Your Daily Equation #25: Noether's Amazing Theorem: Symmetry and Conservation

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Episode 25 #YourDailyEquation: In 1918, the phenomenal German mathematician Emmy Noether discovered a deep link between symmetries and conserved quantities, which has proven to be one of the most influential mathematical results in the development of physical laws. Join Brian Greene for an explanation of Noether's insight and the mathematical argument--in the simplest case--establishing that it is true.
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@phtinc1875
@phtinc1875 4 жыл бұрын
at 51yrs of age, I’ve long since forgotten what it’s like to be in a classroom but only wish I’d had teachers with 1/5th the talent you possess in articulating and conveying your thoughts and ideas. You are a true gem, Professor. We all benefit greatly from your knowledge and expertise. God bless. Stay safe 😷 and best wishes...
@CarlosMats
@CarlosMats 3 жыл бұрын
preach!
@voornaam3191
@voornaam3191 2 жыл бұрын
No! Do NOT preach! Make schools hire BETTER TEACHERS! For God's sake!
@yuma5297
@yuma5297 4 жыл бұрын
I must say that Brian‘s handwriting is frickin beautiful
@ricardodelzealandia6290
@ricardodelzealandia6290 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wish I could write M's as seriously as Brian.
@nibblrrr7124
@nibblrrr7124 4 жыл бұрын
@@ricardodelzealandia6290 MomentumtallicA 7:54
@BeckBeckGo
@BeckBeckGo 3 жыл бұрын
Heh I have the smallest handwriting on Earth and his just freaks me out.
@danielfelipe1606
@danielfelipe1606 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeckBeckGo I wish i had a small hand-writing. That way i'd not have to change my notebook every week.
@jeffk8019
@jeffk8019 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard about Noether's Theorem for years and knew it was about 'proving certain quantities are conserved as a consequence of specific symmetries', or whatever. Now I actually understand where this comes from. Eyes open! I've never seen how the math works out until now. Thank you Professor Greene.
@gerardopc1
@gerardopc1 7 ай бұрын
With regards to Noether's theorem (1915), if we want to be more specific and inclusive, Emmy Noether was not the first person to discover the fundamental link between symmetries and conserved currents (energy, momentum, angular momentum, etc.). Many people in the physics community ignore this fact, but the intimate connection between symmetries and conservation laws was first noticed in classical mechanics by Jacobi in 1842. In his paper, Jacobi showed that for systems describable by a classical Lagrangian, invariance of the Lagrangian under translations implies that linear momentum is conserved, and invariance under rotations implies that angular momentum is conserved. Still later, Ignaz Robert Schütz (1897) derived the principle of conservation of energy from the invariance of the Lagrangian under time translations. Gustav Herglotz (1911) was the first to give a complete discussion of the constants of motion assiciated with the invariance of the Lagrangian under the group of inhomogeneous Lorentz transformations. Herglotz also showed that the Lorentz transformations correspond to hyperbolic motions in R3. What Noether did, was to put every case into the generalized and firm framework of a mathematical theorem.
@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493
@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493 4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this One!
@niyantadeshpande5682
@niyantadeshpande5682 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Greene as always!! Your notoriety is well deserved. You’re a rock star!!!
@HighMojo
@HighMojo 7 ай бұрын
Notoriety is fame in the negative sense, perhaps his fame would be better described as renown which carries a more positive connotation. Unless you truly intend to mean that he has a bad reputation.
@laaradee
@laaradee 4 жыл бұрын
I quite addicted to watching these, it’s like learning German by listening to a newscast, with one better - the manipulation of symbols - so some visual input as well. I suppose I need to start at a beginning - whatever that means. The historical and sociological significances are so--??? Well for example,!today I tried to imagine what it would be like to be a female who liked mathematics in 1890’s, ....thanks for this!
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 4 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely astonishing how much innovation and science emerged from Germany from that golden period of less than a century. Noether is a prime another example of this creative thought.
@coldblaze100
@coldblaze100 4 жыл бұрын
The 20th century was totally Germany's golden period... 🙄😜
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 4 жыл бұрын
@@coldblaze100 Even the Nobel Prizes are awarded to individuals and the country itself. Although it's interesting to note that the USA has the most Nobel Prizes by any one individual nation, with over 350 medals. But 95% of US Nobel Prize winners have either been born outside the US or their parents migrated to the US. Essentially, the USA has been importing its intellectual class and its creative output, especially since the end of WW2. Even today, almost 50% of the PhD candidates at US Universities are overseas students. This post war trend has slowed down recently because regions such as Europe and countries like China, Japan and Russia have been active in holding on to their talented young scientists and creative thinkers.
@BeckBeckGo
@BeckBeckGo 3 жыл бұрын
@@PetraKann heh I think he was strictly referring to the unfortunate 40 ish years between like 1935 and 1988. My numbers may be way off. I tend to be suddenly not so good with numbers in the field of history for some reason.
@gedlangosz1127
@gedlangosz1127 4 жыл бұрын
I first came across Noether's theorem on a course I was doing about the Higgs Boson. Of course this famously breaks symmetry to achieve the required results!
@prisonss
@prisonss 4 жыл бұрын
Best educator on the web!
@hubertheiser
@hubertheiser 4 жыл бұрын
Again you made it look so easy. Thanks for another great explanation!
@arnavmishra2155
@arnavmishra2155 4 жыл бұрын
Sir please upload the DIRAC EQUATION too!🙏🏻
@samali786
@samali786 4 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Professor, you make things so easy to understand, that one starts loving physics. Thank you!!!
@kyleklassen3660
@kyleklassen3660 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Brian Greene, you explain it perfectly!
@ReidarWasenius
@ReidarWasenius 4 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Finland. THANKS for producing these videos!!
@simonmeier5222
@simonmeier5222 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this cool videos !!
@daydreamer05
@daydreamer05 2 жыл бұрын
Physicist on KZfaq with their knowledge is revolution in science.
@lukeenglish306
@lukeenglish306 2 жыл бұрын
This is incredible. Thank you for a wonderful lesson
@woody7652
@woody7652 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Brian!
@davidnxt
@davidnxt 4 жыл бұрын
Shoutout Mr. Edmons
@sudarshan750
@sudarshan750 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Explanation
@user-hs7qg5tt8t
@user-hs7qg5tt8t 3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much, thank you
@amritsharma5373
@amritsharma5373 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!!
@christophertamina8569
@christophertamina8569 3 жыл бұрын
I an so impressed by your ability to explain the Noether's Theorem in such simple terms. You are Brian green, so I am not surprised. 😘
@persianmeme3530
@persianmeme3530 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@zlaticakaluzna8617
@zlaticakaluzna8617 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, finally I got it :) THanks
@tomsmith4542
@tomsmith4542 4 жыл бұрын
nice vid professor !!
@ronaldjorgensen6839
@ronaldjorgensen6839 7 ай бұрын
thank YOU
@martintopinka8295
@martintopinka8295 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, professor Greene! Is there a link between this theorem and killing vectors? Or they independently say something similar? (Finally, I had a chance to watch the last q&a, wish your mom quick recovery!)
@aleksandrserebryanskiy7253
@aleksandrserebryanskiy7253 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Awesome.
@ansimran659
@ansimran659 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot !
@mehdibaghbadran3182
@mehdibaghbadran3182 3 жыл бұрын
each universes has huge turning around themeselves and at the same momentum stars and planet acting the same , and this live movment beautiful
@chritophergaafele8922
@chritophergaafele8922 4 жыл бұрын
Professor can you explain mach's principle and its application in general relativity
@tryphonsoleflorus8308
@tryphonsoleflorus8308 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much;great explanation for us amateur physicists not quite on the level of theoretical physics!
@schmetterling4477
@schmetterling4477 Жыл бұрын
What's an amateur physicist? Is that like an amateur concert pianist or an amateur NFL coach? ;-)
@paulg444
@paulg444 2 жыл бұрын
The guy is a treasure !
@chiranjibidhakal5191
@chiranjibidhakal5191 4 жыл бұрын
thankyou professor for beautiful videos..you are really amazing.😊😊
@padampathak256
@padampathak256 4 жыл бұрын
दाजु मनि छु है😁
@sjlegends
@sjlegends 4 жыл бұрын
Drinking tea leaves for science 😅🖖
@philochristos
@philochristos 4 жыл бұрын
I really wish I understood this. It sounds almost like symmetry and conservation are the same thing.
@abdelstar3999
@abdelstar3999 2 жыл бұрын
great professor
@elaghs1504
@elaghs1504 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks...
@iWrInstincts
@iWrInstincts 3 жыл бұрын
This is a clear proof that when people say “university professors cant teach because they’re mostly there to research” is false. He is a great researcher AND a great professor.
@amreshyadav2758
@amreshyadav2758 4 жыл бұрын
hello professor, you are treat to watch.
@havefun4493
@havefun4493 4 жыл бұрын
professor it's quite surprising that you have not done maxwell's equations and dirac equation yet...please do them
@simonapalosan3208
@simonapalosan3208 4 жыл бұрын
So when x > x+lambda (translation) I is the momentum; and when there is rotation ... should be angular momentum; what transformation gives I= E (total energy) = constant ... ? It is been a long time since I learned about this theorem, and it was not very clear for me back then :-), guess the stile of teaching was more rigid or my mind too easily distracted. Very clever your way of explaining. Thank you.
@auxbonnieux
@auxbonnieux 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you are well prof Greene
@jackrubin6303
@jackrubin6303 23 күн бұрын
Could you please explain how The Conservation of Energy law is violated over time using the concept of symmetry?
@mahadlodhi
@mahadlodhi 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, i bid you please commence your videos on GR by first throwing a separate video on minkowski's spacetime exploring how it's an Euclidean continuum. I was really caught in dismay that sir finished his initial videos in this series without doing minkowski's spacetime. And thank u very much for doing these
@nihlify
@nihlify 4 жыл бұрын
My brain can't handle your post both using an expressions like "Sir, I bid" and "caught in dismay" while also using "u" as you.
@water618
@water618 2 жыл бұрын
No the tea drinking was not gross Sir, it was majestic...Professor!
@dabrownone
@dabrownone 4 жыл бұрын
Can you describe how Noether's Theorem relates to gauge theory? I think it is important but don't understand how it works there
@rickysethi
@rickysethi 4 жыл бұрын
What software do you use to do these wonderful videos? Specifically, what do you use on you iPad and how do you split the screen in the video?
@peteAF
@peteAF 4 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering the same thing!!
@DJC53
@DJC53 4 жыл бұрын
i want to know this too. i like how it works and looks.
@wadeedden4552
@wadeedden4552 3 жыл бұрын
It is important to also mention the sexism of her era that prevented her from being as noted as she should have been. She also contributed to the studies of “rings” as well.
@paulc96
@paulc96 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Prof. Greene. I got to watch this on Tues morning, as I am in Wales, UK. Not that it makes any difference really. This episode is a bit too "Mathy" for me I'm afraid. I still enjoy watching though, as always. Thanks, Best Wishes & stay safe. Paul C.
@muhammadfarhanm.phil.schol4114
@muhammadfarhanm.phil.schol4114 3 жыл бұрын
Plz help me in finding the Noether symmetry equations for some particular spacetime
@winterrain870
@winterrain870 4 жыл бұрын
What happens when you take into considerations the second approximations?
@ankitdotasara2448
@ankitdotasara2448 3 жыл бұрын
I have learnt more here than my class .
@mohameda.444
@mohameda.444 4 жыл бұрын
You drank the junk of tea leaves leftover for science :) and here I give you the least we can, a subscription to your channel, a comment and a like on your video... Hope many can do... for science :)
@izikarasu5896
@izikarasu5896 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a crystal clear explanation. Is there a Quantum Mechanical version of this theorem as well?
@timetraveler1203
@timetraveler1203 3 жыл бұрын
Yes there is! Actually there is a beautiful link between classical dynamics and quantum mechanics. Search poisson bracket formalism classical dynamics.
@sagnikbhattacharjee3311
@sagnikbhattacharjee3311 3 жыл бұрын
Is it so that the Poisson Bracket in Louisville's theorem gets converted to Commutator in Heisenberg's equation of motion?
@user-qn5ti7ku3d
@user-qn5ti7ku3d Жыл бұрын
Thank you for nice lecture! Anyway, how about discrete symmetries? Can we say something similar to Noether's theorem about it?
@schmetterling4477
@schmetterling4477 Жыл бұрын
Discrete symmetries leave us with things like crystallographic point groups.
@gedlangosz1127
@gedlangosz1127 4 жыл бұрын
What happened to equation no 24??
@kyleklassen3660
@kyleklassen3660 3 жыл бұрын
"... that is a SERIOUS 'M' " rOFL
@davidseed2939
@davidseed2939 4 жыл бұрын
What is the conserved quantity fur entangled particles? In what situation/symmetry is entropy conserved?
@BeckBeckGo
@BeckBeckGo 3 жыл бұрын
This topic!
@jimtwisted1984
@jimtwisted1984 3 жыл бұрын
Are there any conserved quantities in the social or economic sphere?
@zakirreshi6737
@zakirreshi6737 4 жыл бұрын
1:29 subtitle no-there's theorem
@tripp8833
@tripp8833 4 жыл бұрын
Dirac equation!?!? Please?
@sjlegends
@sjlegends 4 жыл бұрын
So you have chosen death 😇
@atanunath
@atanunath 2 жыл бұрын
Can the differential equation be solved for any curve y = f(x)? That sliding path can be very complicated and the non-linear DE can become analytically unsolvable, no?
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a missing conservation law? Consider: Symmetry of position ⇔ Conservation of linear momentum Symmetry of orientation ⇔ Conservation of angular momentum Symmetry of time ⇔ Conservation of energy But there is one more: symmetry with respect to linear velocity, aka “inertial frames of reference”. What conservation law is the dual of this?
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 Жыл бұрын
constancy of the speed of light?
@hsingpeikao
@hsingpeikao 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding symmetry, does “look the same” implies “is the same” after certain operation?
@douglasstrother6584
@douglasstrother6584 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Consider an isosceles triangle cut out from a sheet of paper and label the vertices on one side 1-3 and 4-6 on the other. Pick one orientation at the starting position, and then rotate and flip the triangle so that it looks the same as the starting position. The labels allow you to see that one or more operations occurred, but the triangle is the same. Group Theory is the branch of mathematics which deals with symmetry; it's usually presented as a part of Abstract Algebra.
@hsingpeikao
@hsingpeikao 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas Strother Thank you. I need to learn more about symmetry and Group Theory.
@thesciencehinduby
@thesciencehinduby 3 жыл бұрын
What is time translation symmetry. How this symmetry in General relativity keeps the object attached to earth? When gravity is not a force
@albal465
@albal465 Жыл бұрын
Why did you choose I to be (dL/dxdot)(dx/dlambda)?
@davidlawson8103
@davidlawson8103 4 жыл бұрын
Recordar é viver!?!😀👍
@greggregory8311
@greggregory8311 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you,I too have trouble with pronouncing her name.may I make another suggestion,Leach lattice and the Monster/Moonshine.
@BeckBeckGo
@BeckBeckGo 3 жыл бұрын
I always assumed it was "Nayter" (more like "Neuayter" lol but for ease) Oe in German sounds a bit like A to English speakers. Like "Groening" mostly rhymes with complaining. Not quite but close enough.
@108boi
@108boi Жыл бұрын
your handwriting is so dang beautiful xD
@fortworthcpa9722
@fortworthcpa9722 4 жыл бұрын
Does the Big Bang at zero + time have continuous symmetry? Please remember I am a CPA , so this question may be absurd. Thanks
@philochristos
@philochristos 4 жыл бұрын
I was at a talk at UT Austin where this physicist said conversation of energy may not hold at the beginning of the universe because the symmetries that give us conservation of energy may not have held at the beginning of the universe. But she didn't explain what symmetries she was talking about.
@fortworthcpa9722
@fortworthcpa9722 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Harper thanks for your reply.
@chiralhome
@chiralhome 4 жыл бұрын
brian is badass for real rude
@vtrandal
@vtrandal 3 жыл бұрын
Emmy’s last name rhymes with Nurtah. (And the t is sounded as a t (not d). I wish I understood Noether’s Theorem as well as can I say her name.
@hyperduality2838
@hyperduality2838 4 жыл бұрын
Potential energy is dual to kinetic energy, energy is inherently immanently dual. Gravitation is equivalent or dual to acceleration -- Einstein's happiest thought. Duality (energy) is being conserved -- the 5th law of thermodynamics Waves are dual to particles -- Quantum duality (photons are pure energy).
@mehdibaghbadran3182
@mehdibaghbadran3182 3 жыл бұрын
if more explanation , needed perhaps , better results can be provided .
@zakirreshi6737
@zakirreshi6737 4 жыл бұрын
How is your mother now. Happy mother's Day 🎉🎉
@nishronw9549
@nishronw9549 4 жыл бұрын
prof greene, i am missing #24
@nishronw9549
@nishronw9549 4 жыл бұрын
@Bob Trenwith Yes that's true.
@zakirreshi6737
@zakirreshi6737 4 жыл бұрын
14:51 both were perfect examples but when we do it we will not find them
@ccarson
@ccarson 4 жыл бұрын
How about an hdmi connector. Rotate by anything other than multiples of 360 degrees then it won't look the same. Any connector that is 'keyed'.
@craigwall9536
@craigwall9536 3 жыл бұрын
Awk! For the sake of completeness you MIGHT have pointed out that all those high momentum chunks of exploding star had vectors that summed to zero BECAUSE THEY WERE SPHERICALLY SYMMETRICAL... (I think you meant to but just _forgot...)_
@007myzorro
@007myzorro 2 жыл бұрын
FORMIDABLE 👍👍👍👍
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 4 жыл бұрын
If angular momentum is conserved, how do cats spin around to land on all fours when they fall?
@benwincelberg9684
@benwincelberg9684 4 жыл бұрын
Lol by changing the moment of inertia
@adrianwright8685
@adrianwright8685 2 жыл бұрын
They rotate their bodies while maintaining zero angular momentum - sounds like a contradiction but it's not and is perfectly possible.
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 Жыл бұрын
they rotate their tail one way and the rest of them the other way
@amritanshusingh3671
@amritanshusingh3671 Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't this be equation #24?
@eag3503
@eag3503 4 жыл бұрын
you don't add milk to Earl Grey tea
@riyampatel8628
@riyampatel8628 3 жыл бұрын
But it will have angular momentum....! Am I right ?
@hyperduality2838
@hyperduality2838 4 жыл бұрын
Symmetry is dual to anti-symmetry. Symmetric wave functions (Bosons) are dual to anti-symmetric wave functions (Fermions). Bosons are dual to fermions! Thesis is dual to anti-thesis -- the time independent or generalized Hegelian dialectic. Action is dual to reaction -- Sir Isaac Newton Energy is dual to mass -- Einstein Space is dual to time -- Einstein Certainty is dual to uncertainty -- Heisenberg Noumenal is dual to phenomenal -- Immanuel Kant
@voornaam3191
@voornaam3191 2 жыл бұрын
In that rolling stone on a hill example, you used conservation of energy. Why don't you use the conservation of MOMENTUM on that same example? My common sense tells me: those can't possibly apply both. 1/2 mv2 is NOT mv ! Why don't I hear nobody stating that problem?!
@techdimensions2p336
@techdimensions2p336 4 жыл бұрын
I have to study this video I'm not understanding all this mathematical terms because I don't use it I can't tell if you're studying P or E or C p=e=c=conservation If It is life finding conservation the gool coping conservation is the perpes.
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 2 жыл бұрын
25:27 Not clear when you said d/dt of dx/dL was equal to d/dL of dx/dt. Would be true, if you treat x = x(L,t) where L = lambda & t are independent variables and d= partial derivative in both cases But you are using total derivative for t and a partial for Lambda. Yeah, I've seen physicists use this annoyingly unclear notation elsewhere, and as a mathematician it annoys me.
@NakedSageAstrology
@NakedSageAstrology 2 жыл бұрын
*Rorri Maesu says useaMirroR* Always pay Attention to comment 108 *BeCause*
@user-de5cl8vg8m
@user-de5cl8vg8m 4 жыл бұрын
As it is impossible for any “physical quantity” or system to not be subject to external influence; the principle of conservation can never apply to anything. Therefore this is one of several reasons why it is not a correct theory.
@joelcurtis562
@joelcurtis562 3 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous handwriting, then BAM - the ugliest zero you've ever seen.
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