Same bro

Wish I could say the same but I'm at work smh....going in sober

It's a magical thing

Lmao just got ripped now onto more one piece theories🎉

Yes!!! LOL. 😁😁😌😌😂😂🤣🤣

LMFAOOOO Foxy being "Rocksy's" son would be kind of funny. how the crew fell from there hahah

That would be amazing 😂

@@Parvision- kaido said that there are only 5 people capable of fighting him and one of them was rocks

​@@mrprogamerx6050 what chapter(s) did he say this again?

@@GhostEmblem1001

The moment Oda reveals Rocks had blue hair is gonna be legendary Also Rayleigh made a remark about Oden kids being on the ship reminding him of the past made me think maybe buggy and shanks growing up on Roger ship after God valley makes sense. Also buggy being entrusted to Roger by rocks same way he would do the same with ace to Garp would be crazy foreshadowing.

Well history being written for the winner says Rodger was put to death but his last word started this and Buggy being from his crew had some fame, we do not "know" much of the real story. Btw Washington took office in 1789 well later than people assume but hearing 76 which goes to this show, also the "winner" was not either Pirate crew of Rocks or Rodger it was the one who had gotten to lay the claim. Either has a case but who knows

Rocks' will is in Blackbeard. His genetic line is in Luffy because Dragon is Rocks' son

@@mattb6616 interesting and totally plausible line of thought, Matty B.

@@dradenlol8667 i think its the only possible explanation of Woop Slap's iconic "is it his dream... or his destiny?" line. Why would it be Luffy's destiny to be a pirate if no one in his entire family or history was a pirate, and he only even started caring about pirates after he befriended Shanks? It doesn't make sense, unless he does actually have some family history with pirates. Also Garp never actually calls Dragon his son, it's always "Luffy's father" and Luffy is "The child of my child", specifically never saying "son of my son". I think Dragon is Rocks' son and he married Garp's daughter, and the reasons Dragon and Garp hate the celestial dragons are the same; they took Luffy's mom. This is also I think why everyone in the Marines is just okay with Garp's insubordination, because they'd be assholes to call him out on it when it's because of his daughter being killed or enslaved.

🤣🤣 I made this comment 18 min in.

LMAOOO CELICIA MINDROPE

But kaido respect rox and even garp said that he had his own era

@@jonathancharles3719 that right and it's said that Rock was his greatest enemy

well i don't think that's true or kiado would've have not put him on his list on top 5 who can beat him if he level type character like buggy

Mihawk said himself about Luffy that the strongest power on the seas is the power to bring people together and, no matter how he did it, Rocks brought Conquerors together. That right there makes him Top 5. No one else that we know of has done that

@@onliwonkenoli9868 Exactly. And the history of the Rocks pirates was wiped. Sengoku said "The World Government Erased their Exploits"

​@@onliwonkenoli9868 oh so you mean because Rocks and Buggy can use talk no jutsu that means they're strong enough to beat Kaido? Damn didn't know Buggy was like that, yeah this theory makes sense 😂

​@@onliwonkenoli9868 remember the only pirates on kaido's top 5 were people that has beaten him or can beat him.

Kaido was a brat at Rock's time. He prolly got bamboozled if we go by the theory at hand.

kaido only said people who could fight him, not defeat haha and he didnt include garp which def sus esp now. but haha i think buggy cud fight mihawk and mihawk would actually have to exert himself considering buggy survived rogers ship + the fruit diff haha mihawk would win obviously. but haha kaido would win against oden right. i wonder if kaido would have put oden there if he didnt scar him.

Kaido wasn't in Rocks' inner circle. He was just an apprentice on the crew. So his view of Rocks would have been more akin to that of a random Impel Down escapee's view of Buggy.

probably strong but also just adding. mihawk and crocodile wudnt be following a man like buggy UNLESS I'm sure oda could add context to rocks to make it make sense for WB and the rest

@@Parvision- how do you explain when kaido compared luffy to rocks

@@aryankadian5276 The video says it, Kaido may have never actually seen him fight and just assumes him to be legend level, or otherwise there is a possibility that Buggy, while being a complete fraud will be able to display some legendary feats of strength at some point.

@@Parvision- we already know why Mihawk and Croc are working under Buggy

@@j3nki541 Those people are people who FOUGHT Kaido. I think God Valley was more or less a tragedy as opposed to a humiliation. Like something unspeakable happened there and no one wants to talk about it.

exactly. I included a panel, but idk why that just reminded me of foxy like foxy is a good for nothing

​@@Parvision- it would be a cool parallel between them since it's implied rocks used the Davy back fights to form his crew too. I had been pushing for a long time that Rocks' devil fruit was the awakened noro noro no mi, which at that point would just be The World from jojos

The entire strawhat have called luffy good for nothing lol they constantly beat him does that mean he is weak?

Kaido's top 5 list lol 🤣🤣🤣 Sounds like Kaido out here power scaling like the rest of us haha

Watch the video to the end

@@oliwierszaagan7498 yeah I watched. It's an interesting idea, but I'm not entirely convinced. It's possible and I personally love the idea of Fraud D. Xebec, but it feels like we need more information before I'm on board with it.

​@@Sin05269 to be fair you also need more info to just assume rocks was strong.

@@mugen29 true

I dont think rocks necessarily had to be weak as we would describe it. maybe deceivingly strong. it wudnt be the first tikensomeones reputation makes a mockery of them. I mean think about how thyed describe buggy. a former crew of pirate king, brother of red haired shanks, warlord, and Yonko. you know of assume this man must have haki to rule over mihawk and WB. if law were to make a top 5 rn haha wudnt be surprised if buggy were there lolol but even that's weird right. but it cud be like rocks had some kind of power that gave kaido alot of trouble. like how mihawk cudnt do anything to buggy at marineford. theres like 9 different ways oda could take this preconception we have and turn it on us

Kaido was 15 when he joined the crew so he could be fooled

​@@hydracollector3588so you think no one would even tell him about that ? Also in the road to laughtale he was said to be Rogers greatest rival above garp and wb why would oda lie to us

@@lucifer61479 buggy almost killed Luffy in front of everyone in loguetown,in public eyes buggy is his greatest foe,no one reach that close to kill him. But we know the truth. That's why their crew don't talk about rocks.

exactly!

theres so many ways to explain it

Fox D. Xebec

What if Rocks awakened the Noro Noro no mi and slowed the world to timeskip himself to the future? But there's Foxy's fruit so...

EXACTLY! thank you yes. the option is completely valid and there, and i have no doubt in my mind that oda can execute on that really well imo Rocks can be strong, but maybe not like the legends haha. If we get a flashback and roger is memeing on rocks like luffy is when law says buggy is strong, i will be dying of laughter haha but yeah at the same time buggy is actually decently strong, just not top 30 for the verse kind of strong atleas tnot yet

@@Parvision- The theory falls apart because Kaido thinks of him as strong. Kaido isn't going to consider someone playing games and using cheap tricks as strong, he has little respect for dishonorable combat. Buggy fools people who have no clue, but he isn't fooling people who actually have real ability, Crocodile/Mihawk look at him like a bug. The world could maybe be fooled as far as Rock's supposed strength, but people like Kaido aren't going to be fooled by that.

Wasn't he a baby when he was on Rogers ship

​@@AsadAyub-kx9xwno, he's said to have been born on the grand line. Shanks was a baby, but Buggy may have joined later.

And his hair is blue like vivi, and he uses makeup to cover up his face as a "joker" 😐

if that were the case he would either have to be cobra's younger brother or a cousin or something. But he never reacted in any way to the news of Cobra dying. When with Vivi missing he could just go there and take over saying it was his right. So i think that one is a no.

@@zeromagnum2811 i think he's nefertari titi's brother.

Buggy 4 Pirate King!!

Maybe it does but technically it would have to be Rocks D. Buggy

Rocks D. Buggy

@@oliwierszaagan7498 Nah its gotta be Buggy D Xebec xd

@@rabbithead1412 but that's not how Names work in One Piece.

but I dont think crocodile and baroque works had the notoriety of rocks pirates. so yes its an upset but the levels of an upset that a single rookie marine took down this nefarious captain and 3 of the Yonko who were not like weak. big mom solod giants at 5, and kaido was out destroying kingdoms at 10 or w.e so by the time god valley comes around, they were monsters for sure.

no I think whitebeard and shiki know. it might be the same reason mihawk and crocodile are under buggy.

Mihawk and croco boy knows buggy's fraud and yet follow him. The same could apply on rocks crew. The only one who has the illusion of rocks being strong is kaido who was just a kid under him

Do we know how he joined tho? he was also at the age of 15, yes he was strong. but 15 year old luffy could get punk'd by most of the new world right? on top of that theres more nuance to joining a pirate crew right? the reason why kaido has a strength merit based system now, might be because rocks didn't have that. but how many times do we see people following others because of a dream. if kaido at 15 escaped navy 15 times and then also hated the celestials and world government or atleast didnt want to be their pawn. well we see whitebeard and big mom doing much of the same. you can group these monsters by a common goal, so would it be weird for a 15 year old kaido to follow a band of pirates that were stronger than him, and the captain was shielded by whether it be respect, an illusion, or a plethora of other reasons, then yeah i could see kaido doing that. THat could be why kaido was called a rat by big mom, could be why big mom said rocks wasnt reliable and if kaido needed anything to go to her. The other part of it is yes kaido is a man respects pure strength, that is the kaido now. after god valley, years after. what was he like before. The thing about strength is it comes in so many shapes and sizes. if rock's strength was buggy's strength, which mihawk said is the most formidable power of the seas, to get allies. then Rock's power was able to get a bunch of conquerors to band underneath his name. where as even with all the strength kaido has, he could not do even close to the same where his right hand doesnt even have conquerors. but the overall point being when you said kaido wouldn't have joined the rocks if he didnt respect xebecs strength. Did kaido respect the vodka king's strength, fighting underneath him for however long? he was 15 going at the world, and then comes along whitebeard who would definitely slam kaido at that time, and this super strong dude tells you to work under a man because he will give you the proper direction to fight the world government, yeah i can def see multiple ways kaido joins, and then later reflects about why it wasnt great. now as to why he would compare him to luffy, shanks, roger, whitebeard and oden. i think the nuance is there like hey he didnt put akainu, garp, or BIG MOM in that list? if kaido couldnt beat rocks, maybe there was a reason, albeit a ridiculous one, that kaido saw rocks in that way. but that same reason would lead all of the monsters on rocks to follow him in the first place. it could be that rocks had good haki and whooped 15 year old kaido, sure. but again any haki would have whooped 15 year old luffy. It could be that rocks had a crazy devil fruit that allowed him to get hits on kaido, in a way that he cudnt defend. but i do agree theres a reason why blackbeard parallels rocks on the surface, and i have to think that its because its a mix between blackbeard and buggy to some extent.

@@Parvision- Disagree first of all what does Rocks being a fraud ads any weight to the story? In fact it does the opposite. Kaido is not a fool he’s not going to judge someone’s strength just by looking at them those top 5 are people that he actually fought and respect the fact that he never said anything Good about Rocks meaning that he doesn’t respect his character but still respects his strengths even after reaching his primes means a lot. when u look at the God Valley panel Rocks is the one standing infront of his crew against Roger and Garp Buggy don’t have that type of energy

@@Parvision- If Whitebeard can tell Buggy is a fraud don’t why he wouldn’t be able to do the same with Rocks

@@abdulrisark4782 he was a kid

​@@achrafmaaden6263 was is the keyword 😂

🙏🏼 ayyy I'm glad you enjoyed this one! always love rogerbases crew haha appreciate you

oh yeah no worries I got s bunch of videos locked and loaded Haha just upgrading my editing style and such, so my videos are more digestible by everyoje

Im glad, i genuinely think like this all the time and its done me wonders haha

Exactly i agree, and i feel like the rogers pirates probably did Most of the winning there. like if you think of it like this right in the imagery of god valley, it was a bunch of civilians. even PTS buggy could have wreaked havoc like that lmao luffys crew could stop them and more. im just imagining there had to be some kind of complication with the world government which is why they chose to hide details, spin the news, and things like that. but its less so about rocks and more so about hte location and the place. if it werent why delete it. and rocks was just a victim of being associated with it. but also they did say they were there for a big score, so wonder what thats about haha

@@Parvision- yeah I mean we know there were also celestial dragons there so who knows why, makes you wonder why Roger would help the government in the first place they aren’t good ppl they condone slave trade and just want to control the world. If the propaganda is true then rocks wanted to take imus place in a sense. Roger may not know about imu though idk.

LMAO hahaa if someone tried to serve me up blackbeards crew instead of rocks, id be mad.

its definitely possible esp since didnt BB say koby helped him?

@@Parvision- he helped him by defeating the ruler of pirate island so he could take over

I think the marine’s portrayal of Rocks is a better approach imo

damn the vision manifested LOL i swear oda gonna troll us

when Kaido dealt with rocks or experienced rocks, it was when he was 15. most of the new world would have whooped 15 year old luffy with just haki. but what kaido says specifically is these 5 people are capable of fighting kaido. But behind that wording is alot of nuance. like Enel would say anyone with luffy's power would be amongst people capable of beating him after experiencing rubber. but i wonder if theres a power or ability that rocks could have had that would have made it really difficult for a 15 year old kaido to even fight him or win. Could it be similar to how Buggy is "nearly" impervious to the worlds strongest swordsman? I wonder if Mihawk would say theres only a few people that can fight him and include buggy because he cant cut buggy. i wouldnt be surprised if rocks had some annoying ass power that made him difficult to fight, especially against blunt force damage. a few come to mind. and i agree with you on the end part about the weirdness of garp being involved in the davy back fight, when i connected the pose, that was one of my concerns as well, but i dont want to dismiss the possible parallel available there. like if garp and koby are parallels, then is captain morgan arc a parallel here too. like how koby was working with luffy, but because of the recognized evil of the marines there, it was understood why koby was working with luffy and appreciated that morgans was taken down, and so thereafter koby's "crimes" of working with Luffy were covered up and ignored. but still davy back part is weird right? its almost like if aokiji interuppted the lrll davy back fight. maybe garp shows up after, i think at the minimum davy back fights are involved with rocks, but yeah to what extent.

🙏🏼❤👑🙌🏼 appreciate you!

gteenbulls silhouette did not look like spandem 🤣🤣🤣🤣 hahha I gotta double check now. but also yeah I've contemplated the red nose thing. would think it's weird if whitebeard didnt recognize it tho lol but also yeah 100% think buggy is special race. you shud check out that buggy special race video I mentioned at the end haha its thumbnail is buggy in gear 5 lolol

@Parvision I watched it already, I totally forget. You're probley the reason this is my head Canon lol

Only that, the fact that blackbeard is so closely connected to rocks and he has the D initial mean he was the real deal otherwise it makes it all pointless ifbhe was another buggy...and buggy is only funny because is a one off and sengoku made it clear himself fhat rocks was garp and rogers strongest opp garos isnt the type to take credit for something like that nir would the government try to cover it up when they could fluant it to make it themselves look stronger

1. he put him as one of the greatest pirates? oden was there, oden was more of a passenger tbf, but also thats not what he said at all. community put on implications like that and top 5 or strongest, etc. but it just says people who can fight/hurt kaido from his experience. 2/3. in the chapter it literally says, the NEWS reported the god valley incident which included the rocks pirates. im not saying that the news didnt scuff the details, on the contrary, im saying the news changed the information, and then sengoku regurgitating it changes the information even more. So whatever we are getting from sengoku is not even 2nd hand information, its like 3rd hand rumors that he is also redacting because he isnt just telling them everything im sure. he is just saying what fits the agenda that the rocks were bad. and to address the overall thing is yes, it was muted or redacted, but like sengoku said, rocks was KNOWN because of god valley primarily. and im addressing the part of the community that believes Rocks was ERASED (like the void century) like God valley was, but thats not what happened to either really. time was the factor in their erasure, unlike void century where we dont have records of it. and some people believed this implication and applied it to lulusia believeing that laser beam erased memories as well, when it doesnt make sense in either case. but also cycling that back and saying rocks and god valley were erased, but if rocks was defeated and they lulusia'd god valley, then they wouldnt have done it in front of all the spectators implying it was done after everyone left. UNLESS they used a different means, which is the implication i did apply though considering in the story its the only island eraser we know of canonically besides "ohara" and "knock up stream" and i added knock up stream cuz of the noland video i made, which sort of predicted a lulusia event, which is interesting cuz that would mean that there many ways to erase a place under the world governments umbrella. but yeah responded like this cuz i like the way you commented :)

I could definitely see that. i just wonder if theres a way for oda to have a fight that's unfair or twists the narrative. foxy fought luffy to a bloodied ending but we know foxy isnt strong like that. are there devil fruits that would make it difficult for a pre devil fruit kaido. are there ways to bluff haki? while its difficult to say I can think of one, that would explains rocks fully. i do know that buggy did overcome the worlds strongest swordsman. and to the world that would be announced as "worlds strongest swordsman cannot beat buggy." and I wouldnt put it past ods to double down on that

LMAOOO if you commented this in other places and i didnt respond mb, but the idea would be that if something could manifest a human, then its willpower was strong enought o make it human. When something is alive, it has lineage factor. from plants to dragons and everything in between has lineage factor. Inanimate objects can have a spirit in one piece, but for that object to truly be alive, it would probably have a soul, shadow, most importantly memories. and memories is what ties back to lineage factors. we see with jinbei seraphim, its lineage factor provides fighting memories. so basically the precipice of many of these concepts could come to fruition through swords as they are still garnered as one of the most important tools in one piece. and so a sword that becomes alive might yes have a lineage factor if it is sentient enough to be a person especially then.

Shanks is definitely a celestial dragon

I agree, your comment btw was my favorite worded version of this comment and all I gotta say is I got an amazing video to address that point I actually just laid down the foundation for it haha but hopefully more eyes get to this one before then