Cut from the movie is his singing whilst playing a lute.

I suppose the best way to describe "Dune: part 2" is to say it was like watching "Rob Roy" on steriods and set in a fantasy or science fiction world, but still not as good a movie as the original, but only turn Luke Skywalker (Rob Roy) into Anakin Skywalker (the Mahdi of Islam). 156) Rob Roy (1995) 164) Dune: part 2 (2024) "Dune: part 2" is worth seeing. Denis Villeneuve stayed true to the book enough, in the sense characters can see it all happening as good or bad or good and bad and yet you as the viewer or reader can make up your own mind too. In other words, do you see this hero as worth it or not worth it. It's up to you. I was surprised Denis Villeneuve in "Dune: part 1" had the Fremen call Paul the Mahdi, as that was a dead give away that this whole thing is an Islamic end times vision. Frank Herbert did not come out and say it, but while I read "Dune" as a kid I knew the whole things smelled of T. E. Lawrence of Arabia joining the Muslims in World War One to be a leader figure of the desert only this was more Anti-Christ type vision of the future. I think in that sense it stays true to what Frank Herbert said, "I am showing you the superhero syndrome and your own participation in it." - Frank Herbert, speaking about "Dune." Now I see it from Zendaya's perspective; hence, I love the ending as completely open ended as to whether they achieve or don't achieve, but that many are for it as the dye is cast and some are disbelievers of it seeing the conflict is not over nor is any success guaranteed. In that sense it was brilliant, but it didn't crack my top 100 favorites movies list. "A Princess of Mars" by writer Edgar Rice Burroughs inspired many things along with the movie adaptation of the book called "John Carter" in 2012 by Disney, such as: Star Wars, Avatar, Indiana Jones, Superman, Dune, and writer Ray Douglas Bradbury with "The Martian Chronicles," which I read as a child. Here is where such things fall on my favorite movies list: 20) Star Wars: the Empire Strikes Back (1980) 21) Star Wars: a New Hope (1977) 41) Superman II (1980) 112) John Carter (2012) 121) Avatar (2009) 125) Man of Steel (2013) 148) Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (1983) 164) Dune: part 2 (2024) 270) Dune: part 1 (2021) The main reason for me to watch Dune 2 is to see whether Zendaya Coleman surpasses female actresses I loved in the past, which I don't believe she has yet. And to see if the vision of the Mahdi in his ascension can be depicted well. Denis Villeneuve delivered. I suppose movie three will be can Islam rule well? I doubt it in reality, or for depiction in the next movie, and I doubt the 3rd movie would surpass the 2nd. Zendaya is in my top 13 favorite actors based on the list below. She is certainly doing well for her career and I'm happy for her in that sense. 10) Spiderman: No Way Home (2021) 96) The Greatest Showman (2017) 164) Dune: part 2 (2024) 191) Spiderman: Far from Home (2019) 198) Spiderman: Homecoming (2017) 270) Dune: part 1 (2021) “I loved you, so I drew these tides of men into my hands And wrote my will across the Sky and stars To earn you freedom, the seven Pillared worthy house, That your eyes might be Shining for me When we came Death seemed my servant on the Road, 'til we were near And saw you waiting: When you smiled and in sorrowful Envy he outran me And took you apart: Into his quietness Love, the way-weary, groped to your body, Our brief wage Ours for the moment Before Earth's soft hand explored your shape And the blind Worms grew fat upon Your substance Men prayed me that I set our work, The inviolate house, As a memory of you But for fit monument I shattered it, Unfinished: and now The little things creep out to patch Themselves hovels In the marred shadow Of your gift.” ― T. E. Lawrence, "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom" Sting and the whole David Lynch "Dune" of the 80s was insane. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6t-i5SEy5nKl4U.html

@@o0pinkdino0o yes, I'm gonna be that guy who comes in and says actually it's called a baliset, not a lute. Sorry for the nitpick, but I'm sure some other nerd was gonna come along and do it soon anyway.

Battle Pug!!

@waterbeauty Same, man. Same.

Having read the series of books, I understand that there are things in the books which (at that time) would be extremely difficult to accurately portray. However, I love the cast, and all the "pomp" ... the costumes and sets. I enjoyed the 2000 Sci-Fi Channel adaptation of Dune. I felt that this mini-series followed more close to the books. However, I felt that the production fell flat, in that there wasn't that "pomp" and flashiness which the '84 film delivered. The cast seemed dull. I find this new adaptation of Dune (parts 1 and 2) very exciting. Great cast, and the visuals portrayed by the books.

@@Bryan_Master_Blaster Look, there will never be a perfect adaptation of this book. Too much of it is internalized. I honestly don't know why they keep trying to. There are so many other books they could make into movies that would work so much better.

Those shields they made fun of were hand-painted frame by frame by artists. There is a really cool video here of some current day special effects artists reacting to this film. He did some very innovative things.

@@Bryan_Master_BlasterI've seen the miniseries, but it does feel really cheap. Acting isn't great, and the production design falls somewhere between low budget and "What the actual fuck were they thinking" (specifically costuming). Really wanted to love it, but at the time always went back to the movie as a companion piece to the books, because, despite some of the weird things they did to the plot, the moment to moment at least felt like it was Dune.

Under appreciated? How come? It's being regarded one of the best sci-fi movies in the history of cinema.

I know right? People should consider the time period something was made in before judging it.

@@pvanukoff For the time they were still ass. Not the fault of those that painstakingly worked on it, the Director was Horrid to work under, the conditions of this Movies Production should have been illegal.

@@jaydenbell4975 *You can use periods (.)*

​@@jaydenbell4975haha piss off.

The effects were good for the time. You can't compare the effects with the modern day Star Wars. The movies effects have been redone a few times since the re-release in the 90's. If you want to see the original 1970's & 80's effects you have to have the old VHS or Beta Max versions.

infact it's not cgi is vfx

@@icoborg True

yeah, thats how rotoscoping works. This isn't special.

Star Wars is from 1977 😉

@@Honken55 ok, did they have shields?

I've still not managed to get through all of Eraserhead; It's truly and appropriately nightmarish!

Eraserhead should be required viewing

I have only watched Eraserhead once and still remember it clearly to this day!

Honestly Dune could be a full show by itself, with the Dune book itself lasting an entire season.

This is why I actually prefer the studio cut of this film. The director's cut is a bit longer and doesn't have any voiceover. They leave out the diary entries. I think the studio had the right idea for with this one ,for once. It helps to fill in the gaps in the time allowed. Otherwise it is a nearly impossible task. It is kind of cool (iirc), in the directo's cut to see the actors protray their internal monologues a bit,in silence. It's been a while. I just remember just seeing that there was more going on. It just wasn't enough. I want to investigate this again,because I can't quite remember. I hope the blu-ray has both. That would be awesome, for comparison's sake.

totally agree!

I've read that the original screenplay, which stuck to the book, would have been almost 6 hours long. Lynch compressed it to a bit over 4, but no studio would invest the money to make something as a two part movie. There is a director's cut that clocks in around three hours. And a super long version, but Lynch didn't like it and disassociated himself from that. A lot of stuff had to be cut, but they seemed to have kept the important parts.

The STYLE of the different cultures is drastically different and extremely good.

But ornithopters sucked, surelly could do better

@@galadballcrusher8182 Orinthopters are definitely the best part of the new version.

1973 me.

for the Time the Movie was better than No Movie ... but Denis Villeneuve´s Version at least for me really shows the Vision of Frank Herbert´s Universe

Especially if the well has been poisoned and mental seeds planted ahead to make you not interested to watch, but just mock & clown on is what's expected to fit in with your peers.

@maxducoudray That was very well summed up by you it is true how it is a unique experience but even when i first saw i felt it was pretty bizarre. it does carve out a certain spot in my childhood mind , and yes agreed Adults watching this will no doubt have this baffled look on their face 😳 CHEERS .

The pimple popper guy stuck with me 😂

The Sleeper has Awakened

Really good one liners ín this. Nothing ín the New one. Space must flow. Long live the fighters!

Played by Virginia Madsen

She really likes immortals.

Originally filmed all as one take, her dialogue was much longer, and when the decision was made to cut the prologue down , Instead of a choppy visual where cuts were made, they decided to fade out to space , where the chop in the audio was made, then fade back in with the visual with the audio in progress. Fine, whatever, but the fade-in where she says, "Oh. I forgot to tell you." is awkward bordering on the campy. Naah, it's campy AF. It kind of reminds me of the Flintstone episodes where the little green spaceman the Great Gazoo would fade in and out , sometimes wanting to turn in for the night, then Gazoo (Harvey Korman voiced) would fade back in, with some particular smartass remark, "Oh, what is it NOW?"

And she's also the girl that plays the piano on that one episode of Twin Peaks.

yup, like the petrodollar, and other intricate ruling elite symbiotic relationships.

The intro alone better Than anything Floo Poo van dish out

Laughs in Lord of the Rings. All three of them, lol.

For a 12 year old...

We’ve both seen Star Wars before special editions and Tron. The effects in those are head and shoulders better. The worms in this are pretty good. The shields are funny looking.

@@YouMeTheMovies Star Wars George Lucas had the benefit of developing his own specific Industrial Lights and Magic company specifically for effects.

@@KimEllis-kt8ei Yup. He also made Star Wars for 11 Million while Dune 84 had a 45 million budget. Some things didn't land, the shield and the blue eyes. There are films that came out earlier with better special effects made for cheaper. All three Star Wars, Tron, & Ghostbusters to name a few off the top of my head. We were impressed by the Eye effects in Salem's Lot which came out in 1979. They could have used a similar effect for that.

​@YouMeTheMovies you can't compare everything to star wars different studio for one different producer different effect artists also a big thing inflation

@@KimEllis-kt8ei True and I don't think he was loaning tech out to anyone but Steven Spielberg at the time. His company invented THX for Return of the Jedi (the movie Lynch turned down to do this one) so it would sound right.

There's the Alan Smithee version out there...all the cut footage is easy to find.

​​@@RYUQ2000 I've seen an extended version, so someone (I assumed Lynch) put it together. There's also a very long version that they tried to recreate a version of the original screenplay. But I know he didn't like that one.

@@RYUQ2000I own that on DVD. I grew up with the longer version.

and how are you going to do that? message in a bottle?

I lost it at that line🤣🤣🤣🤣

I'll be watching you

I guess I need to re-read the book, because I was always under the impression that the Spice is like earths Oil, in that it's the result of long dead worms, decaying, and converting to its pure form before erupting to the surface and drying into a powder. Since the worms are long living, and sentient beings, they remember their own ancestors, and see Spice harvesting as a major offense akin to desecrating the graves of their ancestors, which is why the worms of Arakis are so defensive of the spice fields... IDK, Like I said, I guess I'd have to re-read it again, I haven't read it since 1990.

@@SlytheyToveA Spice Blow scatters baby worms after they reach a certain growth stage. Spice is the residue left over.

@@klaptongroovemaster So then... why do the worms defend the spice fields so... aggressively? Is it possible that the young worms cannot be born in normal sand, and instead must be born within the sand left behind in the remnants of their ancestors? I mean I get it that the spice fields could also be the worms nurseries, but according to your explanation, the spice blow is only the aftermath of them being born, just like the placenta or discharge from a womans vagina when they give birth... and that's really just a bi-product of natures reproductive cycle, not something worth keeping around or defending to the death over. Just saying... I don't see any humans defending the hospital their kid was born in to the death, much less the first mess they made after being born. The worms must have a much deeper meaning behind why they don't want little annoying creatures like the Harkonnens' and Atreides' harvesting the spice. Especially considering that the worms are basically space gods and (Spoiler alert) Paul himself eventually becomes one. IDK... guess I gotta read the books again.

Finkle was also in another little known film, possibly appropriate to kids age 7+, BABY. It's about two archeologists who are on an expedition to Arfica to find evidence of a living dinosaur. Anyways, Finkle plays on of those scientists.

Precisely

I think her amusement at the shields was pretty uncalled for. How does SHE know what shields would look like?

@@mikelundquist4596 That's what I think too, we don't have shields and if they were created and looked that way I'd be happy to have them square or whatever shape. And I bet you start battling some laugher with no shields and laying the whoop on them, they'd quickly wish they had some of those square shields too.

@@KimEllis-kt8ei thank you!

@@mikelundquist4596 Ya, I love the look of the shields.

For the time they looked pretty cool IMO

Yeah, it's the best adaptation of the book by far. With a larger budget it would have been perfect, as proven by its sequel.

It did better with the story but with no budget lacked the grand feel of 84. The newest version is just trash lacking in following the book and cultures and the feel

The thing I didn't like was the teenage angst BS.

Some of the clothes are awful, and a couple of the actors are a bit stiff (Feyd, Ganima). Other than that, I have no complaints about the mini-series. I liked both Jessicas. I enjoyed Ian McNiece's Baron, especially ending his scenes with Shakespearean rhyming couplets. The music is great too.

Don't forget to watch children of dune 2003 adapts second novel Dune Messiah and third novel Children of Dune it's got young James McAvoy

Maybe she just in bad mood. Definitely it was hard to see this reaction.

To be fair to her, she seemed to get more into it later on.

Pauls SECOND Son...remember his firstborn Leto II was killed by Harkonnen raid in the first book.

She was also ín Blade runner

Personally, the cast from 84 was better than the new version. And they were more memorable.

The most rational comment about shields and their criticism I have seen.

You mean a TV series on the sci-fi channel?!

Miniseries on Syfy. ( I think it was still Sci-Fi at the time, though.)

@@TheSpanishInquisition87 they had 2 tv series continuing the story from the books!

As a matter of fact it was. There was also Children of Dune mii series years later.

This was 7 years after Star Wars...

@@YouMeTheMovies yes I know, but Lucas was only one man: industrial light and magic one company. My point is that Dune is much better in terms of special effects compared to what pre 1977 was like.

There are a lot of folks who think Episode 4-6 are the enhanced versions they see now and not the original ones we saw in theaters. 😂

I remember turning on the TV in the middle. Scene of characters riding the worms. Except the movements of the people didn't match the movement of the worm at all, so they floated around on its back, making the double exposure very obvious. I think it's clear that they didn't have the budget for doing what they wanted to do. I never felt like seeking it out so I could watch the whole thing after that.

yeah esp. the Dune remakes of 2021-2024. Ugh those remakes put me to sleep!!

@@SaRENRampaigereh, the atmosphere in general is pretty good in the new one....BUT the shield effects and the consistency in how they work are even worse than jason momoa's "acting" and the fight choreography is so much flashy nonsense that it really breaks any immersion

@@stefanforrer2573lets not forget eye gougingly photo negative Geidi Prime and Chani running away.

There's the Redux Spice Diver Fan Edit, which may be the one you are referring to.

@@KimEllis-kt8ei Love that fan edit. It really makes it a much better film than the theatrical version.

@@KimEllis-kt8ei Dune 1984 Alternative Edition Redux edited by Spicediver / Multiple Subs / 4K Upscaling by GW

Alia calls the Baron 'grandfather' in one of the versions

​@LordVolkov I think it was the miniseries on the sci-fi channel.

​@@LordVolkovThe 2000 Scifi Channel mini, which covered pretty much everything from the book

​@@playfulpanthress I think it was the sequel series, Children of Dune.

You mean Battlestar Galactica guy!

both@@YouMeTheMovies

:::points to the Steelbook he's had near 20 years now::::

I think he also is ticked because he didn't get final edit on the film, as well as originally thinking he had way more time to make it and would be allowed a much longer film. So if those things are true, then it's all the more reason to not blame him and for his disassociating himself from this work. I personally really like it, though I watch it as it's own thing, not how close does it match the book mindset. As well as having some imagination, I don't get thrown out by effects. It makes it easy to enjoy movies from 50 to 100 years ago, using any manner of props, stop motion and other methods to tell the story, without getting all focused on I can tell how they did that or that it's not real or comparing it to recent CGI or whatever. A lot of movies never would have even been made at all, if everything had to be perfect all the time.

Dang, wish I knew it was coming out.... would have gone to see it.

@@flashgordon6238Dragged a friend to see it for a showing in 2019. Saw it again in the theater the other week.

Have you seen this version? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nMd4hKSQlcqdfaM.html Dune 1984 Alternative Edition Redux edited by Spicediver / Subs: EN/ES/PTBR/RUS / 4K Upscaling by GW

@@simonfrederiksen104 No. Not yet but I defintely will. Just recently learned about it.

@@simonfrederiksen104 I saw it. The pacing is MUCH more consistent and it simply flows better.

Wouldn't be the first time we've referenced Forged in Fire.

Bile and poop. It used to gross me out. Then I found out some of the most expensive coffee in the world goes through the digestive tract of a jungle cat. We're just as gross as our descendants.