You won't gain mmr if you farm like this

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BananaSlamJamma

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Жыл бұрын

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@seand5270
@seand5270 Жыл бұрын
4.2k mmr Offlane Player here, the auto-pilot concept hit me hard. Knowing and being aware when we enter this "mode" and how to critically think/adjust in game will definitely set you guys up for big margins of success. Great vid 👍
@emmalangel12
@emmalangel12 Жыл бұрын
Might not exactly be ur point but when i play Pos 3, my teammates, more often with party and somtimes solo , just pre assume im the tank and had to initiate fights and tank for them every fight !!! There are different pos 3 heroes which jst doesnt do dat right, its tilting, flamed me every time when im not in fights n they lost the fight , even when i was creating space and pushed out the lanes !!! Its brutal !!! Im always like " call me" or look what im doing and decide what u wanna do cos i might not be able to be there" ,ofc i never said it out on comms !!!
@bebekxettri9634
@bebekxettri9634 Жыл бұрын
@@emmalangel12 I KNOW THEY WANT ME IN A FIGHT AS POS 1 WHEN THERE ARE CREEP NEXT TO T2 AND THE FIGHT IS NOT HAPPENING ANY TIME SOON
@chayashida
@chayashida Жыл бұрын
I’m going to double my MMR, too. But in my case, it’ll only take two wins. 😁
@verigumetin4291
@verigumetin4291 Жыл бұрын
lol
@MsCatdograt
@MsCatdograt Жыл бұрын
Valve needs to pay this guy if they want to keep the game alive.
@BB8enjoyer
@BB8enjoyer Жыл бұрын
He's a caster. So already did
@Slaanash
@Slaanash Жыл бұрын
valve's allergic to paying people to work on dota
@MiguelVargas
@MiguelVargas Жыл бұрын
He used to be invited to every event, now they don't do it.
@Kujakuseki01
@Kujakuseki01 Жыл бұрын
The game is plenty alive.
@jknoclue607
@jknoclue607 Жыл бұрын
Lol dotas just chess to checkers both still going strong but everyone's good at checkes so more ppl play....chess tho....is Peruvians and Russians......all trying to end the game at 12min and playing support as hard carry....so chess is difficult and difficult makes ppl quit I mean no spine how can ya stand up I think I get it but chess has soooooooooo much more to offer
@wthMerhaba
@wthMerhaba Жыл бұрын
I'm around 4.7k as well. This was super helpful. Thank you!
@Roz9l
@Roz9l Жыл бұрын
Give yourself a minute to rest dude. Was literally dying out of breath after getting that food lol
@etofok
@etofok Жыл бұрын
the fittest dota 2 enjoyer
@haze6015
@haze6015 Жыл бұрын
bro doing PRs eating
@abbynguyen5923
@abbynguyen5923 Жыл бұрын
Bsj ran a sprint to eat
@DanKaschel
@DanKaschel Жыл бұрын
Great video as a follow up to your jug guide. Lots of great nuance.
@VormPCbinichnackt
@VormPCbinichnackt Жыл бұрын
This autopilot thing is so true and a big problem i have. Ill try to think more actively in the future.
@tekchamvikram3819
@tekchamvikram3819 Жыл бұрын
wow bsj is uploading in such a fast pace which is good
@chowderpot
@chowderpot Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping he slows down his uploads and starts planning arkosh scrims
@Randomtrash-_-
@Randomtrash-_- Жыл бұрын
wow so much content these past days, thank you so much BSJ! 😘
@ysaleem7820
@ysaleem7820 Жыл бұрын
95% of the time we only fight when we should be farming cos the team will flame and throw game. facts
@mohammadkhalil7188
@mohammadkhalil7188 Жыл бұрын
I am no coach but i am level 30 jugg same mmr as this guy, in my opinion the level 1 is the key, instead of being defensive and letting pheonix hit you with 4 fire spirits…. I would go hit him 2-3 times and directly spin on him and push him out of lane. In that 6-8 sec of fight his spirit would run out and he is now half hp with no spirits so you should farm actually offensively and whenever he try to talk up to cs hit him with 2 hits (since jugg have good animation). This way you would make him use all his resources level 1 and you are perfectly fine because you have healing ward and kotl mana at level 2 !! Just a suggestion hope it helps :)
@carlosribaltes6110
@carlosribaltes6110 Жыл бұрын
these videos are so insightful ! ty
@caster-
@caster- Жыл бұрын
These are so valuable, thanks a lot, bsj
@tonymontana9221
@tonymontana9221 Жыл бұрын
2:15 and I already feel the need to practice that in a game.
@geraldbriceno7425
@geraldbriceno7425 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for this!
@superyones23
@superyones23 Жыл бұрын
this is the most usefull video i've seen on youtube for me at leastt.. thanks!!
@swinnnk
@swinnnk Жыл бұрын
Could you make another video explaining the dead lane concept in the current year, and when and why it becomes the "dead lane". I this video, when he leaves bottom to farm radiant triangle, you ask why he left bottom. He has no vision on botlane but you want him to go there. I understand he sees pheonix and ember mid and the lane botlane is currently free. But when does that lane become truly "dead" and off limits?
@LuckyBamboo2
@LuckyBamboo2 Жыл бұрын
He can buy his own ward, and is safe with spin tp
@kneticnrg
@kneticnrg Жыл бұрын
In my experience your safelane is 90% of the time going to be the dead lane. There will be moments where it will be safe, if you see x heroes on the map, or in this example you’re a jugg with spin TP with 0 cancels. You can literally play this lane for free and tp at the first sign of trouble. Otherwise just assume its a dead lane until you see that they can’t physically be there for like say 1 minute, then for 1 minute its not a dead lane. Also if your team is there then it isn’t that scary but generally you’re not going to have your team there unless you’re playing for a triangle invasion.
@l33tlee
@l33tlee Жыл бұрын
Great Post, I thought the exact same. Its almost like he's watched bsjs videos and just gone top because bot is the deadlane and should be avoided
@ulykhbyekmaralbyek6981
@ulykhbyekmaralbyek6981 Жыл бұрын
Just watch some pro carry movements
@thegamingclassroom
@thegamingclassroom Жыл бұрын
4:50 - Yo BSJ, can you give an example video of what 'rhythm' looks like of the tower during last hit trainer? Just want to get your thoughts demonstrated and visualized on that
@rolftapao6977
@rolftapao6977 8 ай бұрын
your guide help me a lot thanks
@clarence112
@clarence112 Жыл бұрын
Out of breath BSJ is too funny
@NobleKenshin
@NobleKenshin Жыл бұрын
4-2-1 stats is an old Dota build that didn't come back til they let us level stats again. Kudos BSJ!
@Captain1nsaneo
@Captain1nsaneo Жыл бұрын
"4k players just repeat the same thing over and over again" Ouch. I felt that. I mean, I already knew that but yeah.
@pantsuslayer8631
@pantsuslayer8631 Жыл бұрын
I dont think like that in my games x'd but thanks for making me aware of it, now i'll think a little bit more
@boasfoasfasf8017
@boasfoasfasf8017 Жыл бұрын
I think he spined in laning phase to secure range creep
@mavor101
@mavor101 Жыл бұрын
BSJ you should do a highlights-only series of bringing a 2k/3k/etc.. guy up to immortal. Maybe 10 episodes or so, 30 minutes each, with only the highlights of the coaching/games that were played during the ramp up. Your editor probably wouldn't be happy, but it would be excellent content.
@petetong3166
@petetong3166 Жыл бұрын
Should do with 3-4 in case some don’t make it ahaha
@knkaitlog
@knkaitlog Жыл бұрын
that will take years probably 2-3 years if he plays 10 games a day lmao
@acejay1
@acejay1 Жыл бұрын
Is that the Eosin that often plays with purge in this game?
@SumSock41
@SumSock41 Жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing banana sama
@G4RR3TTJ
@G4RR3TTJ Жыл бұрын
SO MUCH knowledge
@kmastermaster
@kmastermaster Жыл бұрын
For the algorithms. A very nice content.
@samataldazharov9394
@samataldazharov9394 Жыл бұрын
I know BSJ is commenting on a fast forward, but maxing the ward instead of stats seems decent in this game, since literally all of the damage the opponent has is damage-over-time. If Jugg was not looking to fight, then stats would have definitely been better though.
@Youmu_Konpaku_
@Youmu_Konpaku_ Жыл бұрын
That and i don't really get why people skills stats If you think +40hp 1 attack speed 1dmg 12Mana are worth skill point which is 100 gold for 2 branches btw then dunno what you're thinking
@xignum
@xignum Жыл бұрын
@@Youmu_Konpaku_ I can see the argument for jugg since in that part of the game his damage is mostly from spin anyway so maxing the crits won't help that much compared to the survivability.
@DanKaschel
@DanKaschel Жыл бұрын
@@Youmu_Konpaku_ do you think 2 stat points give you 1 dmg and 1 attack speed? More to the point, going 421 gives you 10 all stats pretty early -- 200hp, 10dmg, 10as, 120 mana. The damage is probably a wash, so it's basically 200hp and 120mp in exchange for 2 points in healing ward which is an easy choice.
@SankakuSan1
@SankakuSan1 Жыл бұрын
banana slam JAM
@scottbeale1825
@scottbeale1825 Жыл бұрын
"I want you to understand WHY you are doing what you're doing" You are asking too much of me!
@jamiescott2126
@jamiescott2126 Жыл бұрын
bsj at double speed is intense
@julesvetter3326
@julesvetter3326 Жыл бұрын
More stuff like this. I'm at a similar skill block.
@ernestkevinerano1882
@ernestkevinerano1882 Жыл бұрын
bsj ur gasping for air towards the end. u ok?
@incoma6628
@incoma6628 Жыл бұрын
Watching this jug laining like this when having 4,7k littery tells me that PMS and not tilting is the most important thing in Dota to gain mmr
@LodusVXI
@LodusVXI Жыл бұрын
As a 4.9k player I can tell you this guy was not 4.7k, like they said he had some long time off, his laning was very poor, even for 5k standards. You're not wrong tho, PMA goes a long way
@incoma6628
@incoma6628 Жыл бұрын
@@LodusVXI yeap, when I am in a zone I am winning most of the games but if I am not I am going into some losing streak spiral, 300mmr in 2 days XD mainly thx to double down but still XD
@DanKaschel
@DanKaschel Жыл бұрын
@@LodusVXI as a 4.9k player I'd expect you to know that players at a given mmr do not have a uniform skill level in every area. Laning is clearly not how he progressed. It's silly to judge a person's mmr like that.
@DanKaschel
@DanKaschel Жыл бұрын
If that was true there would be no toxic pro players.
@incoma6628
@incoma6628 Жыл бұрын
@@DanKaschel some People are just good at something the others needs to work hard and still may never be at the same level. PMS in the 2nd case is even more important to Climb as high as possible. Thats my opinion. I know that if I am in the zone and I am focusing On my mistakes not the others the mmr is going up not down.
@user-uy3ff5jw2r
@user-uy3ff5jw2r Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@capiche7
@capiche7 Жыл бұрын
Feels like BSJ got some Netherlands "food" I think
@tmat7897
@tmat7897 Жыл бұрын
I hope dota becomes more popular in the states
@PandiTheBear
@PandiTheBear Жыл бұрын
That’s nothing. I’ve cut my MMR in HALF!! I was around 3000-3200. I’m currently around 1600. Edit: my last game was Marci PoS 3 and I went around 19-11, out safelane was dominated early and I had their PoS 1 viper (lol viper PoS 1) 0-5 before slark came bottom and I went top against veng 4 pitlord 3. Slark ended with the highest gpm/net worth, but he was screwed hard early.
@nikson12gg
@nikson12gg 4 ай бұрын
13:16 what is this neutral creep health bar? Never seen it before
@MelancholyCrypto
@MelancholyCrypto Жыл бұрын
Oh wait this pub looks like my pubs
@nicolassantacruz1453
@nicolassantacruz1453 Жыл бұрын
im a lol player but i find these videos weirdly entertaining
@elwynthr
@elwynthr Жыл бұрын
where is the video showing jugg 4-2-1 into stats?
@Unh34ler
@Unh34ler Жыл бұрын
No way that wasnt a snort , ugoodbro? Lmao
@anthonysmith3450
@anthonysmith3450 Жыл бұрын
At 7:35, you say that Jugg should have attacked the lane while Ogre is gone. But, the lane was going to push in Jugg's favor, bringing equilibrium closer to his tower. Why do we want to push in this case, instead of bringing it back to a safer position?
@philippearquie
@philippearquie Жыл бұрын
Pushing the lane is just more efficient than waiting for it to push in. Also, at 8 mins in, he won't be able to static the lane without taking massive harass. Best bet is to take whatever creeps are available when he can, otherwise gtfo until lane is back under his tower.
@anthonysmith3450
@anthonysmith3450 Жыл бұрын
@@philippearquie That makes sense. thanks for the explanation!
@markperalta4831
@markperalta4831 Жыл бұрын
Do you even sleep my guy
@novapreem6650
@novapreem6650 Жыл бұрын
I hope someone sends a video like this but focuses on support gameplay.
@daxlarsen2121
@daxlarsen2121 Жыл бұрын
"they know you're a useless piece of shit without spin" I love BSJ's commentary, so good.
@vincent78433
@vincent78433 Жыл бұрын
thinking while playing dota is soo damn hard
@bebekxettri9634
@bebekxettri9634 Жыл бұрын
I LIKE HOW JUG PLAYER SPIN EARLY SEEING A ENEMY CAUSING ME EZ TO KILL HIM
@shughes5920
@shughes5920 Жыл бұрын
Around 9:00 - this is so common lol
@IamYourFudder
@IamYourFudder Жыл бұрын
Previously you want carry to go top now carries shouldn't go farm top with the radiant triangle + dire camps + top waves?
@jasonrenata6279
@jasonrenata6279 Жыл бұрын
he literally told u to ask yourself why do you want to farm top half of the map while all the enemies are all there which makes bottom half of the map and mid are free real estates. and he also dont have omnislash in case the fight happens so its the time to afk farming on somewhere safe (which is bottom in this case)
@IamYourFudder
@IamYourFudder Жыл бұрын
@@jasonrenata6279 He literally told you this patch you should stay bottom
@jasonrenata6279
@jasonrenata6279 Жыл бұрын
@@IamYourFudder because there are no small camps in the triangle which means less farms? why is that so difficult to understand?
@IamYourFudder
@IamYourFudder Жыл бұрын
@@jasonrenata6279 That's why I was asking why can't you just drop the freaking explanation instead of having menstrual behaviors? xD
@jasonrenata6279
@jasonrenata6279 Жыл бұрын
@@IamYourFudder i am sorry, i set my expectation on u too high. I regretfully apologize for hurting your sensitive feelings.
@darthbinks5987
@darthbinks5987 Жыл бұрын
I think his mistakes come from not watching the map at all. It kinda obvious in a couple of moments that the guy completely ignores the map. As when he makes tp top just to farm when he should have seen it already pushed out by SF while bottom is empty and they loose towers to creeps. I believe that many people are just like him and they're not stupid at all and if you give them those parameters that they should have seen on their own they will even make a good decision. Main point: please just focus on collecting information on the map because you can't think of any good moves when you don't have the info to decide.
@yokisullivan8647
@yokisullivan8647 Жыл бұрын
this guy was 4k? I mean he did say he stopped playing for years, but damn
@jamiescott2126
@jamiescott2126 Жыл бұрын
BSJ at 0.25 x is for epic gamers
@DonkeyCub
@DonkeyCub Жыл бұрын
could someone tell me a channel that just talks about support heros and builds on not so support heros
@AbhishekBose27
@AbhishekBose27 Жыл бұрын
Zquixotix is my go to channel for dota support guides and tutorials. For a more high level low detail support content, also check out Gameleap and Gamerzclass. 🤘🏼
@haze6015
@haze6015 Жыл бұрын
22:40 why so agitated bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@DLais85
@DLais85 Жыл бұрын
You should really coach Grubby imo. That would be fun and interesting to watch.
@stanleyg.s1211
@stanleyg.s1211 Жыл бұрын
Grubby isn't ready, it wouldn't be productive
@DanKaschel
@DanKaschel Жыл бұрын
Why would a 4.7k player watch a 2k player to improve
@GamingDotaRagdoll
@GamingDotaRagdoll Жыл бұрын
How is that Jugg 4.7k?
@oldmanshinji9662
@oldmanshinji9662 Жыл бұрын
How much compendium lvls will hard carry tier give?
@AlexLong98
@AlexLong98 Жыл бұрын
turn the gain down on your mic and use a compressor for the love of god
@sanis85
@sanis85 Жыл бұрын
im totally confused...why should a jugg with ultimate farm away from his team? if team wants to do some random shit mid, at least he will be in the vicinity in case a team fight breaks out, and might choose to join, but can also choose to deal tower damage or farm dire neutral camps...should jugg not have ultimate isnt it still more effective to impose the tower damage threat top lane rather then just tping bot? ...i feel like tping is an instant tirgger point for the enemy to smoke into radiant as they clearly know jugg is not there..
@xMoomin
@xMoomin Жыл бұрын
u never want ur lanes pushed in, and there is a shit ton of farm waiting on a pushed up lane.. which is why, mid, and bot.. were key points there.. if enemy lanes are shoved, they will need a hero there, which creates 4v5 opportunities ... pushing lanes is dota's win condition.. the most basic thing
@shout7227
@shout7227 Жыл бұрын
Join a fight and potentially die prolonging his item timings all while he still can make a relevant play and split off to bot. He is either gonna Q tp out if ganked or push a tower and farm big time if the enemy chooses to defend the mid.
@KarmaGeeGee
@KarmaGeeGee Жыл бұрын
having ultimate is no reason to put yourself into disadvantageous situations just to be ready to fight. Up until minute 25-30 you want to farm a lot and take convenient fights.
@raux1257
@raux1257 Жыл бұрын
bsj should make a video dedicated on answering this
@zanido9073
@zanido9073 Жыл бұрын
15:20 what does 4-2-1 stats mean
@kuyababes1611
@kuyababes1611 Жыл бұрын
jug skill build. you can put skill points on stats now
@akashnair34
@akashnair34 Жыл бұрын
**breathe**
@julianl4430
@julianl4430 Жыл бұрын
Will they be replays of other roles? I just see carry,carry,carry
@Somesh_Dutta
@Somesh_Dutta Жыл бұрын
Because he is carry player
@AbhishekBose27
@AbhishekBose27 Жыл бұрын
If you want to see hyper detailed support vids/streams check out Zquixotix on KZfaq. He 7k ish I think and makes mostly support content for pos 4 and 5 heroes. 🤘🏼
@MRCHINO841
@MRCHINO841 Жыл бұрын
Wait you’re sponsored by Honda…
@jknoclue607
@jknoclue607 Жыл бұрын
I learned more from the def aggro can ya revisit how to lane like once a month 100% then NA gets S tier....frfr laning in low mmr is a joke it's a pit they pulls you in harder than discipline can help
@yellowscarlightningscream8347
@yellowscarlightningscream8347 Жыл бұрын
He won't be able to double his mmr because his teammates will not let that happen
@emmalangel12
@emmalangel12 Жыл бұрын
Super helpful to me as an Archon 3 , i need this !!! I reached Crusader without any signifanct knowledge of map presence, pressure , right time to fight ,farming patterns etc ,as a carry player !!! But the thing is i love pos 3 lol !!! I just cant trust my pos 1 in solo Q most of the time lol !!! Dont act like u never felt the same !!!
@Glitch9001
@Glitch9001 Жыл бұрын
cool
@lemzpotutan2839
@lemzpotutan2839 Жыл бұрын
its also the reason why as support, if u see empty lane like bot? dont leave it. ward then farm. just farm the area and make them think that ur always there. then tp when there is clash with bonus farm. if they say ur just farming as support, then they are trash carry who only wants to kill and kill without objectives and leave lanes open. going with them will result in catastrophic defeat in clash because as support u have no items. ward and wand aint items.
@BB8enjoyer
@BB8enjoyer Жыл бұрын
hilarious
@emmalangel12
@emmalangel12 Жыл бұрын
This must be an ignorant querie but i dont understand y so here it is, nothing to do with gameplay though. Why is it that these pre-recorded gameplay when analyzed or watched back, uses the new patch terrain in which the said game wasnt played in,and looked all weird.....How did a pre recorded game uses a new patch terrain?? U get the idea right? How is that ?? Not jst in this video, ive seen many other old gameplay replays in which they walked all over cliffs and trees cos the terrain is already changed from patch !!! Is it because most replays are taken from the game replay downloaded files ???
@xunjin8897
@xunjin8897 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, BSJ shows good examples and detailed explanations, keep doing these replay reviews. PS: I feel that BSJ enter in rage mode when he sees so much potential in the players, I'm nobody however I would avoid this behavior when coaching someone live, sometimes he enters in the micromanaging mode, and depending on the person, might be more harmful than helpful. I hope this comes as constructive feedback. Thank you for doing this for the community.
@DanKaschel
@DanKaschel Жыл бұрын
BSJ offers a certain thing, and it is really valuable. Not everybody needs/wants that thing and that is okay. BSJ doesn't need to be what everybody needs, he just needs to be his best self.
@ninjaaljun7674
@ninjaaljun7674 Жыл бұрын
Briannn
@briandsouza7854
@briandsouza7854 Жыл бұрын
Yes?
@kunind7638
@kunind7638 Жыл бұрын
pay 50$ to get roasted by this guy
@jacoh9591
@jacoh9591 Жыл бұрын
@11:53 he left bot because it's also very dark, no wards. Easy gank is just 2 tps away
@tsuol7296
@tsuol7296 Жыл бұрын
51 secs ago 😳😳
@boteugene1775
@boteugene1775 Жыл бұрын
How is this guy 4.7k? He literally never hit tier 2 tower... Plus, there's zero immunity piercing spells.
@ErteiAblaou
@ErteiAblaou Жыл бұрын
comment!!!!
@spooky2466
@spooky2466 Жыл бұрын
jugg so bad
@justintimbersaw3934
@justintimbersaw3934 9 ай бұрын
Is this guy really 4.7k? I saw 2k play better than that.
@padaththarayapissek7217
@padaththarayapissek7217 Жыл бұрын
how the fudge can he go bottom when there are other people in that lane!?? and you just say go bottom, there are 4 enemies in that lane... are you drunk?
@kuyababes1611
@kuyababes1611 Жыл бұрын
time stamp?
@AbhishekBose27
@AbhishekBose27 Жыл бұрын
Zzzzz you missed the whole point, re watch. At what point are there 4 enemies bot and BSJ says go bot ? It’s only when he had visible map info…
@conorryan7897
@conorryan7897 Жыл бұрын
why are you screaming this whole episode?
@michaeltang5759
@michaeltang5759 Жыл бұрын
his team support is horrible, the map is out of ward for like 100mins... typical noob legend game
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
4.7k mmr lol that’s so bad he should delete dota
@ninjaaljun7674
@ninjaaljun7674 Жыл бұрын
Where have you been these past few months, did your mom find you?
@BatkoBrat
@BatkoBrat Жыл бұрын
@@ninjaaljun7674 his mom was busy. Don't ask any questions
@kiploism
@kiploism Жыл бұрын
for a 4.7k mechancis, i think thats is normal, watching his gameplay
@KidTrigger
@KidTrigger Жыл бұрын
@@ninjaaljun7674 i diddnt see my parents in 4 years lol i live in my house house my praents bought me i dnt know what your talking about
@joketer34
@joketer34 Жыл бұрын
@@KidTrigger i love you bro
You are not using this item correctly.
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