Your Apple TV is a Subnet Router for Tailscale now!

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5 ай бұрын

You asked, we delivered! Your Apple TV, now with 100% more Tailscale subnet routing.
* Subnet Routing - tailscale.com/kb/1019/subnets
* How Tailscale Assigns IP Address - tailscale.com/kb/1033/ip-and-...
* Tailscale Choose Your Own IP - tailscale.com/blog/choose-you...
* Tailscale ACLs - tailscale.com/kb/1018/acls
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@CatalystReactor 5 ай бұрын

Tailscale has been an absolute game changer for me. Thanks so much for all the work you continue to put into this product.

@MikelManitius 3 ай бұрын

The stuff you are doing with Tailscale is stuff I only dreamed of a long time ago. These features (AppleTV exit node + subnet router) are phenomenal. Thank you!

@dustinmorgan8624 5 ай бұрын

Tailscale has almost limitless possible applications. I'm loving it. I did encounter something while on vacation recently that I think would be a great feature. Currently there is an option to launch RDP to a tailnet device from within the Tailscale admin console which launches the RDP application on the computer you're using. I think it would be a great feature to have RDP capability from directly in the browser so that the desktop would appear in the browser on whatever device you're on. This would be beneficial to be able to RDP onto a computer in my tailnet from device that is not connected to tailscale or in my tailnet.

@MikeFaucher 4 ай бұрын

Outstanding!!! I have done several videos on Tailscale including subnet routers and I have been waiting for a feature like this. Nice job guys and I will test this right away.

@SurajZachariahManesh 4 ай бұрын

First of all, awesome work folks at Tailscale! It's one of the best networking tools I have used in a long while. My "feature request" is not for Apple TV but, it's for the pfsense tailscale package - please add functionality to route through a different exit node on the tailscale pfsense package (right now, the only option is for the pfsense box to act as an exit node, not the other way around)

@iPigee 4 ай бұрын

Y’all are amazing!! One of my best SaaS additions in the past few years for me!! Thank you.

@geriivagyok 4 ай бұрын

Man this is so great! I'm so happy! Finally I can use Tailscale to phone home and reach local devices. Thanks!

@flightmansam 4 ай бұрын

You guys are absolutely awesome. You have changed home servers. Im so proud of my little cloud in my living room. I would love to see clipboard sharing just like you have file sharing. Would be so flipping awesome!

@sylvainHZT 4 ай бұрын

Tailscale rocks ! I would not have imagine doing so much connectivity so easily ! Congrats team 💪

@internetztube 5 ай бұрын

Amazing News! And thanks for the networking refresher.

@Mario_Pintaric 3 ай бұрын

I've been able to get several critical scenarios working with Tailscale for my remote access needs. Fantastic product! I have been struggling with one particular setup that I haven't been able to make functional. I'd like my Apple TV in Europe to appear as though it is connected to my remote (Canadian) location. I've enabled subnet functionality which does give me loads of functionality that I needed. But I can't figure out how to make the Apple TV connection to work because I have to connect through a local WiFi (in Europe) which is also on the 198.168.0.x subnet. I presume that is why I can't get it to operate as though it's situated in Canada, since my local (Canadian) devices are also on the 198.168.0.x subnet. How do I resolve this problem?

@KS-wr8ub 24 күн бұрын

Thinking of buying a couple of extra ATVs to put at different locations for this. Do I understand it right that also the older Apple TV HD (non-4K) with that bad touchpad remote works with tvOS 17 and therefore works with Tailscale? That would be great as those are practically free on the used market. 👍

@sthardman 4 ай бұрын

Is there a way to disable automatic vpn reconnection? Sometimes I want to disable to vpn on the Apple TV from the control center on the top right of the tv but whenever I do that, it automatically tries to reconnect again. I’m forced to go to the actual Tailscale app in order to do it. Would be much more convenient if I could disable without having to exit the current app I’m on and go to the Tailscale app. Thank you

@tioal9419 5 ай бұрын

Can a Google or Android TV serve as a subnet router for Tailscale?

@jenesuispasbavard 4 ай бұрын

Fantastic! My Apple TV is on more often than my TrueNAS server, so this would be useful when I'm testing new drives and my server is offline.

@ruturaj118 2 ай бұрын

I’m using Tailscale to remotely manage a server running several VMs and it has been the best experience for me. I’m wondering if there’s a dedicated subnet router supporting tailscale.

@booyaadotorg 3 ай бұрын

Alex as always excellent explanation of complex networking. Really excited to use this feature on my AppleTV! To be honest you could've stopped at the exit node feature, but tailscale are constantly exceeding my expectations! 🎉

@casfren 5 ай бұрын

I would reeeeally appreciate one based on android TV please :)

@allandresner 4 ай бұрын

Can tailscale listen for specific UDP traffic and rebroadcast that across the tailscale network?

@rafraf23534 3 ай бұрын

Please do a video for ACLs!!!

@Solanum.95 4 ай бұрын

Would love to se a tutorial how you set up acls and limit access for some users, haven’t really understand how to set it up yet 🙃

@Tailscale 4 ай бұрын

Coming soon!

@robbinklg9 4 ай бұрын

You guys are awesome!!

@kpcenti 4 ай бұрын

Can you fix black screen / white screen problem on the Android TV app, then also bring this feature to Android TV?

@bobbydini5567 4 ай бұрын

Is it possible to have the Apple TV acting subnet router forward broadcast and multicast traffic from it's network to other devices on the tailnet? This would be like a pseudowire connection for tailnet devices to the network the subnet router is located on.

@kukister 4 ай бұрын

More custom dns's like adguard dns and controld...Implementation similar to Nextdns

@ballsdeep9648 3 ай бұрын

Would be nice to have a plugin for OPNsense.

@venjsystems 4 ай бұрын

getting better every day.

@thespencerowen 4 ай бұрын

I’d love to see tailscale support arm based NAS from Terramaster

@gbraadnl 4 ай бұрын

Finally, some actual use for the AppleTV I have ;-)

@marc2670 15 күн бұрын

How can I connect my printer, cameras and other devices to the Apple TV?

@victorarango6054 22 күн бұрын

Please think about WebOS Lg TV, it could be so useful...

@sparkeyluv 4 ай бұрын

How about just configuring ipv6? I think that would make things much easier.

@aritradattagupta9181 12 күн бұрын

What is the difference between subnet router and exit node? I am very new to networking and VPN.

@laurentscorrano2892 4 ай бұрын

Hi. Tank you for the video I have a question on another subject : I have 2 Synology NAS devices (one at home and the other in the countryside) that serve as DHCP and DNS servers. Each connects to an internet box, so they have different public IP addresses. In my homes, each device connects to its respective NAS to obtain its local IP address. I want to link the two NAS devices so that they are part of the same local network, allowing devices to access each other when needed, whether they are at home or in the countryside. Can I use Tailscale for this purpose? Can the NAS devices default to using the Tailscale VPN connection? I haven’t found a way to configure a Tailscale or Wireguard VPN network directly on my NAS devices. Is this possible? Do you have any ideas? Thank you

@vmat377 2 ай бұрын

This is great but I have another use-case. I think it's basically the reverse. I have an Oculus Quest 2 which cannot have tailscale installed on it. The pfsense router has tailscale. I'd like to access a Jellyfin docker remotely, which has tailscale installed on its VM host. Is it possible to use the Subnet Router to enable the Oculus Quest 2 to connect to the docker??? Basically a non-tailscale device connect to a tailscale node

@Daemos2106 Ай бұрын

when will tailscale be available on chromecast?

@DeanVRS20VT 5 ай бұрын

Using this for my Roon subscription. Far better than port forwarding ARC on my router!

@Tailscale 5 ай бұрын

Roon is a fabulous product!

@DeanVRS20VT 5 ай бұрын

@@Tailscale - Oh it is! **Feature Request** Would you guys ever implement IMGP for Multicast? Just researching, I see that Tailscale doesn't broadcast packets from the client application onto the VPN tunnel. I would like to access Roon on my home network while away on a desktop. But, with the way Roon have implemented their software, it doesn't work.

@thomasbroker69 4 ай бұрын

So can I use this instead of a pi-hole? I don’t understand what tailscale is for? Is this just for people to access home network when away?

@Tailscale 4 ай бұрын

Tailscale is the easiest way to connect your devices together no matter where they are. Yes that sounds like a marketing line but it's true. -Alex

@Weeem 28 күн бұрын

Please please please can you add Split Tunnelling so we can choose which applications goes through Tailscale and which stay on the default network (Private Internet Access does it and it's amazingly good)

@IvanITpro 4 ай бұрын

It would be nice if someone explained the use case for Tailscale. I can and have it installed on my iPhone, Synology NAS, windows PC and have yet to figure out what it’s for 😅. I work in IT and currently have site to site vpn setup on edge routers… how is Tailscale different here? Thx!

@carnold.knowledge 4 ай бұрын

I have a few scenarios I use Tailscale for. Let's say you have a phone and want to get access to your home security cameras while you are at Costco on 5G. But you don't want to poke holes in your firewall. Tailscale addresses that. Also, in my case my home internet is Starlink and T-Mobile 5G (I have dual internet providers because I'm rural). They use CGNAT, which basically means I don't really have access to the true WAN IP address in order to poke holes through my firewall, which is how I used to do it with my cable modem. Tailscale addresses that. Lastly, I have a couple of family members with Macs and Windows boxes that I need to Remote Desktop into. I have added them to my Tailnet, and in can talk to them seamlessly from any of my other devices (usually a Mac laptop). Hope that helps.

@yagoa 4 ай бұрын

I thought it was unclear how the CIDR range will be used and how to choose...

@donciak Ай бұрын

damn i remember when the service was young and it was already cool, now is colossal how easly you can do pretty complicated stuff.

@rainmagic1 4 ай бұрын

Just setup devices don’t see my iPhone 12 Pro Max could it be it uses a different email than my other devices

@davekorns 4 ай бұрын

Thank you, thank you, thank you !!

@jbk1496 4 ай бұрын

I am extremely excited about the Exit Node or the NEW Subnet Routing options, I have searched and searched for this capability BUT your videos are over my head. The KZfaq videos and documents on the Tailscale website are not written for individuals that have a 5 year old /child IT knowledge. I have a cabin with internet service, and I want to connect my Apple TV at the cabin to the one at my home using Tailscale. I'm not an IT person, so I need guidance on the Exit Node or the NEW Subnet Routing options on Tailscale to make it seem like my Apple TV at the cabin is actually at my house. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE provide a tutorial that is very easy to understand (Step by Step) for those with little to no IT knowledge. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND HELP .

@Tailscale 4 ай бұрын

JBK - enable exit node on the Apple TV at your house, then at your cabin select "use exit node (House)". Should do the trick!

@jbk1496 4 ай бұрын

@@Tailscale Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my message. I really appreciate it. Tailscale is an amazing software application. I watched your KZfaq video "Use Tailscale on your Apple TV!" a couple of times, and through trial and error, I believe I was able to make it work. I really enjoy your videos. I continue to test the system, but everything seems to work. Are there data bandwidth limitations when processing the Exit Node, and does the actual data travel from my Apple TV at my cabin to my Apple TV at my home and then out to the worldwide web and back? Could this cause bottlenecks and high bandwidth usage, ultimately leading to problems due to a lack of internet bandwidth? You mentioned you use the Exit Node from time to time, from the UK to the USA, do you expereince and bandwidth issues, picture freezing? I guess I really do not understand how the data actually travels between devices and locations, but I am wondering / concerned that there will be bandwidth issues.......like what happens when my teenages are at home using the Apple TV there and my wife and I our at the cabin using the AppleTV at the same time? THANK YOU FOR MAKING THESE VIDEOS!!! PLEASE remember that only some have the same level of IT knowledge as you do. Please consider making your videos simpler (like "Tailscale for Dummies") and providing more details in your instructions on your website. Once again, thank you for your direct message and for taking the time to make these videos!

@eliekfouri2043 2 ай бұрын

I would like a tutorial to set up my wifi router as sub-net , so any device in my home wifi is automatically using an exit node without installing Tailscale

@robby_barnes 4 ай бұрын

I would love a video going through ACLs. I also would love the ability to make all of the rules with UI instead of code. As in both ways

@Tailscale 4 ай бұрын

An ACL video is coming soon! 🔜

@ellieminette6463 4 ай бұрын

@@Tailscale Excellent. I am really looking forward to that!

@m23605 3 ай бұрын

I'd like to make a feature request: roadwarrior capability. Your docs have a site-to-site section but in a road warrior scenario, one of the "sites" is constantly moving about (connecting to random hotel or WiFi networks). So I need to be able to install tailscale on a pocket device (e.g. an Android phone that re-shares a WiFi network via a hotspot, or a Raspberry Pi/OpenWRT with an extra Ethernet and radio USB adapters) that will allow all connecting devices to use your home's exit-node (where you might have a pi hole, etc...). Also, in a road warrior setup, you need a kill-switch that prevents devices connected to your mobile router/AP to go out on the "local" WAN even if the tailscale tunnel goes down. This is important as you might get blocked on geofenced services if your seen to access them from outside your home country (think banking apps). Currently, Android devices don't route hotspot connected clients via tailscale. Even if they did, there's no kill-switch capability on Android that I'm aware of. Something like a Raspberry Pi running OpenWRT is probably the most practical solution as it is USB C powered and can be made mobile (via a UPS hat or a portable PD power bank).

@spanksen 4 ай бұрын

I have a Apple TV in Turkey running as exit node so I can watch Turkish Streaming Services from my Apple TV in Germany which is great. The only Problem is that even with my 200MB Internet Connection in Germany the loading times via Tailscale are really slow, I only get 8MB. Can I make the internet download Speed higher with the Subnet Router Function? Thank you

@Mario_Pintaric 3 ай бұрын

I'm trying to do something similar. How did you set this up?

@PizzaGoat323 5 ай бұрын

Looking forward to a magic dns video

@Tailscale 5 ай бұрын

Us too! What would you like to see?

@EdanSaltz 4 ай бұрын

I'm still confused. I set up my AppleTV to advertise the subnet. I then could not figure out how to ping or ssh a machine on the network. Could you do a walk-through? I'm a beginner when it comes to networking.

@ayoubthegreat 3 ай бұрын

Hello my friend. Did you get this working?

@EdanSaltz 3 ай бұрын

Not yet. @@ayoubthegreat

@EdanSaltz Ай бұрын

@@ayoubthegreat Never could figure it out.

@ayoubthegreat Ай бұрын

@@EdanSaltz I believe you set the appletv as an exit node. Then you use the exit node on the device you are using.

@EdanSaltz Ай бұрын

@@ayoubthegreat That doesn't sound right. I have to assume multiple Apple TVs can define subnets. The problem is, how can I ping a node on the subnet? How are collisions handled? Can I fix if DHCP assigns a machine the same IP address on two networks? I hope they can create a walkthrough that goes through these steps.

@mtnsolutions 4 ай бұрын

Can’t wait until Tailscale comes included on UniFi controllers. They include wireguard for VPN configurations…soon I hope

@camerontgore 4 ай бұрын

Second!

@magog6852 4 ай бұрын

lmao dont hold your breathe

@TheMattMustain 5 ай бұрын

Hopefully Android-based devices get this same love. Would like to see subnet routing available on Chromecast.

@Tailscale 4 ай бұрын

We hear the Android feedback loud and clear folks! Our engineering teams are hard at work on some improvements on that side of the fence, keep an eye on our changelogs for updates.

@vega109 29 күн бұрын

I hope that Google TV will have a Subnet Router in the future!!

@joeknowsavings 4 ай бұрын

Now if they could add Bonjour to Tailscale, that would be incredible!

@magog6852 4 ай бұрын

why?

@pcmnn1920 4 ай бұрын

cool btw, maybe make tailscale avaliable for Mikrotik Router that'l be cool

@dp70737 4 ай бұрын

I’m confused 😅… how does the printer/ ipmi connect to the Apple TV

@Okand2 4 ай бұрын

They don't connect to the Apple TV first themselves, but they will respond to packets first sent from the Apple TV. Which when this feature is enabled can originate from any other device you have connected to your Tailscale network. You have to know the IPs to the printer or ipmi interface and then try to access it on your own device first, this will then go across your tailnet to the Apple TV, which then routes from the tailnet subnet to the local subnet onwards to the printer or ipmi. Replies go back to the Apple TV which it then routes to your tailnet and back towards your device you're connecting from. Edit: if you have the access you could add your tailnet to the routing table in one of these devices or in the main router that normally handles the network, saying something like "the tailscale subnet exists behind this IP" and "this IP" then being the local IP of the Apple TV in this example. That way the printer or ipmi device could speak first and actually reach whatever is elsewhere in your tailscale network.

@AviDrissman 4 ай бұрын

I’m still pining for VNC in the browser, just like you have SSH in the browser; see your issue tracker #6102.

@bleem3k4 4 ай бұрын

Oh Alex, I nearly had to berate you for saying r-ow-ter, but I see you've relocated to the other side of t'pond! Cracking product, keep up the great work!

@Tailscale 4 ай бұрын

My brain is so confused at this point too

@camerontgore 4 ай бұрын

How would I get my remote Roku on a 192.168 address to talk to my local Jellyfin server at 10.0 ? My Jellyfin server has tailscale installed on it, but the Roku cannot. Can I set that node up as a subnet so that the 192.168 Roku can see the 10.0 Jellyfin?

@Tailscale 4 ай бұрын

We currently do not support Roku for a number of reasons. Some folks in the community have done some clever things with routing to make their Roku devices use Tailscale routes though, like this: www.mattknight.io/blog/routing-roku-tailscale-exit-node

@MartinPaoloni 4 ай бұрын

Oh, Alex from Tailscale. If only you had a podcast about self hosting 🙂

@Tailscale 4 ай бұрын

I’ll write that one down! Great idea 💡

@printingbuzz 5 ай бұрын

Great news, the Apple TV is now interesting. One drastic problem with Android is the Exit nodes need an urgent UI refresh when using Mullvad. It's impossible to find your own with all the VPN nodes in the same list on the Android app. Adding subfolders to organise exit nodes would be helpful as well as using it for regions with the VPN. 🎉📂

@azndibs 5 ай бұрын

Desperately need this UI refresh, not just for Android but for Windows as well! The current list layout is incredibly cumbersome

@HaiLsKuNkY 2 ай бұрын

wow very easy, my nephew is in thailand and im going to set this up for him instead of a vpn

@sipos0 4 ай бұрын

A Tailscale SD card providing this on a Raspberry Pi would be cool. They are cheap and low power, and lots of people have the laying around. Security updates to the OS on them can be automated too.

@gbraadnl 4 ай бұрын

I get your point... but they do not want to maintain both their own deliverable AND follow the Raspbian releases for CVE or other security reports. It would be more for an automated service that would take the image and install tailscale into it and create a new deliverable.

@sipos0 4 ай бұрын

@@gbraadnl Good point, maybe that is better.

@magog6852 4 ай бұрын

Rpi’s are cool, but the lack of availability is a thorn in the side of many and they just go to any other device

@sipos0 4 ай бұрын

@@magog6852 Availablity seems much better at the moment. I just bought one recently easily for example.

@user-kj4ci5te2h 5 ай бұрын

Can I use this on a Firestick?

@Tailscale 5 ай бұрын

We don't officially support Firesticks but some community members are doing cool things with them! www.mattknight.io/blog/routing-roku-tailscale-exit-node

@jacko101 5 ай бұрын

Tailscale on a Firestick would be cool!

@lueotw 5 ай бұрын

Just tried it and it works! However, ping is not working...

@Mario_Pintaric 3 ай бұрын

You might not have the requisite service that responds to ping requests. Windows, for example, requires a the installation of a service to respond to ping requests. Without it, you'll get no reply back.

@robertdaradics9998 4 ай бұрын

Hi! I am a complete novice in all this, and I would need some guidance! I set up on a small budget computer (intel amd64) fedora server 39, and successfully installed tailscale on it, advertising exit nodes, subnet router.., but! - No matter what I do I cannot access my fedora server dashboard from a different network through tailscale! :( please anyone could help me? me?

@unyy01 Ай бұрын

Brilliant 🎉

@nickstewart165 4 ай бұрын

Why not just use your router with ddns and open vpn?

@noinghenah2764 4 ай бұрын

i used apple tv as exit node and I can successfully establish direct connection to it but at 1 random point of the day, it lost connection even when the other devices and appletv is in local lan, the apple tv also cannot connect to the internet, it just restore if I turn off tailscale. About 5 minutes later, if I turn on tailscale, everything works fine. Dont know what is happening.

@JasonWho 3 ай бұрын

I’m finding that my Apple TV has to be fully on for the exit node feature to work. If my Apple TV goes into standby, every device trying to use it as an exit node can’t reach the internet at all 😢

@TheoneandonlyRAH 5 ай бұрын

Will this work on a pi4 being used as a pihole?

@rysterstech 5 ай бұрын

probably not without moving pihole to docker using a mac/ipvlan setup, otherwise ports conflict. You can use a subnet router to access the pihole

@Tailscale 5 ай бұрын

Should do!

@nixxblikka 4 ай бұрын

I tested Tailscale last week and the need to fumble around with subnet routing pushed me away, looks like I will fügive it another go😂 have a nice weekend

@SH4K4L 5 ай бұрын

i want to use this to get access to my Sonos System but, it doesn't work

@Tailscale 5 ай бұрын

That's likely due to multicast requirements on the Sonos side. We don't support multicast over Tailscale. There are more details in this reddit thread if you'd like to dive into the technicalities. old.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/t0emv0/the_definitive_sonos_vlan_segregation_post/

@Christos9 5 ай бұрын

Next video: Apple acquired and closed Tailscale :D

@rustyb78 4 ай бұрын

Roku please!

@NickBouwhuis 4 ай бұрын

This guy looks familiar. Are you the brother of the guy behind KTZ Systems? :D

@Tailscale 4 ай бұрын

IMPOSTER!

@noomondai 5 ай бұрын

Why do you take and apple TV with you on your travels? Surely you should leave it home to use as an exit node?

@malzbier1339 5 ай бұрын

😍😍😍

@johnwaldmann5222 4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately this video hinted at why you might use tailscale, but your discussion was almost entirely opaque. Your block diagram did not really explicate hardware/network structure. Please repeat with more detail, and clearer diagrams.

@pepeshopping 4 ай бұрын

NO! Keep it point to point (client-server) unless you want any/other network devices to use/abuse such connection! Then. Wake me up when Tailscale implements SSL/https!!!