it's not the same people and we should stop see kpop fans as a monolith. it's mostly international fans who want more grown idols in kpop, meanwhile it is mostly k netz who are hating on BoA

​@@universe986imagine trying to speak sense to kpopies. I can tell ure new to kpop 🙄

@@universe986 nope. k-pop fans in general almost entirely agree that minors should not debut in the k-pop industry, and overwhelmingly so to the point where alot of people have started actively referring to all idols who aren't minors as "grown women" despite majority of idols mentioned being in their early or mid 20's. i even had the pleasure actually of reading through the hate comments she received on both instagram and tiktok for weeks! :) i've actually been around for all her comebacks since 2010 and i could not tell you a single time there was a BoA hate train of this level until k-pop obsessed netizens all across the globe decided to call her a flop everywhere. i have gone through the accounts that post the comments, and guess what? they ALL act like they want "grown women" concepts, or groups with only "grown women". so before you go around regurgitating things that someone else said about generalizing k-pop fans as a whole. you can disagree, but it doesn't make my point less valid.

@@urhypeboy please grow up.

​@@urhypeboymay as well be talking to a wall. At least the wall has better sense than k-netijerks 🙄. Could you imagine people saying Madonna or Cher being too "Old" to perform. I mean heck the Rolling Stones as a whole are older than my Great Grandparents and they STILL are selling out stadiums. The K companies need to fight back against this nonsense and protect their performers.

She looks in her 20s. Why would anyone hate on her?

Exactly

It should be obvious why. K-netz are jealous and petty. Her fans support her, but anti's are a bunch of ugly jealous women, inside and out.

exactly! in my country, the most and successful and loved by the public singers are over 40

Very that!

Yassss....like what??

No one cares

@@urhypeboy very mature of you little one, but I guess you don’t know your classics, have fun with Newjeans they are good too

STRAY KIDS IS TRUE KINGS LEGENDARY OF KPOP

Yea , love RAMI❤

Wait rami too??

@@maarshiexcryxx yes, in their behind the scenes dance practice video for Sheesh, it’s revealed that she also suffered from pneumothorax, similarly to Winter.

@@maarshiexcryxx yesss 😭 hope they both get cured

@@ArdenAdams2125 damn , that name is so tough , do u pronounce it well?!? Lol , it's hard pneumothorasc !

EXACTLY

I wish they stopped debuting minors and let them have a childhood instead of throwing them in the spotlight so early on

The difference is between fans. International fans don't want minors, but koreans have no problem with it at all, when there were very little international fans back then boa debut, fans had no problem with 13 year old. K fans have problems if the idol is too old meanwhile i fans love old idols, like kiof debuted and was appreciated because the youngest member is 18 and oldest 24

Yeah like what you know about popping bottles? Your 13 lol

Its just the korean netizen they are blind by korean beauty standards so they can't see talented idols

Thank you so much!!!!!

@@Itsjust_Ani ofc

@@kpop.luvx.143 🤍

thanks a lot your a time saver

@@NswerfromMixxtopia-ei4pd npp :)

Bc people think they are to hate on others to protect their fav when they can simply appreciate the diversity of generations we still have now, I mean we have 1st gen idols with 5th gen ! It’s amazing!

Ikr they just wants to judge the vocals of HYBE groups which is very frustrating considering as fans we know how good their vocals are more than them.

@@jordenwilkers4334 It’s just an unnecessary hate train since mid-February and it’s really frustrating. Since ppl were getting on Lsfm they decided to go after every other group under Hybe and discredit them and it’s just giving miserable.

​@@jordenwilkers4334good vocals in hybe = just bts,svt,txt, enhypen and fromis9

If it was a girl group i don't think you would say this

If Yeoujn can handle criticism and accept that their vocals weren't up to par, and even said himself that he did bad, it says a lot about him as a good professional. He acknowledge it and it's fine they didn't do as well, but you guys don't need to baby TxT when he said MOA are making excuses for them.

Y'all are merciless with other groups but when it comes to txt suddenly nobody is perfect 😂😂

​@@Everythingz127who is yall? They ripped lessarrifim and I'm like leave them alone too. Idols are less and less about singing people really need to get over this and move on. I understand this isnt 2014.

​@@Everythingz127 this is because till this moment txt had only good vocal performances. And we all know hybe is not good when it comes to teaching singing. Thats why people are less bashing, its first time and there is a valid reason

@@Everythingz127 Stop generalizing everyone and just bc immature fans bash other groups you think TXT should get bashed too? What sense would that make to encourage more stupidity??

They ARE singers. It is literally their job to sing. If they don't feel up to the par, they can take a break. But giving a bad product is just taking their fans for granted. Even super super established artists, who have been in the industry since the whole of TXT was even born get criticized if they suck. Of course, apologizing is an overkill because u can't guarantee perfection all the time

Of course, one soloist dictates what the entire K-pop industry should look like 😂😂

​@@betxengi5388yes. Because without her, nobody would even be looking at your favs. SHE is the one who broke the glass ceiling and brought Kpop out of the country for the first time

Who tf is boa😂 never heard that name. If u said psy i can at least pretend that i knew him (bcuz i heard his song on radio years back but didn't know he was korean, or his name, kpop etc & the song was vibey but just for few days not enough to get interested to delve more) I found kpop in 2019-2020 like majority others. & We all know why.

Umm...are u high rn?😂

Sorry but the majority people in my country knows k-pop because of BTS

Yes!! Love her

She is SUPER-DUPER STRONG ✅

of course she has the most IG follower among all kpop idols.

eh... RCA is known for sh1tty contracts. I hope she had a good lawyer involved during contract negotiations.

Wait she died? I thought it was Park Bo-Ram

Nah bro you mixed everything boa didn't die its park boram

@@pommegyu oh ...your right.lemme edit my comment..thx

@@Itsjust_Ani I wrote the wrong name by accident

@@preciouslyunhinged oh ok

So true

this is true, they always put a negative angle on babymonster news. they are a hybe/illit fan and are anti at anything YG.

yup its is . since the beginning of baemon, this channel always had something to say..

This channel is a YG hater they will make issue to make YG and YG talents look bad

feel? You mean 'think'.

Not just baemon, honestly... they are a yg anti

People acting like this is their second album. Is it that deep? 2 prereleases are part of the first album.

She sure is Lisa is phenomenal

So true unnecessary drama is being created just because the top kpop groups are on break and they can't have satisfaction of seeing bts is in military, blackpink preparing for solo comebacks so they are trying to drag older idols now.

The same thing happened to blackpink they travelled to 24 countries in each country 3 days 3 concerts were been held in some blackpink concerts members were seen exhausted but were badly bashed for performing sloppily

@@swatiarmy2677 yes and it's normal that that happend yk it's pissing me the fuck of that Idols are getting badhed for literally breathing 🤦🏻‍♀️ but I don't get how one could think like that yk like what on earth is wrong eith your head that you'll think like that 😭

@@zoepc same girl and on top of that instead of focusing on the actual reason as to why was the scenario is being looking like that and is it actually idols fault or not they will just look at 4 secs clip and the idols will be judge as if they have commited an actual crime.

@@swatiarmy2677 THANK YOU really ! It's one of the things that make it real hard to enjoy kpop especially if you're fav groups are ALWAYS the target. Like itma exhausting to defend them because if you argument with logic you'll always get a brainless answer back. I just hope it'll get better one day

EXCUSES! 😂

Always they are very talented

​@nowLick honey kpop singers are branding singing is just icing. These kpop singers are using more and more lip synching and back tracks than ever. Half of kpop can barely be defined as Tru singers

@@Theinfamouskiki411 i dont know who's side your in, im just saying that txt can sing properly

​@@nowLickyou can't even come up with them

Seo Taiji and the boys: 🤨

It's not like it's not doing well. It just not get promoted cause YG already said after that debut MV release that BM will not get promoted, will not attend to any variety show or music show, live stages and many more. They went hiatus for a while until all the 7 members are united. When it's not promoted, there's no voting and no win. If only Batter up are heavily promoted broo, they doing very very well ngl.

yeah not even surprised....they never update good things about babymonster even the thumbnail is very obvious😅

The fact that she said the release are not doing well and still believing that daisuke website which have no official confirmation about the website if the data is valid or not. The most funny thing is how come the website know the YT views data? Cause YT data on YT know it.😂

Trueeee. Babymonsters are viral almost every day. They are even trending in sk cuz of their performances.

@@s-hr-impxai2339 agree

stable vocals where? I only see prerecorded sh!t. They are talentless, all success they got is because of YG payola.

Agree. Like, theoreticaly baemon had two debuts

this channel chose a comment from an illit fan 💀just be saying anything without fact checking

this channel just hate YG artists even the thumbnail is very obvious😂

When Red Velvet debuted as ot4 and later as ot5, SM did not change the debut date because of only one member. YG is simply scheming to benefit the group as much as possible and to play as the one who debuted another hit group that is supposed to be the most popular from the very beginning. That's what this survival show was for, even though it was obvious that it wouldn't eliminate anyone. He had it all planned, he's just building hype around them. First he pretended that he wouldn't debut someone, then he pretended that he was giving them a debut, then he changed his mind and called the new song their debut. Instead of giving them the scandal, he builds it himself. He always did it.

BM breaking many records since debut. But this channel only point out the negative thing about it. I think you know what that mean right?😊

@@10kChallengesIt happanned to BP too, they really hates YGE artists

She speaks the facts. You’re probably just used to see your fandom shield BABYMONSTER from any kind of truth and criticism. Wake up kiddo

@@dustylee21 But why didn't she spread the positivity about BM records that has been break ever since debut not to mention the pre debut era too. The talent. And future hold of BM as kpop artist internationally. But with just the single debut drama? Even since BM debuted, they breaking records but all the news about BM in this channel negativity. It's not about the fandom shield BM, it obviously this channel trying to drag YG artists down cause of the power they have. Not to mention this channel favourite company which their can artist can even sing live even standing still. Still she speak nicely about them.

And they will improve even more once Belift announce details for their webtoon lore. I have been waiting for this since Hybe was planning a girl group with a Sailor Moon inspired magical girl concept in 2021. BTS, TXT and Enhypen got better with their first comeback. Debut is always weak because of songs picked by Bang PD. Magnetic didn't fit Moka and Iroha, their voices got overshadowed by this style.

​@@hbrantTXT's performances during their debut were good and they sang most of the time live. It was worse during the encores because they were nervous. The same thing happened to ENHYPEN. The first encore is always the hardest

@@betxengi5388 This is why nobody should put down every group under Hybe or a debut group because Lesserafim and Source Music are making a bad name for Hybe labels and other groups. TXT can sing well, don't be jealous Knetizens of YG or SM on Hybe groups success. I understand Lesserafim but not the Hybe labels.

But the audience doesn't accept it

The quote "BM is the next BP" are not working to ruined BM image and reputation. Since BM reputation keep rising and not affected so they try something else to ruined it. We as a fan, we need to get use to this drama.😂

Babymonster aint facing anything this account is just anti BABYMONSTER

@@dhrubojyotiroychowdhury4937 fr this is what i am noticing, i just unsuscribed bc this bitch really has something against babymonster

@@dhrubojyotiroychowdhury4937 Bro you literally can’t promote something as a debut song and win award for it and then claim it’s not a debut song, like just literally unethical and blatantly false, in addition there are a lot of ad views on their channel, they have talent but yg isn’t doing right by them

@@Hayman1257 wait lemme clear you step by step

@@Hayman1257 YG never denied batter up that it was a fake debut YG stated that this is their debut ALBUM

That line is cute

Look this channel seems to slightly have a hate towards the group so nothing new they are using YG and YG artist cuz that's get a lot of views.

I'm tired of this channel seriously. Why have that thumbnail? What did Ahyeon do to you? I'm fckin reporting this channel till it gets removed from KZfaq forever. I suggest everyone does too. It keeps using YG artists for views and engagement yet it can't even show a grain of respect.

this channel does anything to bait people into watching their vids, im not even surprised

Fr

Lol my comment got deleted. I think because I said the r-word. By r-word I mean r.e.p. o. r. t. I'd like to repeat what I said: I'll never stop r.e.p. o. r. t.ing this channel and it's videos until it's gone off the face of KZfaq, and I suggest everyone does too.

Baemon's Rami also has pneumothorax, and she's somehow still being pushed to work... It's terrible for them both : /

@@Airia16 yuh

BoA doesn't have near the #1s that Mariah has + Mariah is famous everywhere and can sell out a worldwide stadium tour. BoA can't. She never made it big in the US meanwhile, Mariah made it huge in Japan and elsewhere.

Exactly. People hate BM, so this channel. I'm not even surprise tho. Keep support BM. They even breaking their own views records. So let's just support the girls and forget all of this drama.

Bro....😂 So what about KZfaq record? They are not youtuber.....😂😂😂 ITS means nothing dude......

@@celuper lol. The number of views means that what this channel is saying about "Batter Up DIDN'T do good" is FULL OF CRAP. Hope your mind can wrap around it.

YG Paid the Way🤭🤭🤭

@@yotinin23 If i dont like a group, I don't waste my time looking for any yt content about them. These haters are funny af. Its either there's something wrong with their heads or they are just yg stans deep inside.lol

you'd think they'd be embarrassed enough when American news articles dragged knets for getting mad at Karina for dating

then they could have waited for ahyeon to recover or they could have called batter up as pre release and more importantly shoulnd't have wont he rookie of the yeat award for the batter up. Facts in the face. It's a cop out.

@JustGotALife If YG had waited for Ahyeon, you all would have bashed them for not debuting them. The pressure from netizens was overwhelming back then. Just admit you hate all things YG and move on.

@@Nikilovesgirls we wouldn't have bashed them first of all. Jt would baby monster Fandom who might have bashed them. So it's bit our fault that a Fandom is toxic even before a debut lol. And all they had to do was call batter up as prerelease and not promote it debut lol everything would have been fine.

Frr

aw get well soon winter :(((((

Beyonce's in her early 40s.

You can not win a rookie award with a pre realease. If you believe that sheesh is a debut then yg should return that award immediately

right! preach this channel can't accept the fact that baby monster debut is sheesh, i didn't even see a video that babymonster accepted that award or some acceptance speech.

I mean by definition batter up is the debut, just because an artist didn't go promoting it everywhere doesn't mean the song doesn't count. I swear if any other group like new jeans had done the same y'all would've called hybe desperate.

Lol y’all are funny..if only if it was other group instead of bm y’all would ate that group up 😂😂

@@Everythingz127 By all means, please, send a protest truck or email YG. Those insignificant awards give nothing to BM. I'd rather them not winning Rookie Awards than "being indebt", by some Kpop fans, because of that award.

Islets views are mostly ads though.

Please illit still sounds terrible especially moka she sounds like a goat trying to sing . .hybe should not have debuted her ....they are known for their weak idols ..just pretty face with zero skills

I agree

then they could have waited for ahyeon to recover or they could have called batter up as pre release and more importantly shoulnd't have wont he rookie of the yeat award for the batter up. Facts in the face. It's a cop out.

Lol nope. They teased, Batter up as the DEBUT. Those tweets are still there. It's their debut not what they recently released

Yeah no their debut is batter up. Just because it didn't do as well as sheesh doesn't mean they can just scrap it. Also they released another song between batter up and sheesh.

Not many idols these days are true singers. TXT are talented and young. I dont care if none of them can barely sing. But I know they can, I saw them in concert last year and they were on fire! So yes, they are a powerhouse of talent

This is all just lame excuses. Do you really think if you see them on tour they're singing live when they can't handle a back to back schedule? What do you think a real tour is? HELLOOO it's a back-to-back schedule. You either got it or you don't. TXT don't got it. 1or 2 members being tired Maybe, but ALL of them means they've been lip synching this whole time. I used to do musical theatre and I would have shows every night. I gave my best performance ALWAYS w/o fail even when I was sick unless I was too sick to perform w/pneumonia. I always did my solos, full on dancing, and remembered all my lines. These kpoppy babies have no excuse.