Conformity, as everyone "comments" in conformity.

Conformity is the antithesis of artistic expression--amen to that!

Off topic, but the words that they were singing, on top of it all…woah.

Now THAT was very well said, that last sentence specifically. Proper nuance IS musicality. Playing or singing notes as written on a page, mechanically, devoid of emotion, is junk, unless you are just starting out, then it is just what is, which is unfortunate for people that have to listen to it (spent pretty much all of the year or so I was 'learning' to play a couple of different instruments in that mode, at least my singing wasn't too painful). :-/ :-)

Fil is a f*****g genius. And a saint🤘

yes!!!

They had a big hit in '58 called Hey Schoolgirl(an obvious Everly Bros ripoff) as Tom and Jerry.The story I heard that around '65 when Sounds wasn't yet a hit Paul was living in a boarding house in England with other young artists like Sandy Denny and Al Stewart when he got word that Sounds had hit.

Like say, the Carpenters? :-) Her, voice, especially, was first class. Her story sucked, and it was largely the people 'handling her' that caused, or at least fanned the flames, and one world class slime ball that she married. A beautiful talent taken way too early. But, as the on the unaccompanied word 'together', in We've Only Just Begun, a truly beautiful blend.

Oh Karen's story was soo sad! But you are right @@MrJdsenior! Superb vocals. Another gifted vocalist who was a gifted lyricist like Paul was John Denver. These two guys were poets as well as musicians. Their messages were deep. Cherish John as well as Simon and Garfunkel. Barbra Streisand's vocals can't be topped either.

@@BarbaraPryor-Smith Yeah, people either seemed to love Denver's music or hate it, for the most part, in my experience. I suspect part of that was that many people do not like country music. For the most part, save a few songs and most anything by Home Free :-) I fit that category. However, I liked John's stuff, quite a bit of folk mixed in with the country, kind of crossover, IMO. My kids loved "Grandma's Feather Bed". John's output was just wholesome and innocent in nature, with some catchy tunes and lyrics, which was nice. As an aside, pretty far aside, the airplane that John died in was the same type aircraft as my father and I were building, sold about half done, and was completed by a friend and is still flying decades later, as far as I know. Stop here if you're not interested, because the rest is on this subject. I came back and put that in after I realized how long winded I had gotten. :-) The accident was really John's fault. The first thought was alcohol, but his blood alcohol was at, or near nil. The builder had done something different with the fuel shut off valve, moving it up and behind his shoulder, rather than the super accessible between the thighs position shown in the plans. John couldn't reach it properly, and he shouldn't have taken off, because he knew that, until he had had an aircraft mechanic relocate the valve to a position he could reach. Also it was highly recommended that you get some time and do a check ride with an experienced Long EZ pilot before setting off on your own (always done with commercially built planes), and IIRC he didn't do that either. I wish he had. I think I remember he had a mechanic clamp a vise grip on the handle so that he could reach it for his short initial hop...not a smart 'fix'. That is fairly typical of aircraft accidents, stacking the deck in terms of multiple problems causing an accident, quite often. The thing I remembered when I saw that incident was the designer, Burt Rutan, telling people in no uncertain terms that they shouldn't mess with any aspect of the fuel system. Modifications are often done by home builders, some nits, some extensive, but he said don't, not there...and someone did. The original owner put many many hours on the plane, and for him it was fine (he was tall), but not for John. That aircraft has a very good safety record overall, and I remember Burt also saying that if you were going to modify the aerodynamics or something that could impact safety to call it something other than a Long EZ, because he didn't want non plans built aircraft impinging the type, and I don't blame him. Well, that got off subject. Sorry. Cheers. Oh, and if you don't know of them, take a look at Home Free, they are some seriously talented guys, and do some fun music, as well. Their original, "Champagne Taste on a Beer Budget" is a hoot. They do some serious and quite beautiful stuff, too. You wanna talk about a blend? And you absolutely will not believe the bass. You need headphones, because a standard speaker system without a good sub will not remotely get to the bottom of his fry range, it is 0th or 1st octave, bottom of the piano stuff. You don't hear it, you feel it...not exaggerating. Here's a technique for those pitches with fry, growl, and sub harmonics. Geoff's group, Voiceplay is a lot of fun, too. Their "Grim Grinning Ghosts" is a fun place to start.

The 90s is a great music decade too! I swear! (Cher's Believe - the first hit to use auto-tune came out in 1998)

@@HawkOfGP There are a few songs from the 90's that are good.

I hate auto tune if I was a professional singer I would absolutely refuse to use it ever

@@HawkOfGP and I blame the popularity of that song using it leading to the death of modern music today

@@Dancestar1981 I think that just happened to be the moment the cat was out of the bag. If Believe hadn't done it, some other song would've done it soon enough. The way it's used all the time today really sucks, but I don't know if there's a way to make the public at large realize that. At least there are still less mainstream bands that don't follow these trends.

I love the way you put it--Art and Paul innately autotuned to each other. I loved this song because of how their vocals blended and how they sounded so convincing. I agree that hopefully they can put whatever differences they have aside--it's not healthy to live with rifts.

@@glamgal7106 aww thank you for sharing. 💜🌅

They are still alive ❤

Yes of course @@cathymoore8775, they are. 😌💜

Well said... ❤️

You remember wrong, then. The song flopped on its first release, and then producers added drums and guitar in overdubbing and released it again the next year. Proof that sometimes it takes a long time to make an instant classic.

The original version, on Wednesday Morning 3AM, with a single acoustic guitar is absolutely haunting.

@@telsonboy as is the single record that Paul did in England with only him singing the song and single guitar as well in 1965. this was during the period Art Garfunkel tried to go to university at Columbia University for Music major in Choir with a minor/supplementary in teaching but found it a waste of time the music and teaching for what he really wanted to be doing.

I was at Springsteen's first ever outdoor concert at Red Rocks. Got there early and sat 2nd row center. A beautiful girl was sitting next to me and Bruce came offstage, right in front of her and I believe (long time ago, no videos to juice the memory) sang a good part of Thunder Road. I was tripping, the moon was full over Denver, and that memory still gives me goosebumps retelling it.

@@Samasiam The people who have not been there for a concert don't understand why its such a special venue. If you sat up high you could watch the planes flying into Stapleton. It was kind of like watching space craft land on Mars . I Was there for The Dead, Kris and Rita, Linda, Jerry Jeff, The Commader... Was also at the Dylan Rolling Thuner hard rain concert. A great few years of my life... Got married in Central City in 77. Stephen Stills came into a little bar I was at in nederland and did a few accoustic songs, and I got shitfaced wth the girlfriend of the Dirt Bands drummer in a bar in vail. Was invited to a party with them but the alcohol and elevation did me in and I went out like a light and never made it to the party.

@W topper Great stories. My years in CO were an amazing experience. Not only was I living where I had dreamed of returning, after my first visit, but I also got to be a heavy equipment operator iin fantastic locales at times, thinking "They're paying me to do this!" I could go on but it would be forever. Springsteen's comment when they came on stage was, "Nice place you got here, a bunch of big rocks." He wasn't being derisive. He was kind of awed. Then, over three hours of pure energy ensued. He'd been somewhat dubious about doing that his first outdoor concert, but it obviously set him on a path.. I'd like to think the incredible atmosphere of Red Rocks and the reception he got that night made the reticence disappear.

Another great one like this is Mrs. Robinson and a really good one off the final studio album they did together, America.

Bridge Over Troubled Water is a great song. I think all their songs are great. Cheers!

I'd add that Simon's low, deceptively monotonic harmony and his own expressive inflections make the message even darker and more urgent.

@Peter B I agree -- that little break in Art's voice comes across as a kind of plea which enhances the song's meaning. Like Fil in this video, I certainly enjoy hearing these two singers' expert conveyance of emotion.

That's it, music is emotion expressed. Calling it 'imperfections' seems wrong to me. They are the (supreme) artists and their vocal brush strokes are intentional and rich sound textures. I've studied this song a LOT over the years. I have listened intently to both Art and Paul's parts

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he has at least twice

My high school choir teacher told us the same thing… sing “peas” instead of “peace”… But it wasn’t because of the microphones and PA system. I as because no matter how hard we might try, a choir of 70 or more students were not all going to “pea…….ce” at *exactly* the same moment, and so the sound would be muddled and messy. If, somehow, we could all “…ce” in perfect unison… it could come across as sharp and jarring. (Note, I’m not meaning “sharp” as “slightly above the note”, but more of a “knife-like” reference) When a student asked “how will the audience know we mean “peace” if we all sing “peas”… he told us that there is always one or two who forget, and somehow… that’s enough for the audience to hear “peace” instead of “pease”. While he didn’t specifically say so, I’m sure context cues from the preceding lyrics also help the audience to hear the “…ce” of “peace”

Todays producers seem to be looking not so much for people who can sing great…. But rather, OK singers who can *look* great while singing. Paul and Art sang beautifully together, but were not exactly fashion icons.

@DonnaLew52 - YES!

God isn't real, or interested in autotune.

@@morbidmanmusic Um, OK 🤔

Roy Orbison.

I know the original and I’m 42

I wrote a paper about the lyrics in high school….fun to have those old memories refreshed! Now , where are my keys?

@@lesliepotts5825 LOL

I didn’t know they fell out

So do I it’s the best version in my opinion

Loved all their music

@J. Kliban nice to see you here!

@@terischick9562--holy mackerel! We gotta stop meeting like this! 😂

@@j.kliban9156 😂😂

It’s made me more relaxed as a singer and so made me a better singer