Yeshua, Messiah Son of Joseph? - Messiah Son of Joseph - EP 13 - Case for Messiah

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ONE FOR ISRAEL Ministry

ONE FOR ISRAEL Ministry

7 ай бұрын

Who is the Messiah son of Joseph? Was this a post temple concept or a promise found in scriptures? How does Jesus relate to this concept? Listen with us and SHARE this fascinating series on the Messiah son of Joseph!
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@mikebosler7516
@mikebosler7516 6 ай бұрын
Repent and believe the gospel. Everybody needs Jesus. Only Jesus can save lost sinners. Jesus wins and the devil loses be on Jesus's side.
@cindylippy477
@cindylippy477 6 ай бұрын
Revelation14:6-7 the eternal gospel
@britanikothegreat8513
@britanikothegreat8513 6 ай бұрын
BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD THE DIVINE QUESTION AND DIVINE TRIAL WAS READY FOR MEN ANGEL OR GOD. GENESIS 1:0.*** GENESIS 1:1-27 GOD IS ONE BUT NOT ALONE!!! ONE MOMENT IN TIME. PSALMS 144:9. PSALMS 53:2-3. GENESIS 6:5. HEBREO 4:12.
@MohitDass-jt4ue
@MohitDass-jt4ue 6 ай бұрын
Please see (Ezekiel 18:21-22). No blood required and the same is taught by the New Testament itself in the parable of the Prodigal Son. Please listen to Rabbi Tovia Singer and return to the truth of Tanach.
@britanikothegreat8513
@britanikothegreat8513 6 ай бұрын
@@MohitDass-jt4ue Ezekiel 18:20. Jeremiah 23:6. James 2:23. Isaiah 62:1-2?!. Hebreo 4:12. Malachi 1:11.
@MohitDass-jt4ue
@MohitDass-jt4ue 6 ай бұрын
@@britanikothegreat8513 What is the point you’re trying to make?
@traianpetrescu578
@traianpetrescu578 6 ай бұрын
Excellent! I wish you 3 make a series, with deeper and more revealing podcast, it's time for this information to be heard by our Jewish brothers, and also traditional christians! Thank you!
@gracemorgan4274
@gracemorgan4274 6 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@faithfulservantofchrist9876
@faithfulservantofchrist9876 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately we know Israel won't accept the messiah until they are almost wiped out completely. I believe that is what is going to happen although I have never heard anyone go into depth on it. They had God walking around doing miracles left and right. After they rejected him they were almost wiped in 70AD and sent into exile for 2000 years. They again were almost wiped out by Nazi Germany. Then the biggest miracle happened the nation of Israel was born. If all of that happened to me I would see Jesus is the messiah and God is punishing us for rejecting him. They still reject him. They have hard hearts and scales on their eyes. I wish I was wrong.
@maryfulham1522
@maryfulham1522 5 ай бұрын
❤iLOVE!' WHAT WE HEAR! 💜iLOVE ! What you respond!EXCELLENT!🔥💔🔥🌹!! DeepestThanksgiving ...❣.... "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD HOSANNA IN THE HIGHEST"
@mikehenson819
@mikehenson819 2 ай бұрын
It’s clear to me now, that GOD the Father has allowed the Rabbis to hide the suffering Servant found in the pages of the Torah in order that HIS perfect will would be done according to the scriptures that all Prophecy will be fulfilled. I find this astounding. Glory to His Name!
@iceman45ification1
@iceman45ification1 6 ай бұрын
I really, really enjoy watching your channel. It further affirms my beliefs that Yeshua is the messiah, hearing it first-hand from Jews reading it in the Torah and the Talmud. Thank you guys so much for what you do. God bless you all. 🙏
@oswaldmattos8479
@oswaldmattos8479 6 ай бұрын
A very profound and meaningful discussion that exposes the prejudices of the rabbinics.
@josephdeisrael
@josephdeisrael 6 ай бұрын
I bought the book after watching this. I love the way he explains the prophecy from Torah and the definitions bewtween the two bulls.
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 6 ай бұрын
The subject of Messiah son of Joseph recently came up while reading Arnold Fruchtenbaum's book 'Footsteps of the Messiah'. I had heard back in the 80's that there were Rabbi's who spoke of two Messiahs.. one who suffered..and one who conquered. But back then we didn't even know something like the internet with unlimited information would ever exist.. that would have sounded preposterous but I digress. Suffice it to say it was extremely difficult to find information on subjects like this. We didnt even know what or who to ask about such matters. But to make a long story short where the rabbis got confused is they thought there would be 2 messiahs but did not consider that the suffering messiah who would die and the Messiah who would conquer death and make atonement for sin were one in the same - Yeshua of Nazareth.
@vdoniel
@vdoniel 6 ай бұрын
You stated so well what I tried to say in an earlier comment. In my younger days I could have never dreamed I would be listening to 3 professors in Israel speaking about the deeper things I caught glimpses of in my attempts to study the scriptures. It's almost overwhelming. From Georgia USA
@ContrabandTube
@ContrabandTube 2 ай бұрын
They didn’t get confused. Rabbinic Judaism is younger than Christianity and they hate Jesus.
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 2 ай бұрын
@@ContrabandTube kind of a barbed comment to make don't you think. Antisemitism in the body of Christ is a stench in the nostrils of God sir. Does John 12: 37-41 not explain something to you? How about Gen.12: 3? Are you a blessing to the Jews? or is cursing on your lips instead? "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: “May those who love you prosper." ~ Psalms 122:6 🕎✝️
@ContrabandTube
@ContrabandTube 2 ай бұрын
@@rapturebound197 so Abraham was a Jew???? How? Explain yourself. Expose your stupidity. Judah was 1 of the 12 tribes. Why don’t you ever hear anyone say, bless the Benjamites? Also don’t quote pieces of John. Jesus told you their fate… ”But all who reject me and my message will be judged on the day of judgment by the truth I have spoken.“ ‭‭John‬ ‭12‬:‭48‬ ‭ He didn’t lose any that God gave him. ”Here stand the thrones where judgment is given, the thrones of the dynasty of David.“ ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭122‬:‭5‬ ‭ Again another out of context verse. I should name my city Jerusalem and you American Zionists will send it money and pray for it too. You watch too much John Hagee. Repent.
@alixordonez2906
@alixordonez2906 Ай бұрын
@@ContrabandTube💯
@cindylippy477
@cindylippy477 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for a greater clarity of Messiah Ben Yoseph. I have heard the postion before yet you bring much food for thought!! Hallelu-Yah
@perpetuam_uitae
@perpetuam_uitae 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Amazing insight into scriptures to reveal the depth of meaning. I hope you're going to do a part 2! Dr. Postell said that Yeshua is also from Joseph, but pretty well the entire church believes His genealogy is related to Judah. Please spend more time explaining how Yeshua fulfills the relationship to Joseph/Ephraim!
@mountainman78629
@mountainman78629 6 ай бұрын
I’m not seeing it. Judah and Joseph were brothers. No way Jesus can be of the lineage of Judah thru David and at the same time thru Joseph. Joseph is not a descendant of Judah. I’m thinking this other messiah can at best be a type of Christ but he’s saying it’s from rabbinic literature which is not inspired and no better than any commentary we have access to
@davidmitchell265
@davidmitchell265 6 ай бұрын
This question will be addressed in later episodes in this series.
@anitajohnson8920
@anitajohnson8920 6 ай бұрын
Jesus told the rabbis that all of the scriptures point to Himself, but they didn’t believe. I’m not interested in these old rabbinical writings.
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt 6 ай бұрын
​@@anitajohnson8920We are not even being told on this podcast who this son Ben J is in history! Why? And I found it quiet frankly, doing my dear head in with confusion in That ! Now alot of Christ Messiah Scripture's WERE being quoted ALSO that refered to this other son Ben J! And CHRIST never spoke of this fellow at all before Himself as came! Christ only ever refered to Himself alone and all Sripture pointing to Himself, like in the reading Christ gave on a Sunday in His own town in the temple when He got up and read and refered it himself and they wanted to stone Him. And again after Christ arose from the grave and joined the 2 on the road to Emmias, unfolding all Scripture speaking of Himself who was to come. Christ again ONLY EVER SPOKE OF Elijah and the Prophet's FOR-TELLING of He's own Coming. That's truth! So Im confused.
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt 6 ай бұрын
​​@@davidmitchell265We'll it should have been sincerely addressed in this podcast. That it was not, is just creating confusion, as many Scripture's were quoted that belong only to THE CHRIST! And that he's identity was not clarified stirs up only confusion; And THAT is of the devil!
@mattalan5025
@mattalan5025 6 ай бұрын
Excellent, per usual. Context and Content, dialogue and conclusions are important as Spiritually conveyed and Discerned. Baruch Hashem Yeshua for breathing Life and Ruach into One For Israel and all its associates, called to make disciples. Oseh Shalom, Vimru Amein !
@jimpsonuyaguari9665
@jimpsonuyaguari9665 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the teachings in the Lord. God bless you brothers and sisters in the name of our Lord Jesus Savior.
@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus
@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus 6 ай бұрын
I guess it's no coincidence that his earthly fathers name was Joseph also. Great Podcast! Thank you! I would love to see you guys now do a longer study on this with all the OT verses. That would be amazing! God Bless you in Jesus name! Praying for Israel from Vancouver Island, BC., Canada. God Bless the Jewish people in Jesus name, Amen🙏
@crisseven1764
@crisseven1764 6 ай бұрын
That will be part 2 probably
@mountainman78629
@mountainman78629 6 ай бұрын
Rabbinic literature is not scripture. It might be interesting to read but Rashi seems to be a flake and I’m amazed how many people think he’s some apostle Paul of the Hebrew Scriptures. To me it proves what Jesus said, if someone comes in his own name you’ll believe him. It just shows how bad the lost, including lost Jews choose anything over God and His Messiah
@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus
@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus 6 ай бұрын
@@mountainman78629 I agree Rabbinnic commentary is not scripture - he was just using it to prove that the Jewish sages believed in a suffering Messiah, even though they deny a suffering Messiah today. Rabbinnic commentary is also useful when catching lying KZfaq cult leaders like Tovia singer twisting scripture - for example; Tovia will mistranslate ZECHARIAH 12:10, but the Babylonian Talmud will confirm the KJV translation.
@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus
@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus 6 ай бұрын
@@mountainman78629 I don't believe there is a Messiah Ben Joseph at all - I believe Deuteronomy is speaking about geological surveys, but the very fact that the anti-missionaries use this verse to say that the Messiah will suffer and die for the people proves they believe in a suffering Messiah. I disagree with this scholar in many things.
@jenniehudson7862
@jenniehudson7862 6 ай бұрын
Check out the life and ministry of Joseph Smith, whose father was named Joseph. Book of Mormon has prophecies of this Messiah and Joseph. Check out second Nephi chapters three and four. It’ll blow your mind.
@Nocensorshipofanykind
@Nocensorshipofanykind 6 ай бұрын
Your book just arrived at my house! Thank you for putting so lunch time and effort into this topic and praise the Lord for showing you this.
@iangoh5836
@iangoh5836 6 ай бұрын
I highly recommend David Mitchell's book "Messiah ben Joseph". I first heard his interview on Mike Heiser's podcast and was blown away. It can get technical for the average layperson (like myself) as it delves into many sources both Biblical and extra biblical. But if you take the time to work it through, you will realise its implications are altogether mysterious, profound but yet wholly conclusive. As a Christian, my faith comes out strengthened. For the Jew, these are yet more reasons to believe that Jesus is the Maschiach. He is the One who will take us to the new creation.
@mountainman78629
@mountainman78629 6 ай бұрын
Show me messiah son of Joseph from scripture, not rabbinic writings. No way some other messiah has to die and be raised from the dead to prepare the way for the Lord to die and be raised from the dead. There’s 3 Persons in the godhead, not 4
@iangoh5836
@iangoh5836 6 ай бұрын
@@mountainman78629 I could show you but can i suggest you read the book instead? Teaser: its 3 persons in the Godhead, not 4.
@marygayquigley9672
@marygayquigley9672 6 ай бұрын
​Watch part 2. Jesus is connected to both the son of David and the son of Joseph. It all describes our one Savior, Jesus Christ.
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt 6 ай бұрын
​​@@mountainman78629Im with you. A fanciful Ridiculous notion. I mean, no mention of who this Ben J son WAS in historical biblical life on earth!!!? As Jesus christ never spoke of anyone but Elijah and the Prophets and king david when refering to biblical proof of Himself!
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt 6 ай бұрын
But in biblical true life history, who is he? Why did the fellow interviewed not say?
@ElizabetaDante
@ElizabetaDante 6 ай бұрын
This man is a jewel. This kind of material l expected from this channel like..a lot of time ago! Finally it arrived!
@shoponadimellc3413
@shoponadimellc3413 2 ай бұрын
Me too omg I absolutely love this podcast and one for Israel! We need to remember to pray that the Jewish people come back to God and Torah first and foremost, and then we can get them to the messiah ! We must do this for them! For the sake of Yeshua Jesus ! These are his people that he loves so much , he is the Jewish Rabbi! The high priest! The savior! They brought us the Torah without Messiah! We must complete this Holy Spirit movement and bring them the messiah! Now! It’s time and everyone of us know it! This is the time the hour the end of days! What a time to be alive and see the pouring out of the Holy Spirit of HaShem! Our very Jewish messiah. I’m just amazed and I’ve been waiting for this day when the nations are hungry for the spirit of God! Wow
@doulostheou777
@doulostheou777 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic episode. Can't wait for the next one.
@OligosFew
@OligosFew 6 ай бұрын
I saw the 2 messiah's and I saw where Ruth and Boaz story shows they are of Ephraim. Then I went through the genealogies and perhaps Jesus came from both houses by blood and by adoption? Either way I don't have to solve everything just be prepared for Him to unfold what He wants me to know. Now I see Him as both just as I see Him as both the LION and the LAMB
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt 6 ай бұрын
Where did you see a biblical account of 2 messiah's? And apparently for such a huge figure in history, he cannot even be named! That is not right to myself! And Christ never speaks of anyone but Himself. Jesus Christ Son of the living God only ever spake of Elijah and the prophets and king david when referring to himself.
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 6 ай бұрын
@@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt it's no mystery why a catholic doesn't get it.
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt 6 ай бұрын
@@rapturebound197 The Catholic church never mentions a 2 Messiah's notion, if she did it would Be apart of our basic Doctrine and Faith. No its not. Moses and the Prophets only.
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 6 ай бұрын
@@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt You couldn't get much more catholic than my family and our history in Poland. My aunt was a Nun and served at Notre Dame.. We lived next door to the Polish catholic church and school. I know exactly what they teach and who they are. We had large crosses with Jesus on them all over the house. We had pictures of the Pope on the walls. We wore out more rosary beads than the pope. We had statues of Mary in the house and yard. I went to mass and confession with my grandmother a zillion times. We lit candles to get my grandpa out of purgatory. I could fill a swimming pool with the "holy" water. We wouldn't dream of not having a St. Thomas medallion in the car to keep us from having a wreck. We ate fish every friday. We played bingo in the church basement 3 times a week. But one of my biggest and most agonizing memories growing up as a catholic was we had the biggest most beautiful white leather bound Bible you've ever seen. It was in the living room in a plastic cover on display. It had been in the family for eons.. and in all my years we NEVER ONCE EVER OPENED THAT BIBLE. It was there like every other catholic "furnishing". It was there for show. We were never once taught nor encouraged to open a bible.. and we sure as heck were never inspired to read it. The catholic church teaches you how to be a Catholic.. not a Christian. Big big difference. The truth is the catholic church relied on the illiteracy of its people for millennia! Even if you were lucky enough to have a bible people couldn't read.. people relied on the priest to tell them what it said and they knew it so they took advantage of it. They didn't want people reading it for themselves because if they did it wouldn't have taken long before the people in the pews would have started asking hard questions. There's a lot of things the Catholic church doesn't mention my friend.. and A LOT they teach that is pure heresy. The Catholic church will burn in hell for what they've done to millions and millions and millions of people. As far as this video goes they're not saying there are two messiahs. They're not even hinting at such a thing. That would be blasphemy. If you knew your bible like you know the Pope you'd know what they're teaching in this video. Joseph was a type of the messiah who would come.. so was David.. and I'm not talking about Marys' husband. Anybody with an ounce of courage who knows the gospel and what the cross really means would run out of the Catholic church.
@OligosFew
@OligosFew 6 ай бұрын
@@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt do you read your Bible? Use internet searches? If you want to understand you will learn and YT comments is not the place to build a foundation of understanding but a good place to get an idea to look for yourself.
@Shinehead3
@Shinehead3 6 ай бұрын
Your Guest is Speaking Truth One for Israel !!! i hope he is a regular guest on your Podcast from now on 😊 Shabbat Shalom Mishpacha 😊
@Mara-sim
@Mara-sim 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating! Totally absorbing and riveting as a valid source of truth within the Jewish text!!!😊❤
@Bad_Llama
@Bad_Llama 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this interview! I have so many questions about the Son of David and the Son of Joseph and this has helped answer them and given me some new sources. More, please. We are hungry for this as it describes our Lord. 😊
@GThePreacher
@GThePreacher 6 ай бұрын
They look like students listening to a professor in a class and so excited to learn Glory to God love this podcast
@Truth.Is.Intolerant
@Truth.Is.Intolerant 2 ай бұрын
My wife is Vietnamese, she would call this video "Mini Messiahs." Her ancestors did not have the Torah however, her Grandmother always taught her to watch and search for the Messiah who would redeem mankind. She was taught that God always used mini Messiahs that would foreshadow the ultimate Messiah. My wife and her family did blood sacrifice to atone for sin but knew that it was not enough to redeem them for eternity. They knew that God had to provide a redeemer, one who would suffer and die for His people. My wife's ancestors knew nothing of Torah or Yeshua for that matter, but believed in the one true Creator God and His moral law, which is almost identical to Torah. When my wife read the OT for the first time, she said, "This is my culture, this is my God, these are my people." When she later read the stories of Yeshua, she immedialty knew who He was and what He had done. She cried for months and months and months. She had found the Saviour, the Ultimate Messiah. God has preserved the truth throughout the world and history, even without the written word. I am (was) a gentile Canadian lol, I now have faith in the one true God Yahweh, and His Torah. My wife has been a wealth of information and wisdom to me. We are so greatful to Yahweh and His Son Yeshua!
@darrenpick8919
@darrenpick8919 6 ай бұрын
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:44 KJV) 🙏🏽❤️🙌🏾💯
@WisdomCalls
@WisdomCalls 6 ай бұрын
You guys keep bringing us awesome teachings in these podcasts! Thank you! We’ve been talking about this exact thing as we read through Genesis. We are reading Joseph’s story.
@gregpfaffe4098
@gregpfaffe4098 6 ай бұрын
Dr Seth, YES! “ this is A BIG DEAL!”
@BlackhelmetapparelUS
@BlackhelmetapparelUS 6 ай бұрын
AND Daniel 9, the “Messiah shall be cut off but not for himself,” somebody dying for somebody else there, I’m gonna get the book! This is awesome!
@moomin8251
@moomin8251 6 ай бұрын
I knew of Messiah ben Joseph but I assumed it was just based on the many parallels between Joseph and Jesus' lives . The things we miss by just reading translated words! The Bible is truly living, it's as simple or as deep as it needs to be for any individual to understand what the Lord wants them to. I found Mr Mitchell's book, it's only available on Amazon in England. Can't wait to learn more.
@laever1804
@laever1804 6 ай бұрын
I love you brothers! I love your videos. Praise the Lord for your ministry!
@robertbennett5929
@robertbennett5929 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you for this podcast. God bless you all in Israel
@user-464
@user-464 6 ай бұрын
Incredible ♥️♥️♥️♥️this cements so many things for me. Thank you !!
@CaspianKhazar
@CaspianKhazar 6 ай бұрын
Second Temple period or intertestamental literature where Messiah Ben Yosef is also referenced or implied: - 1 Enoch 90.37-38 - Testament of Naphtali, - Testament of Benjamin - Sibylline Oracles - Apocalypse of Ezra - Joseph and Aseneth - Ben Sira
@rukshansubasinghe6426
@rukshansubasinghe6426 6 ай бұрын
Oh boy! This is Gold! Can someone help me understand how yeshua genealogically connected to Josef or Ephraim? Mathew 1 and Luke 3 connect him to Davidic line. Also, how they came up that He will come from gallie? Land of Zebulun and Naphtali?
@Lilly-2GBTG
@Lilly-2GBTG 4 ай бұрын
Watch parts 2 and 3.
@BiblicalApologetics
@BiblicalApologetics 6 ай бұрын
And this is why many like Tovia singer won’t debate those who know Talmudic literature and Judaism. Deut 32:43 from DSS should have also been read in the podcast also. Isaiah 9 speaks of the Galilee and the LIGHT that was seen(messiah who is the light of life/resurrection)
@macho13us
@macho13us 6 ай бұрын
Thanks brothers for the great teaching. May God continue to bless you. Praying for the Peace of Jerusalem from Florida.
@jspychalski7286
@jspychalski7286 3 ай бұрын
I just ordered his book, and I can't wait until it comes!
@Susan-hp2it
@Susan-hp2it 6 ай бұрын
So maybe this does explain why Matthew ‘s genealogy is different than Luke’s genealogy because they are both being written from the perspectives of different rabbinical authorities. Especially when you look at Luke’s he starts with Joseph which proves your point that they were looking at all the various text, proving the Messiah came from the line of David as prophesied all the way from the Messiah of Joseph.
@Mariah777100
@Mariah777100 6 ай бұрын
One of the most important teachings of The Scripture!
@darthvaper4776
@darthvaper4776 5 ай бұрын
As someone who grew up ultra orthodox I find this amazing Tnx for sharing I always heard these rumors about son of jeosph
@mattaikay925
@mattaikay925 6 ай бұрын
Thanks blessed teachers for bringing us this teaching - Baruch Atah Adonai Eloheinu Melech HaOlam.
@isaaccastillo8628
@isaaccastillo8628 6 ай бұрын
Amazing episode, please if our God and LORD Jesus provide, do more for us! Blessings dear brothers
@tracywallis5387
@tracywallis5387 6 ай бұрын
Yeshua/ Jesus the Lamb of GOD & The Lion of the tribe of Judah is coming again soon 🙏🙌 KING OF KINGS & LORD OF LORDS🙏✝️🕊🎺👑🙌❤🇮🇱
@CaspianKhazar
@CaspianKhazar 6 ай бұрын
David C. Mitchell is a first rate biblical scholar. He also write on his website that John, the Apostle, references Zechariah’s pierced Shepherd-King in the Gospel of John, specifically at the crucifixion scene where he quotes Zechariah 12:10 (John 19:37): "They will look upon me whom they have pierced." This particular passage is associated with Messiah Ben Joseph in both the Targums and the Talmud. The only other occurrence of this citation in the New Testament is found in Revelation (Rev. 1:7). Additional passages in John's writings align with this theme, and Stephen also alludes to Joseph as a messianic figure, akin to Moses, in Acts 7. Justin Martyr, one of the earliest Church Fathers, appears to be acquainted with many texts linked to Ben Joseph in rabbinic literature. Justin frequently discusses how these texts point to a second Joshua, identified with Yeshua-Jesus. It's worth noting that the Church Fathers, unlike the rabbis who anticipated multiple messiahs, believed in one Messiah, Jesus, who had already come. Many Church Fathers interpret Joseph as a type of Messiah too.
@kristenspencer9751
@kristenspencer9751 6 ай бұрын
Yes and there are some modern day pastors and teachers who explain how Joseph is a type of Messiah! Very exciting to find Christ in the OT. Jesus even says the OT is about HIM!
@JamesHoughton-hr8ef
@JamesHoughton-hr8ef 6 ай бұрын
Thank you - that is an amazing insight. Praying that all Israel can hear and see Yeshua as Messiah son of Jospeh and believe!
@valor101arise
@valor101arise 6 ай бұрын
Dr. needs to do an audio book of his book. His Voice!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@Lilly-2GBTG
@Lilly-2GBTG 4 ай бұрын
I love Dr. David Mitchell! He’s the best!
@entersweetrest8884
@entersweetrest8884 6 ай бұрын
This was so lit! 🩵
@user-ct6hx4qy7i
@user-ct6hx4qy7i 6 ай бұрын
I was homeless, did drugs, went into prison, where I got to know God. He changed my life. Now I have a home, a wife and a lovely year old daughter (Zoe), and a stream of income that gets me $32,000 Weekly. Plus a new identity - a child of God. Hallelujah!!!
@phyllis145
@phyllis145 3 ай бұрын
Years ago, I was listening to a sermon on Joseph. I was sitting in the pew foolishly comparing myself to Joseph in my thoughts. The Holy Spirit interrupted my thoughts to inform me that "Nay, you are not like Joseph, you are like the brothers." I sat there and wept as I realized this was true. I had sinned against my Savior and He died for me. I have never forgotten this lesson from the Holy Spirit.
@fidelfolozanoiii4499
@fidelfolozanoiii4499 6 ай бұрын
Jesus the Messiah is the Heavenly Son of JEHOVAH YHWH The Most High according to Peter, prophet Jeremiah and angel Gabriel: Matthew 16:16 Simon Peter answered [To Jesus]: “You are the Christ, the SON.. of THE LIVING GOD.” Jeremiah 10:10 But Jehovah is truly God. HE IS... - THE LIVING GOD - and the eternal King. Because of his indignation the earth will quake, And no nations will endure his denunciation. Luke 1: and you are to name him Jesus. 32 This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David (..)
@Stardust475
@Stardust475 2 ай бұрын
This is a must watch for all believers.
@wwazman
@wwazman 6 ай бұрын
It's not often that I stopped listening to one of these podcasts so early, but it seems that if God wanted something known it would be known and not hidden for 2000 years. Something supposedly revealed after 2000 years smacks of something completely FALSE
@Notevenone
@Notevenone 6 ай бұрын
If you watch a few of the testimonials on this channel you will hear regular people saying that they had been lied to for 2000 years. Thats not God that’s man. Perhaps our Lord wanted this information to be revealed at this time to bring more people to Him. He is doing that all over the world as we speak.
@3242rj
@3242rj 6 ай бұрын
@wwazman Provides say your statement in incorrect. Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
@PennySmart
@PennySmart 6 ай бұрын
Yes, that's exactly what I usually think but Messiah ben Joseph has not been hidden for 2,000 years, there have been mentions of him many times before: Jews for Jesus address this in "Yeshua, the Jewish name of Jesus". It's more that rabbis have been suppressing this truth as they suppress everything that clearly points to Jesus in the Hebrew Bible. Also Joseph was clearly a type of Christ in all the details of his life.
@Notevenone
@Notevenone 6 ай бұрын
@@PennySmart yes he certainly was, I agree completely. I listened to and interview between Michael Heiser and David. He said the same thing he said here, and didn’t mention the significance of all of this. I must be missing something.
@jecoliasjems2529
@jecoliasjems2529 3 ай бұрын
You’re not as learned in scripture as you think. I’m the time of Ezra, he had to rediscover The Law. Spiritual blindness was always part of punishment for disobedience and then, Abbah reveals.
@Born_Again_On_The_Mountain
@Born_Again_On_The_Mountain Ай бұрын
Two lineages to one Messiah, Jesus Christ.
@Besorah1729
@Besorah1729 Ай бұрын
I knew this but the detailed connections and information is absolutely mind-blowing! Excellent discussion and teaching! Bravo 👏 thank you!
@user-co6fw6ql7h
@user-co6fw6ql7h 6 ай бұрын
Nobody told me that. I was reading in Genesis and the light went on and I just understood. I know now that it was the Holy Spirit. I pray that everyone in Israel will know who "their brother Joseph" is.
@ddsu1
@ddsu1 5 ай бұрын
Amazing ❕️ it is a blessing to listen to this blessed teaching ❕️ God is revealing in His time. Amen - Debbie ( texas)
@kimsmith5919
@kimsmith5919 6 ай бұрын
CONSIDER: Joseph of these latter-days and the Book of Mormon, who was descended of Ephraim, and who restored Jesus’ Church. See Lehi 1-2.
@brighthought11
@brighthought11 6 ай бұрын
NO
@dekka213l
@dekka213l 6 ай бұрын
Amazing and Outrageous!
@joshuatushar7979
@joshuatushar7979 6 ай бұрын
Shalom from Bangladesh. I really love watching your channel.
@GM-ro9jt
@GM-ro9jt 5 ай бұрын
This was mind-blowing and awesome. Thank you!!!!!
@markhendricks
@markhendricks 6 ай бұрын
Fascinating! Thank-you.
@stewartparker1872
@stewartparker1872 6 ай бұрын
Like Berreans I’ll have to rewatch. I have never heard this from the scholars I have looked at. They need a nice PowerPoint graphics that follows this breadcrumb trail.
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt 6 ай бұрын
We'll as I see it. This Ben J son.. cannot be biblically in history told to us who he actually was! So great a figure must surely stand out and be remembered?
@jazzmaan707
@jazzmaan707 6 ай бұрын
WOW! EXCELLENT Discussion,
@darrenpick8919
@darrenpick8919 6 ай бұрын
The restoration of Israel Jeremiah 31.9:10 for I am a father to Israel and Ephraim is my firstborn Hear 👂 the word of the Lord , O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off and say He that scattered Israel will gather him and keep him as shepherd doth his flock
@user-ds2hr7nn8p
@user-ds2hr7nn8p 6 ай бұрын
Grateful for the insights. Looking forward to more. Question: If Messiah ben Joseph is to come from Joseph / Ephraim / Joshua’s lineage, how does Jesus fulfill that requirement? Yeshua is a descendant of David / Judah on both Mary’s and her husband’s side, I believe. One point: Jesus’ earthly father’s name was…JOSEPH, the husband of Mary, so in this way he is the Messiah ben Joseph. Thought that might be interesting since it wasn’t mentioned.
@josephbonham3045
@josephbonham3045 6 ай бұрын
I have the same question. Do we have to decide between them? My impression is that bloodlines were so mixed by the first century that most had some of every tribe in them, but for me this doesn’t resolve why the New Testament owns the content of this tradition and avoids the designation “son of Joseph”.
@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus
@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus 6 ай бұрын
Both Mary and Josephs lineage have a descendant named Joseph - it was a popular name. You can see Mary's genealogy in Luke. Her father is Heli - It always lists the husband with a star instead of the woman's name. Matthew is Joseph's genealogy. Son of Joseph means descendant of Joseph who is from the line of David and Jacob and Judah still.
@pennydyck8855
@pennydyck8855 6 ай бұрын
Dr. Mitchell explains this in the second video on this subject. The interjection of Ahab’s family into the line of David (which I always viewed as unfortunate) brings the line of Ephraim (son of Joseph) into Mary’s lineage. Also, the line of Levi is present in Mary’s lineage, as we see in her familial connection with Elizabeth. Amazing how God is always in control of all situations, regardless of how they appear to us mortals!
@vdoniel
@vdoniel 6 ай бұрын
This is such a blessing for these men of God to share their wisdom. I would never have known where to look in an actual library for such brilliant illumination of the scriptures. For me this is fulfilling prophecy Daniel 12:4“But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”
@rapturebound197
@rapturebound197 6 ай бұрын
It truly is a blessing! Baruch Ha'shem Adonai! 🕎✝️
@philprescott6266
@philprescott6266 2 ай бұрын
Amazing. Luke 24: 25-27. Excellent discussion.
@alvinaawong357
@alvinaawong357 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this powerful revelation 🕊️🔥🌈❤ I truly believe that the Jewish people will see that Yeshua was and is the Messiah that they've been waiting for. Thank you... Shalom Shalom!!!
@williamdunlop3108
@williamdunlop3108 6 ай бұрын
Wow that was an awesome look at the prophecy of Mashiach as called BenYoseph, thanx muchly. Shalom
@benjaminweiskorn9131
@benjaminweiskorn9131 6 ай бұрын
this was so good. you guys should debate the rabbis.
@WholeBibleWithGeorgeCrabb
@WholeBibleWithGeorgeCrabb 6 ай бұрын
JOSEPH was sent by his father out of Hebron (Means: Fellowship), finds his brothers shepherding the father's flock in Dothan (Means: Laws and Customs). This is how Jesus found the Religious leaders (Shepherds) of Israel. When Joseph approached them, they conspired to murder him. He was sold for pieces of silver, and his brother Judah came up with this plan - the name Judas derives from the name Judah. Joseph was thrown in the pit - like the tomb. He was handed over to the Gentiles and at that point, he was out of their lives for many, many years - like Israel and Jesus. His brothers came up with a lie, a lie that lasted a long time until Israel discovered HE WAS ALIVE! What was the lie? That a wild animal had devoured Joseph. This is so similar to how the text in Psalm 22:16 (17) was changed: "they bite like a lion my hands and my feet". So, just like Joseph's story, this lie has been going on for a long time and it was a lie to ISRAEL. But we see that in Joseph's story that ISRAEL discovers that he is alive! When did this happen? During the 7 year time of Great Trouble (The famine over all the earth). That speaks of the 7 Year Great Tribulation Period (Daniel's 70th week (7 year period). This verse, which is Psalm 22:17 in the Hebrew verse numbering, reads in most versions of the Masoretic Text as: כארי ידי ורגלי, which may be read literally as "like a lion my hands and my feet". The full verse of the Masoretic Text reads: כִּ֥י סְבָב֗וּנִי כְּלָ֫בִ֥ים עֲדַ֣ת מְ֭רֵעִים הִקִּיפ֑וּנִי כָּ֝אֲרִ֗י יָדַ֥י וְרַגְלָֽי (Kî sĕḇāḇûnî kĕlāḇîm 'ăḏaṯ mĕrē'îm hiqqîp̄ûnî kā'ărî yāḏay wĕraḡlāy). The syntactical form of this Hebrew phrase appears to be lacking a verb. In this context the phrase was commonly explained in early Rabbinical paraphrases as "they bite like a lion my hands and my feet". The Septuagint, (The oldest manuscripts) a Jewish translation of the Hebrew Bible into Koine Greek made before the Christian Era, has "ὤρυξαν χεῗράς μου καὶ πόδας" ("they dug or bore through my hands and feet"), which Christian commentators argue could be understood in the general sense as "pierced". Is it not amazing how God told this prophetic story of His Son Yeshua (Jesus) in the story of Yosef (Joseph)? This was not by chance, only God could do this.
@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus
@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus 6 ай бұрын
Dead Sea scrolls prove Psalm 22:17 reads, *_They pierced my hands and feet_* - Verse 20 clarifies by using the word sword and dog.
@Isaac-47517
@Isaac-47517 6 ай бұрын
Powerful stuff. TY for sharing. Please share more along these lines.
@mariak5529
@mariak5529 6 ай бұрын
Mind-blowing!!! thank you!
@abb_2024
@abb_2024 Ай бұрын
”He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.” - Luke‬ ‭1‬:‭32‬-‭33‬ (NKJV‬‬)
@RRH131
@RRH131 6 ай бұрын
I was wondering if this has any reference to the book by JH Allen called Judah Scepter and Joseph birthright. it was entered the library of Congress at Washington DC in 1917
@williamgroves9268
@williamgroves9268 3 күн бұрын
I was so impressed BUT then I checked Omri - not from tribe of Joseph, but Issachar (probably) and Basha (definitely). I’m disappointed that Dr Mitchell may not have given due research. If Jesus had lineage other than Judah, the scriptures would have recorded it. Disappointed because it sounded so impressive, especially the incident with the Samaritan woman in John 4. 2:07
@valorabock6325
@valorabock6325 6 ай бұрын
Loved this. Thank you.
@ministryrevealed
@ministryrevealed 6 ай бұрын
Boy oh boy. If you would come to the Ministry Revealed ministry. You would understand the rest of the answer that completes the Messiah Ben Joseph!!! It's been taught there for three years... the final piece.
@time_for_fast
@time_for_fast 6 ай бұрын
I don't know what to make of this and how it changes our faith in Jesus ?
@fivefoldfinancial283
@fivefoldfinancial283 6 ай бұрын
How does his teaching relate to our Messiah Jesus from the tribe of Judah?
@golanbro
@golanbro 6 ай бұрын
Please watch the whole series to find out, OK?
@shoponadimellc3413
@shoponadimellc3413 2 ай бұрын
Yes please do as many others need to also this Ben Joseph u speak of is Jesus gee whiz!!! Smh attention spans aren’t any good now days!
@feliperodriguez4187
@feliperodriguez4187 6 ай бұрын
Great info.❤
@amc8358
@amc8358 2 ай бұрын
As a believer and follower of Christ can you please elaborate further on this or share sources to further understand. Thank you! Love this channel!
@veronicacordero9829
@veronicacordero9829 6 ай бұрын
Wow.......prayers for Israel
@warneachothereverydayheb.3406
@warneachothereverydayheb.3406 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Mind blowing! Thank you!
@chuckporritt6958
@chuckporritt6958 6 ай бұрын
What a valuable discussion on Jesus as Israel's 'Joseph'; whom some Israelites betrayed into the hands of the Roman Gentiles; and Who is now seated at the right hand of the great 'Pharaoh of the Universe', working to move His Jewish brethren to repentance. Dr. Mitchell's comments about Jewish discussions of a 'Messiah ben Joseph' during the inter-testamental period makes perfect sense, given that Daniel had left a prophecy of Messiah the Prince being put to death in Daniel 9:26, and then living again (in verse 27) in order to 1) confirm the Abrahamic Covenant, 2) bring an end to the old Mosaic Covenant (with its animal sacrifices and offerings), and 3) cast Satan (a winged abomination) down from heaven to earth in fulfillment of Isaiah 14:12-15 (and Ezekiel 28:16-18, John 12:31-32, 16:8-11, Colossians 2:14-15, Revelation 12:7-9). Thank you so much for explaining Deuteronomy 33:17; a sacrificial ox followed by an omnipotent Ox. These oxen correspond perfectly with Daniel 9:26-27. I know that Dispensational brethren see Daniel 9:27 otherwise, but they need to wake up to the fact that Jesus' Olivet Discourse puts the 'abomination of desolation' in 70 AD, and that John's Little Book (Rev 10-13) completes the picture of the 70th Week. God bless you OFI for your invited scholar, and for your own scholarship. A spiritual banquet indeed.
@m.p8917
@m.p8917 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Why isn't this shouted from the rooftops in Israel! Taught and declared. I long to see the day when this is as clear as day for every Jew and Gentile!
@jeonbjock1376
@jeonbjock1376 6 ай бұрын
Wait till you watch episodes #2 & #3
@user-pe1br3oh2v
@user-pe1br3oh2v 6 ай бұрын
This gives me much food for thought and study. I have tried to rectify the blessings of the twelve tribes in Genesis 49 with the end-time prophecy in Ezekiel 48, namely for the disbursement of the inheritance, for at least the last 2 decades. Joseph doesn't cease to exist just because Jacob adopts Ephraim and Manasseh, I currently believe him to be the Prince spoken of in Ezekiel 48:21. For the longest time I thought the Prince was Yeshua, but how can that be? Yeshua is God and sits on the throne in the Temple. I know I don't need to know all of this for salvation, but it is interesting non the less. I am merely a female Bible-believing Christian who relies on the Holy Spirit to explain scripture and the Spirit has told me that Joseph is special. I will continue to seek the Holy Spirit. Thank you all for this study! God Bless!
@brighthought11
@brighthought11 6 ай бұрын
Yeshua is not Elohim, He says so himself many times. The Father and the Son are not the same being, its impossible. Why would he call out to himself, how could he bring himself back to life, why would he say he is not good, none is good, only the Father, why would he say, I cant do anything on my own, only what my Father orders. Only the Father knows when the son returns.. please get out of paganism, there is no trinity, SHEMA YISRAEL ADONAI ECHAD
@user-pe1br3oh2v
@user-pe1br3oh2v 6 ай бұрын
@@brighthought11 Shalom! John 12:45, John 14:6-10. If you don't mind, I will believe Yeshua. He came from the Father who is Spirit to earth and had to take on flesh for our sakes. After death he ascended again to the Father, shedding the flesh of man. The Father and the Son are one, Yeshua reiterates this many times in scripture. God Bless!
@brighthought11
@brighthought11 6 ай бұрын
@@user-pe1br3oh2v you lack understanding because you don't read Hebrew, scripture is not up for private interpretation. one echad, means one in mind, unison on every topic, they are one because they are in agreement, they are Father and Son for our human minds to grasp, none of those verses you listed in anyway refute what I said and they certainly don't point to the Father YHWH and Yeshua being the same being. its absolutely impossible Mark 10:18 - And Yeshua said unto him, “Why callest thou Me good? There is none good but One, that is, God. John 5:30 - I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. Matthew 24:36 - But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only. Luke 22:42 - saying, “Father, if Thou be willing, remove this cup from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Thine be done Deuteronomy 6:4 - 4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. (not polytheism) flee from paganism and polytheism
@user-pe1br3oh2v
@user-pe1br3oh2v 6 ай бұрын
@@brighthought11 There is also a 3rd testimony from Saul of Tarsus (aka The apostle Paul) in Hebrews 1:1-4.
@brighthought11
@brighthought11 6 ай бұрын
@@user-pe1br3oh2v that verse again proves nothing about the Father and Son being the same being, it points out the opposite and you have yet to comment on any of the plain as day verses I have sent your way, because there is no other way around them. have a good day, Shalom.
@WisdomCalls
@WisdomCalls 6 ай бұрын
This also makes more sense of Genesis 37 and 38, the intertwining of the stories of Joseph and the story of Judah and Perez. The two stories go hand and hand. The fact that Moses interrupts the story of Joseph with the story of Judah is significant, but even more significant is where the story is interrupted, after Joseph was betrayed and treated as dead by his brothers. After that, Judah’s story with Perez “breaks through”. Moses could have put the story of Judah first, but the Messiah Ben Joseph comes before Messiah Ben David. Wow. The stories are linked and intertwined because they point to the fulfillment in the one person of Yeshua.
@hansarildtangeraas237
@hansarildtangeraas237 4 ай бұрын
Wow, that's a big load to digest. Love it.
@luzcrespo7189
@luzcrespo7189 6 ай бұрын
There is nothing hide in between the heavens and the earth. Everything will be known jajajaja Baruch HaShem
@darrenpick8919
@darrenpick8919 6 ай бұрын
Zachariah 10.6:7 the redemption of God,s people And I will strengthen the house of Judah , and I will save the house of Joseph, and I will bring them again to place them for I have mercy upon them and they shall be as though I had not cast them off : for I am the Lord their God and will hear 👂 them . And they of Ephraim shall be like a mighty man, their heart ❤️ shall rejoice as through wine : yea , Their children shall see it and be glad 😃 their heart ♥️ shall rejoice in the Lord 🙏🏼❤️🔥XO
@michaelortega8191
@michaelortega8191 6 ай бұрын
God bless you all SHALOM
@michaelsullivan6868
@michaelsullivan6868 3 ай бұрын
I found it interesting that Rabbis debated over what is slain in Zech. 12: 1). The Messiah or 2). The “evil inclination.” In Isa. 53:9 Messiah undergoes TWO “deaths.” Christ upon the cross dies a 1). substitutionary spiritual death of separation from the Father [as Adam died the day he sinned] and of course 2). dies physically. In Rms. 6 - Jesus dies once to THE Sin [of Adam] - this would be the “death to the evil inclination.” The point of Paul here is the believers spiritual death and resurrection “in Christ” to “THE Sin” and “THE Death” [spiritual] that came through Adam - of which Christ conquers. They would mourn for Christ in Isa. 53 because He is taking on our “iniquities” - THE Sin of Adam upon Himself and thus bearing that curse so that the “many” can have His righteousness or walk in the newness of eternal life.
@beatetablet8058
@beatetablet8058 6 ай бұрын
Wow, I hope that this truth can reach out to many hearts, specially to our jewish sisters and brothers. There is only one truth, who claims, HE is the way , the truth and the life.This truth has an name : Jeschuah, Jesus. OH COME LET US ADORE HIM.....
@moragmoir7367
@moragmoir7367 Ай бұрын
Great teaching thank you - may you know the Lord's blessing.
@JoanoftheArk300
@JoanoftheArk300 6 ай бұрын
Ok 👌🏻 at 30:30 God whispered … “Pride” and I thought 💭 “If my people, who are called ☎️ by My Name…” 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt 6 ай бұрын
@joanofthearc300. Please explain more what you are saying? 😊
@divineriffs
@divineriffs Ай бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful and in-depth explanation of Mashiach Ben Yosef ❤️
@divineriffs
@divineriffs Ай бұрын
Rabbi Tovia Singer said that Zekharyah ch12 verse 10 is talking about Mashiach Ben Yosef.
@Yesunimwokozi1
@Yesunimwokozi1 3 ай бұрын
This is awesome ,eye opener
@TGC1023
@TGC1023 6 ай бұрын
This brother is absolutely correct, Book of Psalms, “from beginning to end, they trace a narrative of the coming Redemption.” The Book of Psalms, the entire book is teaching the Greater Exodus of all the house of Jacob, the Kingdom of God. That’s what I try to convey to brothers and sisters. Great video brothers. Keep up the great work for our great God, God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob.
@ulrikemanke6616
@ulrikemanke6616 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Brilliant.
@ChristianDThompson
@ChristianDThompson 6 ай бұрын
Which Joesph is he in Luke 3? Fascinating, I love it! Although I am deeply saddened by rabbis deliberately hiding this.
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt
@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt 6 ай бұрын
Yes, who is He? For such a huge biblical figure this Ben J son.. he cannot be named in history. That is not right.
@brit8802
@brit8802 3 ай бұрын
Joseph Smith
@shoponadimellc3413
@shoponadimellc3413 2 ай бұрын
@@CatholicSaintslayIncorrupt Look lady or man whoever haven’t u seen all these comments enough to know you’re confusing a lot of stuff????? There is no replacing messiah or another one either they are literally talking about it being Jesus the only messiah that fulfilled this prophecy of Moses about the messiah Ben Yosef which is Jesus! Pay attention in class!
@rmartz2740
@rmartz2740 5 ай бұрын
Gracias one for Israel ministry por dejar en claro que esa enseñanza es heretica, y contra las Sagradas Escrituras
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