Yildiz SPZ 410 Test and Review

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Жыл бұрын

We take a quick look at a Yildiz SPZ in 410 gauge.
This gun is £600! Obviously the alloy action has disadvantages long term, but how does it perform on the clays…
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@jamesfairmind2247
@jamesfairmind2247 Жыл бұрын
I persuaded a mate and couple of female friends who wanted to get into shooting to buy the 20 bore version of this 3 years ago when they were £450. They all three really love them and shoot excellently with them. The 30 inch version in 20 bore is effectively an "assisted opener" because it opens itself and ejects easily just by moving the lever across so very fast to reload in the field. Ultra light too so they make a great second everyday working gun around the farm without having to worry about scratching an expensive gun. These little guns cannot be beaten at the price.
@jimandmarypowell9783
@jimandmarypowell9783 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Rizzini .410 about seven years ago. I love it. It's effective within the limitations of the bore, about 25 yards, possibly 30 yards. It's my rabbit gun and I shoot as soon as I safely can. Use small shot and an open choke. You will have pattern density. Even No 8 shot has enough energy to penetrate and kill cleanly.
@gnarshread
@gnarshread Жыл бұрын
It's great to see a good old fashioned gun review. It feels like its been a while.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Felt good to do one!
@andrewbayram765
@andrewbayram765 Жыл бұрын
My wife has one(Yildiz) 410 and the 20. She prefers the.410 because of a shoulder problem but we all end up shooting it. Good bit of fun but we have had a couple of quite derogatory comments. However it has become apparent that people who know shooting are quite complimentary when you hit stuff with it because they just know what it is and what you can use it for.
@SavageShooters
@SavageShooters Жыл бұрын
First, let me just say I greatly enjoy your videos as here in the U.S. it's not always easy to find good detailed information on fine double shotguns made in Europe and the U.K. As of today I officially own my first "best gun," a Grulla Armas 216 with a matched set of 26" barrels in 28 gauge and .410 bore made in 1996. Went to the gun shop planning to buy a nice Winchester 23 Golden Quail in 28 gauge, but when I saw the Grulla I fell in love. The fact that it came with the second barrel, the original box and a leather case was just an added bonus. Set me back a fair amount, but worth every penny!
@kweeks10045
@kweeks10045 Жыл бұрын
My first shotgun was a .410, followed closely behind by a 20 gauge. For upland birds, I really like the 28 gauge. One thing is for sure, a person will quickly come to realize that they are either a "shotgunner" or not when they use a .410 or even 28ga. Great video!
@mallardcutter7209
@mallardcutter7209 Жыл бұрын
The 410 is my favorite gun of all. It’s almost an addiction to shoot it !
@jarradbaker8200
@jarradbaker8200 Жыл бұрын
Pfffttt only a sook who cant handle recoil shoots a 410 there literally useless
@jasonhall8202
@jasonhall8202 Жыл бұрын
I have a kofs 410. Left hand cast, 3” chambered, 30” barrels. I love it! Favour it more than my 12’s!
@LoneMechanic
@LoneMechanic Жыл бұрын
I have a Beretta Silver Pigeon in .410 and love it. It's a great gun to have fun shooting clays
@stuarthawkes1382
@stuarthawkes1382 Жыл бұрын
Haha, I might have had too much caffeine 😆 My fifth shoot yesterday and was speaking to a fellow gun that I've struck a friendship with. 'That's not your EELL?' 'No, it's a yildiz .410 (sbs) I've seen you shoot your Yeoman this season and see the fun you have with it so I've just bought this'. He loves it.
@stevekunde123
@stevekunde123 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been shooting a Franchi Instinct L in .410 for all of 2022 for sporting clays as well as waterfowl. Couldn’t be happier. I have had more fun this year than I have in a long long time.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
What loads are you using on waterfowl?
@stevekunde123
@stevekunde123 Жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors 9/16oz copper coated bismuth 6-shot at 1350fps
@iainkillion262
@iainkillion262 Жыл бұрын
I have a Yildiz 20gauge side by side, I absolutely love it
@mitchwoods5070
@mitchwoods5070 Жыл бұрын
Nice. I picked up a Rizzini BR110 28g 30” sporter… magnificent gun! You should DEFINITELY do something with this gun. I think you will love it!
@thecastbulletkid
@thecastbulletkid Жыл бұрын
Earlier in the year I bought a 2nd hand Rem 870 pump gun in.410 and adore it. I shoot maiinly 2 1/2 inch hulls with 9 shot and it's just a heap of fun. So nice to shoot.
@brettbaker5599
@brettbaker5599 Жыл бұрын
I'm seriously considering a Mossberg .410
@kurtricketts1618
@kurtricketts1618 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got one but the non ejector, great little gun and takes up the slot in my cabinet nicely and the wood is almost as nice as an old DT 11 I once had 😂
@Scooter-dm3qo
@Scooter-dm3qo Жыл бұрын
You should ask your Beretta rep to get you a 687 Silver Pigeon III Sporting in a 410/28 2 barrel set. This set will come with 30 inch barrels and possibly a EELL wood upgrade so they do run a bit heavy, about 6 1/2 lbs. What you will find is a gun with a comb height equal to a Browning 525 Sporting and a wonderfully stable small bore that shoots much like a 20 or 12 gauge. It really is amazing what an additional 2, or 4 inches of barrel length will do. I'll also tell you that a 100 round session with the 28 gauge barrels mounted will have you wonder why anyone bothers with all that mass for ammo and gun when shooting a 12 gauge. Quite simply the 28 can do anything the 12 can do and 100 rounds of 28 gauge is much easier to carry. Yes, I do have one of these sets and 70% of my Skeet practice is done with the 410, it's less cost to home load, it's a great tool for developing precision and just plain fun to shoot.
@jamescihak6084
@jamescihak6084 Жыл бұрын
From America this is hilarious to me shell length in imperial and shot weight in metric. Your videos are fun to watch.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
The U.K. is a funny place for mixing. It’s because we are officially metric BUT still measure people height in feet and distance in miles
@JHruby
@JHruby Жыл бұрын
Turkish guns have come of age. Many of you will be too young to remember, but once upon a time, a "Japanese car" was a synonym for poor quality and reliability. That changed very quickly and so too with Turkish guns. As you rightly say, Johnny, the Yildiz is a gun to buy because you want to shoot it. My son's both shoot Turkish trap (ATA trap) guns and even at the rate of hundreds of rounds per month, they won't be wearing them out anytime soon. A .410 shooter would be hard pressed to wear one out in 4 lifetimes.
@julianandrefredriksen5848
@julianandrefredriksen5848 9 ай бұрын
I had 2 turkish shotguns. One in 12/89 and one in .410. They required TONS of cleaning. So i threw em away. The firing pin had to be replaced every month or so. (About every 1000 shot) became crazy
@2bitmarketanarchist337
@2bitmarketanarchist337 6 ай бұрын
89? And you tossed them? I'm sure someone would've bought them
@martinhambleton5076
@martinhambleton5076 Жыл бұрын
Hi jonny, I shoot both 4/10 and 28 bore regularly. Moving from 12 bore to 4/10 for instance. You have to make a conscious decision to relax your grip and don't over accelerate your gun movement. Which in a lot of cases people hang on to it, as if their life depends on it, being way to stiff, swinging through the target and into the next county. Game shooting with a 4/10 can be very rewarding. My son and myself shot a few rounds of, Ball Trap with 4/10s, shooting 16/25 and 19/25 respectively. I generally shoot three quarters and full at everything.
@mvec646
@mvec646 Жыл бұрын
All my duck and goose hunting is done with a 410 and TSS. Fun guns , please do more 410 videos !!!!
@efaciler2462
@efaciler2462 Жыл бұрын
How many ducks are you injuring with that 410
@james19818
@james19818 Жыл бұрын
I have a yildiz in 28 and 410 in my cabinet along with plenty of 12bores and I reach for those two when I want to enjoy my shooting
@markbainbridge2859
@markbainbridge2859 Жыл бұрын
😁👍🏻 just happen to be reloading 3” .410 when the video came out
@rogergoode7771
@rogergoode7771 Жыл бұрын
There's a lot of snobbery around guns . I bought the exact gun you have demonstrated. People laughed until they had a go of it. For the money there is no better gun the finish etc the wood is comparable with a lot of grade 3 guns . Koffs are also very good however they struggle to cycle the magnum cartridges .Cartridge choice is paramount if you just want a bit of fun most cartridges will suffice . However buy the magnums 1400fps and people don't laugh when they see you hitting targets that they miss with a 12 . I traded up to a Ceasuer Gurrinni 410 to enter specific competitions . A different 410 expirience entirely. 32 inch barrels and also heavier . Amazing
@jimmarcham6271
@jimmarcham6271 Жыл бұрын
20 minutes ago I didn't even know I wanted one .. . When the wife asks, I'm blaming you Johnny 🤣
@Retired-Tom
@Retired-Tom Жыл бұрын
I bought the equivalent KOFs, (£420 new) real good fun and the auto safety takes about 8 mins to remove
@perrypappous7617
@perrypappous7617 2 ай бұрын
Jonny, Excellent and balanced review. A friend of mine bought several shotguns from Yildiz. The trigger is the Achilles heel of this gun. Too heavy and gritty. But, yes, Yildiz guns are a good value for money. Perry P., Southern California, USA
@hammyh1165
@hammyh1165 Жыл бұрын
Love a play with a .410 . I was looking for one but ended up with a 20bore from Holt's , maybe next time .
@chrisshore5364
@chrisshore5364 Жыл бұрын
I have the same gun and it is a brilliant gun for a fun day out through the woods. You can carry 25 cartridges in your pocket without even knowing they are there!
@tombishop638
@tombishop638 Жыл бұрын
The syndicate I’m in has a .410 day first day of the season so I bought one of these. With the 18 gram cartridges you’re really at no disadvantage!
@grantstitt9515
@grantstitt9515 Жыл бұрын
I know . They are so cool. I need glasses now too. Lol. From Texas
@zigmogcreator
@zigmogcreator 7 ай бұрын
They also make a 410 side by side of which i own one. I recently took it along with my Winchester MOD 42 for an exclusive 410 only shoot. When i wasn't using the Yildiz there was always another shooter trying it out. Everyone loved the little gun and not once did anyone say it was a cheap gun. Everyone shot well with it and the walnut stock is way too nice for a gun priced this cheap.
@tryhard5319
@tryhard5319 Жыл бұрын
Just got that gun a month ago! Glad you reviewed it. What chokes are you using for those longer shots? Great content like always❤
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Seemed to break well in IC or Full
@YakMotley
@YakMotley 9 ай бұрын
I just want it for a squirrel gun in 20 ga. Its got a warranty and all the chokes. Seems like a pretty good deal.
@bentleyfatheree1616
@bentleyfatheree1616 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always..... Another option would be Brileys 410 tubes. I'm not a fan of Yildez
@royjennison3916
@royjennison3916 Жыл бұрын
I am not a gun snob , but i love it , just looks so much fun
@DFox-ud3gx
@DFox-ud3gx Жыл бұрын
I have one friend who shoots a 410 he has a shoulder injury and he nocks the hell out of clay's with this lovely little bore . Good day Johnny
@leifnelson6705
@leifnelson6705 Жыл бұрын
My 9 year old shoots that youth version at the start of the video with 7g & 11g cartridges. He can hit 20yd crossers and 25-30yd driven clays all day. After nearly 800 rounds this year it’s in great shape and no sign of wear.
@teamflanneloutdoors5631
@teamflanneloutdoors5631 Жыл бұрын
I recently bought the 20ga. 24" barrel version , unfortunately it had a barrel regulation issue and is off to Briley's for hopefully a barrel replacement. I do not hold that against Yildiz though, and my next purchase will likely be the 28ga. version. You wouldn't believe the beauty of the fiddleback wood stock on this $500 O/U, I stopped at a large sporting goods chain on the way home from my purchase that had Brownings & Berettas in a glass case priced 6X as much- no comparison.
@nevillewalker6299
@nevillewalker6299 Жыл бұрын
I have two in 410 and they work perfectly if I do my job.
@mallardcutter7209
@mallardcutter7209 Жыл бұрын
Oh and let’s have a review on the Fausti DEA side by side 410 if you get a chance please. Thanks!
@frankwass5511
@frankwass5511 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video, nice to see someone give a fair review of a 410. I shot nothing but a 410 for 12 years and never felt at a disadvantage ,driven game ,pigeons ,clays all die the same if you have pattern. I found 7s the best.
@davedonnelly8039
@davedonnelly8039 Жыл бұрын
Just bought one as new for £399 - great fun with 19gm magnums !\
@worldgunownersassociation7299
@worldgunownersassociation7299 Жыл бұрын
I've developed a 21 gram 71/2 load that works a treat on the clays an a TSS no9 load that is awesomely effective for my 410
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Have you tried reloading steel 410? I bet those TSS are wicked
@worldgunownersassociation7299
@worldgunownersassociation7299 Жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors not tried steel loads yet, might do at some stage.
@mirzaadil6955
@mirzaadil6955 Жыл бұрын
Hello Dan, how are you? Great review of a very good Turkish shotgun. By the way, what is the brand of your sunglass?
@ddoherty5956
@ddoherty5956 Жыл бұрын
The difficulty of going from a 12 to a 410 is the distraction of knowing how much more the cartridges cost 🤣🤣🤣
@gregclark5344
@gregclark5344 Жыл бұрын
Yes it's a shame the costs of 410 cartridges , I'd love to use mine more often.
@Naters305ytg
@Naters305ytg Жыл бұрын
If you can even find 410 in the US these days. I haven’t seen 410 in a while.
@timeverett7828
@timeverett7828 Жыл бұрын
Value for money is what you gotta consider. Never been a fan of .410... Many believe, as I do, 28ga best choice for small gauge shotgun use.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
I would be inclined to agree, but a 410 is still a lot of fun
@timeverett7828
@timeverett7828 Жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors all depends on what you are looking for.
@Turbo-wj9qc
@Turbo-wj9qc Жыл бұрын
I was always told the 410 was unrealistic for sporting clays, LIES! I bought a set of browning 32" and haven't shot anything but the 410 in a couple years. It's just so much more fun it's worth the shell cost to me.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
It makes smashing into the easier targets a heap more fun. Time to convince Jim to lend me a .410 set of tubes for the Jonthorne
@tomski0007
@tomski0007 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted to scratch that 410 itch. If you learn to shoot a 410 well will it make me better with a 12. If so I'm defo in.
@mountaingoat2340
@mountaingoat2340 Жыл бұрын
Omg...was looking at .410s for a bit of nostalgic fun earlier today
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking you were after something a little classier than this?
@mountaingoat2340
@mountaingoat2340 Жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors I was looking at a 2nd hand Dickson :)
@bumblesquatt
@bumblesquatt Жыл бұрын
How do you find it shooting? A little high due to the shorter stock? I have a hushpower mossberg 500 and cannot find where the pattern goes due to the tiny child sized stock! I think I'm miles high on it!
@76CelticDragon
@76CelticDragon Жыл бұрын
I bought one for exactly this reason., they’re a great little fun gun, that I can’t hit squat with, but the smiles are worth it. Now thinking I need to learn to reload to keep it fed as the ammo cost for it is a little on the expensive side. In fact a video on reloading wouldn’t be a bad idea.
@j_rosenberg
@j_rosenberg Жыл бұрын
Wow £600 is steep for a Yildiz. The same gun in Australia costs about AU$900-950 which is about £100 cheaper. Recently the 410 and 12 gauge SPZ has been on sale at a gun shop near me for about AU$750 which is just over £400. Most of our prices are pretty steep in Australia but apparently not with the Yildiz
@duncanmcpherson2497
@duncanmcpherson2497 Жыл бұрын
Jonny, As most .410’s are now being made with steel proofed “fleur de lis” barrels, when are we going to see Hull Cartridge etc, coming out with Steel .410 cartridges? And I mean effective good quality ones at that!! Or are we just going to waste money buying a gun that we can’t shoot when the UK 🇬🇧 lead shot ban takes effect? Thanks D.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
.410 is going to be low on their priority list for sure, given the cost of developing new bio wads per calibre. They will come, just going to take time
@nicksamsunggalaxys2404
@nicksamsunggalaxys2404 Жыл бұрын
Used a friends on pigeons with a heavy crop in them of bean no more than 25yrds found them a bit inhumane to many follow up shots( be a better shot you might but everyone can pull one who ever you are!) Where as a 12 not a big problem if u pull it, might as well taken the stock off and blow peas through it that day is how i felt about it, low close partridge maybe but i wouldn't otherwise squirrels gun
@johnnunn8688
@johnnunn8688 Жыл бұрын
When I was about 12 yo, a couple of older boys had a .410 that they demonstrated to me; chopping down saplings. Of course, there was no licence involved 😬🤦‍♂️😉🙄.
@xaviermachuca8042
@xaviermachuca8042 9 ай бұрын
nice shotgun and very funny gauge
@borisfargo1290
@borisfargo1290 Жыл бұрын
Those glasses make you look like Bradley Cooper in War Dogs.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
❤️
@nukiepoo
@nukiepoo Жыл бұрын
If you’re going to fall in love with shooting a .410 (I love my Superposed .410 skeet), you’d better also fall in love with reloading (I love my PW 850+). BTW, an aluminum O/U is a POS no matter what name you put on it; only for the occasional shooter.
@stefankrammer7761
@stefankrammer7761 Жыл бұрын
Could you please make a Video about the „British hunting clothes“? It would be very interesting. By the way I am from Austria and watch your Videos for a few weeks, they are very good and interesting. All the best
@kennykendall8068
@kennykendall8068 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a used 410 SPZ ME , need to find extra chokes , any advise. Called Yildiz and they refered me to Briley who only has chokes for 12 and 20.
@GMec78
@GMec78 Жыл бұрын
There are some very famous outdoor writers from both sides of the pond that would say the .410 bore is for the range and for ground game but not for game birds.
@bristleconepinus2378
@bristleconepinus2378 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree w/ you. It's a great gun for Rabbits & feral cats but percentagewise it's a crippler on birds. I have done a lot of hunting upland, 35 years, every season, every day. For upland birds (Hawaii where I live) in heavy cover you just have to go w/ the 12. For heavy cover I had a Remington "Special Field" 12 and for more open hunting on ranchland I had a Ruger "Red Label" both in 12. They work very well on feral cats too by the way.
@johnnunn8688
@johnnunn8688 Жыл бұрын
@@bristleconepinus2378, 12 bore can ruin a cat? That’s incredible!
@jimwright4941
@jimwright4941 Жыл бұрын
tell that to carlo rizzini and the 410 club. he has no problem killing pheasents , qual and grouse with his 410. he also shoots box birds or live pigeon whith a 410
@GMec78
@GMec78 Жыл бұрын
@@jimwright4941 And I would counter with Michael Macintosh
@jimwright4941
@jimwright4941 Жыл бұрын
@@GMec78 watch some of carlo`s videos. the ones where he patterns all the 410 loads available. to bad mcintosh has passed away. he would enjoy carlo`s videos too
@vincentp9038
@vincentp9038 Жыл бұрын
.410 shells are difficult to find in the States currently
@garageworker
@garageworker Жыл бұрын
Came to say the same thing, no one has any .410 shells rights now.
@mattserraes8561
@mattserraes8561 Жыл бұрын
Shells are available, just not cheap.
@nwmacguy
@nwmacguy Жыл бұрын
Plenty available in the off season. Buying ahead is key. Bought a case of Win #6 steel Nov '21. Midway had it last Aug/Sept too.
@ryangardener242
@ryangardener242 Жыл бұрын
Great review, how about doing a sxs 410 review? Is there even one worth buying ?
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
There are plenty worth buying
@ddoherty5956
@ddoherty5956 Жыл бұрын
Aluminium & Steel the designer never owned a S3 Landy! 😳
@robpowell9162
@robpowell9162 Жыл бұрын
So now we have seen Jon’s favourite fidget spinner equivalent…. Loading and unloading carts 👌
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
We all know it’s the safety
@robpowell9162
@robpowell9162 Жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors click click click click click click click click click "pull". Gotta love a clicky nob?!
@jccarter286
@jccarter286 Жыл бұрын
Me “click click click” Sash *has brain haemorrhage*
@robpowell9162
@robpowell9162 Жыл бұрын
@@jccarter286 at least you don’t spend much time together! Ohh, wait…. 😂 Keep safe JC, let’s hope you don’t ever get a gun without a safety or barrel selector!
@arnoldfoote1925
@arnoldfoote1925 Жыл бұрын
Hi from Canada, I work in a Large sporting goods Store, Nice little 410 shotgun. But here in Canada there's No Ammo for the 410 Sporting loads or Hunting loads. I have family all across the country and they all say the the same. No 410 Shotshells. so not much of a market for any 410s right now. So sad though grew up shooting one.☹
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
That is a shame. Is there any Canadian shotgun ammo manufacturers?
@arnoldfoote1925
@arnoldfoote1925 Жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors NO and our Liberal Government isn't friendly to any kind of sporting sports, so I don't see any ammo company ever setting up shop here in this Country. ☹
@nickolaskunz5735
@nickolaskunz5735 Жыл бұрын
Try finding shells in Canada these days. 410 is a beautiful gauge but it’s a pain to buy the shells
@ApurtureSci
@ApurtureSci Жыл бұрын
Do you have any domestic producers? Luckily in the UK we have a number of local manufacturers that cater for us, that's only shotgun cartridges and .22 rimfire though, all other rifle ammo is imported.
@Naters305ytg
@Naters305ytg Жыл бұрын
Same in the US these days. 410 is just impossible to find. If you do find some the cost is insane.
@mikeproctor3664
@mikeproctor3664 Жыл бұрын
410's are fun
@simonharrison6840
@simonharrison6840 Жыл бұрын
Bought a s/h baikal 410 best fun i have had shame the cartridges are 38 pence each
@Lazybones52
@Lazybones52 6 ай бұрын
Looks identical to my ATI that didn’t work right out of the box🤪
@jonwoods6589
@jonwoods6589 Жыл бұрын
Vented mid rib on a 410😊
@nwmacguy
@nwmacguy Жыл бұрын
.410 shootoff with David Florent sometime? ;-)
@the45er
@the45er Жыл бұрын
I've owned several "nice" o/u 410 shotguns. Sold 'em all. I love the 28 gauge but I'm personally not a fan of 410's. I'm simply not good enough to shoot game with them.
@grahamedwards9920
@grahamedwards9920 Жыл бұрын
I love the 410 but how long have we got before the lead ban makes them obsolete?
@teddypickertube6747
@teddypickertube6747 Жыл бұрын
My concern also…
@nwmacguy
@nwmacguy Жыл бұрын
Why obsolete? Plenty shoot steel from 410s elsewhere, Winchester Fe6 @1400fps. Look for hagerman wings farm .410 hunt to see what that load does on mallards with a 1/2 choke 25 yards and in. No problem. Federal also makes a Fe6/1400fps load. BOSS makes copper plated bismuth loads sizes UK 4,5,6 @1325fps
@grahamedwards9920
@grahamedwards9920 Жыл бұрын
@@nwmacguy I think you may be in the States, over here in the UK the general consensus seems to be that the industry just isn’t geared up to producing a reasonably priced non-lead alternative for the 410. That’s a real shame, I love the small gauge and would invest in another if I knew they had a future this side of the pond🤷‍♂️.
@nwmacguy
@nwmacguy Жыл бұрын
@@grahamedwards9920 , indeed I'm in the US right now. I think with the changing regs in the UK and Europe it will be an adapt product or lose out. Fall 2020 I could buy Win Fe6 for ~12GBP/25. In the meantime, couldn't distributors and/or other entities there import some of the plentiful non-lead 410 offering we have over here? Kent straddles the pond for production, so maybe they will do something. In the meantime, if you can reload Cheddite or Fiocchi hulls and BPI TPS-410 non-tox rated wads from the US work just fine. $22USD/200.
@grahamedwards9920
@grahamedwards9920 Жыл бұрын
@@nwmacguy you obviously know your stuff but over here everything moves very slowly and the direction in which things are going is uncertain. The axe may fall quickly on all firearm ammunition including air rifle pellets🤷‍♂️ but that is the worse scenario and it may be that any ban may be subject to exemptions or a long phasing out stage or both. It maybe just how badly we want to shoot the small gauges and the cost in terms of time and money.🤷‍♂️
@30STR8
@30STR8 Жыл бұрын
I shoot krieghoff and guerini's and for the money the yildiz is my all time favorite. Cheap enough to not feel bad about hacking away at the stock getting the right fit and still cheaper than a fitted stock. I have a 28ga for bird hunting and beat the living hell out of it every season.
@johnwilkes7190
@johnwilkes7190 Жыл бұрын
Fun for some casual clays, kicking bunnys out of the bush/hedges , mooching for a feed on a nice armed ramble with the dog(s) shooting over ferrets , sorting out squizzers rats etc whats not to like
@tomhman6441
@tomhman6441 Жыл бұрын
Great marketing straggly here in the states. One company only to buy from and they don’t ship to other gun shops. In other states.They want me to travel 700 miles to buy a 500 $ gun, then drive 700 miles home. So much for owning a Yildiz shotgun.
@hillbillyscholar8126
@hillbillyscholar8126 Жыл бұрын
No doubt any .410 is sexier than their larger bore counterparts but I sold mine long ago. If I am serious about bringing home a full game bag I would take a 20 gauge any day.
@dustytimmons8056
@dustytimmons8056 3 ай бұрын
I’ve got a couple but not in .410…yet. The reason I like them is because I can throw them in my truck or UTV and not worry about scratching them and get in a quick dove or quail hunt during work (I’m in the US). For what they are they are amazing and they let me shoot without having to be overly concerned about them. If I was shooting a $5000 gun I’m not sure I could bring myself to get it out of the safe😂. Love your channel keep up the good work.
@craiglines7512
@craiglines7512 Жыл бұрын
Limited when steel comes in
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
That is true - but with plastic wads and home loading it is doable.
@craiglines7512
@craiglines7512 Жыл бұрын
Only with lead not steel
@nwmacguy
@nwmacguy Жыл бұрын
@@craiglines7512, Cheddite hulls, BPI TPS 410 wads, not a problem for steel. 150gr/9.7gr load of Fe6 @1400fps.
@bobg3633
@bobg3633 Жыл бұрын
What are you only allowed over under shot guns in merry ole england?
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
We can have lots of things! I just love a double
@alibeyik3031
@alibeyik3031 7 ай бұрын
A good rifle produced in Turkey
@ShotawayFilms
@ShotawayFilms Жыл бұрын
How can you not fall in love with a 410 ? EASILY 😈 Not a fan of folks shooting driven birds with a 410.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
I agree for the most part, especially in your part of the world. I do think that on flat shoots with conscientious guns, there is a place for them
@ShotawayFilms
@ShotawayFilms Жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors Not sure what the point/challenge is J.C..I get the other light gauges but 410 is for rats and rabbits.Even more experienced guns are shy on judging distance from what I have witnessed.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
@@ShotawayFilms You are probably right, and it foes 3ith my own arguement that you shouldnt be using ballistics to challenge yourself, as it brings some strange ethics into question. I think the point for me woud be that .410 guns are nice, but that might not be enough
@Alcochaser
@Alcochaser Жыл бұрын
To me the 28 gauge is the best of both worlds.
@jimwright4941
@jimwright4941 Жыл бұрын
i love and shoot the 28 ga all the time. ran six straight grouse off my dogs points this yr. did not dirty the left barrell . after watching this video mabe a 410 in the future
@Alcochaser
@Alcochaser Жыл бұрын
@@jimwright4941 Ive tried .410s Just found the 28 Gauge a perfect fit.. well 32 Gauge would be even more perfect, but anything in 32 is rare gun.
@jimwright4941
@jimwright4941 Жыл бұрын
28 ga rules period. 11/16 oz is my target load with 8.5 shot. go to 3/4 for grouse and woodcock and 8.5 shot with imp cylinder and mod chokes no. 6 for pheasants
@robinloos1441
@robinloos1441 Жыл бұрын
If you can't use lead its no use to have one. With steel you can't hunt and bismuth, tungsten are to expensive. And this is also the problem with the 32, 28 and the 24 bore.
@nwmacguy
@nwmacguy Жыл бұрын
Why not? Plenty shoot steel from 410s elsewhere, Winchester Fe6 @1400fps. Look for hagerman wings farm .410 hunt to see what that load does on mallards with a 1/2 choke 25 yards and in. No problem. Federal also makes a Fe6/1400fps load.
@robinloos1441
@robinloos1441 Жыл бұрын
@@nwmacguy i'm from belgium and here we can't by steel, bismuth and tungsten for the 410 and the 28 bore. The 410 steel is to small load for hunting. Its not killing the birds like lead so you hit and loose a lot of them with the 410, 32, 28 and the 24.
@nwmacguy
@nwmacguy Жыл бұрын
@@robinloos1441, has not been a problem for me within range limitations. Match your choke to the load, or at least pattern your gun if fixed. Look on YT here for hagerman wings farm .410 hunt to see what that load does on mallards.
@robinloos1441
@robinloos1441 Жыл бұрын
@@nwmacguy looks good. But the problem is we can't by the steel cartridge 410 and 28 bore here in belgium. Not one gunshop in belgium have and sells them. I love to have a 28 and 410 bore but if you can't by the cartridge's there useless. I have already a 12, 16 and 20 bore.
@nwmacguy
@nwmacguy Жыл бұрын
@@robinloos1441, understood and the same situation currently in the UK. But with demand due to regulation changes, they will have to or lose out on sales. Either they will duplicate the US loads or import them. Currently in 28 gauge we have Fe4,6,7,7.5 all at 1350fps on offer from Win, Fed, & Hevi-Steel. For 16ga Fe2,4,6 @1350fps from Fed, Rem, Win & Browning. For reloading in 410, Cheddite 3" hulls and BPI TPS-410 wads are the way to go, but Fiocchi hulls too if that's what you can get. The BPI TPS wads are all made of HDPE so will have to wait for a bio solution to those, but all in due time. Lots of different bio wads in 12 and some in 20 now.
@alimeselmany5009
@alimeselmany5009 10 ай бұрын
How much in dollars $?
@robertkidnley93
@robertkidnley93 Жыл бұрын
The ammo is to expensive
@johnsoncozier2152
@johnsoncozier2152 Жыл бұрын
Love my 12 gauges
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Not if you shoot half as much….
@nwmacguy
@nwmacguy Жыл бұрын
For Win Fe6 steel 410, I paid, USD $13.99/25 fall 2020, $17.99/25 fall 2021, this fall was $22.99/25. Everything is going up.
@eduffy4937
@eduffy4937 Жыл бұрын
Not when you reload its not.
@kevindonaldson8655
@kevindonaldson8655 Жыл бұрын
It's 'too' motherfucker
@Moses20005
@Moses20005 Жыл бұрын
It’s so weird seeing a European saying “this gun is available for under £600”
@nikroozalavinia3174
@nikroozalavinia3174 6 ай бұрын
بسیار عالی بود❤👌👍
@leepeffer1304
@leepeffer1304 Жыл бұрын
Too bad they aren’t the equivalent of 600 pounds here in the states.
@XollyWolly
@XollyWolly Жыл бұрын
Yes vs no... Does the hundred smiles on your face cost 300£😏
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Smiles are priceless
@pavelmorozov6599
@pavelmorozov6599 Жыл бұрын
so funny how small it is. but i guess this is for women and children.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Жыл бұрын
I’m also 6’7
@pavelmorozov6599
@pavelmorozov6599 Жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors the ladies must love you then
@bencrane8505
@bencrane8505 Жыл бұрын
2 3/4 inches doesn’t feel like anything is going on. Then the laugh. I thought you were about to crack an off color joke.
@RockIslandguy
@RockIslandguy Жыл бұрын
That gun will outlast even the amount you shoot a year.
@bigglesbiggles4999
@bigglesbiggles4999 Жыл бұрын
The 410 makes no sense...the 28 bore does
@timeverett7828
@timeverett7828 Жыл бұрын
Could not agree more!
@michaelhicks708
@michaelhicks708 Жыл бұрын
I am 81 years of age and use a .410 for game shooting with great success, it's the man behind the gun !
@MrPanos2000
@MrPanos2000 9 ай бұрын
BRI'ISH????????
@jarradbaker8200
@jarradbaker8200 Жыл бұрын
410s are junk designed for sooks who cant handle recoil 😂
@stevencaldwell838
@stevencaldwell838 10 ай бұрын
The question I have is… would you take this gun into the field for let’s say dove, quail, pheasant, rabbit or squirrel? I’d love to try it out but with 3” shells of Bismuth or TSS…
@pointblank722
@pointblank722 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly made in Turkiye....
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