That sounds super interesting, where can we hear it? :)

@@HearBetweenTheLines A youtuber named Ghost Shark (formerly mannfish) had a video on it, but I don't know if he deleted it or if I'm not looking hard enough. He had it on his twitter account somewhere, I remember.

Isn’t the 6th root of 9/4 the same as the 3rd root of 3/2 (a fifth)? I remember Zhea Erose made a video about a scale using that interval, but repeating at the octave.

@@xenontesla122 Ooooh, link please? :)

@@HearBetweenTheLines kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q65jlMtz36q3oqc.html this is the zhea erose video, but the scale that op is talking about would be stacking 6\31 and skipping the octave instead of resetting at it

Nah, sleep is overrated... ;)

It isn't!

@@HearBetweenTheLines Hehe, yes

We always try to round off our theory-episodes with some Küchenphilosophie (that's a german word for ya :D ) Thanks for the lovely comment! Looking forward to the next masterclass!

Heyhey! As a half-Arab I asked myself the same thing! ;) I came to some conclusions that we've really only hinted at in the previous episode about the Blues. Here a glimpse into my thoughts: Basically, you could think about the first three notes of Bayati as the 10th, 11th and 12th overtone, so E F+ and G if your fundamental is C. That would mean that Bayati could be considered the third mode of the overtone scale? That also means you could harmonise it accordingly. This is not a traditional approach, so it will sound 'new' to both western and eastern ears, but I personally find this a very intruiging way of adding harmony to non western ... ehem... "scales" :)

@@HearBetweenTheLines Hey Rami, thank you for the response. What an interesting approach to Bayati. I've been experimenting with maqam Rast lately and I found that if you lower the Ed and Bd to Edb and Bdb, you can approximate the 29th partial and use it each as very bright m7(+30c), which makes for some really springy dom7 and emphatic m7 chords. Using these brighter m7 intervals, I can maintain the feel of Rast while also blending it well into western tertiary harmonies. I think this interval can be approximated also in 31-edo, AFAIK. Geile Videos Jungs. Ich freu' mich schon auf das Naechste :)

Glad to have you back, too ;)

You got 1/3 :D It was 2nd, 1st and then 2nd again, but the point is that they're really close to each other :)

Welcome!

Thanks, Amelia, we're also really digging your new series on 31!

Is that the notation system that Dolores Catherino uses? We haven't tried that yet, because our EDOs haven't been large enough to necessitate that, but we find it a great idea to use colours instead of ever more cryptic looking symbols! Have you used it before? :)

@@HearBetweenTheLines Ive never composed in a huge tuning like she has so Ive never had the need to use it but if/when I do I definitely would, I think its really smart

Bayati-Licc ftw! :D hahaha

It's a Lumatone :)

@@Thomas-yl8lb Okay thank you!

rabid rabbits rapidly rapping Their prefered language? Uhh... 'rabic!

Since it has so many possible configurations, too.

Get the Linnstrument instead

Ok, noted, we'll try to make it clearer next time!

Low drone actually helps staying focused on rote note while listening to scale.

damn right!

I have a multiscale acoustic and a regularly scaled electric guitar and they feel relatively similar in my fingers. I think if you can play barré chords and know some patterns on a 12-TET instrument, you can get a feel for this kind of instrument in a month or two, which I found astounding, to be honest, but muscle memory is really strong, it seems. You'll have to come up with different fingerings for some chords, though, if you want to include notes from higher up the overtone series, maybe we'll make a video about that at some point... Did that answer your question? :)

@@HearBetweenTheLines My questions have been well addressed. I am learning the 31-tet staff and looking for a reliable luthier to build me a neck. Looking forward to the release day of the recordings. Appreciated.

Nah, not yet, but we're working on an album at the moment and it has some sweet microtonal sounds! :)

sevish has some really good microtonal drum and bass type stuff

It is! :) Hopefully you'll have one, too, soon!

Yeah 53 definitely has greater accuracy, but I feel like 31 has more character :)

You can use TET (tone equal temperament) and EDO (equally divided octave) interchangeably for most cases. :)

Close enough haha

Totally, that can happen... It might be nice though! We did that a lot in our arrangement of Stevie Wonder's "Overjoyed"! But sure, it makes things more complex and if that's not what you're going for you can use other tunings :)

@@HearBetweenTheLines . . . which makes me think of 24-EDO(*), 50-EDO(**), and 72-EDO(***) since they are even-numbered. Not sure if having an even or odd number of micro-steps also has something to do with this not-always-wanted migration, but it also has the benefit of including a perfect (unjust intonation, square root of 2) half-octave (which gets quite a bit of use in jazz). (*)not as many intervals in tune as 31-EDO, but chains of thirds go to the next octave, and easier to work in ensembles with existing 12-EDO instruments. (**)almost 2/7-comma meantone, so pretty good set of intervals more in tune than 12-EDO. Sure is hard on fretted instruments, though. (***)you get to choose whether your chains of thirds go to the next octave -- it has both just and unjust thirds of both types, and even works in ensembles with existing 12-EDO instruments. Sure is REALLY hard on fretted instruments, though, and is too big for even a Lumatone (unless maybe you turn it sideways to sacrifice octave compass for full coverage of micro-steps?).

@@Lucius_Chiaraviglio I'm hoping LumaTone eventually makes a version that can accommodate 72 EDO in the way Dolores C's MicroZone can.

OK, now I got to the bit where you clarify that 6 whole tones no longer reach an octave, so 31 TET, which contradicts the cents size stated earlier. It's 38.710 cents.

Nah, it's slightly smaller, more like 38,7096... ct. :) So 31 notes until the octave repeats!

@@HearBetweenTheLines :) yes, I got the same. I rounded to 3 decimal places. Thnx for really inspiring videos. Really impressive, informative, and enjoyable.

Yeah, everybody's synesthesia is different, soorryyy ;)

Looks, like they're using Scriabins colors! It's a great standard: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavier_%C3%A0_lumi%C3%A8res

​@@HearBetweenTheLines nothing against the video or the editing, it's great!

​@@WhiteRussianDolls I dunno why but I think of it as a rainbow still but with C being cyan, E being yellow, and Ab being magenta

Loool!

Sí, ma solo un po :)

What part did you not understand? Would love to help :)