Nope, cuz i dont got the game

How i can get this nose paint?

I would prefer this is just cooler but maybe also have the historically accurate version as well

I got the panther 2 and all the hidden German tanks Bc I’ve been playing since 2017, god help me

Definitely rather them add this one back, its super unfair that people who had it get to keep it when it's unavailable now

-be me -be a maus player -get constant up-tiers -have a 1945 tank facing 1970's MBTs for "historical reasons"

@@manaintolerantmage I know right 🙃🙃🙃

@@riccardomariani9648 it be like that sometimes

so you want king tigers and Maus’s to go against 75mm sherman?

@@riccardomariani9648 why do you think they removed the tank? Does really good in downtiers, does really bad in uptiers. You can’t really balance it very well

Ho Ri had less than the panther? Jesus why is it in the game then even Gaijin: Do not ask the snail

The issue with Panther II in the game is that's it's improbable, it would have to have different turret to properly fit long 88. Given that some drawings of modified schmalturm for 88 actually exist, they could've remodel the tank to be at least realistic (even though not historically accurate), but decided not to.

@@CRL_One The Ho-Ri is more than improbable, it never existed. They have the "prototype" and "production" version, despite nothing ever being made, with only at most, paper plans to mount a large cannon on a tank. It's as fake as most wargaming tanks are.

@@dutchvanderlinde778 It never existed, the wiki says a 1/5 scale mockup was made, but it never happened, at least during the war. The gun itself had plans to be adapted, and a test bed was made, but it was never adapted to land vehicle use.

@@volatile100 Bruh moment right there it's in the game but never really happened then right?

Ay ngl, ive play alot tank, but panther 2 is just lovely mbt ngl

Its like using ak47 u need to know how to use it 'properly'

Did Hispanos get nerfed? I mean they got a armor penetration buff, along with other calibers, but they seem spotty again, that is when facing aircrafts..

One of my best KDs is in this thing

This is the one single tank that I want because it would make 6.7 Germany much better

I'd still pick Tiger II H over 10,5cm.

The 16k repair cost for Maus doesn’t help either lmao

@@xxxhentaiqueenxxx9809 agreed. The Tiger 105 really is overkill for its rating. I'd rather have the 88mm with a faster reload. The coelian is the TRUE hidden gem of the removed ones. That is my main squeeze AA for it's BR. I take it over the kugel at higher tiers for actually killing planes.

@@xxxhentaiqueenxxx9809 the 105 is better because it actually pens the lower plate of the t29/34 and the 88 can sometimes not

and it sounds incredible

It was a problem before, where they modern post war tanks.

aka fun times, I got it around the time brit apds was added

Dead a$$ same

Back when the game was fun.

Same.

That sounds like early WoT lol

Yep, I played WT back then and got to the Tiger II (H) and Panther G but then I stopped because I was tired of the game, now I'm sad I missed out on the Panther II and Tiger II 10.5 :(

They most likely will never be coming back sadly, only the maus will be the yearly thingy you can get

yeah same story i have the maus from the re release and honestly i would pay money to gaijin for it if they re released it as a premium germany lacks premiums at 6.7 and while the tiger 105 seems fun the panther 2 is unique compared to its prdescessors and fills a tech tree black hole

The only tank I don't have for the former German Tech Tree is the Coelian :(

Agreed

@@Electro3Strike lol my man is here

@@Geniusinventor lol

I wish :( played air back then, came to ground far to late for the removed classics

instead of just the maus every year, rotate through the removed ones. give us the 105 tiger, panther 2, flak 341, etc

@@TheGrace020 same lol

Its br would need an increase if it was brought back in, it should not be 6.7. Should be 7.0 or 7.3 like the centurions are now.

@@cerdic6867 why lol

This is my exact scenario I’m stuck in I was only a couple thousand RP from finishing the tank below the panther 2 but I decided to get off and start the grind the next day but little did I know that very same day they REMOVED THE FUCKING TANK

@@justdarkness2590 this hurts. Like I’m in pain for you

@@justdarkness2590 literally same. I didn't even know they would remove it. A few weeks later I log back in and see the vehicles have disappeared.

It's fukin dawg that they didn't give a heads up warning or grace period for players to panic grind those last few couple of research points

Nice. When I saw they were removing the Panther II, I quit touching grass for a week just to rush getting atleast 1 RP in. I was really close and I knew I'd be mad at myself for not getting the best Panther in the game while I still could. Don't really care for the 105 KT but I really want the Coelian so I can complete my Panther collection.

Left last year, best thing I have done for mental health 😅 can only recommend it

@Lord Terra people wanted those German tanks removed yet they never complain about WW2 tanks going against post war tanks

@@CN7810-X One of the many issues with the game. I agree!

@@CN7810-X There is a name for these kind of peoples, they are hypocrites.

I feel you, many years ago I remember playing this game for fun, and not for grind. Now I really regret that...

@@bartek2431 same. So many missed vehicles as a console player….

same here. play since may 2014 and took a longer break from 2016 to 2019. never got there before it was removed and now im so angry at myself. together with the coelian and the 10.5 kingtiger this would be my dream lineup

Or the R2Y2's :D Atleast for the coelian (37mm) the gun and chassis existed and the turret was being worked on, and for the tiger 2 (105) both the tank and the gun existed (Krupp wanted to build it but it wasn't ordered, thats why it never got build/the gun never got integrated into the tiger 2). And the Maus was even build, goddamn. The only thing really fictional of the removed tanks is the this version of the panther 2 as it is an amalgation of several diffrent either build or proposed panther upgrades (but the turret is straight up wrong, the gun doesn't fit into the Schmalturm/s-turret).

@@rorymackinlay4077 This is a game and still one of its kind. A vehicle collector does not care about the performance of the vehicle. They just want to be able to own and use it.

@@rorymackinlay4077 indeed. In my opinion the Maus and others like the Panther II could just be premiums, no idea why Gaijin is so strongly against it.

The war was over and the plans for a Panther 2 were pulled back , sideskirts solved the problem with AT rifles and were much cheaper than a new tank . The Panther 2 should have the Schmalturm , wich was more narrow or slim at the front and was a smaller target . That's what " schmal" means and was easier to manufacture as the normal Panther turret . Still used the 75mm KwK 42 , no long 88 would fit in there . I heard of plans to shoot APDS as the Brits , this is maybe why the last models got no muzzle break . The Brits got problems with APDS and the muzzle break , as the sabot lefts the barrel . Not very accurate , later they build a new muzzle break for the 76mm . That's all I know . 😉

Part of the requirements for the schmalturm was to make it compatible with IR devises. It may not have happened, but it was planned. There were both drawings and a wooden mock up of a modified schmalturm with a 88mm kwk 43. The main issue is however that both were made after the cancelation of the Panther II in May 1943. Daimler-Benz made a wooden mock-up of a modified schmalturm mounting a 88mm, the biggest modification was a 100mm wider turret ring to a total of 1750mm. Krupp had made a sketch (Hln-130) of a modified schmalturm mounting a 88mm on October 18th in 1944. The trunnions on the 88mm were moved back 350mm, and the turret had a bulge on the front to accommodate the breach being moved. Effectively moving the gun forward, and creating more space in the back of the turret. The decision was made in February 1945 to combine the two and Daimler-Benz was to start production. But we all know how that went. But like you said, it would not have been mounted on the Panther II. Even then the turret doesn't have a bulge nor does it have a enlarged turret ring, making it entirely fictional. Just split the vehicle into two, a premium Panther II with a Ausf. G turret and make the now un-obtainable one a Panther mit 8,8cm Kw.K 43. A prototype with the wrong turret, but a real vehicle, and a paper/wooden mock-up tank. I know the community hates paper vehicles and prototypes, but it's better than pure fiction.

@@kael180 and ngl... my Panther II sometimes outpaces my Leopard 1, it also has better survivalability.

Maus was removed cuz "balance" The others were.removed cuz they kinda didn't exist

Maus was real.

And the me262 A2 Sturmvogel, also a gem.

@@Gameplaym0ments Just a shame what they've done to the repair costs.

@@GeneralArmchair Well for me it's not that bad, my Sl have stayed around 20 mil for a while now. But for people without premium it's prob pretty bad yes.

The war thunder 10th anniversary is coming this year, so why not bringing them back for that special date. i really hope they do !

@@aceofluftwaffe6444 I have heard a rumor they will being back the Panther 2, although I doubt it would come to be. Although if it did that would be nice

@@TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul Oh that's interesting... where have you heard that rumor may i ask ?

@@aceofluftwaffe6444 First I heard it from a reply. Then I heard/saw someone ask on a WT stream and it wasnt confirmed nor denied

@@TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul Ok thanks for the info

​@@rorymackinlay4077 the reason why i want the coelian to return is the armored turret, as now with that insane buff, even the kugelblitz turret is easily 50cal'ed from max range. Thus, over night, pretty much all axis AA became pointless. Also now, the entire german techtree to 7.0 can easily be 50.cal'ed excluding the Tiger 1 E and the Tiger 2's. And given how cheap fighters are, playing axis below 7.0 is now complete cancer. I mean, the .50cals and hispanos got such a massive penetration buff, that even the british and US wartime reports say it is bullshit. I mean fuck, even the Bf109 armored glass, specifically build to protect against .50cals you can now just shoot straight through. Personally, i just decided to stop grinding axis and just play US again and just be as annoying, cancerous and straight up toxic as possible. Maybe then, gajin realizes that they pulled their numbers out of their ass (i know that it is demarre, butt there is a reason why it is called an estimation). Don't get me wrong, spawncamping and killing the entire german team including all of those tiger 1H's with my P51 is fun, but i guarantee, those players didn't have any fun and ran straight to the forums.

the 341 is real, and more real than the Ostwind 2. Like literally the Ostwind 2 had 1 MENTION EVER and it was a "hey yea we thought bout this but didn't do it". Maybe just give it worse turret armor or shit

this isn't even a paper tank, it's completely fictional. that's why it won't return. the real 1943 Panther II proposal did not have the 88mm gun or the Schmalturm turret. it did have the modified armour thickness, a new engine, and components taken from the Tiger II, but it had a new turret with the same 75mm gun. a prototype hull was completed but not the turret. a different project in 1944 tried to fit an 88mm gun into a Schmalturm Panther I, but got no further than a wooden model. this amalgamation comes from a mistake made by a German historian decades ago. he misunderstood a sentence and confused the two separate modification attempts for a single project. the mistake was corrected back in the 90s, but it was too late to stop this mythical Panther II from spreading.

@@magnum6763 the 'Ostwind II' had an unconfirmed prototype, whereas the ''Coelian'' had a confirmed wooden model. they're both about as real as each other.

@@iMoD190 many vehicles in WT had a wooden model or no model. Take the R2Y2s with jets and the Ho-Ri. At this point paper vehicles are going to end up being added.

@@iMoD190 the Ostwind 2 is unknown. It could have been one of those bs lies the germans made up, but there is 0 documentation of the thing existing. The 341 at least had a real hull with a wooden turret

@kartoffel Salat How many battles have you had that are like the ones he does show? For me there are not many. That is the point. In almost every video he has at least one such match. He is that good. And lucky.

@@danielmostert993 His skill allows him to capitalize on situations that have potential like those he shows in the videos, and while I cannot rule out luck, the 2nd part of the equation can just as well be effort and time spent until you get into such a battle instead of luck.

@@meffspa1465 So your point is that you have none. I get it. You are bored and want to argue over something. Go do it with someone else. Why is there always some dude who cant just hit the dislike and move on.

what baffles me is the amount of down-tiers and/or just .5 uptiers...when i am playing any line ups i am getting a 80-90% full uptier (+1BR) ratio. It's not even subjective, I made a list of about 20 battles each for different lineups and ended up at the 80-90% ratio... How do you get downtiered?? xD

@@flanganke I used to get down tiers by running smaller line-ups but that hasn't worked for over a year now. I am beginning to believe that high crew skills affect the no. of uptiers you get. When playing a new tech tree with low crew skills the no of uptiers are relatively small but as your crew skill increases the uptiers also become more prevalent.

Hello

@@chris.76256 hi

Same for me, but i never done researching it, also same with Maus