap some A7V's or some Saint-Chamond tanks down. Empire and napoleon gave us a system for regiments taking cover behind barricades, in buildings, and on fort walls for the ranged units so applying that to a trench line would be easy. the trickiest part would be figuring out the WWI styled artillery which ranged from 37mm to 420mm. WWI would be the one I expect to be best received and easiest to make. 40k would be the second most likely one given total war warhammer's... "success?" perhaps persistent is a better term. 40k has a mix of tanks, melee units, and ranged units, siege units, monsters, but considering that some ships (especially in the Imperium) have guns on them bigger than a super star destroyer? I doubt there would be naval combat, it would most likely be locked to a single planet like the battle of Kronus featured once already in Dawn of war Dark Crusade meaning we would get chaos, space marines, imperial guard, tau, orks, necrons, and eldar to play around with. Star wars though? I haven't a clue how they would work that one into a total war styled game. Maybe planets will function like settlments and you would be able to build fleets and train armies from them? blockading a planet instead of besieging it and landing an army to invade and take said planet? That would work for making a truely massive Starwars total war aswell as a 40k total war. I see em releasing 40k total war first, as warhammer is ca's thing at the moment, then starwars, cause fantasy has been ca's thing for awhile, and finally WWI. Ideally I'd say they should release WWI total war first, then starwars, and finally warhammer.

Historical fans to CA: you don’t need to work on a Star Wars game, these aren’t the genre’s we’re looking for, you can go about your business making Medieval 3.

Oh I hope not. CA need to invest in and improve the fundamental TW model; not just farm another IP

sadly i have no faith in CA's ability to provide a good game anymore especially when they try to "Innovate"

I appreciate you using Star Wars: Empire at War footage, if Total War did Space battles like that game I think it’d be amazing personally

Y'know what, provided they do this well, I think success of this will fuel a better historical series of games. Keep in mind, these new games will ALL have a brand new engine, which now allows us to play in 3 dimensions. Even if it's bad at launch, that alone is more than gonna fuel a new line of incredible mods.

If they are actually doing this my question is will it be a fight over a single large planet with multiple factions? or will we be fighting over planets and if so are we getting space battles?

Wait a minute today isn't 1st April 😂

I actually have no clue how they gonna realize the WW1 total war because there shouldn't be any line firegroup tactic

2:16 - I agree. But then what is the point of total war if it’s not about having g massive armies clash on the field?

i wanted a global victorian age total war that went into more area depth with the world open similar to empire total war

Please just be Dawn of War with a campaign map, please just be Dawn of War with a campaign map, please just be Dawn of War with a campaign map...

The only way a WWI Total War game can work is if it is not Total War or if it is not historical

I can officially confirm that Star Wars total war might be in development

Are you freaking kidding me? No Med 3 or Empire 2. It's like they are trying to piss fans off on purpose.

For more recent players trying to understand older ones comments about recent historical games being "not historical" (I'm somewhat in the middle): it's not specifically about the historical accuracy itself but about their old formula: - armies not requiring commander to be able to move and fight - units without hp with kill chance calculated depending on different factors - sieges that actually work and are intense with defense structures being meaningful - technologies actually unlocking new units and buildings - unit formations - deeper strategy systems like proper population, growth Etc. CA made a lot of small changes with each new game that combined into Total War formula drifting further and further from what attracted original fans of the series My personal take is that I'm annoyed that whenever CA design a system that actually works and is something worth developing they immiedieatly abandon it in the next game instead of improving

My concern is a drop in quality if they are going to rush games out one after the other a year apart. It took them 5 years after release to finish WH2, we are in the 3rd year after WH3 came out with lots of work to still go and more work being done on Pharaoh, are they going to have enough experienced staff to go around to ensure quality across the board once all these new projects are released.

It seems Manorlords freaked them out…

Personally I'm wondering about a few things; How much a Warhammer 40K Total War will differ itself from the Dawn of War series (or whether that's old enough that we need not worry)? What trilogies will feature in a Star Wars Total War and how you'd transition between them (perhaps an event causes the Republic, then later Empire, to fall and your clan then chooses loyalties between the successors)? How will a World War One Total War deal with the Firepower Revolution and the shift in urban combat from Wall and Street Fighting to Barricade and House to House fighting? As the big block units of previous Total War games would be shredded by machine guns more than they were against the Gatling Guns in Fall of the Samurai as rapid fire weapons are more ubiquitous by 1914 and even rifle infantry have a far faster rate of fire than previous eras with British Rifle Infantry in 1914 being trained to fire 15 aimed shots a minute as a base line (with some being able to manage up to 42 in the Mad Minute competitions) not to mention the range of artillery in the first world war and the increased size of the battlefield compared to previous conflicts.

My main question is how would space age fighter jets and laser planes work in the Total War battle engine? Also, what would city or settlement management be like? Click on floating settlements in space?

I still don't know how these settings would work in a Total War style rts. Total wars whole thing is fighting in line formations, and WW1 is literally the reason militaries stopped using line formations lmao so I don't know how they're gonna make that work with changing the gameplay drastically

I get why people don´t want those things and basically demand return to more detailed and realistic historical games (I wish that too), but probably the biggest problem of their new games is repeating same format again and again while adding few features and taking out more. They can´t do that in those games and it might finally force them to innovate.

Thank you so much for this video I got my total war info fix.

oh god fuck no!

If nothing changes in the studio I dont think they can make it

If Stormtroopers don't have really poor aims it won't be true Star Wars!

Which one is coming first?

as a historical total war supporter i am both hyped for a ww1 game and hyped for a star wars game but scared for warhammer 40k

Excellent choice for the background music. Empire and shogun 2 epic musical scores. Now I’m going to form that support group for the ignored historical genre. I’m getting too old to continue waiting for an empire 2.

1 positive for those of us wanting Empire 2 is that these could help with improving shooting based warfare….

I am hyped for the TW Pharaoh map expansion. I before Pharaoh was announced I was hoping for a map painter Bronze Age game, so I was extremely happy when they announced and more so now with this big map update. I am also extremely excited about TW Star Wars and do hope they will have a Clone Wars, Galactic Civil War, and Sequel Start Date Campaigns for it.

Also I feel very strongly the project that "died in its infancy" was Empire 2. The naval combat and mechanics would have been an easy thing to shift to the next total war.

What I wonder is how they are going to make the games with the current engine. Unless they announce that they are going or have already created a new engine for their future games, I find it very difficult. The current engine can barely handle Warhammer games, try to do space combat with capital ships, fighters and other things, the engine would explode.

There is no need for Rome 3 when we haven’t even got Empire 2.

Due to recent issues with the past three historical total war games, if they make a WWI Total War, it needs to be done correctly. Nothing that will make it fantasy adjacent, or between history and fantasy; aside from having control of one nation and being able to change history as all other Total War titles have allowed. If they have to innovate and change a few mechanics to do it correctly, I am all for it. CA seems to have been rather stagnant in their creative process for some time now. The engine should be able to support both line battles as well as modern warfare (an opinion).

Honestly I’m thinking a combination of men of war assault squad total war, as in the strategic maps may not change but the battles may be of more detail like those in men of war where you take control of larger formations and have the options to call in re enforcements from your larger army stack that you engaged the enemy with. If you can picture what I’m saying

Is it 1 april yet?

I'd be surprised if they totally packed it in on TW:WW1 if that's truly what they were developing. Completely cancelling it a year before release would leave a massive revenue gap, even more than a year delay. Also if their other two line up games are both fantasy, this potentially leaves a 3 year historical gap. If the last update was nearly 6 months ago, that's a long time to cram development into

Damn, three entire games to skip! What a treat.

I would love a Victorian era total war but with the main story/campaign focusing on the U.S. Civil War. Then of course I would want this map to include the whole entire world or at least most of it. I think the main focus for the grand campaign should include building an empire or trying to keep your empire alive depending on who you play as. If HOI4 can have a map of the entire world then Total War can as well. This will of course will need them to bring back navy combat but even better than before with the introduction of iron clads while some navy’s around the world were still using wooden frigates

What I am actually most excited for is oddly enough for them to move on from Warhammer III, I just want them to give us whatever cool shit they got planned and then let the modders cook, so tired of my game being broken by the seemingly endless updates.

I've wanted WH40K and WW1 total war for so long I refuse to be disheartened by the fact I've been SCREAMING for Medieval 3 for a decade.

I'm a huge historical TW fan, but I have to admit, I'm curious and interested, as all of this might bring some fresh air to the formula and it might offer a different kind of experience which could be fun.

I have to say, i've been wanting a ww1 total war game, as much as a victorian total war game, i hope it's somewhat like medieval 2, which is in my eyes, the best historical title yet.

This is NOT what we meant when we said we wanted the Empire back 😭😭😭

I am devastated

If we get WW1 as a historical title I'll be the happiest man alive

i cant wait for total wars star wars i wonder what era its in

Without a new engine it will still be the same crap with a new skin. Same campaign and battle AI, same sieges, same movement for units, same rock-paper-scissor principle and so on.

Empire 2? Medieval 3?

I am a huge Star Wars Fan, but also long for the next historical entry, preferably Medieval 3. Therefore I am both happy and disappointed at the same time.

They’re all just…a bad option for a TW game. Total war is large infantry formations, cavalry. Siege engines, skirmishers, melee infantry. You can play with the formula a bit, it’s why fantasy works. It changes it up a tad, but at the end of the day, your siege engines and cavalry tend to win the day by routing the enemy. Any form of combat after the Victorian age just…no. Large infantry blobs became a very, very bad idea with the invention of the modern howitzers. It’s why we moved from line combat to the systems we have nowadays with squads, platoons, Companies, etc. Cavalry also ceased to be, as did siege engines because a howitzer doesn’t give a shit about your walls and a decently sized calibre MG doesn’t care about your stupid fleshy horses.

this is either gonna be one of the best crossovers or the worst. Time will tell, and we'll be here watching intently

I understand they want a hero inspired play style, but experience soldiers are heroes too, just not invincible lol

I love total war warhammer and all, but damn i really be needing something historical. I loved rome, empire, shogun. I want that so bad, with updated graphics. I just hope it isn't bad, that they don't dumb it down thinking "we got to dumb it down and make it simple so that new players understand. Example of this, look at battlefront 1 from EA. when we all head EA was making a new battlefront, how many of us thought it'd be like the og battlefront? how many people thought "omg we're getting a battlefield set in star wars?!" it was so hyped, and then it came out and it was hardly like battlefield. It was similar, but not it, and it feels like they dumbed it super down so that new players (as star wars is huge, it's going to bring people who've never played battlefield, or in the previous case, RTS/Total wars before) could jump in and understand the game easily. Even battlefront 2, it feels (although not AS much) dumbed down from something like battlefield which it is obviously trying to replicate without full diving into a battlefield experience. I want the game to keep its total war feel, but seeing as whenever it comes to huge IP's like Star Wars , I'm extremely afraid that Total War Star Wars will come out looking like a saga or worst

I hope there's cross era battles in total war starwars

If they wanted a ww1 total war to be fully accurate theyd need some form of entrenching mehcanic, or just keep it at mobile warfare

My worry about the World War I total war is that it’ll just become a game of numbers. in previous games you could be out numbered 3 to 1 but as long as you were smart about it and you some clever maneuvers to outflank your opponents you could win most battles. World War I however, I can’t really picture how that would work the technologies just to advance. I just hope that these next few titles aren’t as cartoony as the last few ones.

All I could think of for some reason was CA downloading some mods and releasing them as full games, thats what the titles sound like.. 😅

If the Star wars one has space battles it might be amazing.