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@MrCoxmic
@MrCoxmic 10 ай бұрын
the marriage is always in trouble when the call uses "I, I, I"
@aolvaar8792
@aolvaar8792 10 ай бұрын
I married a sick woman so she would have free healthcare and could die in dignity. "I, I, I"
@PassionTech-zd3md
@PassionTech-zd3md 10 ай бұрын
The problem with these calls is we don’t have the other side.
@justinhogue9861
@justinhogue9861 10 ай бұрын
Well, this woman probably wouldn't like me, or most men out there. Even so, she married him.
@Yoboyboysammy
@Yoboyboysammy 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@lucaspm98
@lucaspm98 10 ай бұрын
Roles reversed and this call would have gone much differently. Every relational issue they default to almost entirely on the woman’s side, while telling men they’re either wrong or need to suck it up.
@hiteshadhikari
@hiteshadhikari 10 ай бұрын
​@@ekl2947they would have bashed him for being greedy and bs
@tonytoni1150
@tonytoni1150 10 ай бұрын
Nah bro, this is a classic call of “I married a spoiled bum of a man, now what should I do??” Happens pretty often on the show, and vice versa.
@lucaspm98
@lucaspm98 10 ай бұрын
@@tonytoni1150 the problem is if a man called in they first go to it being a partnership, and second go to other non-monetary contributions being left out. The truth is likely somewhere in between, but the clear gender bias has made John in particular hard to watch for a long time now.
@Dan16673
@Dan16673 10 ай бұрын
​@@lucaspm98truth is always in between. Would love his take
@terriesmith2616
@terriesmith2616 10 ай бұрын
If a man called in and said, "my wife didn't want to combine finances with me when we first married, but now that i make way more money than her, she now suddenly want to combine finances". "I did all the hard work, not her, i struggled to make more money and now that i make more than her, she wants to combine our income". If a man had said that, Baloney would call the man a selfish man-child for not wanting to combine income with his wife.
@adamseidel9780
@adamseidel9780 10 ай бұрын
Weird how in the very right before this when a woman called and had financially abused the husband for years John demanded he take full 50-50 responsibility for her abuse and mistakes, but when the husband is lagging behind the woman and she doesn’t want to share with him… he advises she doesn’t join accounts.
@currenteventsenthusiast9477
@currenteventsenthusiast9477 10 ай бұрын
This is the Dave Ramsey show
@paulaaquino
@paulaaquino 10 ай бұрын
The catch here is that he was the one demanding the 50/50 and separate money agreement, like those mgtow/incel Podcasters... now that she surpassed him, he wants a piece of it...
@adamarcher8359
@adamarcher8359 10 ай бұрын
Jade’s emotional intelligence is far and away better than every other Ramsey personality.
@OopThereItIs77777
@OopThereItIs77777 10 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY! She’s instantly on whatever the caller isn’t saying.
@jacquelinemacharia6433
@jacquelinemacharia6433 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree
@hadenanderson563
@hadenanderson563 10 ай бұрын
Yes. A+
@David-wo9un
@David-wo9un 10 ай бұрын
She made a comment that implied he shouldn’t benefit from the fact she went through school; wasn’t he holding the fort down during that time? They always state husband and wives are a team; why didn’t they remind her of this?
@lavenderkisses9461
@lavenderkisses9461 10 ай бұрын
She said he didn’t help with the house though.
@Dreamer-by4nk
@Dreamer-by4nk 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like he hasn’t been supportive and off doing his thing while she was working hard to get somewhere. That’s not a team. She needs to move on with her life and leave him behind.
@jimmymcgill6778
@jimmymcgill6778 10 ай бұрын
@@lavenderkisses9461 But is that really true?
@lavenderkisses9461
@lavenderkisses9461 10 ай бұрын
@@jimmymcgill6778 all we have to go off of is what she calls in with. Regardless they pointed her to talk with her husband and work at getting on the same page.
@sblijheid
@sblijheid 10 ай бұрын
@jimmymcgill6778 It happens Jimmy. My sister was married to such a guy. Needless to say, she divorced him. I know more people with this 50/50 setup and it's always the one making more money (all dudes), looking down on the other.
@dearestdarling9467
@dearestdarling9467 10 ай бұрын
50/50 relationships always feel like a roommate situation, because that is literally what roommates do! Split bills and keep accounts separate. Married couples who do that and are genuinely content are the exception, not the rule.
@MrCoxmic
@MrCoxmic 10 ай бұрын
they are 100/100
@TheSoulCrisis
@TheSoulCrisis 10 ай бұрын
@@MrCoxmic💯
@joycewright5386
@joycewright5386 10 ай бұрын
My husband and I lived together for 12 years before getting married. We just never bothered to combine finances mostly out of sheer laziness but 26 years later we are very happy and debt free.
@Smokey187um1
@Smokey187um1 10 ай бұрын
This is irony, she is going to have to give him spousal support if she wants to leave...this is equality.
@steve-on3234
@steve-on3234 10 ай бұрын
You are married. Half of yo stuff is his. Welcome to a man side
@YoutubeNeoconskeepcensoringme
@YoutubeNeoconskeepcensoringme 10 ай бұрын
You would think except, we have activist judges who legislate from the bench 🙄!!!
@MrTmenzo
@MrTmenzo 10 ай бұрын
Good for him she can pay alimony 👍
@tombellamy7167
@tombellamy7167 10 ай бұрын
It ain't no fun when the rabbit's got the gun....lol. Them equal rights is a mofo ain't it?
@SevenHunnid
@SevenHunnid 10 ай бұрын
For years now I been tryna make it out the hood so on my KZfaq channel i do food reviews while I’m high broski
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 10 ай бұрын
“I did all this” Imagine a husband saying this. Yikes
@susanwoywood6334
@susanwoywood6334 10 ай бұрын
True, but he's the one that wanted separate accounts from the get go when they first got married. Now that she's considerably surpassed him in wealth, he want to comingle their accounts. She now feels hurt by this.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 10 ай бұрын
@@susanwoywood6334 yeah. I agree. It’s just not worded right. Marriage is about giving yourself totally to the other. Yet this marriage started off by him wanting his money to be his alone.
@tonytoni1150
@tonytoni1150 10 ай бұрын
“He doesn’t respect other people’s hard work because he grew up privileged.” That’s a big character flaw, shouldn’t have married him.
@sblijheid
@sblijheid 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. I knew a guy who would tell me all the evil his ex did to him. Thankfully, I'm not that ignorant to believe anything that comes out of a human's mouth. It did seem that she did all that to him, except, she was just sticking it to him and it was so easy to see why. He is so selfish, it amazes me. My father is a narcissist and even he did not display that level of selfishness.
@untouchable360x
@untouchable360x 10 ай бұрын
His money is her money. Her money is her money.
@sasukesuite1
@sasukesuite1 10 ай бұрын
He wants her money to be his money though lol.
@Dreamer-by4nk
@Dreamer-by4nk 10 ай бұрын
But he hasn’t any, he’s a slacker.
@YoutubeNeoconskeepcensoringme
@YoutubeNeoconskeepcensoringme 10 ай бұрын
Tell the courts that 😂!!!
@Silverdragon517
@Silverdragon517 10 ай бұрын
It is their money not hers
@PhilipMurray251
@PhilipMurray251 10 ай бұрын
Our economy struggling with uncertainties, housing issues, foreclosures, global fluctuations, and pandemic aftermath, causing instability. Rising inflation, sluggish growth, and trade disruptions need urgent attention from all sectors to restore stability and stimulate growth.
@BenjaminMcLeod815
@BenjaminMcLeod815 10 ай бұрын
Things are strange right now. The US dollar is becoming less valuable because of inflation, and other powerful nations waking up to trade in their own currencies. Good thing is, a lot of people still turn to the Dollar because of the safety is somehow assures. I'm worried about my retirement savings of about $420,000 losing value because of these factors and more. Where else can we keep our money?
@Robertgriffinne
@Robertgriffinne 10 ай бұрын
Well, I suggest you make a diversification plan because it's been harder to build a good portfolio that stays afloat since COVID. Personally, I garner knowledge from a brokerage Adviser whom I work with, and I've actually made over $350K with their help since February. Very effective defensive strategies are used to protect my portfolio and make profits despite the ups and downs.
@user-3456rtu
@user-3456rtu 10 ай бұрын
I find this intriguing. Could you please provide me with the means to get in touch with your Adviser? I am concerned about my dwindling portfolio.
@Robertgriffinne
@Robertgriffinne 10 ай бұрын
My financial advisor is NICOLE DESIREE SIMON'. I found her on a CNBC interview where she was featured Afterwards I reached out to her on her webpage. she has since then provided me with entry and exit points in securities I focus on.
@user-3456rtu
@user-3456rtu 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@colleenindy6479
@colleenindy6479 10 ай бұрын
That was my narcissistic ex husband. If I did anything better than him he had to cut me down and make it insignificant. I walked away and it was my best choice
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 10 ай бұрын
I don't understand couples who resent each other for how much they make or don't make. It is all one pile. When I was younger my wife told me she felt bad that I earned more than her. It hadn't even occurred to me. I told her it doesn't matter it's all 1 pile. I also said there may be times you out-earn me, which ended up being true for over a decade. Then we were pretty much even for 2 years now I got a huge raise and out earn her by 62%. It doesn't matter.
@boston312
@boston312 10 ай бұрын
its not all one pile. Go through the divorce courts and see how much you and your wife are all one team.
@Blitcliffe
@Blitcliffe 10 ай бұрын
for a marriage to work, there should be no "I" from the moment you guys agreed to be couples but "WE" as both of you are now a team. i believe all this won’t be an issue if you allow a financial advisor manage your investment and money. Been Married for 15years, we never had any problems like this
@BradleyMaurice226
@BradleyMaurice226 10 ай бұрын
How can one find a verifiable financial Planner, I buy the idea of employing the services of a Financial Advisor because finding that balance between saving and living requires counsel.
@Blitcliffe
@Blitcliffe 10 ай бұрын
BECKY LOU GORDON . On the internet, that’s the financial advisor I use. She’s verified; you could also read more about her and then communicate with her. it’s always good to do your research before putting your money into any investment.
@BradleyMaurice226
@BradleyMaurice226 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Found her webpage and left a message. Hopefully, she responds.
@mutiny_on_the_bounty
@mutiny_on_the_bounty 10 ай бұрын
She makes more than him. She'll divorce his soon.
@Dreamer-by4nk
@Dreamer-by4nk 10 ай бұрын
Hope so.
@Dan16673
@Dan16673 10 ай бұрын
Prolly. He needs alimony
@rebekahdavis9052
@rebekahdavis9052 10 ай бұрын
Pray they find a solution. My first fiancé tried to do the separate finances thing to me, I sought counseling immediately once he said it and it dug up a BUNCH of other issues that I had ignored. Thankfully, I was able to end the engagement before it got worse. We had a child before we got married so that is a mess of it’s own, didn’t need further issues when we were supposed to be a “we”. God can heal hurts in a marriage though so long as both parties have a heart change!
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 10 ай бұрын
It took less than 1 minute for Deloney to tell her her marriage is F'd. This dude should NOT be a licensed therapist. This is insane. All he does is try to break marriages apart.
@BlessedOne_91
@BlessedOne_91 10 ай бұрын
She calling up to speak to strangers on a radio station for all the world to view on the internet. I find that to be very disrespectful if that was my wife doing this. Clearly their marriage is F’d if she’s behaving this way and calling up lol.
@greggpurviance7252
@greggpurviance7252 10 ай бұрын
It is "on thin ice." Stating the obvious is not breaking up a marriage. Have to see the problem before trying to fix it
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 10 ай бұрын
@greggpurviance7252 A lot of relationships are "on thin ice." That doesn't mean exacerbate the issue. Try to help them make it work, not make it fail. Suggesting marriage counseling is fine, but calling a spouse a DEADBEAT after 1 minute phone call with a stranger is not only not helpful, it's actually hurtful. He's the only one that would do that. None of the other personalities would go there - even Dave. I think Deloney has his little certificate so he thinks anything out of his mouth must be correct.
@andrew8168
@andrew8168 10 ай бұрын
He's called Baloney for a reason
@greggpurviance7252
@greggpurviance7252 10 ай бұрын
@@robloxvids2233 never said everything he says is helpful, just you could tell rapidly that the relationship was on thin ice. You can tell that from one spouse. Stating that is not bad. Need to hear spouses story to tell if he is a deadbeat. Learned early, never make decisions about someone with out hearing their story. That is not helpful.
@skyrobin4008
@skyrobin4008 9 ай бұрын
Say no!! Treat him like how he treated and viewed combined funds with you.
@FlyyHigh834
@FlyyHigh834 10 ай бұрын
"You dnt like him" lol
@DamianBadalamenti
@DamianBadalamenti 10 ай бұрын
I would love the see his side of the story
@Dreamer-by4nk
@Dreamer-by4nk 10 ай бұрын
Yea me too. It would be well daddy and mommy cut me off so let’s combine our money.
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 10 ай бұрын
It's probably "my wife is emotionally and physically unavailable and has been for years while trying to climb a corporate ladder that we do not need. Her work is #1 in her life and she's made that clear to me."
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 10 ай бұрын
"Is he a DEADBEAT?" "You don't like him!" Jesus Christ if I ever run into Deloney on the street..
@sblijheid
@sblijheid 10 ай бұрын
Are you safe?
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 10 ай бұрын
@sblijheid I'm a man so yeah. If I was a woman Deloney would assume I was a wittle scared toddler who needed her binky. He's so misogynistic without realizing it. He probably lists himself as a "feminist" on his social media profiles. He's obviously a misogynist.
@jennyberger6688
@jennyberger6688 2 ай бұрын
So did he hit a nerve or are you just this ridiculous??
@DSLightning21
@DSLightning21 10 ай бұрын
It's never a "money problem" when John is on the thumbnail. 😉
@musicpro7278
@musicpro7278 10 ай бұрын
When he's in the thumbnail I don't click on the video 90% of times
@sblijheid
@sblijheid 10 ай бұрын
But it really isn't a money problem.
@DSLightning21
@DSLightning21 10 ай бұрын
​@musicpro7278 Fair, considering that no one's marriage is as good as his. 😉
@musicpro7278
@musicpro7278 10 ай бұрын
@@DSLightning21 I bet his marriage isn't good either
@benjaminhough8804
@benjaminhough8804 10 ай бұрын
It’s absolutely insane to me that you’d get married, agree to live as one, have children, AND refuse to unite finances. My wife and I combined finances as soon as possible after the wedding and we make financial decisions TOGETHER. I get it might be stressful to do it, but we never even saw separate finances as an option.
@sayless1445
@sayless1445 10 ай бұрын
But your doing what a man needs to do for his home and family! This guy isn't and she isn't open to change things now.ijs
@dearestdarling9467
@dearestdarling9467 10 ай бұрын
@@sayless1445exactly. It honestly speaks volumes when MARRIED couples are not willing to combine finances. Two become one and you are joint in all accounts, except you rather keep the bank accounts separate? It increases the likelihood that they won’t be on the same page financially, which can lead to major issues.
@stevenporter863
@stevenporter863 10 ай бұрын
Not about trust and just being married. They are completely different skill sets. The spouse (man or woman equally) can be the greatest parent and spouse, but may not automatically understand finances no matter how many family meetings just because the state says they are married. That is way people have different roles and jobs. The best doctor I wouldn't ask to repair my car.
@aolvaar8792
@aolvaar8792 10 ай бұрын
Would you sign to split a $60K/yr pension, that you earned prior to marriage? or would you have the $60K hit your account and then split it.
@lucialuciferion6720
@lucialuciferion6720 10 ай бұрын
Only if he's on a similar page financial wise. If he splurges left/right and center, and I live frugal ,within my means, it would get very annoying very fast.
@thegenxgamerr
@thegenxgamerr 10 ай бұрын
Man calls in: "I dont want to combine finances with my wife when I get married" Ramsey Personalities "You are a man child, get out of your mothers basement" Woman calls in "I dont want to combine finances with my husband" Ramsey Personalities "There are other problems with your marriage right? Never mind about combining money" Another example of the double standard at Ramsey. When they talk out of one side of their mouth they say always combine finances. Even 15 years later, even if one spouse makes 3 times the amount. UNLESS its the female, then they start talking out of the other side of their mouth and creating all the caveats on why she shouldn't do that. Complete hypocrites.
@tracyaf6084
@tracyaf6084 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think they’re saying that they shouldn’t combine finances. They’re saying fix your marriage first then the finances will work out. I hear resentment from her and that’s toxic to a marriage.
@thegenxgamerr
@thegenxgamerr 10 ай бұрын
@@tracyaf6084 My guess is you have not listened to the Ramsey show for a long time. Some of us started listening to Dave Ramsey 10-15 years ago. The overall point is the "network" has shifted to a place where females are treated differently then men. Its Tone, narrative, approach and literally contradicting the advice they have given for nearly 2 decades. The pattern is clear, many of us see it.
@killersiggy
@killersiggy 10 ай бұрын
Assuming what the chick said is actually true. She said that her husband was the one who didn’t want to combine their incomes when he made more. Now that she makes more he wants to combine and she doesn’t want to. This all does point to major relationship issues. He definitely shouldn’t have done that again assuming this is all true and she isn’t twisting this to make her self look better.
@thegenxgamerr
@thegenxgamerr 10 ай бұрын
@@killersiggy If what she said is true and I am assuming it is the husband is suspect. She shouldnt combine income, no married couple should in this day and age. She chose to lead with the "I now make 3 times more and he didnt want to combine now he does" so she set the call up with this premise. That portrays the man negatively, fine. The Ramsey network for literally decades has promoted "combine finances" that has changed when the women calls with the issue and the majority of the income, the focus becomes "the other issues". It's blatantly hypocritical of them.
@Loruca
@Loruca 10 ай бұрын
I have a problem with your basic premise. Have you seen every interview? Is it possible you may have missed some down through the years that deal with combining financing? Do you know, for a certainty, that the word "always" adequately represents each case either way?
@2023Red
@2023Red 10 ай бұрын
At my age 75, and three marriages, I have had enough of free loading spouses. My single advice to this woman is the advice I finally gave to myself. Kick his ass to the curb. As I did to my two previous wives. My wife today is a carbon copy of me. Hard working, responsible, and caring. You too can find a man who is your equal.
@boston312
@boston312 10 ай бұрын
what were you thinking getting married 3 times? First time is understandable but how many times you have to keep repeating the same mistake?
@silksatinsilver1
@silksatinsilver1 10 ай бұрын
If #3 is a carbon copy, then one of you is unnecessary. When we start measuring apples to apples, likely she’s giving more in an area that you just don’t value, such as planning and communicating with family members to meet for meals or birthday celebrations. Often when the matriarch dies, so do the family gatherings and therefore the memory making moments
@2023Red
@2023Red 10 ай бұрын
Hey Buzzkill. Ever hear of T and A?
@2023Red
@2023Red 10 ай бұрын
@@silksatinsilver1 I just consider myself a very lucky man. There are so many gold diggers out there today. Slap on some lipstick, flash those boobs over drinks, and then seduce that man into paying off your student debt and credit card bills. Yep, men today need to be very careful on that blonde bimbo they take home!
@2023Red
@2023Red 10 ай бұрын
@@silksatinsilver1 I tend to agree with you. She gives more than i do in many ways. I am not good with family gatherings and so on. I am fortunate to have her in my life.
@journeytothevoid2899
@journeytothevoid2899 10 ай бұрын
I love how they take women callers on face value. The guy is always the problem haha 😂
@avidwaterfowler7522
@avidwaterfowler7522 10 ай бұрын
Yup, they always cater to women. SIMP.
@agjios
@agjios 10 ай бұрын
What information did the caller give that makes you doubt her? She just laid out some facts. How would 2nd guessing a caller even help? Wow, I really want to listen to a radio show where someone has a problem and the response is "nuh uh, that didn't happen" and then they hang up. What I think happened is that this call hit a little bit close to home so you have to reject it rather than facing maybe something similar in your own life.
@stephenshelton4267
@stephenshelton4267 10 ай бұрын
@agjios Do you share that attitude when the caller is male, and they do challenge what he says?
@avidwaterfowler7522
@avidwaterfowler7522 10 ай бұрын
@@agjios because it typically is the men that are in this situation. If the cards flipped, they’d still cater to the woman. %80 of all divorces are initiated by the woman. Stop catering, and treat each situation uniquely.
@avidwaterfowler7522
@avidwaterfowler7522 10 ай бұрын
@@ekl2947 stop simping. Why do you think women go for the bad boy that treats them poorly? It’s usually the man in the situation and the woman calls saying “my husband won’t combine incomes even though I make 50k/yr and he makes 125k/yr”. Then the shows says, “you don’t have a husband, you have a Roomate”.
@alanarzate93
@alanarzate93 10 ай бұрын
Everytime i see these type of videos marriage is less attractive to me
@fightsportspace7327
@fightsportspace7327 10 ай бұрын
She really said “You wasn’t with me shooting in the gym 4:10” 😳
@BlessedOne_91
@BlessedOne_91 10 ай бұрын
She calls her husband judgmental but this entire phone call she was judging her husband lol… Once a woman starts earning more money than you their behavior and how they treat a man changes. She was with this man for 15 years and now since she making more money she has an ego now. Notice how she said she makes “3x” more money than him. Could of just said she makes more than him. That’s the ego talking.
@TheSoulCrisis
@TheSoulCrisis 10 ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter how much more she makes, her husband sounds kind of shady off his request lol.
@BlessedOne_91
@BlessedOne_91 10 ай бұрын
@@TheSoulCrisis When they first got married she was broke and in debt going to school. I’m sure he requested to split finances but he was paying the majority of the bills while she did the cooking and cleaning. Splitting finances isn’t unusual or a bad thing unless you’re part of the Ramsey cult lol…
@tubenachos
@tubenachos 10 ай бұрын
Closet narcissist right here 💯
@BlessedOne_91
@BlessedOne_91 10 ай бұрын
@@tubenachos delusion entitled feminist right here 💯
@listerinr
@listerinr 10 ай бұрын
If you look closely, you can see Baloney jizz his pants in the first few minutes of this video.
@jimmymcgill6778
@jimmymcgill6778 10 ай бұрын
Yep.
@mattpalmq
@mattpalmq 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@kleindropper
@kleindropper 10 ай бұрын
Girl boss fought her husband to wear the pants in the family. Now that she won she doesn't respect him anymore and expects to jump up to a higher monkey branch.
@4C_Energy
@4C_Energy 10 ай бұрын
💯
@alinatamashevich3354
@alinatamashevich3354 10 ай бұрын
Kendra, welcome to what men have had to endure for decades!
@Dreamer-by4nk
@Dreamer-by4nk 10 ай бұрын
Yea, slacking.
@tracyaf6084
@tracyaf6084 10 ай бұрын
I’d think men for decades combined finances with someone who made less from the start. I honestly think that’s the issue.
@terriesmith2616
@terriesmith2616 10 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯💯💯 Can you imagine a man calling in and said "i worked hard, i did all this by myself, i make more money than her but she now wants to combine income". Imagine a man saying that, Baloney would go ape sh*t and called him a selfish man-child for not wanting to combine income with his wife.
@sblijheid
@sblijheid 10 ай бұрын
@terriesmith2616 Oh please! When she makes less, he wants separate finances, split the bill 50/50. Now when she makes more be wants to combine? That's a gold digger. You complain about it when women do it, but now that the man plays ho, it's okay? Just continue 50/50. If it worked for 15 years, it should work for the remainder of time. Combining finances is not always a good idea. My father married twice, and no wife combined finances with him. Why? He's a chronic gambler who will gamble the food money away!
@terriesmith2616
@terriesmith2616 10 ай бұрын
@@sblijheid The Ramsey team always advocates combining income. Men hear it all the time. So it's only fair that she combines income with her husband. If the calls were reversed, you would have a different opinion. You would shame the husband for not wanting to combine his income with his wife.
@listerinr
@listerinr 10 ай бұрын
But is she safe?
@David-wo9un
@David-wo9un 10 ай бұрын
I wonder if she is tired?
@jeremiahsmith450
@jeremiahsmith450 26 күн бұрын
Imagine if a man said this “oh I made this money, I worked for this, you didn’t go to work with me” OOOOOH they would attack that man. I’m starting to see a trend with Delony. His double standards are glaring
@juanrocha8544
@juanrocha8544 10 ай бұрын
So just to recap: Her money = HER money. His money = OUR money. Interesting 🤔
@madisonhruschka3718
@madisonhruschka3718 10 ай бұрын
It's the opposite. He said at the beginning of the marriage HE wanted separate finances. Now that she makes 3x more he wants to combine.
@flashthecorgi2053
@flashthecorgi2053 10 ай бұрын
You knows what’s hilarious to me. The men who always complain about Delony simping for the women are literally simping for the man. It’s always “oh she made that up”, “she’s leaving parts out”, or “he was probably holding down the fort while she was making all the money” when she clearly said he didn’t help around the house. Just a funny observation!
@terriesmith2616
@terriesmith2616 10 ай бұрын
That's the counter effect from Delony simping so much for women. Right or wrong, they are just trying to balance the scale. ⚖️ In real life, marriage is falling at an alarming rate, every year the marriage rate is getting lower and lower bc men are catching on and are tired of being taken to the cleaners. You can be on the feminist women's side all you want but that doesn't change the reality and the reality is that good men are stepping away from marriage completely. The only men left to marry are useless males whom women don't want but have to settle for if they want to get married. If you have daughters, niece, etc, the likelihood of them getting married to a good decent man is low, because these men are not getting married, the only men left are the undesirable .
@flashthecorgi2053
@flashthecorgi2053 10 ай бұрын
@terriesmith2616 I’m not in the category of a feminist. I don’t believe that women are always in the right but what I do believe is that not one time did Delony instigate a divorce. Matter of fact he literally gave them marriage counseling and all these cowardly men in the comments are saying “she’s not telling the full truth”, or “good for the man” I mean seriously look at these comments. Hard truth: Delony didn’t do anything wrong in this call, he gave her the truth about the reality of her marriage and said she has two choices walk away or rebuild. Those are literally her two choices!
@terriesmith2616
@terriesmith2616 10 ай бұрын
@@flashthecorgi2053 Yes, I agree that Delony never once advocated for divorce. I've never heard him say such things either. With that being said, these men (like I stated earlier) right or wrong (in this case...wrong) are over compensating for the many decades of the feminist movement and they are going to go the opposite direction, sometimes it could be an extreme opposite direction but that's a direct response to the modern feminist movement. Like it or not, the marriage rate is very low and getting lower as the year goes by. Most decent good men will not get married with today's modern women who are allergic to self accountability. Most decent men rather stay single or just be in a relationship without marriage. The only men left for women to marry are the undesirable men. These types of men will expect 50/50 in a marriage or they'll be moochers mooching off their wives. These types of men are most likely the product of a single mother household. Modern feminist ruined marriage for good women and bad, undesirable men ruined marriage for good women, in the end, both men and women lost. No one wins. That's how society falls into decay.
@flashthecorgi2053
@flashthecorgi2053 10 ай бұрын
@@terriesmith2616 Love is an action not a feeling. Men and women have to work together and choose on a daily basis to be in a good marriage. On both sides we all need to be better to save the institution and covenant of marriage! The thing about y’all always complaining about the personalities simping is every single personality is in a (from the outset) happy marriage. Dave has been married 40+, Ken and Delony 20+, Rachel almost 15, George 4, and Jade I think 10. All these marriages are successful that’s why they are all so high on marriage!
@terriesmith2616
@terriesmith2616 10 ай бұрын
@@flashthecorgi2053 I agree that men and women have to work together to have a successful marriage. It takes two to tango. As for all the personalities having a "happy marriage", these are just a handful of examples, they are the outliers, they are not the norm. Also, Delony has admitted multiple times that he and his wife have broken up before when they were dating and a few times in their marriage, it almost didn't work out, they almost got a divorce. Is that a happy marriage since they didn't divorce? Some would say yes, some would say no. In reality, we don't really knows what goes on inside these marriages. We only see the surface that they present. Even if they weren't happy, most of these personalities would not admit it as it's a bad look since they all work for Ramsey who is all about marriage and family. Also, all of these personalities are old. Boomers. They are not millennials (besides George ) nor are they Gen Z. Boomers have a different upbringing and a different mindset. Women back in those days were less promiscuous, less about themselves, they prioritize family. Not so some of today's women (and some men). The upbringing today is totally different and the mindset is different so you can't compare the two. Society was more conservative back in the days, not everything goes like in today's society. There is literally no shame anymore. The rate of divorce back in boomer days wasn't as high as today. So the comparison is lacking, imo.
@jaj3238
@jaj3238 10 ай бұрын
Imagine if a man said the same things. They would rip him a new one
@adambaldwinx
@adambaldwinx 9 ай бұрын
Damn John has such good reads - instantly read what the _actual_ problem was here.
@bebop504
@bebop504 10 ай бұрын
Why does John Delaney always tell women they “don’t like” their husbands? It’s strange
@John3.36
@John3.36 10 ай бұрын
She had a bunch of debt and was irresponsible, but finally grew up and paid them off. Now the husband sees it and wants to combine finances. He probably didn't want to take her debt on. Who knows anything about the past. Is this a second marriage? We don't know anything. Got to ask questions on both sides.
@StrawberryFieldsNIR
@StrawberryFieldsNIR 19 күн бұрын
The one bit that made me worry, was his changing the rules depending upon who had the most money at the time. Did not want to combine accounts in the beginning when he had more, she now massively out-earns him, he wants in. It could be he is one of those money-obsessed dudes, but I don't like the rule changes that 'just happen' to benefit him each time. So yes, I would lose respect for him over that, he seems to value money over her.
@gaylbeals6712
@gaylbeals6712 10 ай бұрын
The Ramsey show is now legit, I see the gal is wearing a Doobie Brothers Shirt!
@David-wo9un
@David-wo9un 10 ай бұрын
One of many reasons to like Jade; she is pretty awesome when she is given an opportunity to speak.
@FrankS111
@FrankS111 10 ай бұрын
C mon John. They’re a team. That’s the standard that has been set here. When a husband does all the work to bring the money and the wife is bringing the debt he needs to pay it off because “they’re a team”. While I agree the husband being a mooch in this situation BUT this is the prescient you and the womanists in the comments have set. You made the rules not me. She resents him because she makes more than him. When the wife makes more than the husband the risk of divorce skyrockets because they think they can always do better. I look forward to the angry comments from lefties and feminists in the comments 😃
@agjios
@agjios 10 ай бұрын
No, the caller doesn't resent her husband because she makes more than him. She resents the husband because now that she has the upper hand financially, suddenly it's important to combine finances and act like they're a team while up until now, he was allowed to be selfish. The caller said that she tried to combine finances but he didn't allow her to until it benefitted him, how did you miss all of that?
@dungeonmaster6292
@dungeonmaster6292 10 ай бұрын
​@@agjiosshe made that part up
@alinatamashevich3354
@alinatamashevich3354 10 ай бұрын
@FrankS, you are correct! Women file 80% of the time, when they have an advanced degree(IE: More income) that goes to 90%.
@YoutubeNeoconskeepcensoringme
@YoutubeNeoconskeepcensoringme 10 ай бұрын
Are they a team if something happens in the middle of the night??? Or when he's cutting the grass
@YoutubeNeoconskeepcensoringme
@YoutubeNeoconskeepcensoringme 10 ай бұрын
@@ekl2947 what to you mean "what"??? Learn English!!! Most act like couples are a team only when it's convenient. If something goes bang in the middle of the night, the man is expected to go handle it.
@matthewjohnson1643
@matthewjohnson1643 10 ай бұрын
Some people have spending problems.
@stevenporter863
@stevenporter863 10 ай бұрын
1:17 John, not about trust and just being married. They are completely different skill sets. The spouse (man or woman equally) can be the greatest parent and spouse, but may not automatically understand finances no matter how many family meetings just because the state says they are married. That is why people have different roles - the best doctor I wouldn't ask to repair my car. If I have feelings you think I can do your job?
@OopThereItIs77777
@OopThereItIs77777 10 ай бұрын
This wouldn’t be a thought in my house. I would be excited if I were here, she doesn’t trust him & their love is slipping away
@marielang9552
@marielang9552 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t of trusted him right from the start if he didn’t want to combine funds.
@MikeyPaper
@MikeyPaper 10 ай бұрын
Haha you must like guys who are doormat yes men.
@jacoblynch9862
@jacoblynch9862 10 ай бұрын
In my opinion, they never truly had a marriage and it almost sounds to me like they were more in a Situationship. I think they both would be best if they just went their separate ways just my two. Cents.
@jimroscovius
@jimroscovius 10 ай бұрын
Why did she marry him in the first place?? She should have run when he wanted separate accounts. They've been roommates for 15 years.
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 10 ай бұрын
She needs semen to make a child.
@MrTmenzo
@MrTmenzo 10 ай бұрын
To be fair she said she wanted to combine finances when she was a broke college student and a far loan. Is it possible he used "tough" love by making her pulling her weight and getting to a better financial position?
@TheSoulCrisis
@TheSoulCrisis 10 ай бұрын
I think that is possible, but it is putting a bad taste in one’s mouth when you only ask to combine finances because they are making much more. If you made a deal to “pay off your debt first, then we combine,” I think that is much better on principle and how it sounds versus just waiting years to see how well someone does. Definitely sounds like he wants to ride her hard work and success later in life, versus setting specific timelines and goals. Even if they have debt a marriage shouldn’t be carried out like they did imo. At least they could have had a combined bill pay account and vacation fund account while maintaining personal checking accounts.
@jimmymcgill6778
@jimmymcgill6778 10 ай бұрын
1 minute in, and John is saying there's a marriage issue? These 2 are putting all these thoughts in her head. It seems that he actively tries to break people up.
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 10 ай бұрын
He absolutely does. He gaslights every female caller into thinking she needs to divorce her husband. It's fucking sickening.
@flashthecorgi2053
@flashthecorgi2053 10 ай бұрын
@@robloxvids2233lol no he doesn’t. Not one time did he say “divorce your husband” he said your marriage is in crisis (which it is because she resents him.) so go call a marriage counselor! That doesn’t say anything about divorcing. You’re just taking Delony’s words out of context to fit your narrative that he’s this evil man hating guy!
@jimmymcgill6778
@jimmymcgill6778 10 ай бұрын
@@flashthecorgi2053 You do not have to actually say the words, to say it.
@flashthecorgi2053
@flashthecorgi2053 10 ай бұрын
@@jimmymcgill6778 dude he literally gave the woman 3 months of free marriage counseling… now tell me why you would do that If you were in the business of breaking up marriages. Think!
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 10 ай бұрын
@flashthecorgi2053 He literally suggested her husband was a "DEADBEAT" and told her she "doesn't like him." Maybe he's got a 10 inch hog and fixes everything around the house and his kids love him. Money isn't the sole judge of character or the sole reason a woman falls in love with a man. Baloney needs to check himself before he wrecks himself. 100.
@asavannah7439
@asavannah7439 10 ай бұрын
My husband and I both had nothing when we met. Now everything we have was achieved by both of us equally. Mortgage and debt free in our Forties with 3 paid off properties. It helps, that we don't have children 😄😉
@musicpro7278
@musicpro7278 10 ай бұрын
Get to having children
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 10 ай бұрын
Children are priceless not expensive
@Dan16673
@Dan16673 10 ай бұрын
No children makes everything ultra easy. Retiring early etc etc is drastically easier
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 10 ай бұрын
@@Dan16673 tons of couples with no children have tons of problems. Humans were meant to have children
@asavannah7439
@asavannah7439 10 ай бұрын
Everyone can decide if they want 1 child, no children or 10 children. Some people rather have 6 cats. It's all good,live your life how you want to as long as you don't harm anyone
@jimmymcgill6778
@jimmymcgill6778 10 ай бұрын
Now there are OK with keeping finances separately, because the woman is making more money? Now she changes her mind about combining it?
@Tank-vi2dv
@Tank-vi2dv 10 ай бұрын
Funny how that works, right? They more flippy floppy than... flip flops.
@sblijheid
@sblijheid 10 ай бұрын
They should keep it separate. If it worked for 15 years, why change it?
@cathyosullivan718
@cathyosullivan718 10 ай бұрын
There often seems to be one very selfish person in a couple. Why can’t people be fair with money?
@DamianBadalamenti
@DamianBadalamenti 10 ай бұрын
She's making more then him so now she doesn't respect him.. Marriage os over, this is a huge struggle for most women when they become a bread winner... She'll search gor her equal and struggle to fond it, because sharing is hard for her
@lavenderkisses9461
@lavenderkisses9461 10 ай бұрын
But this isn’t what she said at all.
@Dan16673
@Dan16673 10 ай бұрын
Is it
@terriesmith2616
@terriesmith2616 10 ай бұрын
​@@lavenderkisses9461 Learn how to read between the lines. She doesn't have to say it outright but that is what she's feeling. She feels resentment towards him since she makes way more money than him and doesn't want to share with him, doesn't want him to spend _HER_ money. But if the roles were reversed, if he was making more money than her, then she wouldn't have a problem.
@lavenderkisses9461
@lavenderkisses9461 10 ай бұрын
@@terriesmith2616 from my perspective, that is not what I heard. She said she feels resentment because NOW he ways to combine finances-but before he did not. Nothing to do with she makes more than him but everything to do with now HE treats her different.
@sblijheid
@sblijheid 10 ай бұрын
She's not the bread winner, they both work. She just makes more.
@zenthegeneral
@zenthegeneral 10 ай бұрын
Another reminder why learning to be happy being single is the single best superpower you can have. She obv didn't need the guy but she was so afraid of "being alone" that she got herself a roommate to call "husband" She can't file for divorce tho, since he'll prolly get more money, and that wouldn't jive with "social norms" I think that'd be a great idea tho
@sblijheid
@sblijheid 10 ай бұрын
It always amazes me how people ignore the red flags before they get married. Pink glasses give distorted views. Take them of when you plan your future. It's a form of the government will forgive our student loans. Love does not conquer all.
@pauljensen4773
@pauljensen4773 10 ай бұрын
She is the one withholding sex. She doesn't respect her husband. I have to ask: Did he put her through school? John needs to ask more questions though.
@loujon191
@loujon191 10 ай бұрын
How long was she a stay at home mom
@superman9772
@superman9772 10 ай бұрын
marriage is a "contract" that morphs everyday... there's nothing solid in life and relationships are probably the most fluid ....
@rldays9179
@rldays9179 10 ай бұрын
They are missing the human psyche. She got married in a situation where he was the provider and the money maker, security etc. Now she has her own money so the balance has flipped. So for every other thing, they missed the emotion. This relationship sounds to me like she is about to go out and find a guy who makes more money than her to be the security provider again. And without speaking for the husband since we never heard his side, he sounded like he was in control by not letting her have his money and he controlled the purse strings and now he wants to keep some of that control by getting at her money but he already burned that bridge. My guess is they were never in love so much as they just got together and the relationship fit the mold. He was in charge and she let him. Now she has power and resents him for not having that same control. For not growing like she did. We can only guess what he is thinking.
@aimeevargas4016
@aimeevargas4016 10 ай бұрын
You choose him girl.
@MyNameIsCorey
@MyNameIsCorey 10 ай бұрын
Man that was a awesome analogy at the end... Good thing I don't have to give John the credit for it...
@joshandkatieferguson5497
@joshandkatieferguson5497 10 ай бұрын
Does anyone know: Was it "Esther Perel" that Deloney sited?
@iamkesha.
@iamkesha. 10 ай бұрын
Girl, been there, done that. When you are turned off and checked out, it is hard to go back.
@dungeonmaster6292
@dungeonmaster6292 10 ай бұрын
Let's get the husband on the line and get the full story. Every caller that Doctor Balogna takes is told to divorce. And they're all women
@flashthecorgi2053
@flashthecorgi2053 10 ай бұрын
Umm you clearly didn’t listen to the call John didn’t say to divorce him. He said your marriage is in crisis and you have two options rebuild or walk away. Not one time did he say “you must divorce your husband” good gosh stop taking his words out of context! 🙄
@dungeonmaster6292
@dungeonmaster6292 10 ай бұрын
@@flashthecorgi2053 dr. Balogna
@greggpurviance7252
@greggpurviance7252 10 ай бұрын
Children don't listen, children call names
@dungeonmaster6292
@dungeonmaster6292 10 ай бұрын
@@greggpurviance7252 does Dr. Balogna make you feel safe?
@sasukesuite1
@sasukesuite1 10 ай бұрын
Husband: “Let’s combine finances” Caller: “You wasn’t with me shooting in the gym”
@black4vcobra
@black4vcobra 10 ай бұрын
John, if you read this, there is an in-between besides separate or combined finances. In my situation, I pay all the bills and my wife sends me a proportional amount each month compared to our incomes. When she took off work 3 months for the birth of our son it was agreed upon she did not have to cover bills those 3 months. We also agreed on any "large" purchases over say $150 unless groceries or necessary child items.
@Tunechi65
@Tunechi65 10 ай бұрын
LMAO y'all are roommates. This is what I did with my buddy in college 😂😂😂 no way y'all are married and a TEAM😂😂😂😂 I can't imagine asking my wife to cash app me her portion lmfao
@black4vcobra
@black4vcobra 10 ай бұрын
@Tunechi65 ok, so 50/50 is a better idea than what was mentioned in the call? What happens when one person is a surgeon and the other a teacher? 50/50 makes zero sense. But sure, be critical of me if you want, doesn't bother me. I feel our situation is a healthy balance between 50/50 and combined everything. It splits the bills proportionally yet avoids the fights that could come from "you spent my money" on a purse/dress/gun/TV/tablet, etc That is where the agreement about not spending much in a given situation covers the financial responsibility issue.
@djpuplex
@djpuplex 10 ай бұрын
Smart man. Women don't share their gold. When a woman makes more than the man the marriage is doomed. Wonder how much he supported the house. Wonder if he'll get spousal support? He's entitled to it they are married.
@flashthecorgi2053
@flashthecorgi2053 10 ай бұрын
RE: “Wonder how much he supported the house” at 4:12 “He didn’t take care of the house while I was gone” … go ahead just keep simping for the man. It’s okay to be hypocritical!
@djpuplex
@djpuplex 10 ай бұрын
@@flashthecorgi2053 That's if you believe what she says. I'm sure if he wasn't pulling his weight atleast somewhat she would have filed a long time ago. How did she go to go school? A lot of holes in that story.
@flashthecorgi2053
@flashthecorgi2053 10 ай бұрын
@@djpuplex haha again finding every way to simp for the man. You do realize you guys do the exact same thing you accuse Delony doing to women. You find literally every excuse to find why this woman is in the wrong! It’s hilarious 😂🤣
@djpuplex
@djpuplex 10 ай бұрын
@@flashthecorgi2053 You can not take anyone male or female that calls in at face value. Hearing oneside does no good. However in the 41 years in this planet I've learned that 1. Women never take accountability and 2. Women tend to shape the narrative if not outright lie when speaking about past partners or soon to be ex husbands. Believe what you want.
@flashthecorgi2053
@flashthecorgi2053 10 ай бұрын
@@djpuplex Okay but Dr. John has acknowledged enough that there are two sides to a story however he has to take them at face value to help them in their particular situation. You and I both know (especially because you watch Delony’s show as well) that he always invites the other side to call in until then he goes off the info he has. Conjuring up what the other side of the story is pointless because we really don’t know!
@matthewjohnson1643
@matthewjohnson1643 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like she unhappy about the fact that he doesn’t make enough.
@toro80
@toro80 10 ай бұрын
Crazy how she said I’m a goodly married and bla bla bla but the money! don’t mix those 2 don’t bring good in the conversation just to feel better or get sympathy
@nicodimus2222
@nicodimus2222 10 ай бұрын
I really feel like joint accounts can create a lot of problems. Almost inevitably, one person makes a purchase that the other disapproves of or resents, or that goes outside the initially agreed upon use of the account. Disagreeing about money is the number one reason couples split up. My wife and I have separate accounts and it's been smooth sailing for us for 14 years. Will it work for everyone? Unlikely, but it can definitely help avoid a giant pitfall.
@CurieBohr
@CurieBohr 10 ай бұрын
The psychoanalysis is too pushy. “I don’t want to join finances” - “you hate him” Sounds more like a case of, I make more, I don’t want to share.
@gtileo
@gtileo 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like she's pretty bitter and resentful for him thinking that was the way he had to protect himself.
@njfuentesrespecter81
@njfuentesrespecter81 8 ай бұрын
Isn’t it funny that one of the very few times the roles are reversed, it is IMMEDIATELY a problem. If the wife was earning 3 times less and demanding joint finances, Dave and this guy wouldn’t have a problem with it, and would actually be chastising him for putting up resistance against joining accounts. The second the wife is fulfilling the masculine role, NOW we are all worried about joining accounts
@benc2547
@benc2547 10 ай бұрын
Women look at men as the providers. So since she makes more money than her husband she has no use for him. This is exactly what is happened here. If she genuinely loved her husband that would not be an issue
@stevenclay9573
@stevenclay9573 10 ай бұрын
Don't combine finances
@TonyCox1351
@TonyCox1351 10 ай бұрын
Definitely combine finances with your spouse. This dude cray cray
@mattpalmq
@mattpalmq 10 ай бұрын
LMAO if this were a man calling they would’ve handled this completely differently
@SportsshortsScott
@SportsshortsScott 10 ай бұрын
Why when a man does it’s he married you y’all should be a team - but when a women calls up oh something is wrong he’s lazy he’s not earning. Hold her to the same standards - they should be combined - she married him
@dungeonmaster6292
@dungeonmaster6292 10 ай бұрын
Do you feel S A F E
@RawVeganGinger
@RawVeganGinger 10 ай бұрын
Jade 😂 Love all of her expressions!
@CheapAssKyle
@CheapAssKyle 10 ай бұрын
ok
@JC-xu1cz
@JC-xu1cz 2 ай бұрын
Divorce him. She has contempt for him.
@cabayern9416
@cabayern9416 10 ай бұрын
That grunting is so off-putting.
@connorhus
@connorhus 10 ай бұрын
How much were they making at the start? How old are they now? Alot of things have to be placed on the table before I would have an opinion....
@johndone8045
@johndone8045 10 ай бұрын
I have been together for 15 years without combining finance and theres zero problem, just discuss your money on a regular basis Idk what american marriage is like but this just sound stupid
@user-nq4fm5iz9q
@user-nq4fm5iz9q 10 ай бұрын
Its slways the guy. Yes it is part his. This lady isnt telling the entire story
@kurdishkong9030
@kurdishkong9030 10 ай бұрын
Whoever that dude is. He’s trying to instigate violence in their marriage. Where the heck is Ramsey?
@justinhogue9861
@justinhogue9861 10 ай бұрын
The woman has problems too. She is heading fast in the opposite direction of a godly marriage.
@lonestarrk9308
@lonestarrk9308 10 ай бұрын
Like that kid in the school project group that contributed nothing but wants credit.
@rleonekc07
@rleonekc07 10 ай бұрын
there's a reason there's a 50% divorce rate
@barryisa7353
@barryisa7353 10 ай бұрын
No no no, and I am a man. I would tell my sister/daughter/mom etc not to give him crap
@boston312
@boston312 10 ай бұрын
I love watching the gender war in these comment sections. America is on the tilt of some serious civil chaos including gender issues. Im glad I left the country years ago.
@atenas80525
@atenas80525 10 ай бұрын
Be careful about triangulation . . .
@burner2235
@burner2235 8 ай бұрын
She’s acting like 95% of the time the guy supplies most of the money
@Mysteri0usMem0
@Mysteri0usMem0 10 ай бұрын
men have this exactly scenario 90% of the relationships. we have always provide, women cant handle it.
@maximusdecimusmeridius5438
@maximusdecimusmeridius5438 10 ай бұрын
When women make more the marriage is over
@alinatamashevich3354
@alinatamashevich3354 10 ай бұрын
Women file 80% of the time, when they have an advanced degree that jumps to 90%
@aolvaar8792
@aolvaar8792 10 ай бұрын
@@alinatamashevich3354 Skewing, Men are more likely to leave a marriage and NOT file, then the wife files.
@jimmymcgill6778
@jimmymcgill6778 10 ай бұрын
Yeah John, the towers just "fell"?
@amireallythatgrumpy6508
@amireallythatgrumpy6508 10 ай бұрын
Well that has nothing to do with anything.
@luminous6969
@luminous6969 10 ай бұрын
4:04 Bro, women do that to men ALL THE DAMN TIME AND THE COURTS AGREE SO GTFO WITH THAT WELCOME TO WHAT MEN GO THROUGH.
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